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January 21, 2026, 04:30:09 PM
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Those who want to escape poverty need to work harder, put in more effort than the average person, and have a smart strategy. Relying solely on Bitcoin to escape poverty is very difficult, because Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme.
If a poor man has his discretionary income to be as little as $10, he can start his bitcoin investment with DCA  at least it's better than nothing provided he is a long-term investor and will continue buying weekly overtime. I believe in ten years time his financial status will upgrade and will be better than someone who was in the same financial state with him years ago without investing into bitcoin.

However, the investor can work on improving his discretionary income after he has been motivated with the price movement of bitcoin and feel he needs to buy more above $10. He can learn an additional skill or get a second job so that he can earn more and increase the money that he's using to DCA since his discretionary income will increase after he gets a second means of income.
I also think that it is better to have something than nothing at all. When I was a child, I used to read a rhyme that says that the ark is made from a drop. Those who can consistently invest in Bitcoin with $10, then we should appreciate their efforts because they have done their best.
Such investors, if they get a little inspiration and encouragement, will do their best and later they will try how to earn more money and how to consistently buy Bitcoin with more money and hold it for a long time. What I like most is that it is discussed here that investing in Bitcoin is not a shortcut method but rather a matter of hard work, patience and expectation. 

We cannot think simply at the beginning, that is, if others find out about those who are investing with this minimum amount, a class of people will criticize them, and those who start investing with a small amount of money also think that this is what will happen to them with this investment, but if they think about these things in the long term, that is, eight years, nine years, or 10 years, then the total investment amount is relatively much higher.

Now many will say that the total investment amount is less in such a long period of time, but I will tell them that if they do not invest this money with hard work, they will never be able to accumulate this money, rather they will spend this money for various needs or temporary entertainment. It is better to invest in Bitcoin consistently.

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January 21, 2026, 04:34:30 PM
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You have provided good advice. If one does not have the means of earning one can source wisely. Having a stable income at the beginning of the investment is not important for Bitcoin investment. There are many poor people like me who are trying to learn about Bitcoin and trying to deposit small amounts and the source of income is still not fixed. The amount of weekly DCA can be of any size to start investing with. Investing in bitcoins with discretionary income will give you the courage and confidence to invest for the long term even if you don't have a stable income.
In as mvch as stable income is not needed to start investing,  you can always  accommodate the act of creating other sources of income as.much as you can. Tell yourself the truth, if you rely on just a source of income that is not fixed for long, you may lack the consistency to carry on in bitcoin investment.

Utilize your time and part of your money to venture into learning a skill, doing a business, anything that is legit than can put money into your hand. You can always allocate part of the money that is made from diversifying back to bitcoin, it is all about using your common sense though.

Proper risk management and management of funds at hand.. Without these two, going forward is pointless.

You can't have results without funds and without knowing what you are doing.

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January 21, 2026, 04:50:39 PM
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Just the technology itself should prove very challenging to most nerds who are not going to be satisfied with a superficial illusion of understanding the technology. In the sense Bitcoin provides an unlimited learning opportunity, and even the academic world is yet to fully catch up. A lot of the work about Bitcoin if it exists at all is just looking at it through the same lenses and the same assumptions.

There is a lot of good information about bitcoin through writings and podcasts and even videos.  There is also mediocre work, so sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish the good work from the mediocre work, including for people to engage in critical thinking in regards to information that they read or watch.

Some people don't even like to read anything, so they just watch videos, which might end up leading them into shitcoins (or trading bitcoin) rather than investing into bitcoin.
Having a wealth of knowledge will also amount to increasing your chance of a successful bitcoin investment. A bitcoin person must have a reading culture if they must  learn and be confident to question some informations after a critical examination of how it does not align with the digital asset. An intellectually lazy person is whom accepts all the informations that come his way cause he is too lazy to make his research and verify.

Expanding on what I said, I personally know a few examples of people who invested completely meaningless amounts of money and got spooked on the first strong dip. In this case it would have been much worse if they had invested significant amounts of money, but luckily they didn't. Still such people present rather difficult examples to turn into investors of any kind. I don't think age plays a role much either, some were older and some were even in their 20s.

