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[robelneo]

But it can be pretty expensive to run so it's not for everyone. I would say it's a good approach to indeed look for other types of campaigns if one can't commit. It'd be a better use of budget. Though, I still wouldn't expect a pretty fast paced result. In general, it's more of a slow burn in the forum but can be lucrative once you have established a good presence.

Checking their campaign pay rate, they offer one of the highest. I don't blame them if they want to attract great posters, but marketing is not something you do short-term and you will get instant results. There should be a phase, people will notice, then they will recall, until it plays on their mind over and over again when thinking of a platform.
Familiarity is very important in marketing, so duration plays a big factor; one week is just too short to establish a recall. I'm sure they will do another round if they want to be competitive in a highly competitive niche.

[Haunebu]

Checking their campaign pay rate, they offer one of the highest. I don't blame them if they want to attract great posters, but marketing is not something you do short-term and you will get instant results. There should be a phase, people will notice, then they will recall, until it plays on their mind over and over again when thinking of a platform.
Familiarity is very important in marketing, so duration plays a big factor; one week is just too short to establish a recall. I'm sure they will do another round if they want to be competitive in a highly competitive niche.

Am not expecting them to conduct another round or more of signature campaigns in this forum since they don't seem particularly interested in it anymore and are more focused on other stuff like review campaigns etc.

It's definitely possible for sites to become popular even without long running signature campaigns through other forms of marketing for a long period of time.

[coin-investor]

Am not expecting them to conduct another round or more of signature campaigns in this forum since they don't seem particularly interested in it anymore and are more focused on other stuff like review campaigns etc.

We never know until they say so. A review campaign is also a good campaign and highly recommended too, but signature campaigns are like banner campaigns that show what your platform can offer in many sections of this forum. If they have the means and can keep up, I'm sure they will do that. We cannot argue the success of the top casinos that continuously do forum marketing; they know it works, but it has requirements for it to work.

It's definitely possible for sites to become popular even without long-running signature campaigns through other forms of marketing for a long period of time.

I agree there are other forms and platforms to do marketing, but there is a level of success for those who do marketing here in Bitcointalk.

[panjul07]

Checking their campaign pay rate, they offer one of the highest. I don't blame them if they want to attract great posters, but marketing is not something you do short-term and you will get instant results. There should be a phase, people will notice, then they will recall, until it plays on their mind over and over again when thinking of a platform.
Familiarity is very important in marketing, so duration plays a big factor; one week is just too short to establish a recall. I'm sure they will do another round if they want to be competitive in a highly competitive niche.

Am not expecting them to conduct another round or more of signature campaigns in this forum since they don't seem particularly interested in it anymore and are more focused on other stuff like review campaigns etc.

It's definitely possible for sites to become popular even without long running signature campaigns through other forms of marketing for a long period of time.

What I can see is that they expected too much from a week campaign and the result was too far away from their expectation, that's why they decided to pause it and maybe they will move to other ways.
As I've said previously in this thread 1-2 times, they should provide something attractive first in the casino to be as competitive as possible, because it is the most important thing to make players come and play.
Otherwise, even if they have so long campaign but they dont have something that may attract players, their campaign will be useless.
They should evaluate and do some researches on what are the most wanted things by gamblers especially crypto gamblers then they should consider to add those most wanted things in their casino.

[Wapfika]

What I can see is that they expected too much from a week campaign and the result was too far away from their expectation, that's why they decided to pause it and maybe they will move to other ways.
As I've said previously in this thread 1-2 times, they should provide something attractive first in the casino to be as competitive as possible, because it is the most important thing to make players come and play.
Otherwise, even if they have so long campaign but they dont have something that may attract players, their campaign will be useless.
They should evaluate and do some researches on what are the most wanted things by gamblers especially crypto gamblers then they should consider to add those most wanted things in their casino.

They also offer high rates on limited spots while they can just just hire average user for starters to have more reach using that same budget compared to their initial attempt on the campaign.

