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Excuse me, did this actually happen to you, or is it just a hypothesis? If this actually happened, it's a serious matter, and the service must prevent such incidents from occurring, as this would quickly damage the site's reputation. If this is an example, I believe OP should clarify, since he claims the service is decentralized and the user has the access to obtain the secret key to the deposit address.
It's just a hypothesis and a 'what if' question. The address I shared in my previous post is an actual address that the exchange generated for me where I should deposit my bitcoin if I wanted to do a swap. I am asking OP where would I get the keys to that address. When you exchanged on EXCH, did they also give you the private key of your deposit address?  eXch has nothing to do with CCE.Cash or this discussion. I know why I am asking the questions I am asking. eXch didn't claim it was a non-custodial and decentralized exchange. CCE.Cash says it is. I am asking OP to explain how it works. If it's non-custodial, I am asking where the keys are to the deposit addresses. If it's decentralized, I am asking how to perform swaps when the website is offline and how to connect P2P to other market participants. According to OP, transactions are conducted directly between two parties. Meaning, I (the buyer) am connected directly to the seller. I want the OP to explain how that connection works if the CCE.Cash service is down?
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Excuse me, did this actually happen to you, or is it just a hypothesis? If this actually happened, it's a serious matter, and the service must prevent such incidents from occurring, as this would quickly damage the site's reputation. If this is an example, I believe OP should clarify, since he claims the service is decentralized and the user has the access to obtain the secret key to the deposit address.
It's just a hypothesis and a 'what if' question. The address I shared in my previous post is an actual address that the exchange generated for me where I should deposit my bitcoin if I wanted to do a swap. I am asking OP where would I get the keys to that address. When you exchanged on EXCH, did they also give you the private key of your deposit address?  eXch has nothing to do with CCE.Cash or this discussion. I know why I am asking the questions I am asking. eXch didn't claim it was a non-custodial and decentralized exchange. CCE.Cash says it is. I am asking OP to explain how it works. If it's non-custodial, I am asking where the keys are to the deposit addresses. If it's decentralized, I am asking how to perform swaps when the website is offline and how to connect P2P to other market participants. According to OP, transactions are conducted directly between two parties. Meaning, I (the buyer) am connected directly to the seller. I want the OP to explain how that connection works if the CCE.Cash service is down? This is what I asked fixedfloat, and their answer is decentralized trading! According to your understanding of decentralization, do you think they are? They are all exchanges, not centralized or decentralized. So the question you asked the original poster is meaningless, because it is obviously not a decentralized exchange, nor centralized, and all exchanges on the market are just exchanges. Any exchange on the market can say that it is decentralized or centralized, but you don’t think so, because this is an obvious mistake! ! They are just an exchange, there are a lot of them on bestchange!
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No KYC required: Unlike centralized exchanges, CCECash does not require KYC verification, thereby protecting the anonymity of users.
I'm confused. You keep saying KYC isn't required, but on the FAQ page, it states you've " partnered with SumSub [a known KYC provider]" while in your TOS, you're claiming you've been cooperating with them " since June 2021"! Either those parts are no longer accurate or you're trying to mislead your users... Which one is it?
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This is what I asked fixedfloat, and their answer is decentralized trading! According to your understanding of decentralization, do you think they are?
Now you bring FixedFloat into the discussion. What's next? Binance? FixedFloat is neither non-custodial nor decentralized regardless of what its customer support claims. They either don't know what they are talking about or they are simply lying to you. Either way, it's again irrelevant to the topic of discussion. Decentralization and (non) custody aren't matters of opinion where you can think that something is and another person thinks it's not. A service is either custodial or non-custodial and the same goes for centralized vs decentralized. I want to hear OP's answers to the questions I asked. I am not going to reply to any of your future off-topic questions in this thread.
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Hi @CCECash, I read the tutorial and got confused by one piece of information: As shown in the figure: If you need to exchange BTC for ETH, select BTC on the top and ETH on the bottom. Enter the amount of BTC you wish to exchange in the top field. The bottom field will automatically calculate the corresponding amount of ETH based on the real-time exchange rate. Then, enter your BTC address in the address field. Next, choose either a fixed rate or a floating rate (for questions about rates, see the FAQ), and click Start Exchange. Since a BTC address will be generated for sending the currency to be exchanged (in this example), wouldn't the address to be entered in the mentioned field be the ETH address, so that I receive the amount I requested? If I misunderstood, that's fine. But if the information is wrong, it's best to correct it so that users don't lose their coins. Furthermore, welcome to the forum. I've read a lot of questions about the service, but that's just how it is. This is the place where we discuss ideas and test new concepts, platforms, currencies, services, etc. I wish you success!
