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September 19, 2025, 11:00:45 AM
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Of course there would be wealthy, in fact they are many wealthy people out there that have never invest in their life before. But they have become wealthy through their profession and they are paying them huge amount of money, if am not mistaking almost the wealthy people doesn't start from investment, it is through their monthly salaries that they take and start their investment. So whether investment or not wealthy people would surely be around.

Some people that are wealthy today didn't get the wealth out of no where, it was from a generational wealth, money from their great grand parents. Some people are so blessed that even after they leave this earth surface, their children or should I say their bloodline is going to continue to enjoy the wealth they have created and if manage well, more of their generation is going to maintain that wealth for a very long period of time.

We shouldn't forget that there are some wealth that are gotten from illegal means, some people make money from crimes and are pass down to their children, that's how some people became wealthy through crimes.

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September 19, 2025, 11:39:38 AM
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment Because you can be rich through the skill learnt, when a father is also spending money on his children through education it is also an investment after the education a good job can come from it the father will benefit so the way of success is through investment having it multiple we invest to earn so without investment it will won't be easy to become wealthy unless you are into money rituals of s thing.

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September 19, 2025, 11:59:46 AM
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No, investment is what make people wealthy. For all the wealthy people in the world got their assets that made them wealthy through investment, because they spend money on particular projets that makes them to become what the world is celebrating today.

You can be sponsoring yourself to school to become responsible person in the future which is investment, because you are investing money on that learning that will make you to achieve Master degree hodler or PHD hodler, many companies will be running after to employ you to achieve their goal, and it will increase you financially to become wealthy man or woman. Even farmers are investors and some are wealthy while some are not poor, because they keep spending money on farm crops to grow some crops that will make them wealthy.


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September 19, 2025, 01:25:30 PM
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No one can become rich without investing, and it can be said that investing is the only path to success and wealth. But the difference lies in those who get rich from business, from their ideas and creativity, from their hard work and effort. They do not invest in assets like gold, bitcoin, stocks and we usually call it financial investment. Instead, they invest in knowledge, intelligence and people, and this is also a form of investment commonly referred to as human capital investment.

It can be said that financial investment is just one of many ways to become rich, it is not the only way but investment is the only way to lead to wealth and success.


I would say that investment is the fastest way to become it's not really the only way perse, there are other ways people acquire wealth but getting rich through these other means can be very slow. For example let's take someone that works in an oil company, the pay is good but when you can really say that the person becomes wealthy it's actually going to take that person a lot of time compared to someone that invests

But to get a good position and salary, they need knowledge, qualifications as well as what they can contribute to the company in return for that good treatment. To gain the knowledge and qualifications to meet the company's standards and requirements, they need to invest in education, time, and people (themselves). And like I said, those things are also a form of investment. They used their money and time to buy knowledge, skills and experience, they couldn't have had those things without investment.

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September 19, 2025, 01:32:43 PM
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment Because you can be rich through the skill learnt, when a father is also spending money on his children through education it is also an investment after the education a good job can come from it the father will benefit so the way of success is through investment having it multiple we invest to earn so without investment it will won't be easy to become wealthy unless you are into money rituals of s thing.

Self investment is different from an actual investment. Learning a skill can be considered to be a form of self investment. When you get the skill done, it is also better you invest more into yourself first before another investment. There is always a time for everyone, when you dont invest in yourself, you wont grow and get the kind of money that is needed to invest in other things. You must be financially stable if you want to invest in either Bitcoin, stock market or real estate. One thing you should also know is, all the investment takes some period to yield result. It is not an immediate result thing.