We all know that signature campaign effect can be experienced only via long term and through follow up promotions such as tournaments, giveaways and more instead of relying only on short term campaigns.

I hope they will stay here in the forum and launch more marketing.

[virasog]

They also offer high rates on limited spots while they can just just hire average user for starters to have more reach using that same budget compared to their initial attempt on the campaign.

So you think the target should be show more signatures on the forum with low budget but hire more users. I don't think it is a good idea. Basically, it's about the quality vs the quantity and i think in the long run, the quality matters.

However, it is not any of concern if they pause the campaign. They can re-evaluate and also sometimes the new casino do not gain more users overnight specially when the competition among the casino is huge. The marketing dept. has to manage the budget and at the same time make sure that there is expected level of ROI on marketing campaigns.

[Pandu Geddon]

They also offer high rates on limited spots while they can just just hire average user for starters to have more reach using that same budget compared to their initial attempt on the campaign.

So you think the target should be show more signatures on the forum with low budget but hire more users. I don't think it is a good idea. Basically, it's about the quality vs the quantity and i think in the long run, the quality matters.

However, it is not any of concern if they pause the campaign. They can re-evaluate and also sometimes the new casino do not gain more users overnight specially when the competition among the casino is huge. The marketing dept. has to manage the budget and at the same time make sure that there is expected level of ROI on marketing campaigns.

I think that's what the Betkin campaign manager wants to implement right now. Even though there are not many participants in their 1 week campaign, the manager chooses more participants with low pay. Nothing is wrong with that, as long as the participants don't mind it.

But if they want to continue the campaign or launch another campaign. It will be more important for them to provide something interesting for new users. If they don't provide an interesting promo combined with the campaign, it will be difficult to get new active users. After all, they are new, and of course, have more challenges to compete in the market.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

They also offer high rates on limited spots while they can just just hire average user for starters to have more reach using that same budget compared to their initial attempt on the campaign.

So you think the target should be show more signatures on the forum with low budget but hire more users. I don't think it is a good idea. Basically, it's about the quality vs the quantity and i think in the long run, the quality matters.

However, it is not any of concern if they pause the campaign. They can re-evaluate and also sometimes the new casino do not gain more users overnight specially when the competition among the casino is huge. The marketing dept. has to manage the budget and at the same time make sure that there is expected level of ROI on marketing campaigns.

In other words, which i personally think is actually more accurate, we can say that it's all about reputation, good reputation for the quality and not-so-good reputation for the quantity.

That is, if a casino wants to hire and work with only high ranking and reputable members on this forum, they definitely will have to spend more money because most high ranking and reputable member won't settle for peanuts as weekly payment.
While if the casino wants to pay far less, then it's very possible they will get a lot of applications still but they hardly will find any reputable member applying.

And on the norm, it's always better to mix this two, that is, hire reputable and not-so reputable members together because the reputable users in the campaign gives the company or casino some credibility and a good level of trust.

[OcTradism]

In other words, which i personally think is actually more accurate, we can say that it's all about reputation, good reputation for the quality and not-so-good reputation for the quantity.

That is, if a casino wants to hire and work with only high ranking and reputable members on this forum, they definitely will have to spend more money because most high ranking and reputable member won't settle for peanuts as weekly payment.
While if the casino wants to pay far less, then it's very possible they will get a lot of applications still but they hardly will find any reputable member applying.

And on the norm, it's always better to mix this two, that is, hire reputable and not-so reputable members together because the reputable users in the campaign gives the company or casino some credibility and a good level of trust.

I believe that a signature campaign for example as one of marketing methods in the forum, but is the most favorite one after advertisement banner ban from theymos will have different criteria from company and manager to choose participants and assess their campaign effects to their business.

I agree somewhat but disagree somewhat. Reputation can give impression at first glance with high green trust numbers, but it does not mean too much with forum members that are looking for good posts to read and learn. There are forum members who are new members, or old members but don't have high green trust numbers, but their posts are excellent.