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Welcome to the forum @CCECash it's great to see an exchange that does cares about privacy. 2. Privacy and permissionlessness No KYC required: Unlike centralized exchanges, CCECash does not require KYC verification, thereby protecting the anonymity of users.
I'm quite curious, how are we sure that there's no hidden Clause that could lead to KYC been needed Maybe a fund coming from a supposed illegal A user experienced same with GODEX, a sight that claimed that they don't do KYC By branding his funds as supposedly illicit.
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When one of the oldest exchange in this forum is packing up. It is good to see that a new exchange is taking it's place. Whilst whois is giving us information that it is established in last year, we believe that it has been in formation for quite some time. Cross chain, near instant and AVailability of most chains adds value to the ecosystem. Atomic swaps are a kind and then there is zero KYC platform.
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Hi @CCECash, I read the tutorial and got confused by one piece of information: As shown in the figure: If you need to exchange BTC for ETH, select BTC on the top and ETH on the bottom. Enter the amount of BTC you wish to exchange in the top field. The bottom field will automatically calculate the corresponding amount of ETH based on the real-time exchange rate. Then, enter your BTC address in the address field. Next, choose either a fixed rate or a floating rate (for questions about rates, see the FAQ), and click Start Exchange. Since a BTC address will be generated for sending the currency to be exchanged (in this example), wouldn't the address to be entered in the mentioned field be the ETH address, so that I receive the amount I requested? If I misunderstood, that's fine. But if the information is wrong, it's best to correct it so that users don't lose their coins. Furthermore, welcome to the forum. I've read a lot of questions about the service, but that's just how it is. This is the place where we discuss ideas and test new concepts, platforms, currencies, services, etc. I wish you success! Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We’ve reviewed the issue and will resolve it as soon as possible. Your feedback is invaluable to us, and we deeply appreciate you taking the time to share it—it helps us improve. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with any further suggestions or concerns.
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@CCECash It sounds like your company is committed to providing good service. You fixed that timeline situation from your previous project to this one.
My question goes in another direction. How long are you willing to continue this service? I see that your domain's validity ends in 2025 (the year you launched the service). One way to show that you want to go as far as possible with this service is to have a long-lasting domain. This doesn't mean that they are more legitimate or that the service will last that long, but it conveys greater trust.
Another tip: never say they are KYC free. Because they are not. If there is a possibility that at some point they will be required by law to request KYC, then they are not KYC free.
Do they want to be KYC free, according to the law? Well, they keep using their rating system, and whenever a transaction is flagged, you simply cancel the process and send the money back. They don't hold, they don't ask for KYC, they don't do anything, they just give it back.
I know that in your terms, in point 3.8.2., you say that you will refund the money if the user does not accept to do the KYC, but with some limits. So, we continue in the same case, it is not free KYC.
For me, being KYC free means never asking the user for any data. So, if you want to be KYC free, just return the money whenever your analysis system flags something.
If you really can't do that, then never say you are "KYC free", at least say "KYC not required". With an "asterisk" for the terms.
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I'm quite curious, how are we sure that there's no hidden Clause that could lead to KYC been needed Maybe a fund coming from a supposed illegal A user experienced same with GODEX, a sight that claimed that they don't do KYC By branding his funds as supposedly illicit.
CCE.Cash is not a no-KYC exchange. Please check my older posts in this thread and go through their T&Cs carefully. You could get your funds frozen and the exchange may ask you to undergo identity verification. You have the right to say no and demand your money to be returned to you. Depending on the case, they may or may not do that until you submit the documents they asked for. Only them and the third party they use will determine how "dirty" your crypto is and if you will get a refund or if the coins will be in their custody until you comply. That's not KYC-free, it's not non-custodial and it's not decentralized. @CCE.CashI am asking OP to explain how it works. If it's non-custodial, I am asking where the keys are to the deposit addresses. If it's decentralized, I am asking how to perform swaps when the website is offline and how to connect P2P to other market participants. According to OP, transactions are conducted directly between two parties. Meaning, I (the buyer) am connected directly to the seller. I want the OP to explain how that connection works if the CCE.Cash service is down?
