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February 03, 2025, 09:21:46 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.
Actually it's at beginning of the new player that they play football with a passion, and I understand that football players has three stages.

•stage1  At start, they play football with passions
•stage2 They play football with pride and also to be influenced and being attractive to other clubs
•stage3 They play football with to make money...this stage3 they consider it as a final stage, and that makes them to be money conscious because they more funds to retire with.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.
I disagree with you...you can see that both involvement in football has drop reduced compared before, so after they retired other incoming players maybe better than them.

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February 03, 2025, 09:31:48 PM
 #102

Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


There is a generation that will come that would have only heard of Ronaldo and Messi from the stories we share. They will come at a time when these star guys have hung their boots. You know what happens at this time, their passion for football will still be the same or higher than the the passion we have now. Technology would make it even better. There will be newer and coaching styles.

Football will even become more profitable at that time. We think our eras is the best but there is nothing special about it just like we the way we think about the past eras.

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February 04, 2025, 08:51:33 AM
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This is not only happening in football, MMA and boxing stars are in exactly the same situation. Bloggers who think they are professional athletes challenge old school athletes and only for the sake of a show of fame and money. It looks ridiculous, just like wrestling, I am not a fan of it. The spirit of competition is disappearing now, it seems like the new trend is a show without results.
Performances without results, is that really the goal, because the matches that are carried out are of course for a content and make money from it.
Not without results, but it may not be official in a serious match.

Now completely entering a different era, betting on gambling is also becoming more and more widespread in all kinds of games.

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February 07, 2025, 09:04:45 PM
 #104

Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.
Actually it's at beginning of the new player that they play football with a passion, and I understand that football players has three stages.

•stage1  At start, they play football with passions
•stage2 They play football with pride and also to be influenced and being attractive to other clubs
•stage3 They play football with to make money...this stage3 they consider it as a final stage, and that makes them to be money conscious because they more funds to retire with.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.
I disagree with you...you can see that both involvement in football has drop reduced compared before, so after they retired other incoming players maybe better than them.
Yes you can say both Ronaldo and Messi involvement in football had dropped compare to before. But you can also agree with me that thief both has created legacy in the world of football and they’re benefiting from it as a result of the hard work they put in place from the very beginning
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February 09, 2025, 10:40:56 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


The era is considered like a money-making machine. So there is nothing wrong with the players as almost all the people are going behind the money. As human beings players are not out of that. Only a few people would make bets when the game was in pleasure by people as time it became common to people and in the same way, players are working as money-making machines.

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February 09, 2025, 10:45:26 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2025, 06:11:25 PM by AmoreJaz
 #106

This is not only happening in football, MMA and boxing stars are in exactly the same situation. Bloggers who think they are professional athletes challenge old school athletes and only for the sake of a show of fame and money. It looks ridiculous, just like wrestling, I am not a fan of it. The spirit of competition is disappearing now, it seems like the new trend is a show without results.
Performances without results, is that really the goal, because the matches that are carried out are of course for a content and make money from it.
Not without results, but it may not be official in a serious match.

Now completely entering a different era, betting on gambling is also becoming more and more widespread in all kinds of games.

With the generation today, the more popular you are in social media, the better chance for you to earn good money. When pandemic happened, the popularity of exhibition fights really did cater to the public who were deprive of the regular games. And these people who got involved into this kind of fight, came to know that they can really earn good money out of it. And look up until now, they are still trying to milk this kind of fight. Because people are still buying this type of event.

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February 13, 2025, 09:04:38 PM
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This is not only happening in football, MMA and boxing stars are in exactly the same situation. Bloggers who think they are professional athletes challenge old school athletes and only for the sake of a show of fame and money. It looks ridiculous, just like wrestling, I am not a fan of it. The spirit of competition is disappearing now, it seems like the new trend is a show without results.
Performances without results, is that really the goal, because the matches that are carried out are of course for a content and make money from it.
Not without results, but it may not be official in a serious match.

Now completely entering a different era, betting on gambling is also becoming more and more widespread in all kinds of games.

With the generation today, the more popular you are in social media, the better chance for you to earn good money. When pandemic happened, the popularity of exhibition fights really did cater to the public who were deprive of the regular games. And these people who got involved into this kind of fight, came to know that they can really earn good money out of it. And look up until now, they are still trying to milk this kind of fight. Because people are still buying this type of event.