Ultimately bitcoin continues to have low level retail adoption, even though there are more and more talking points from institutions and even guys like Saylor (even though in recent times, Saylor seems to have been losing some credibility even though he has a lot of decently good historical presentations).

Normies have to figure out bitcoin, and it might take more than one generation, even though guys who already know about bitcoin consider it to be growing fast, we still likely have less than 1% world wide adoption of the population, and even those who own some, might not own as much as they should own or could own..
What may be setting off such low level retail adoption gradually revolves from the growing bitcoin price that have climbed high in price and looking so expensive to buy presently when it is judged by former price in the early days when retailers found it cheaply affordable for the quantity they were able to buy then. Presently it has been more of an open field for institutional investors cause the price of bitcoin is still affordable for institutions. It still not an excuse to steer to shitcoins for their cheapness.

Though is not compulsory that a bitcoin investor/adopter must have to purchase a whole bitcoin before he can begin/continue to accumulation in the way the institutions are doing. Retail adopters can purchase with the amount they have to afford according to their income. With constant purchasing in a 4-8 years it will amaze them how much bitcoin they are able to stack with that amount that was initially taken to be small to begin with.

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January 21, 2026, 06:24:26 PM
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I guess that is just the inevitable consequence of it, since we are on adoption, governments and countries are starting to get interested with that we expect a lot of restrictions on it soon.

Almost all of the investors are probably thinking are just in it for profit, they dont really care about it whatsoever. I mean, in my opinion, that's okay since Bitcoin really is a good investment and one of the reason it get popular is because of that. We are just forgetting the norms of Bitcoin, it compromised its structure, and we are already forgetting where it came from, like it is privacy, it is decentralization etc. But as we continue to adopt on it's technology, we are getting forced into using centralized platforms, doing KYC etc, bunch of regulations, taxes, etc.

Adoptation is surely a good thing, but I guess it is just the price that we need to pay when we continue to adopt, For me this is just things that we need to adopt as well, this are just things that we dont have control, as long as there are tools that we can use still existed we can still protect ourselfs as long as we know what we are doing.

 
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January 21, 2026, 10:35:06 PM
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I do not think there's any poor man that wants to remain poor, as humans we hope for the best everyday, so it means the poor can actually become average tomorrow, middle class next tomorrow, very rich upper next, if all these can happen, I do not think that the poor or anyone has any excuse to give why they can not invest in Bitcoin, what everyone need is to start first, then hustle for more legit way of making money to enable them increase their discretionary income, investor that got a dream to actualize, do not get workout about bitcoin, his major focus will be targeted on fulfilling his dreams.

To be honest, some people really want to remain poor cause they barely make efforts to change their state or desist from doing the wrong things in the name fighting poverty, someone can't be wanting to get out of a poor state and still missing good opportunities because they're skeptical about it, or doing the wrong things like trading spot and futures with Bitcoin or feel relaxed to get a job.
 People should be happy that Bitcoin has given everyone the opportunity that could lead to financial freedom and the best they can do for themselves is to get a job, learn the basics and start investing, well Bitcoin investment is a choice and only the wise ones would grab the opportunity especially now that it's still early.

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January 22, 2026, 07:55:27 PM
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It comes off as misleading and potentially even deceptive to repeatedly refer to bitcoin as digital gold.

sure there are various aspects of bitcoin that were modeled after gold, yet bitcoin is different than gold, and sure maybe once in a while it is o.k to say it, but it is probably better to just use the word bitcoin unless you have some specific point about digital gold and/or digital currency that you are wanting to make.  Bitcoin does have a variety of attributes that include digital gold, digital currency  and even the existence of various derivative products that likely cause paper bitcoin and/or more claims upon bitcoin than the quantity of bitcoin.
Maybe we could state instead that it has features of both gold and cash, so it is kind of acting as a mix between digital gold and digital cash in terms of functionality and features? I agree it is better to refer to it as Bitcoin unless we are talking about specific features and characteristics. Some people may not spend a lot of time researching the things and may take away something wrong if we keep referring to it as digital gold or something without providing more information.

