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lets get it straight: the tarriffs did not in the real world activate at such a date. the tariffs were not mentioned in social media only on one date
however the bybit hack shows actual market influence and happened at a actual date.. so if the only thing you could find on your notifications was "trump said" then it shows your notification settings are bias to be trump centric.. ... expand your knowledge. follow other sources of information. if your notifications only ping to trump.. realise your problem.
You should know it doesn't need the thing really happened to affect the market. Remember with El Salvador accepting Bitcoin as legal tender? the rumor was start in June 2021 and they consider to accept it on September 7, 2021. Before September 7, 2021, Bitcoin price rose from July-August, after Nayib Bukele declared the official announcement, Bitcoin price went down and "for no reason" Bitcoin make new ATH in Q4 because of "the pattern". Do you think people are using Bitcoin in El Salvador? the market react when there was a news/rumors from big people, it's not always when the actual thing happen.
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You should know it doesn't need the thing really happened to affect the market.
Remember with El Salvador accepting Bitcoin as legal tender? the rumor was start in June 2021 and they consider to accept it on September 7, 2021. Before September 7, 2021, Bitcoin price rose from July-August, after Nayib Bukele declared the official announcement, Bitcoin price went down and "for no reason" Bitcoin make new ATH in Q4 because of "the pattern".
Do you think people are using Bitcoin in El Salvador? the market react when there was a news/rumors from big people, it's not always when the actual thing happen.
News are just propelling the sentiment forward. Usually with some real stuff going in the background 
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
No, you're not overthinking and your observation is valid just everyone else. We're now coming to the point that the market is being affected by political stance by any leader in the world and one superpower leader says something, the market reacts. We've seen this already before although not coming from an actual leader but a general statement from the likes of China. I think the other presidents and political leaders might get some influence and manipulation as well with this idea that they're getting with Trump. But they'll have to know if they've got enough influence to move the market.
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
You ain't overthinking it, because I have seen exactly what you mean due to my own observation of the market trend, yet someone was praying that the price of Bitcoin should drop to enable him take advantage and acquire some Bitcoin because it would obviously be cheaper. Besides the Bitcoin strategic reserve that is set to include XRP, SOL and ADA, it is just number one in the list of things to do as president now, mostly as it regards the economy and induction of cryptocurrency as a legal tender into the country, U.S. The President with the backings of the White House of course,is also set to host the first ever crypto summit in the by March 7th. So we might just expect the price of BTC to increase further while other cryptos do well due to the positive presence of President Trump and his advocacy for crypto currency.
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
By how current thing moves its like he really is and this is the effect of people always listening to what this leaders say. If these crazy people will stop give weights on what word came out on the mouth of these leaders and continue to do their thing for sure that these official could see that their influence is nothing in crypto space. But if Trump fail to deliver what he promise to people then for sure that he would lose the trust of people and maybe he would notice that people would stop listening to his craziness just like what happen to Elon Musk before.
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
Trump can't really dictate the market however what is happening here is that he wield great influence as the president of US, so what whatever he says right now will impact crypto currency in either positive or negative way depending on his speech.when he made mention of making some crypto currency part of US reserves, the price of bitcoin skyrocket and also that of etherium.Though even without his influence bitcoin would have still come up to the recent price and above because bitcoin has proven to be a potential coin over the years without any single man dictating it's price.
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Indeed, Trump holds a strong position and influence in the market and that’s why he can easily influence the Bitcoin market, but that doesn’t mean that he’s the dictator of the market, there are also several things that influences the market movement, and Donald Trump happens to be one of them.
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If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
100% you’re right and this is what happening right now. Many overlooked on what they did on his Trump coin and Melania coin that both becomes pump and dump scheme while they profited a lot by taking profit using investors money as exit liquidity. And now that they are done on their meme coin, he is pumping all the altcoins that he purchased before through his tweets that related to crypto using his power as president of US. This is the most powerful market manipulation which no one can stop.
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But if I must say, I'm in same spot with you because I've times come to observe that every atomeof Trump's contributions to bitcoin has not only be influential but also manifesting accordingly. His single headed influence has as well made me believed that truly the crypto markets can be manipulated and obviously Trump has proven it on different events following his political personalities.