A campaign can have a mixture of high trusted members and good quality posters.

[Haunebu]

As I've said previously in this thread 1-2 times, they should provide something attractive first in the casino to be as competitive as possible, because it is the most important thing to make players come and play.
Otherwise, even if they have so long campaign but they dont have something that may attract players, their campaign will be useless.
They should evaluate and do some researches on what are the most wanted things by gamblers especially crypto gamblers then they should consider to add those most wanted things in their casino.

Yeah. This is a valid point. They need something special to stand out in the saturated crypto gambling world for sure. Their signature campaign didn't really help them find that special feature, but their review campaign etc could later on.

Sites like Stake, Roobet etc were in a similar situation initially, but they found those gamechanging features with time which is something that these new sites can learn from.

[avp2306]

As I've said previously in this thread 1-2 times, they should provide something attractive first in the casino to be as competitive as possible, because it is the most important thing to make players come and play.
Otherwise, even if they have so long campaign but they dont have something that may attract players, their campaign will be useless.
They should evaluate and do some researches on what are the most wanted things by gamblers especially crypto gamblers then they should consider to add those most wanted things in their casino.

Yeah. This is a valid point. They need something special to stand out in the saturated crypto gambling world for sure. Their signature campaign didn't really help them find that special feature, but their review campaign etc could later on.

Sites like Stake, Roobet etc were in a similar situation initially, but they found those gamechanging features with time which is something that these new sites can learn from.

I guess lack of funding's maybe the key factor on why they decide to immediately stop their marketing since its like they are rushing everything since they don't have much resources to spend for marketing that's why they end up like that. But if they can able to at least follow what those successful do and maintain their consistency to place their banner ads by help of their signature campaign then they do lots of giveaways and tournaments with attractive rewards then maybe situation might became different and they can able to hit those their targets.

I like those 2 casinos doing and they are so successful because they know what to do also they are willing to spend just to make their casino to became more popular.

[virasog]

I guess lack of funding's maybe the key factor on why they decide to immediately stop their marketing since its like they are rushing everything since they don't have much resources to spend for marketing that's why they end up like that. But if they can able to at least follow what those successful do and maintain their consistency to place their banner ads by help of their signature campaign then they do lots of giveaways and tournaments with attractive rewards then maybe situation might became different and they can able to hit those their targets.

I do not have much insight into the reason the campaign stopped, but if they were rushing things to get the gamblers on the site, then it was a bad approach, especially when you do not have funds to sustain your marketing strategies.

Anyways, it is not the end of the world. Even if Betkin does not restart the campaign but focuses on doing the honest business, they will still grow. It may take time but good projects and businesses grow in the long term even without extensive marketing.

[CryptSafe]

It is best for casinos to clearly state their stand on the regional restrictions so that visitors can see for themselves before registering so that they do not blame anybody it they go against the ToS.

Valid reasoning. Logically, gamblers wouldn't be able to access the site if their country was restricted, but such lists are essential for clearing up any confusion completely.

I believe most times casinos intentionally do that upon launch to allow traffic to flow in and when they start getting the traffic they desire,  they update their terms of service and registered members would not know that until they want to make a withdrawal and the casino requests for kyc and then they would tell them that their country is on the restricted list and would get their account banned or suspended after they had deposited funds to play and won games. There was a time on this platform when cases of this nature were reported here and from findings, most of them were innocent as the casinos initially did not state their restricted nations and kyc as well but after a while, they secretly included it and did not inform their members using the claws of they changing their ToS on a discrete condition without the consent of the gamblers which the gamblers have accepted before signing on their casino.

Very important to make sure you read the terms and conditions of a casino and most importantly to take note of the regional restrictions areas, yes that means that it is better to avoid the sites, and contrate the casinos that allow your region to avoid any further problems may be the withdrawal request is made and in a large sum, most gamblers don't even know how to check for regional restrictions before their set out to gamble on most kyc compliance casinos some even create they account via VPN.