Unfortunately my observation is that most adults are not learning almost anything at all in their lives.
Even if there might be some truth in your observation, it is a bit patronizing.
It is unfortunate but I don't know any better way to state it that makes it less patronizing. These are my observations based on people that I know more closely and people that I have met throughout the years. A small percentage continues to learn new and interesting stuff. Even with working out, I would say that about 1/3 of adults do it and that the percentage continues to decline with age. Both exercise and learning are essential for overall health. Actual observations may depend on your circles, if you are friends with a big group obviously the numbers will be biased towards this view. I believe these habits or decisions to not learn actively are making it hard to introduce Bitcoin to some people. Bitcoin is very complex and very simple as the same time in a way. Someone who does not regularly learn new things may struggle dealing with the necessary learning of various concepts that relate to Bitcoin depending on the background of the person.

There are likely also a lot of ways that people are challenged in their work, so by the time they have free time, they get a bit lazy and/or run out f energy.
Good point. I think this one can get overlooked by us who do not have this problem, who love or work or work in some great company even if we may not be in love with the particular work because this makes a huge difference. Still if this is the case people should find methods and practices that strengthens their mental resilience and increases their energy. I understand that for example after a hard day at working cooking a good meal can be hard, but there is an underestimated difference in how we feel when we eat healthy food and when we eat junk food or bad food. It could be a vicious cycle, challenging work leads to eating worse food or not engaging in healthy behaviors because one is drained, which makes the work even more challenging and this just goes on.

There is a lot of good information about bitcoin through writings and podcasts and even videos.  There is also mediocre work, so sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish the good work from the mediocre work, including for people to engage in critical thinking in regards to information that they read or watch.

Some people don't even like to read anything, so they just watch videos, which might end up leading them into shitcoins (or trading bitcoin) rather than investing into bitcoin.
There is and you are right not everyone likes to read stuff, but I agree that videos are more dangerous. From what I can tell how the YouTube algorithm works these days, unless you go into really smart and educational Bitcoin content it will quickly take you to influencers who are promoting all kinds of shitcoin scams. Reading a book like Mastering Bitcoin seems much safer.

Ultimately bitcoin continues to have low level retail adoption, even though there are more and more talking points from institutions and even guys like Saylor (even though in recent times, Saylor seems to have been losing some credibility even though he has a lot of decently good historical presentations).
Why do you think that Saylor seems to be losing some credibility in recent times?

Normies have to figure out bitcoin, and it might take more than one generation, even though guys who already know about bitcoin consider it to be growing fast, we still likely have less than 1% world wide adoption of the population, and even those who own some, might not own as much as they should own or could own..
I think normies have it hard in the modern world. There is a lot of things to be distracted with, there are issues with dopamine addiction, and the economic situation is not that good either. Also Bitcoin is a bit abstract, so that makes it even more harder. It is easier to get someone interested in something that they can touch with their hands and experience directly, something like a robot vacuum or VR headset. We have to find ways to get around these challenges.
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January 22, 2026, 11:23:49 PM
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I do not think there's any poor man that wants to remain poor, as humans we hope for the best everyday, so it means the poor can actually become average tomorrow, middle class next tomorrow, very rich upper next, if all these can happen, I do not think that the poor or anyone has any excuse to give why they can not invest in Bitcoin, what everyone need is to start first, then hustle for more legit way of making money to enable them increase their discretionary income, investor that got a dream to actualize, do not get workout about bitcoin, his major focus will be targeted on fulfilling his dreams.

To be honest, some people really want to remain poor cause they barely make efforts to change their state or desist from doing the wrong things in the name fighting poverty, someone can't be wanting to get out of a poor state and still missing good opportunities because they're skeptical about it, or doing the wrong things like trading spot and futures with Bitcoin or feel relaxed to get a job.
 People should be happy that Bitcoin has given everyone the opportunity that could lead to financial freedom and the best they can do for themselves is to get a job, learn the basics and start investing, well Bitcoin investment is a choice and only the wise ones would grab the opportunity especially now that it's still early.
People actually want to be free from poverty but they do not really understand or try to understand where and how to invest so that they can gradually free themselves from this situation. Those who doubted Bitcoin in the past have been proven completely wrong today, There is no doubt that those who doubt Bitcoin today or in the future will gradually be proven wrong. People are greedy, they actually want a very quick solution which is never possible. Bitcoin is the future wealth those who believe in this, will buy Bitcoin with their confidence according to the right rules and hold it for the long term, they can achieve success in the future.