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CCE.Cash is not a no-KYC exchange.
Yes, their terms page reflects all details about KYC. However this is No Account exchange. There was this unnoticed error in the signature banner and it has fixed now.
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I'm quite curious, how are we sure that there's no hidden Clause that could lead to KYC been needed Maybe a fund coming from a supposed illegal A user experienced same with GODEX, a sight that claimed that they don't do KYC By branding his funds as supposedly illicit.
CCE.Cash is not a no-KYC exchange. Please check my older posts in this thread and go through their T&Cs carefully. You could get your funds frozen and the exchange may ask you to undergo identity verification. You have the right to say no and demand your money to be returned to you. Depending on the case, they may or may not do that until you submit the documents they asked for. Only them and the third party they use will determine how "dirty" your crypto is and if you will get a refund or if the coins will be in their custody until you comply. That's not KYC-free, it's not non-custodial and it's not decentralized. @CCE.CashI am asking OP to explain how it works. If it's non-custodial, I am asking where the keys are to the deposit addresses. If it's decentralized, I am asking how to perform swaps when the website is offline and how to connect P2P to other market participants. According to OP, transactions are conducted directly between two parties. Meaning, I (the buyer) am connected directly to the seller. I want the OP to explain how that connection works if the CCE.Cash service is down? Hello, thank you for your question. Please read our official terms carefully. If you have any KYC questions, please contact our official expert email: support@cce.cashThank you for your support. Thank you
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I'm quite curious, how are we sure that there's no hidden Clause that could lead to KYC been needed Maybe a fund coming from a supposed illegal A user experienced same with GODEX, a sight that claimed that they don't do KYC By branding his funds as supposedly illicit.
CCE.Cash is not a no-KYC exchange. Please check my older posts in this thread and go through their T&Cs carefully. You could get your funds frozen and the exchange may ask you to undergo identity verification. You have the right to say no and demand your money to be returned to you. Depending on the case, they may or may not do that until you submit the documents they asked for. Only them and the third party they use will determine how "dirty" your crypto is and if you will get a refund or if the coins will be in their custody until you comply. That's not KYC-free, it's not non-custodial and it's not decentralized. @CCE.CashI am asking OP to explain how it works. If it's non-custodial, I am asking where the keys are to the deposit addresses. If it's decentralized, I am asking how to perform swaps when the website is offline and how to connect P2P to other market participants. According to OP, transactions are conducted directly between two parties. Meaning, I (the buyer) am connected directly to the seller. I want the OP to explain how that connection works if the CCE.Cash service is down? You know it! You seem to know everything. Have you verified everything you said?
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The difference between CCECash (semi-custodial exchange) and non-custodial wallets lies in their core functionality, custody model, and user control.
CCECash focuses on cryptocurrency exchange services for asset exchange/trading (e.g. BTC to ETH). Acts as an intermediary to facilitate transactions, but temporarily holds user funds during the transaction. Users must send cryptocurrency to a CCECash address to initiate the exchange. During the processing, CCECash controls the funds. Users rely on CCECash to complete the transaction.
Non-custodial wallets: (e.g. MetaMask, Ledger, Trust Wallet). Allows users to securely store, send, and receive cryptocurrency while fully controlling their private keys. Users always control their private keys and funds. Transactions are signed directly from their wallets (e.g. MetaMask) without the involvement of a third party.
CCECash: Focuses on fast, automated exchanges (usually cross-chain) without the need to register a real name. Does not provide storage or portfolio management tools. Best for quick and simple exchange between cryptocurrencies (e.g. BTC to XMR) and minimizes transaction friction. Suitable for users who prioritize speed rather than full self-custody.
Non-custodial wallet: Store assets and interact directly with decentralized applications (dApps) or decentralized exchanges (DEX) such as Uniswap. Allow users to pledge, borrow and lend through DeFi protocols without giving up custody. A must-have tool for long-term storage, participation in DeFi, NFT management, or interaction with DEX. Ideal for users who prioritize full ownership and decentralization.