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September 19, 2025, 07:13:43 PM
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Those are two different things in my opinion, business must be done to get money or profit while investment is done after we get money, the point is we have to work first to get money and then start investing to achieve wealth because it is impossible for us to invest without capital and whether someone is rich or not in investing also I think depends on the capital they have (besides knowledge about investment).
This isn't a discussion of the differences between the two in terms of implementation, but rather on the application patterns that each person can utilize. Not everyone may succeed in business, but on the contrary, they may succeed in investing. Most importantly, it's how someone is able to identify opportunities based on their skills. While it's generally true that people tend to start a business first before investing, some people dive straight into investing and able to achieve success. The current generation may be an example, as they prefer to take investment opportunities with relatively small capital, and if they do it consistently, they can achieve success although not as fast as people who have more money..
Money investment is not necessary for every business because that is modern time and people are earning money with their skills. They are not investing the money but they invested the precious time on that . More people are educated in our society and they are teaching the skills in their area in which they are living. People are happy with the present condition because they are playing safe but many people are Investing the money on businesses which are giving the money in returns .In the past , people thought that no one could be rich without investment but in that time, that is different and people are earning in dollars by sitting in their home.

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September 19, 2025, 10:50:17 PM
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment Because you can be rich through the skill learnt, when a father is also spending money on his children through education it is also an investment after the education a good job can come from it the father will benefit so the way of success is through investment having it multiple we invest to earn so without investment it will won't be easy to become wealthy unless you are into money rituals of s thing.

Self investment is different from an actual investment. Learning a skill can be considered to be a form of self investment. When you get the skill done, it is also better you invest more into yourself first before another investment. There is always a time for everyone, when you dont invest in yourself, you wont grow and get the kind of money that is needed to invest in other things. You must be financially stable if you want to invest in either Bitcoin, stock market or real estate. One thing you should also know is, all the investment takes some period to yield result. It is not an immediate result thing.
Skills is the first investment anyone can build for the long term gains that comes from it, alot of time we have seen people who go broke again after having so much money but failed to invest in building knowledge and skills that sustain them at the top and so they hard to drop down, before the wealth will stay, knowledge is the foundation for that, so we can say that all of them will definitely combine to make someone successful.

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September 19, 2025, 11:04:08 PM
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I wouldn't want to create a very lengthy topic to post as I don't see any reason for doing so..
So I was thinking something tonight that everyone or anyone who succeeded or becoming wealthy today do they really succeed through investments?

If yes, then how many people around you becoming wealthy through investments?

In my opinion, the majority of people who were successful today started from personal skill or self development, after which before they started investments.

What Is your thoughts over this?
People rarely become rich from investment, but those who have been able to develop their skills and self-development have become rich at some point. For example, I will give an example, if a person can get a good education and find a good job, then that person will gradually become rich and here the most important role behind his wealth will be played by his education and skills.

A person may not have money to invest in the first place, if he does not have money, then he will not be able to invest and he will not be able to become rich from investment, but if a person does not have money, if he studies with a lot of effort and can get a good job, then he will definitely be rich someday. Therefore, to become rich, self-development and skills and good education are needed. It is not possible for everyone to become rich from investment and it definitely takes luck to become rich from investment.

I have not seen anyone around me who has become rich through investing, but I have seen many people around me who have become rich through skills and self-development.

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September 19, 2025, 11:41:24 PM
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Self investment is different from an actual investment. Learning a skill can be considered to be a form of self investment. When you get the skill done, it is also better you invest more into yourself first before another investment. There is always a time for everyone, when you dont invest in yourself, you wont grow and get the kind of money that is needed to invest in other things. You must be financially stable if you want to invest in either Bitcoin, stock market or real estate. One thing you should also know is, all the investment takes some period to yield result. It is not an immediate result thing.

While I might agree to your concept of having to outline clear difference between one having to invest in themselves as per building a skill to be distinct from investing in commodities, stocks, buying bonds and more, I don’t quite agree that one needs to be exactly stable as per finances before they take up investment opportunities.

Investments is what brings about these at abilities and should you be stable before taking up investments, you might find it to be of little importance.

This is why, investments is not capped at any value but most times, you base it on what you can afford. Stability could come in no clear terms and that could limit investments.