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I do not think there's any poor man that wants to remain poor, as humans we hope for the best everyday, so it means the poor can actually become average tomorrow, middle class next tomorrow, very rich upper next, if all these can happen, I do not think that the poor or anyone has any excuse to give why they can not invest in Bitcoin, what everyone need is to start first, then hustle for more legit way of making money to enable them increase their discretionary income, investor that got a dream to actualize, do not get workout about bitcoin, his major focus will be targeted on fulfilling his dreams.

To be honest, some people really want to remain poor cause they barely make efforts to change their state or desist from doing the wrong things in the name fighting poverty, someone can't be wanting to get out of a poor state and still missing good opportunities because they're skeptical about it, or doing the wrong things like trading spot and futures with Bitcoin or feel relaxed to get a job.
 People should be happy that Bitcoin has given everyone the opportunity that could lead to financial freedom and the best they can do for themselves is to get a job, learn the basics and start investing, well Bitcoin investment is a choice and only the wise ones would grab the opportunity especially now that it's still early.
People actually want to be free from poverty but they do not really understand or try to understand where and how to invest so that they can gradually free themselves from this situation. Those who doubted Bitcoin in the past have been proven completely wrong today, There is no doubt that those who doubt Bitcoin today or in the future will gradually be proven wrong. People are greedy, they actually want a very quick solution which is never possible. Bitcoin is the future wealth those who believe in this, will buy Bitcoin with their confidence according to the right rules and hold it for the long term, they can achieve success in the future.

True, but sometimes it's not really about understanding what to do, yes there are people who actually don't understand how to invest in Bitcoin but are willing to know but there are some who do but actually want it the easy way and end up making the wrong choice. There's no easier way of investing in Bitcoin than buying and holding for long-term after understanding the basic but you'll see some people going into Bitcoin for short-term goals, knowing fully well that it's a long-term investment option.
 You'll be shocked to know that there are people who were skeptical about it in the past and missed buying it when it was cheaper but they embraced it, learn the basics and decided to wait for the dip before buying so they take profits when the market recovers, someone who's given the opportunity of building their portfolio consistenty especially since Bitcoin is still in it's early stage. The thing is that some people just can't be patient yet they want better profits from Bitcoin investment, it doesn't work that way because buying consistently and holding for long-term should be the goal and patience is very important as wel.

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I guess that is just the inevitable consequence of it, since we are on adoption, governments and countries are starting to get interested with that we expect a lot of restrictions on it soon.

Almost all of the investors are probably thinking are just in it for profit, they dont really care about it whatsoever. I mean, in my opinion, that's okay since Bitcoin really is a good investment and one of the reason it get popular is because of that. We are just forgetting the norms of Bitcoin, it compromised its structure, and we are already forgetting where it came from, like it is privacy, it is decentralization etc. But as we continue to adopt on it's technology, we are getting forced into using centralized platforms, doing KYC etc, bunch of regulations, taxes, etc.

Adoptation is surely a good thing, but I guess it is just the price that we need to pay when we continue to adopt, For me this is just things that we need to adopt as well, this are just things that we dont have control, as long as there are tools that we can use still existed we can still protect ourselfs as long as we know what we are doing.

With KYC all over the place, we can only expect the worse in the long term. Bitcoin is slowly moving away from its intended purpose. Nowadays, it's all about greed and profit. With "Wall Street" in the game, it's game over for good. Satoshi created Bitcoin to be independent from the traditional financial system. Integrating Bitcoin into centralized finance will bring back banks' failures.

What use would it be for the core Bitcoin blockchain to remain decentralized, if most (if not all) of the coins in circulation are in the hands of powerful entities (banks, companies, governments, etc)? You won't be able to buy/sell unless you comply with KYC. Of course, you might try to use a DEX or P2P trading platform. But liquidity will be so low, that it won't be worth it. In a decade, a lot of things can happen. Let's just hope things turn out for the better in the long run.