Can the market be manipulated? Yes because manipulation is base on influence on people sentiment, can one dictate this market? No because without the change of investors sentiment nothing can affect the price, Trump is a president of one of the most powerful nations in the world any news from them causes the market to react to it, Trump isn’t the first person or an entity having his power to influence a market, rather it is the investors who control the market, what trump statement did yesterday was to simply create FOMO or FUD and people ride on it. I don’t know why people are making this looks like this is the first of this kid of manipulation
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maybe it's more about manipulation than dictating. because he issued a decision to impose high tariffs on 3 countries, which caused the price of bitcoin to drop. and then he just issued a statement to create crypto reserves and caused the price of bitcoin to increase. these events can be linked to bitcoin price manipulation. although some people say that this is a natural thing in the bitcoin market, but we can't separate it from trump's decision which seems to affect the price of bitcoin.
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it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says
Your observation is valid. It does not mean that Trump is the dictator of the market however. It only means the world considers the words coming from the mouth of the sitting President of The United States to be very important and they act accordingly as if predicting what the future of the market is. This has been happening probably ever since the Stock Market exists. Even before Bitcoin was a thing, you could pull up a United States Stocks chart while the sitting President spoke and you could see the markets react in real time. It is real, it is a valid observation. And considering how influencial Musk was to the Cryptocurrency market, I would not be surprised if a similar effect or influence is propelled by the current administration. Remember Trump launched a Shitcoin only days before his inauguration. There may be good news for Bitcon every now and then, but for the most part I will be extremely skeptical of his true intentions.
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lets get it straight: the tarriffs did not in the real world activate at such a date. the tariffs were not mentioned in social media only on one date
however the bybit hack shows actual market influence and happened at a actual date.. so if the only thing you could find on your notifications was "trump said" then it shows your notification settings are bias to be trump centric.. ... expand your knowledge. follow other sources of information. if your notifications only ping to trump.. realise your problem.
You should know it doesn't need the thing really happened to affect the market. Remember with El Salvador accepting Bitcoin as legal tender? the rumor was start in June 2021 and they consider to accept it on September 7, 2021. Before September 7, 2021, Bitcoin price rose from July-August, after Nayib Bukele declared the official announcement, Bitcoin price went down and "for no reason" Bitcoin make new ATH in Q4 because of "the pattern". Do you think people are using Bitcoin in El Salvador? the market react when there was a news/rumors from big people, it's not always when the actual thing happen. you do know that bitcoins 2021 ATH was due to bitcoin economics of the post halving cycle reaction. when miners whom have a 12-18-24month mining rig lifecycle cost they have to reassess, and their electric contracts, result in a ATH a year and a half after the halving on average due to them not wanting to sell at a lower price due to the shift in cost economics if you think bitcoin has no underlying cost bases of economics and is just a charade of social drama speculation.. then you dont understand bitcoin economics yes social drama can change price. but thats just some temporal wiggle that retracts back. again the dump recently was not tariff social drama.. but actual bitcoin effect of a hack and movement of funds. if the only notifications you get are trump related.. so you infer any notification you get and then seeing a price change must mean cause-effect.. then please realise your limited notification list is the problem. your limited knowledge of other bitcoin economic factors at play is the problem oh as for 2021 wasnt the social drama queen newbie emotional army of influence loving traders trying to say that the 2021ATH was due purely because elon announced he bought bitcoin from february 2021 and how people can buy a tesla car with bitcoin in march 2021"it triggered the bull" nonsense kinda funny that people(like you) then said the 2021ATH was purely elsalvador even though people in 2013 predicted a ATH in 2017 due to a year after halving(2016+1) even though people in 2013 predicted a ATH in 2021 due to a year after halving(2020+1) and heck ill say it now even without knowing what tweet or social post will say.. there will be a ATH event in 2029 and we have yet to see 2025's proper ATH, and its not due until q3-q4 2025 and no i didnt get my info from some social drama queen on social media.