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September 19, 2025, 11:51:02 PM
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment Because you can be rich through the skill learnt, when a father is also spending money on his children through education it is also an investment after the education a good job can come from it the father will benefit so the way of success is through investment having it multiple we invest to earn so without investment it will won't be easy to become wealthy unless you are into money rituals of s thing.
Without investment in the capitalist economic system, you can't never talk about capitalism or social classes where we find poor and rich people. The only model without investment is communism as we saw with the soviet unions. It was the state controlled by one party is the only entity allowed to make investments and divide the wealth between citizens. Yes it was proven to be utopian dream because we saw members of the communist party enjoying luxury life while people suffer to death from deseases and starvation (see the example in China with Mao). Other than that, only primitive tribes whose economic is based on hunting and collecting fruits have no need to onvest in new activities since everybody in the community can easily get satisfied food and safety.



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While I might agree to your concept of having to outline clear difference between one having to invest in themselves as per building a skill to be distinct from investing in commodities, stocks, buying bonds and more, I don’t quite agree that one needs to be exactly stable as per finances before they take up investment opportunities.

Investments is what brings about these at abilities and should you be stable before taking up investments, you might find it to be of little importance.

This is why, investments is not capped at any value but most times, you base it on what you can afford. Stability could come in no clear terms and that could limit investments.
I think you make a good point. Investments in yourself such as learning a new skill, sharpening knowledge can be the most impactful in the long term since it makes you more capable of earning and making more profitable financial decisions. Simultaneously, having financial security as a precondition of investment can keep you at the same time. Even the minor, manageable investments may be a lesson and generate opportunities in the course of time. The trick here is that you have to make sure that you know your limits and balance risk, so you develop as a person and as a company, without becoming the victim of overstretching.
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment.
Certainly, investment is not just about bitcoin, self investment is the greatest form of investment which can also in the long run help you invest invest into bitcoin when the returns that comes from self investment starts to reflect on the asset you're holding. It's still part of the things that comes with doing proper planning as an investor such that you're not just neglecting yourself at the expense of your bitcoin investment.

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Some people that are wealthy today didn't get the wealth out of no where, it was from a generational wealth, money from their great grand parents.
There is no denying that some people are rich through inheritance. But not everyone will get that opportunity. Those who are deprived of that opportunity will definitely have to become rich through hard work and investment. But what I understand is that being poor is not a bad thing. But if someone does not change their condition even after being poor, they are basically poor.

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I believe wealth doesn’t come from investments only but investment will help keep you still wealthy for a long time. you might gain wealth from where you work but it is advisable to also invest because that job might not be there forever and you will always have a backup which are your investments that will still keep you doing very well. You can hardly see a rich man without any good investment because those investments even get you more money.
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I believe wealth doesn’t come from investments only but investment will help keep you still wealthy for a long time. you might gain wealth from where you work but it is advisable to also invest because that job might not be there forever and you will always have a backup which are your investments that will still keep you doing very well.

Working through job you are being employed on isn't what everybody does for a living because while others are employed there are also people who have seen that if they depend on the society they might not do or achieve anything on there youthful age so they decided to go into investment and now alot of people who has never worked for anybody through employment are now a very wealthy person because of how flourish there business has been so actually you shouldn't think that investment cannot make you a wealthy person because on the contrary that's what can even make you that, instead of the job you are thinking.

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Working through job you are being employed on isn't what everybody does for a living because while others are employed there are also people who have seen that if they depend on the society they might not do or achieve anything on there youthful age so they decided to go into investment and now alot of people who has never worked for anybody through employment are now a very wealthy person because of how flourish there business has been so actually you shouldn't think that investment cannot make you a wealthy person because on the contrary that's what can even make you that, instead of the job you are thinking.