It is wise that at first, attention be given to the ToS of any casino one wants to play with to be informed and to know what is obtainable so that they do not regret their actions in the long run because this has caused many of their assets and lots of games they had won. One thing I always do when I want to register with a casino is to first go to their terms and conditions of service, first and foremost, I check for regional restrictions before I check for kyc so I don't start dragging fit with them. I make sure I am in the know then I will ask customer care any question if I am not clear with any claws I have seen for proper explanations and understanding before I proceed. I think this is just the right thing to do so that one does not get stuck in the process of registering or playing with a casino.  These are just the little things to be done before depositing so that one does not have any hard time with the casino making withdrawals.

[Wonder Work]

Am not expecting them to conduct another round or more of signature campaigns in this forum since they don't seem particularly interested in it anymore and are more focused on other stuff like review campaigns etc.

It's definitely possible for sites to become popular even without long running signature campaigns through other forms of marketing for a long period of time.

Looking at the manager through whom they ran the campaign and the high payment requirement, it seemed that this campaign would not go far. But later I saw that they were trying to do something fairly good. In the end, I was right that this campaign could not go far. This may be a problem with the Sig. Cam. Manager. The project manager could not be convinced well and they may have lost interest after seeing this high payment.

Again,
If you pay special attention, you will see that the project manager is not that active here and did not respond well to everyone's comments. Although it has already been stopped, the campaign manager could have reduced the payment a little and run it for a few more weeks. If it could have run for a few weeks, then some progress would have been seen from here.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Am not expecting them to conduct another round or more of signature campaigns in this forum since they don't seem particularly interested in it anymore and are more focused on other stuff like review campaigns etc.

It's definitely possible for sites to become popular even without long running signature campaigns through other forms of marketing for a long period of time.

Looking at the manager through whom they ran the campaign and the high payment requirement, it seemed that this campaign would not go far. But later I saw that they were trying to do something fairly good. In the end, I was right that this campaign could not go far. This may be a problem with the Sig. Cam. Manager. The project manager could not be convinced well and they may have lost interest after seeing this high payment.

Again,
If you pay special attention, you will see that the project manager is not that active here and did not respond well to everyone's comments. Although it has already been stopped, the campaign manager could have reduced the payment a little and run it for a few more weeks. If it could have run for a few weeks, then some progress would have been seen from here.

Have the signature campaign manager finally paid the participants of the signature ad campaign? The answer is No, and it happened that a friend of mine also participated in the campaign and up and until not, he's not gotten his payment for the one week campaign lasted, I somehow got in contact with the campaign manager and I asked him his participants haven't still be paid up and until now, he said that the price of bitcoin went down and the usd worth of the bitcoin he had was no longer enough to settle all the participants.

As much as I think this reason is valid, it still appeared very unprofessional to me,  he promised that payment will be sent out today (still waiting to confirm this with my friend), and I think the campaign manager deliberately decided to put payment rates high so that he could get alot of application even from top reputable users of this forum, and as well as merits and other benefits, and I also think their intentions from onset was to run the campaign for one week.

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[Pandu Geddon]

Have the signature campaign manager finally paid the participants of the signature ad campaign? The answer is No, and it happened that a friend of mine also participated in the campaign and up and until not, he's not gotten his payment for the one week campaign lasted, I somehow got in contact with the campaign manager and I asked him his participants haven't still be paid up and until now, he said that the price of bitcoin went down and the usd worth of the bitcoin he had was no longer enough to settle all the participants.

As much as I think this reason is valid, it still appeared very unprofessional to me,  he promised that payment will be sent out today (still waiting to confirm this with my friend), and I think the campaign manager deliberately decided to put payment rates high so that he could get alot of application even from top reputable users of this forum, and as well as merits and other benefits, and I also think their intentions from onset was to run the campaign for one week.