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Just the technology itself should prove very challenging to most nerds who are not going to be satisfied with a superficial illusion of understanding the technology. In the sense Bitcoin provides an unlimited learning opportunity, and even the academic world is yet to fully catch up. A lot of the work about Bitcoin if it exists at all is just looking at it through the same lenses and the same assumptions.
There is a lot of good information about bitcoin through writings and podcasts and even videos.  There is also mediocre work, so sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish the good work from the mediocre work, including for people to engage in critical thinking in regards to information that they read or watch.

Some people don't even like to read anything, so they just watch videos, which might end up leading them into shitcoins (or trading bitcoin) rather than investing into bitcoin.
Having a wealth of knowledge will also amount to increasing your chance of a successful bitcoin investment. A bitcoin person must have a reading culture if they must  learn and be confident to question some informations after a critical examination of how it does not align with the digital asset. An intellectually lazy person is whom accepts all the informations that come his way cause he is too lazy to make his research and verify.

You don't need a wealth of knowledge to get started investing in bitcoin.  All you need is some common sense and discretionary funds, and you can get started investing in bitcoin.

If you have common sense, then you know that you adjust your investment size to your knowledge level and if you don't have a lot of knowledge, then you likely would decide to start out investing with a small amount, and ONLY increase your amount invested (whether weekly or otherwise) as your comfort level increases.

Expanding on what I said, I personally know a few examples of people who invested completely meaningless amounts of money and got spooked on the first strong dip. In this case it would have been much worse if they had invested significant amounts of money, but luckily they didn't. Still such people present rather difficult examples to turn into investors of any kind. I don't think age plays a role much either, some were older and some were even in their 20s.
Ultimately bitcoin continues to have low level retail adoption, even though there are more and more talking points from institutions and even guys like Saylor (even though in recent times, Saylor seems to have been losing some credibility even though he has a lot of decently good historical presentations).

Normies have to figure out bitcoin, and it might take more than one generation, even though guys who already know about bitcoin consider it to be growing fast, we still likely have less than 1% world wide adoption of the population, and even those who own some, might not own as much as they should own or could own..
What may be setting off such low level retail adoption gradually revolves from the growing bitcoin price that have climbed high in price and looking so expensive to buy presently when it is judged by former price in the early days when retailers found it cheaply affordable for the quantity they were able to buy then.

You have been registered here since March 2025 - so merely 10 months.  Are you letting the BTC price and/or bitcoin's historical price affect whether you are buying bitcoin?  

If guys have absolutely no bitcoin, then they are only going to be prepared for up if they buy some bitcoin, so sure, guys can wait for bitcoin price corrections that might not happen, and they will be committing a mistake that has continued to play out with bitcoin, with many normies waiting rather than getting the fuck started, and investing into bitcoin through buying regularly, persistently, ongoingly, consistently and perhaps even aggressively.

It tends to take a long time to build up bitcoin holdings, and waiting around for dips that might not happen seems like a pretty dumb way of approaching bitcoin investing, especially for newbies who either have no coins are low quantities of coins.

Presently it has been more of an open field for institutional investors cause the price of bitcoin is still affordable for institutions. It still not an excuse to steer to shitcoins for their cheapness.

You sound distracted.

The fact that institutions, governments and/or status quo rich folks are recently seeming to buy more bitcoin should give some hints that ongoing buying of bitcoin might be a good idea rather than being worried about whether the BTC price might drop, when it might not.    

Even if newbie bitcoiners might have trouble figuring out ways to establish a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline (and most cases more than 10 years unless you have age and/or health issues that interfere with that), they likely need to get started and to figure out that it is likely that they are investing in bitcoin for 10 years or longer.  But hey whatever, newbies are free to wait and to get distracted by ideas the BTC price might drop, when it might not.

Though is not compulsory that a bitcoin investor/adopter must have to purchase a whole bitcoin before he can begin/continue to accumulation in the way the institutions are doing. Retail adopters can purchase with the amount they have to afford according to their income. With constant purchasing in a 4-8 years it will amaze them how much bitcoin they are able to stack with that amount that was initially taken to be small to begin with.