CCECash is a temporary custodian for swaps and is more suitable for fast transactions.
Non-custodial wallets prioritize full user control and are the foundation of decentralized finance (DeFi). For true self-custody, non-custodial wallets can be paired with decentralized exchanges (DEX) such as Uniswap.
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However this is No Account exchange.
It is a no account exchange and that's fine. That's the standard way that instant exchanges operate. What I don't think is fine is claiming to be non-custodial and decentralized. CCE.Cash still claims that and it's written in their correspondence here with the community. The difference between CCECash (semi-custodial exchange) and non-custodial wallets lies in their core functionality, custody model, and user control.
CCECash focuses on cryptocurrency exchange services for asset exchange/trading (e.g. BTC to ETH). Acts as an intermediary to facilitate transactions, but temporarily holds user funds during the transaction. Users must send cryptocurrency to a CCECash address to initiate the exchange. During the processing, CCECash controls the funds. Users rely on CCECash to complete the transaction.
CCECash:..Suitable for users who prioritize speed rather than full self-custody.
CCECash is a temporary custodian for swaps and is more suitable for fast transactions.
Can we stop beating around the bush please and call things the way they are. You went from claiming you are non custodial to calling yourself semi-custodial, and a temporary user-funds-holder. You are custodial. That's it. You and your intermediaries have custody of the coins until they get deposited into user wallets. The users don't have control of their money until the exchange is over. That's how a custodial service operates. It's based on trust. Trust that the custodian will do the right thing and exchange the funds and give up custody of them. I see no problem in an exchange being custodial as long as they are honest about it. You haven't been honest. You are neither decentralized nor non custodial and the question is how long are you going to claim that you are? You are new on the forum. Be honest with your potential customers to be able to build trust. Personally, I would never try a service that isn't telling me the truth. Everyone else can make up their own minds. Additionally, if you were non custodial, you and your intermediaries wouldn't be able to freeze coins and request KYC. Your users could simply import their keys into a real non custodial wallet and forget about you and the KYC requirements. But they can't do that because they don't have custody of the coins. You have.
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TOS:"CCE Cash partners with a KYC provider called SumSub. To verify your identity, you can click on the SumSub link (located below the 'Verify' button) and complete the verification through a comfortable and smooth UI. You will have 3 days to complete the verification process. If you do not wish to go through KYC, you can refuse (in this case, send a message to the support team at support@cce.cash) and get a refund." I like it. I am a big opponent of AML/KYC but if these requirements are not met, then the service will be used by hackers and scammers and then there will be accusations from the government and the service will be closed. Why repeat the mistakes of other projects?
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However this is No Account exchange.
It is a no account exchange and that's fine. That's the standard way that instant exchanges operate. What I don't think is fine is claiming to be non-custodial and decentralized. CCE.Cash still claims that and it's written in their correspondence here with the community. The difference between CCECash (semi-custodial exchange) and non-custodial wallets lies in their core functionality, custody model, and user control.
CCECash focuses on cryptocurrency exchange services for asset exchange/trading (e.g. BTC to ETH). Acts as an intermediary to facilitate transactions, but temporarily holds user funds during the transaction. Users must send cryptocurrency to a CCECash address to initiate the exchange. During the processing, CCECash controls the funds. Users rely on CCECash to complete the transaction.
CCECash:..Suitable for users who prioritize speed rather than full self-custody.
CCECash is a temporary custodian for swaps and is more suitable for fast transactions.
Can we stop beating around the bush please and call things the way they are. You went from claiming you are non custodial to calling yourself semi-custodial, and a temporary user-funds-holder. You are custodial. That's it. You and your intermediaries have custody of the coins until they get deposited into user wallets. The users don't have control of their money until the exchange is over. That's how a custodial service operates. It's based on trust. Trust that the custodian will do the right thing and exchange the funds and give up custody of them. I see no problem in an exchange being custodial as long as they are honest about it. You haven't been honest. You are neither decentralized nor non custodial and the question is how long are you going to claim that you are? You are new on the forum. Be honest with your potential customers to be able to build trust. Personally, I would never try a service that isn't telling me the truth. Everyone else can make up their own minds. Additionally, if you were non custodial, you and your intermediaries wouldn't be able to freeze coins and request KYC. Your users could simply import their keys into a real non custodial wallet and forget about you and the KYC requirements. But they can't do that because they don't have custody of the coins. You have. The point you have been attacking is that the OP said that they are "decentralized and KYC-free". Your judgment is based on subjective judgment only, and there is no objective factual basis at all. You are jumping around here and picking all kinds of faults. Before picking all kinds of faults, please come up with real evidence yourself, such as you used this service and found that it was not consistent with their propaganda, so that your statement is more true. Don't attack others based on just a little text information! If this post is easybit, if they dare to promote their "NO KYC". I will attack them mercilessly like you, because they will conduct KYC verification and have not returned my funds (it has been 7 months). I have all the transaction evidence and screenshots to prove it, instead of attacking here without any basis like you!