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March 03, 2025, 02:46:49 PM |
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
We have a new crypto market manipulator in town. Feeling sorry for Elon Musk that Trump has taken his place. Yes, the price of bitcoin and other altcoins are directly impacted by what Trump is announcing but it's just because of his presidency. It wouldn't have made a major impact if he wasn't the president. For instance, he's now thinking to create a strategic reserve comprising of bitcoin and altcoins which pumped the prices. We never know how long Trump will keep manipulating the prices but for now, it's more of like a pump and dump.
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March 03, 2025, 03:04:53 PM |
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What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
It's not entirely up to him but it's one of the factors that causes the market to go up and down. For some reason my mind is drawn to the Bitcoin market going up and down. If the nature of Bitcoin cannot be controlled by anyone but regarding the price, I go back to the law of supply and demand. It's possible for someone with money and power to play the market.
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March 03, 2025, 04:04:43 PM |
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
Don't forget, op, that Trump is a great businessman, so I think he knows how to tickle the other crypto communities so that he can profit from bitcoin and even other top altcoins in this industry. It may have helped us that he did these things about bitcoin reserves and even other top altcoins, he also plans to do the same like ETH, Xrp and others.
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March 03, 2025, 04:21:52 PM |
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What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
I also thought the same. I mean, who wouldn't think this way, seeing that every time Trump makes a public statement concerning Bitcoin, the market reacts? People call it manipulation, and I keep asking myself why investors and traders keep allowing themselves to be manipulated by the big guys. The rate at which the market reacts is usually so sudden and quick. We are putting too much emotion into this, making impulsive decisions at the slightest news, and all of this impacts Bitcoin's price, which in turn affects us, the investors. If we continue to react to every news this way, we would definitely be selling ourselves into the hands of these big guys to manipulate us as much as they want. With the way things are going, yes, Trump has some influence over the market.
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March 03, 2025, 04:28:10 PM |
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
Your observation is quite valid, he is the leader of a very powerful country after all. Entire markets go up and down based on his words and actions so why would Bitcoin not belong in this category? If he says he wants a crypto reserve, that triggers more Bitcoin buying. And, in fact, other countries tend to follow suit after the US. So yeah, it is a big deal. Bitcoin might reach previously unthinkable heights. 
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March 03, 2025, 04:30:21 PM |
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Like it or not, he has an influence to the market. If we continue to react to every news this way, we would definitely be selling ourselves into the hands of these big guys to manipulate us as much as they want. With the way things are going, yes, Trump has some influence over the market.
But don't forget that they're traders? traders are looking for short term gains, hence they don't mind to buy and sell based on the current news. Trump might manipulate the market, but some people are getting this as their benefit because they can more than what they should be. Imagine if someone bought Cardano when the price was $0.6 and after a day the price rose to $1.1, you're almost double your money less than 24 hours.
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March 03, 2025, 04:30:43 PM |
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Trump have a huge influence of the market. Being the president of the world's biggest economy and the country where Satasho is a citizen is something that should influence the crypto market because his decision and policy can affect so many companies and their businesses. However, I will not say that Trump dictates the market, instead it is right to say that he influence the market in a great way so much that whenever he make any major pronouncement, the market respond accordingly. This is just like influencing the market but definitely not dictating it.
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March 03, 2025, 04:49:00 PM |
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What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
It's a valid observation that's looking at us so glaring in the face. From the reaction of Bitcoin in the lead-up to his inauguration and how far Bitcoin went after his inaugural speech to this current pump after the strategic reserve option seems to be more realistic, it says a lot about Trump's ability to manipulate the market if he stands as the most influential Bitcoin whale in the future Even in other sectors that are outside of Bitcoin, the United States' internal policy tends to have a ripple effect across nations which tells how powerful the United State is in global affairs. As a positive statement is getting Bitcoin on a bullish part, the implication is that the reverse can be the case which can lead to a dump at some point. Again, we can't really tell the intention of Trump towards crypto and whether he's genuinely a Bitcoin enthusiast who's in for the full-scale adoption of Bitcoin or just trying to jump in, get some profit, and zoom off. If the latter is the case, his ability to manipulate the market will pose a threat to Bitcoin investors though the extent of the threat won't be too significant.
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