Good.. at least you have that part figured out.. buy with what you can is the better approach rather than being worried about if others might be missing opportunities.

Part of the issue is that there is quite a bit of asymmetric information, which means that normies generally do not really understand and/or appreciate bitcoin's value proposition, so while there is a certain segment of the status quo rich, institutions and governments sucking up the bitcoin supply and driving up the price, many normies are failing/refusing to get the fuck started in their need to focus on bitcoin accumulation  (for their own good) and not to overdo it.

It comes off as misleading and potentially even deceptive to repeatedly refer to bitcoin as digital gold.

sure there are various aspects of bitcoin that were modeled after gold, yet bitcoin is different than gold, and sure maybe once in a while it is o.k to say it, but it is probably better to just use the word bitcoin unless you have some specific point about digital gold and/or digital currency that you are wanting to make.  Bitcoin does have a variety of attributes that include digital gold, digital currency  and even the existence of various derivative products that likely cause paper bitcoin and/or more claims upon bitcoin than the quantity of bitcoin.
Maybe we could state instead that it has features of both gold and cash, so it is kind of acting as a mix between digital gold and digital cash in terms of functionality and features? I agree it is better to refer to it as Bitcoin unless we are talking about specific features and characteristics. Some people may not spend a lot of time researching the things and may take away something wrong if we keep referring to it as digital gold or something without providing more information.

Surely we might sometimes want to highlight certain attributes, yet it could be problematic to overly lock bitcoin into a category when it likely crosses over some of the traditional categories.

Unfortunately my observation is that most adults are not learning almost anything at all in their lives.
Even if there might be some truth in your observation, it is a bit patronizing.
It is unfortunate but I don't know any better way to state it that makes it less patronizing. These are my observations based on people that I know more closely and people that I have met throughout the years. A small percentage continues to learn new and interesting stuff. Even with working out, I would say that about 1/3 of adults do it and that the percentage continues to decline with age. Both exercise and learning are essential for overall health. Actual observations may depend on your circles, if you are friends with a big group obviously the numbers will be biased towards this view. I believe these habits or decisions to not learn actively are making it hard to introduce Bitcoin to some people. Bitcoin is very complex and very simple as the same time in a way. Someone who does not regularly learn new things may struggle dealing with the necessary learning of various concepts that relate to Bitcoin depending on the background of the person.

For sure, any time we might be talking with a person about a topic, they may or may not be familiar with the topic, and sometimes they even have wrong ideas about the topic.

Sometimes we might spend several hours talking with a person on a topic, and we might even start to conclude that they are becoming familiar with the topic, yet sometimes it can take several touches with a topic, and surely the person has to show interest in the topic, and merely because we might be familiar or interested in a topic would not necessarily mean that we would be able to get another person interested or even curious in regards to the same topic.

There are likely also a lot of ways that people are challenged in their work, so by the time they have free time, they get a bit lazy and/or run out f energy.
Good point. I think this one can get overlooked by us who do not have this problem, who love or work or work in some great company even if we may not be in love with the particular work because this makes a huge difference. Still if this is the case people should find methods and practices that strengthens their mental resilience and increases their energy.

Sure we can always point out people who are not working too hard to learn things and who seem mentally lazy, yet even guys who ongoingly engaged in self-improvement and/or engaging themselves in intellectually rigorous work, there are only so many hours in a day, which is likely part of the explanation regarding why so many normies end up feeling like they have to specialize and there are not too many Jacks of All trades (might they be referred to as poly maths?)  

I understand that for example after a hard day at working cooking a good meal can be hard,

And even folks who likely realize it is better to know the ingredients of what we eat, younger people can tolerate bad food a bit better than older people, and so sometimes younger people might not even realize that the food they are eating is causing a lot of negative health consequences until they are a bit older, and then they end up suffering from some kind of a health event that then stimulates them into learning about nutrition - including having to come to their own conclusions (which might differ from what they thought previously) regarding the role of nutrition, sleep and exercise.

but there is an underestimated difference in how we feel when we eat healthy food and when we eat junk food or bad food.