I see in the spreadsheet signature campaign that there are members who were paid via TRX addresses, maybe the manager paid using USDT. But I don't know if all payments have been made. Because in the spreadsheet only two participants have TRX addresses.

The campaign finished some time ago. I think it is the manager's obligation to pay all participants. If there is a delay, maybe he can provide a reason or compensation to all participants.
Hopefully the manager can be better at managing the campaign.

[Odohu]

Just a week campaign, this is quite sudden, and with the way the campaign was hyped I thought is was going to be a long-lasting signature campaign, what happens to those selected for custom deals, are they also going to pause their work as a main signature is now pause, any ways I hope this team gets the results they're deserved and also it is going to be an exciting time to have a review campaign coming up so looking forward that.

Actually we had more campaign in a row,So stay updated.After a week over,we had not received any new registration after the campaign applying day.So planned to launch some other campaign in upcoming weeks

Thank you

If I understand you correctly,  you were expecting the entire forum users to register in your platform after just one week of running a signature campaign? Well, I don't know who gave you that assurance that one week of running a signature campaign will bring all the traffic you dream of. You obviously do not understand this place and how things are done here. Running one week of signature campaign is even worse than not running a campaign because I will be perceived as a sign of unseriousness or unpreparedness. Remember that you are here to get a share of the customers of already established casinos that have built their reputation for years, to succeed, you must bring something enticing and assuring.

[Wonder Work]

Have the signature campaign manager finally paid the participants of the signature ad campaign? The answer is No, and it happened that a friend of mine also participated in the campaign and up and until not, he's not gotten his payment for the one week campaign lasted, I somehow got in contact with the campaign manager and I asked him his participants haven't still be paid up and until now, he said that the price of bitcoin went down and the usd worth of the bitcoin he had was no longer enough to settle all the participants.

As much as I think this reason is valid, it still appeared very unprofessional to me,  he promised that payment will be sent out today (still waiting to confirm this with my friend), and I think the campaign manager deliberately decided to put payment rates high so that he could get alot of application even from top reputable users of this forum, and as well as merits and other benefits, and I also think their intentions from onset was to run the campaign for one week.

So, look at one thing, the weekly date for running the signature campaign, which is not paid even after it has ended, I think the kind of talk he is talking about is unreasonable. Because when he took the weekly payment from the project manager and also called it the escrow balance, he should have paid it as soon as the week ended. When the week ended, the price of Bitcoin was not very low, but it was in a fairly good position, yet he did not pay. His behavior is ruining his reputation as the signature campaign manager of the forum.

Another way to say it:
Since he told you that he is having trouble making payments due to the decrease in the price of BTC. If such an incident had happened, he could have made an announcement, the price of Bitcoin has decreased, so I have made the payment that can be made from the escrow balance. But the kind of talk he is talking about without making payments does not really seem acceptable to me.

[Akbarkoe]

Actually we had more campaign in a row,So stay updated.After a week over,we had not received any new registration after the campaign applying day.So planned to launch some other campaign in upcoming weeks

Thank you

If I understand you correctly,  you were expecting the entire forum users to register in your platform after just one week of running a signature campaign? Well, I don't know who gave you that assurance that one week of running a signature campaign will bring all the traffic you dream of. You obviously do not understand this place and how things are done here. Running one week of signature campaign is even worse than not running a campaign because I will be perceived as a sign of unseriousness or unpreparedness. Remember that you are here to get a share of the customers of already established casinos that have built their reputation for years, to succeed, you must bring something enticing and assuring.

Competing here is quite difficult, especially with the casinos that have been around for a long time and are big here, they initially did not find it easy to get registrants, but they remained persistent and tried and tried until they finally became big in the forum and very famous, maybe it was wrong in doing marketing management, representatives from the casino must ask for a different way to be more attractive so that gamblers in the forum are interested in trying the casino that they advertise here, because in a tight forum like today, marketing innovation needs to be increased to attract the appeal of consumers, and that is what is often missed so that marketing failure occurs.