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Thank you for clarifying the distinction. Here's a concise breakdown of CCECash based on your description:
Non-Custodial/Semi-Custodial Exchange:
Wrong. Fully custodial and centralized instant exchange. If you want, you can add no-account in that explanation. CCECash operates as a platform where users retain control of their assets during transactions (non-custodial), while the exchange may facilitate trades securely without long-term custody of funds.
Are you using AI for your posts or what/who writes these? CCECash and intermediaries have absolute custody and control of the funds. Users have zero control of the funds during the swap process. Decentralization: CCECash is not fully decentralized.
CCECash, like all instant swap platforms, is completely centralized. The point you have been attacking is that the OP said that they are "decentralized and KYC-free". Your judgment is based on subjective judgment only, and there is no objective factual basis at all. You are jumping around here and picking all kinds of faults.
This exchange is centralized and can ask users to undergo KYC if they want to. Read their terms, it's all explained there. It's not based on my judgement. The terms explain how the KYC process works if it comes to that. Before picking all kinds of faults, please come up with real evidence yourself, such as you used this service and found that it was not consistent with their propaganda, so that your statement is more true. Don't attack others based on just a little text information!
My statements are true. I don't need to use the exchange for my statements to be true. I will only use a centralized exchange that I believe I can trust. At this point, CCECash doesn't meet these conditions. If this post is easybit, if they dare to promote their "NO KYC". I will attack them mercilessly like you, because they will conduct KYC verification and have not returned my funds (it has been 7 months). I have all the transaction evidence and screenshots to prove it, instead of attacking here without any basis like you!
If you calmed down and started thinking logically, it would be easier for you to understand what I am talking about. How do you think that easybit took your funds and have been holding them for 7 months? What made that possible? Custody made it possible. When you deposited money into easybit, they gained custody and absolute control of your money. If that wasn't the case, you could have made a transaction any day and moved your coins away from the exchange. But you can't do that, can you? What prevents you from doing it? The answer is again custody. More precisely, the lack of it. You don't hold the keys that would allow you to control your money. easybit does. You are now at their mercy and have to fulfill their requests if you want your money back. Are you starting to understand now? That's why the custodial vs non-custodial argument is important. You can't claim to be non-custodial if you aren't and expect that people won't correct you. It gives the readers a false sense of security and control. Any centralized exchange, be it easybit, FixedFloat, Binance, eXch or CCECash, can at any moment freeze your money. Whether or not they will do that is a different question. But they have the means to do it. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be waiting for 7 months for easybit to release your money, would you?
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Thank you for clarifying the distinction. Here's a concise breakdown of CCECash based on your description:
Non-Custodial/Semi-Custodial Exchange:
Wrong. Fully custodial and centralized instant exchange. If you want, you can add no-account in that explanation. CCECash operates as a platform where users retain control of their assets during transactions (non-custodial), while the exchange may facilitate trades securely without long-term custody of funds.
Are you using AI for your posts or what/who writes these? CCECash and intermediaries have absolute custody and control of the funds. Users have zero control of the funds during the swap process. Decentralization: CCECash is not fully decentralized.
CCECash, like all instant swap platforms, is completely centralized. The point you have been attacking is that the OP said that they are "decentralized and KYC-free". Your judgment is based on subjective judgment only, and there is no objective factual basis at all. You are jumping around here and picking all kinds of faults.