We might not realize those matters until we are in our 40s or even later.  Sure some folks figure it out early, yet sometimes when they are eating some items out of a box and the box says "heart healthy" they might not realize that they are being lied to, including not knowing that natural foods are good for you including eggs and animal fats as compared with industrial oils and the body of young people might be able to  tolerate including athletes might not realize either, since they are otherwise strong, relatively speaking.

It could be a vicious cycle, challenging work leads to eating worse food or not engaging in healthy behaviors because one is drained, which makes the work even more challenging and this just goes on.

And there can be genetic aberrations too.. .. so that some folks might tolerate abuse of their body much more than others.

I recall that I had some periods in which I would go out  on a Friday and/or Saturday night (and even other days of the week), and then I would get just a few hours sleep and then go train for a marathon (running), and there were several groups, the faster ones left earlier (like 7am or maybe before that) and the slower groups started later, maybe after 7:30am), so we generally would know the route and the distance for that week, so I would purposefully show up when most of the groups had already departed so that I could challenge myself to see how many of the faster groups I could catch up to and pass up.. and it was a bit of my own challenge, so that if we had a training run that was close to 20 miles, sometimes I would end up catching up to some of the fastest groups, but then I would feel better than them (psychologically) because I had started out 30-40 minutes later and still caught up to them.  hahahahaha..   It is dumb, but sometimes we can feel invincible (and even immortal) when we our in certain parts of what we believe to be our physical prime.

There is a lot of good information about bitcoin through writings and podcasts and even videos.  There is also mediocre work, so sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish the good work from the mediocre work, including for people to engage in critical thinking in regards to information that they read or watch.

Some people don't even like to read anything, so they just watch videos, which might end up leading them into shitcoins (or trading bitcoin) rather than investing into bitcoin.
There is and you are right not everyone likes to read stuff, but I agree that videos are more dangerous. From what I can tell how the YouTube algorithm works these days, unless you go into really smart and educational Bitcoin content it will quickly take you to influencers who are promoting all kinds of shitcoin scams. Reading a book like Mastering Bitcoin seems much safer.

Frequently when we are new to a topic, we can learn from anyone, yet sometimes if we learn bad habits, then it could take quite a bit of effort to unlearn the bad habits (and some folks might not even unlearn their bad habits if they either cannot recognize the bad habits and/or no one (they trust) points out the bad habits that they had taken on.

Sometimes we also might get caught up in battles and even thinking that we are "doing the right thing," yet we might not realize until later that we were not advantaged by getting in that battle, even though sometimes our various life battles will help to define certain aspects of our character.

Ultimately bitcoin continues to have low level retail adoption, even though there are more and more talking points from institutions and even guys like Saylor (even though in recent times, Saylor seems to have been losing some credibility even though he has a lot of decently good historical presentations).
Why do you think that Saylor seems to be losing some credibility in recent times?

He used to claim that he would never sell his bitcoin, but he changed his position.

He used to proclaim that various actions of MSTR were accretive to MSTR shares - yet there seems to be a lot of questions regarding the truth of those claims, even though surely if the BTC price goes shooting up, folks who are buying MSTR shares and other MSTR products might start to feel that Saylor ended up delivering, even though they might have had been better off to just stay in bitcoin.  Of course, if MSTR pumps higher and faster than bitcoin then they could profit from that extra pump and leverage, even though they would have to sell MSTR in order to accomplish that extra profit.  Anyhow, there can be a sense that Saylor is manipulating too much to print money, which is partly what he said that he would do, and surely folks can lose confidence when they look at his various statements over the end of 2024 and in early 2025, but then see that MSTR lost way more value relative to bitcoin over 2025, so then feel that Saylor had lied to them even though Saylor had also disclosed that MSTR would likely be more volatile to the upside and to the downside which is a truth that still might feel like a lie, and losses in confidence.