As I understand it, he means that investing is one of many ways to get rich, not the only way, and I agree with his statement.
There are many ways to become rich and we have many billionaires and millionaires in the world who were rich before they started investing. For example, Gate became rich by founding Microsoft, or Elon with Tesla and SpaceX. They are all people who were already rich through talent, knowledge and intelligence before investing in stocks, real estate or bitcoin.

But it must be admitted that investment is a trend and the top choice of young people to get rich today. Especially the crypto market, as most of them want to get rich quick.

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I believe wealth doesn’t come from investments only but investment will help keep you still wealthy for a long time. you might gain wealth from where you work but it is advisable to also invest because that job might not be there forever and you will always have a backup which are your investments that will still keep you doing very well.

Working through job you are being employed on isn't what everybody does for a living because while others are employed there are also people who have seen that if they depend on the society they might not do or achieve anything on there youthful age so they decided to go into investment and now alot of people who has never worked for anybody through employment are now a very wealthy person because of how flourish there business has been so actually you shouldn't think that investment cannot make you a wealthy person because on the contrary that's what can even make you that, instead of the job you are thinking.
I understand you very well, but I never said investment can’t make you wealthy neither did I say everyone must work to become wealthy, definitely not everyone likes to work under someone. There are still some persons that are doing very well from the job they do because they get paid high income, I’m only saying even if you’re doing well from that job, is also advisable to invest because the job might be no more and you will always have investments to fall back to which will generate more money for you.
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You can't just be wealthy without doing something i believe you must start from some where, learning of skill is still part of the investment it can be called self investment.
Certainly, investment is not just about bitcoin, self investment is the greatest form of investment which can also in the long run help you invest invest into bitcoin when the returns that comes from self investment starts to reflect on the asset you're holding. It's still part of the things that comes with doing proper planning as an investor such that you're not just neglecting yourself at the expense of your bitcoin investment.

Wealth creation comes in different form ranging from normal bitcoin investment, investing in oneself, investing in an asset around you that can yield returns.
Self investment without monetization is like wasted efforts. Unlike real time investment whose dividend manifests over a period of time, for self investment the process doesn't stop at acquiring skills,  the true value shows when those skills are translated into income or opportunities.

It is just like planting a seed; learning is like planting a seed while consistency, networking and showcasing those skills is like watering it then the fruit which is expected from all the efforts and time should be the financial rewards.

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September 22, 2025, 01:02:52 PM
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Of course there would be wealthy, in fact they are many wealthy people out there that have never invest in their life before. But they have become wealthy through their profession and they are paying them huge amount of money, if am not mistaking almost the wealthy people doesn't start from investment, it is through their monthly salaries that they take and start their investment. So whether investment or not wealthy people would surely be around.
That's true. There are certainly people who can achieve a comfortable level of wealth without investing, but rather by finding their own path, whether it's working as an employee or running their own business, which requires hard work. In my community, there are quite a few people who have become wealthy through their businesses, all through hard work. There are also those who have become wealthy through investments, but these are fewer in number.
I believe that everyone has their own path to success and wealth.

Running your own business is an investment. How do you start a business? You need capital to start it up and you expect to make profit after a while. I would even call this the surest form of investment you are making. Like you said, everyone has their path to success, some might be successful through becoming business owners and others might be become successful by working as employees

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September 22, 2025, 01:06:02 PM
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I believe wealth doesn’t come from investments only but investment will help keep you still wealthy for a long time. you might gain wealth from where you work but it is advisable to also invest because that job might not be there forever and you will always have a backup which are your investments that will still keep you doing very well. You can hardly see a rich man without any good investment because those investments even get you more money.

Yes, wealth can come from several sources. But I don't think you can get wealthy through your income from just your profession alone. Investments can help with that. With just the income from your job, you'll have to settle bills, which depending on your marital status, can be large enough to eat a major chunk of your income.
You noted that you hardly see a rich person without having an investment somewhere. That's simply to show just how investments are vital in creating and maintaining wealth. Relying on just your income from your job would not get you wealthy.

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