Yes popularity makes of value increase and there’s not doubt about that. But then some are tend to focus more on what the popularity brings to them rather than what has made them more popular and maintaining that momentum. That’s how I see it
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February 14, 2025, 04:00:01 PM
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You can't reach the conclusion that all players play and move from one club to another only for money. First of all, these players are chosen only if they have the passion and skills because reaching these clubs is not an easy thing. There are millions of footballers in the world, but only some players make it to that level, why so? It's because they have worked hard for it, and you only work hard on something if you have a passion for it, and even if you try to earn more money after you reach that point, there is nothing wrong with that.

In my opinion, these players change clubs mostly because they see better opportunities on the other side, most of them are rich enough that they don't need to do these things only for money. However, even if some of them do it, we can't make that an opinion for everyone. It's all about opportunities and better futures for these players and their managers usually manage these transfers and everything.
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February 14, 2025, 04:17:04 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful

People often project based on their own aging and fail to realize the current trends which have displaced those which existed when they were growing up. I think there are plenty of players out there who kids want to copy these days, take Erling Haaland for example. He has a very high level of skill and has broken a few records over the years. Saudi level money never existed a decade ago and may not exist in a decade to come, so we shouldn't blame players for taking up the opportunity to earn double or triple the mega salary they might have gotten for staying in European leagues. Who knows, maybe the American MLS might continue growing organically (instead of forced) and eventually displace European wages.

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February 14, 2025, 04:41:17 PM
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Well, not every player. Some players are still driven by passion and dedication for the love they have for sports. Although there's an atom of truth in this, many players are just out to get money and you can't really blame them because we live in a competitive generation, everyone's trying to outdo each other financially, The society has made money a priority, people no longer chase passion if it's not profitable. So that fact is true, era's come to an end. This era is all about money, only few people care about passion. But i think players should go back to having the mindset of being passionate about the game.


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February 14, 2025, 06:08:04 PM
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Those legendary players are at the end of their careers so they want to bag as much as possible when they can because we have lot of failed superstars in every field too so they don't want to be one of them...

Loyalty end at some point, even the fans lose interest over players after certain time period with very few exceptions then how can we expect everyone to be those few?

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With the generation today, the more popular you are in social media, the better chance for you to earn good money. When pandemic happened, the popularity of exhibition fights really did cater to the public who were deprive of the regular games. And these people who got involved into this kind of fight, came to know that they can really earn good money out of it. And look up until now, they are still trying to milk this kind of fight. Because people are still buying this type of event.
One social media optimization that only a few got to use early enough which has now been of so much benefit to them now that the endless benefit is one which we cannot overly emphasise but we don't hope to have more pandemic but so far it's clear that away from the pandemic,  the convenience that comes with it is an advantage that can be explored without necessarily having a situation of a pandemic.
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With the generation today, the more popular you are in social media, the better chance for you to earn good money. When pandemic happened, the popularity of exhibition fights really did cater to the public who were deprive of the regular games. And these people who got involved into this kind of fight, came to know that they can really earn good money out of it. And look up until now, they are still trying to milk this kind of fight. Because people are still buying this type of event.
One social media optimization that only a few got to use early enough which has now been of so much benefit to them now that the endless benefit is one which we cannot overly emphasise but we don't hope to have more pandemic but so far it's clear that away from the pandemic,  the convenience that comes with it is an advantage that can be explored without necessarily having a situation of a pandemic.
So let’s say, passion and hard work contributed to Ronaldo and Messi achievements in football and that has made them famous, because even in the early days of their career social media wasn’t there and yet they’re able to dominate social media even now due to their influence and what they’ve done. Making them the most followed athlete in social media.
Now I get your point, most of the footballer this days is you do your finding playing football wasn’t really what they wanted to do in life. Meaning they had other career paths but then the opportunity of playing football came which also serves as a route to get rich, whether the passion is there or not.
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

Football has turned into a business. What else did you expect? The football players are professionals. They know that their performance determines their salary and bonuses. There's nothing wrong with that. What do you mean by "playing for passion"? Do you really think that most players aren't passionate enough? I think that a football player, who ends his career at the age of 35 must think about his financial future and save enough money to afford a decent lifestyle, after he retires from football.
Anyway, this topic has nothing to do with sports betting. Maybe you should move it to another forum.

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They still can be very passionate to the sport but not to every club they join. But still people are now more materialistic and want to feel secure in the future. Anyone with good career today may not be in good shape in the next 5-10 years which by the time a sportman's career is over, they don't wanna end up looking for a job.

Having a good retirement bag would be a good plan. And maybe Saudis are offering it like how they do it in boxing sports these days.