This exchange is centralized and can ask users to undergo KYC if they want to. Read their terms, it's all explained there. It's not based on my judgement. The terms explain how the KYC process works if it comes to that. Before picking all kinds of faults, please come up with real evidence yourself, such as you used this service and found that it was not consistent with their propaganda, so that your statement is more true. Don't attack others based on just a little text information!
My statements are true. I don't need to use the exchange for my statements to be true. I will only use a centralized exchange that I believe I can trust. At this point, CCECash doesn't meet these conditions. If this post is easybit, if they dare to promote their "NO KYC". I will attack them mercilessly like you, because they will conduct KYC verification and have not returned my funds (it has been 7 months). I have all the transaction evidence and screenshots to prove it, instead of attacking here without any basis like you!
If you calmed down and started thinking logically, it would be easier for you to understand what I am talking about. How do you think that easybit took your funds and have been holding them for 7 months? What made that possible? Custody made it possible. When you deposited money into easybit, they gained custody and absolute control of your money. If that wasn't the case, you could have made a transaction any day and moved your coins away from the exchange. But you can't do that, can you? What prevents you from doing it? The answer is again custody. More precisely, the lack of it. You don't hold the keys that would allow you to control your money. easybit does. You are now at their mercy and have to fulfill their requests if you want your money back. Are you starting to understand now? That's why the custodial vs non-custodial argument is important. You can't claim to be non-custodial if you aren't and expect that people won't correct you. It gives the readers a false sense of security and control. Any centralized exchange, be it easybit, FixedFloat, Binance, eXch or CCECash, can at any moment freeze your money. Whether or not they will do that is a different question. But they have the means to do it. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be waiting for 7 months for easybit to release your money, would you? The main reason I argued with you is that you are too pretentious, and you still speak in a pretentious tone until now. Isn't it clear to everyone what you said about "decentralization, NO KYC"? You have to jump out and point it out, treating everyone as idiots, and you are the only smart one?
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However this is No Account exchange.
It is a no account exchange and that's fine. That's the standard way that instant exchanges operate. What I don't think is fine is claiming to be non-custodial and decentralized. CCE.Cash still claims that and it's written in their correspondence here with the community. The difference between CCECash (semi-custodial exchange) and non-custodial wallets lies in their core functionality, custody model, and user control.
CCECash focuses on cryptocurrency exchange services for asset exchange/trading (e.g. BTC to ETH). Acts as an intermediary to facilitate transactions, but temporarily holds user funds during the transaction. Users must send cryptocurrency to a CCECash address to initiate the exchange. During the processing, CCECash controls the funds. Users rely on CCECash to complete the transaction.
CCECash:..Suitable for users who prioritize speed rather than full self-custody.
CCECash is a temporary custodian for swaps and is more suitable for fast transactions.
Can we stop beating around the bush please and call things the way they are. You went from claiming you are non custodial to calling yourself semi-custodial, and a temporary user-funds-holder. You are custodial. That's it. You and your intermediaries have custody of the coins until they get deposited into user wallets. The users don't have control of their money until the exchange is over. That's how a custodial service operates. It's based on trust. Trust that the custodian will do the right thing and exchange the funds and give up custody of them. I see no problem in an exchange being custodial as long as they are honest about it. You haven't been honest. You are neither decentralized nor non custodial and the question is how long are you going to claim that you are? You are new on the forum. Be honest with your potential customers to be able to build trust. Personally, I would never try a service that isn't telling me the truth. Everyone else can make up their own minds. Additionally, if you were non custodial, you and your intermediaries wouldn't be able to freeze coins and request KYC. Your users could simply import their keys into a real non custodial wallet and forget about you and the KYC requirements. But they can't do that because they don't have custody of the coins. You have. Thank you for your feedback. At CCECash, we value our users’ opinions and are committed to continuous improvement. To ensure clarity, We recognize that there are misunderstandings and it is our responsibility to ensure that the responsibilities of our platform are communicated transparently. Going forward, we will: Improve clarity in communication to avoid misunderstandings. Resolve technical or operational issues promptly to enhance user trust. Open to criticism and prioritize user concerns during development. Your support has motivated us to make CCECash a safe and reliable platform for all users. Please continue to share your insights - we are listening, learning, and growing. Sincerely, The CCECash Team OPERATING AROUND THE CLOCK Contact Us: Official Email: support@cce.cashOfficial Website: https://cce.cash/exchange
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