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They still can be very passionate to the sport but not to every club they join. But still people are now more materialistic and want to feel secure in the future. Anyone with good career today may not be in good shape in the next 5-10 years which by the time a sportman's career is over, they don't wanna end up looking for a job.

Having a good retirement bag would be a good plan. And maybe Saudis are offering it like how they do it in boxing sports these days.

Yes, it's good to have that kind of mindset if you are a sports athlete, of course in the beginning it was all fun to you as you are playing and then enjoying good pay as well. But you will also have to think about the future and about your paycheck as you can't play forever. There are things that might cut you career like injuries, so you better save for the rainy days.

And if you stay that long, then sooner or later you will have to retire and you really do need to look for that one last career paycheck that you settle you for the rest of your life after father time catches up with you.

 
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They still can be very passionate to the sport but not to every club they join. But still people are now more materialistic and want to feel secure in the future. Anyone with good career today may not be in good shape in the next 5-10 years which by the time a sportman's career is over, they don't wanna end up looking for a job.

Having a good retirement bag would be a good plan. And maybe Saudis are offering it like how they do it in boxing sports these days.
Nothing last forever not even our life, at every moment enjoy yourself with a good plan incase you live long. In sport there is a age limit, once you are in your 30years, your time is off, your offer and value will drastically reduce. For your honor is better you live the state when you still have the honor, just the way Toni kloss resigned. once you over stayed on the stage without performance you might lose your respect and honor.

As a sportsman, your retirement plan should is necessary so you don't have to beg your former team mate for aids after poor retirement plan. one thing that destroy sportsman after retirement is their partners, most of our sportsmen with good retirement plans are broke because of the wife they got married to. If you observe well some of our sportsmen are into content creations which is nice to keep them going, even C Ronado has a podcast studio, which is giving him huge money. He has already planed his retirement. knowing that he wont play forever in the next 2 years he will retire from football.

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February 20, 2025, 01:40:30 PM
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Football has long been a game played by amateurs, fans of this sport. But now football is a sport where every football player dreams of earning good money first. I would compare it to military service, where every soldier dreams of becoming a general. But what's wrong with that? Talented football players, those who sign expensive contracts, are obliged to show all their skills. If there are none, then there will be no millions for which countries buy them. And anyone who starts playing football, starting from a child, always carries the idea of ​​leadership. I would say that this quality should be present in any athlete. If there is no talent, then they will always sit on the reserve bench.

You right but I still believes that there're players with active passion,so many players are still driven by passion for football.Theres a strong driving force for passion than the need for financial gain.
Passion and Money stands as a vital components of football but nowadays,and for some reasons best known to football fans whom have laid in complains,they believe that players are more focused on money than loyalty to their clubs and the sports entirely.

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Football has long been a game played by amateurs, fans of this sport. But now football is a sport where every football player dreams of earning good money first. I would compare it to military service, where every soldier dreams of becoming a general. But what's wrong with that? Talented football players, those who sign expensive contracts, are obliged to show all their skills. If there are none, then there will be no millions for which countries buy them. And anyone who starts playing football, starting from a child, always carries the idea of ​​leadership. I would say that this quality should be present in any athlete. If there is no talent, then they will always sit on the reserve bench.

You right but I still believes that there're players with active passion,so many players are still driven by passion for football.Theres a strong driving force for passion than the need for financial gain.
Passion and Money stands as a vital components of football but nowadays,and for some reasons best known to football fans whom have laid in complains,they believe that players are more focused on money than loyalty to their clubs and the sports entirely.

Yes, there may be but a handful of people who still have lower quality than the stars who have been printed in history, the fact is that currently when someone has a proud and prominent ability they will always be arrogant and will also make decisions based on their needs, this is not a strange thing because it has become a nature for someone who wants to live better of course has a greater money orientation that he can get, but in essence every player is the same, but there are those who do make money by playing football but there are also those who just want art with football.

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February 20, 2025, 02:39:50 PM
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I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful
In my view, soccer players have sacrificed a lot of energy, passions and trophies for their first club when they achieve the success by footballers.

For this reason, with the current era of money above everything and also the age factor that makes the soccer players think 100 © Drajat to get as much money as possible.
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Football players if seen from career are very short, not the same as company managers and entrepreneurs who can have a career until the age of 50-60 years in their business, while soccer players enter the age of 35 years and above, if you look at very rarely can defend themselves in the world of football, except: CR7, others rarely get opportunities like them.

So, an era in which money and all luxury, make sense for soccer players choose a club whose contract is better here there are no more career or passion considerations, before them Retirement instead they must be able to collect as much money as they can, I think many other reasons players choose money rather than passion.

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