Normies have to figure out bitcoin, and it might take more than one generation, even though guys who already know about bitcoin consider it to be growing fast, we still likely have less than 1% world wide adoption of the population, and even those who own some, might not own as much as they should own or could own..
I think normies have it hard in the modern world. There is a lot of things to be distracted with, there are issues with dopamine addiction, and the economic situation is not that good either. Also Bitcoin is a bit abstract, so that makes it even more harder. It is easier to get someone interested in something that they can touch with their hands and experience directly, something like a robot vacuum or VR headset. We have to find ways to get around these challenges.

Sure, young people have to identify their career direction, and sometimes they might make bad choices and/or not prepare enough for things that they might claim that they want to do.  since certain kinds of careers (or even getting rich) will likely take some effort, and other folks might find themselves in careers they perceive to be dead ends, so then they might have to figure out if they are ready, willing and/or able to retrain.

The challenges of each age are different, and both young people and older people do not necessarily understand the extent to which the debasement of the money contributes to a lot of problems and they might not know what to do about the matter, even if they can identify the debasement of the money problem, even though bitcoin is available as likely partial solution for anyone who is able to generate discretionary income, but yeah, it can be pretty depressing to be buying bitcoin from a shitty job that hardly pays enough to generate a discretionary income, and surely anyone who is able to get a raise (or a promotion or cross trained) would then have more discretionary income to be able to invest into bitcoin, yet sometimes the route to better pay is not an easy one that normies are ready, willing and/or able to do.

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Today at 06:49:04 AM
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Yes the rich got more advantage since they have more liquidity and constant supply of funds for their discretion but that shouldn't discourage poor people make them feel they're not in a good position to invest in Bitcoin. The thing is that some poor people lack patience and that's were their problem is, they want quick money and can't be patient enough to start small, maintain consistency and grow with time.
Some poor people even make the mistake of waiting till they get a better job or earn higher income before they start, I consider it a wrong step given that they could miss lots of buying opportunities before they could get the preferred amount they feel they could start with. There's no harm in start small then increase the amount of discretionary they wish to invest with as time goes.
Rich folks have enormous flow of discretionary income compared to poor peoples,which is an advantage these rich folks have that the poor Lacks. The rich folks have the leverage of accumulating bitcoin faster dued to there financial capabilities of investing larger amounts of discretionary income in bitcoin but poor folks shouldn't be discouraged because of that.

The mistake most Poor people often make is that there are afraid of starting small  which is wrong. They want to start investing big in bitcoin. If they start waiting to invest big in bitcoin they might miss lots of good buying opportunities that could've been utilize to grow their bitcoin portfolio. The notion of waiting for the perfect time to invest is a bad idea,they shouldn't be afraid of starting small. They should focus on investing the little discretionary income that is available, maintain consistent for two cycles while they work on increasing there income they will grow over time


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Today at 12:40:41 PM
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There is a lot of good information about bitcoin through writings and podcasts and even videos.  There is also mediocre work, so sometimes it can be difficult to distinguish the good work from the mediocre work, including for people to engage in critical thinking in regards to information that they read or watch.

Some people don't even like to read anything, so they just watch videos, which might end up leading them into shitcoins (or trading bitcoin) rather than investing into bitcoin.
Having a wealth of knowledge will also amount to increasing your chance of a successful bitcoin investment. A bitcoin person must have a reading culture if they must  learn and be confident to question some informations after a critical examination of how it does not align with the digital asset. An intellectually lazy person is whom accepts all the informations that come his way cause he is too lazy to make his research and verify.

You don't need a wealth of knowledge to get started investing in bitcoin.  All you need is some common sense and discretionary funds, and you can get started investing in bitcoin.

If you have common sense, then you know that you adjust your investment size to your knowledge level and if you don't have a lot of knowledge, then you likely would decide to start out investing with a small amount, and ONLY increase your amount invested (whether weekly or otherwise) as your comfort level increases.
Okay. "Not wealth of knowledge", but there has to be at lest basic knowledge of bitcoin to begin with while common sense guides you to act cautiously with the funds size you can begin with investing, pending increased assurance in bitcoin with time.

You have been registered here since March 2025 - so merely 10 months.  Are you letting the BTC price and/or bitcoin's historical price affect whether you are buying bitcoin?
No.

If guys have absolutely no bitcoin, then they are only going to be prepared for up if they buy some bitcoin, so sure, guys can wait for bitcoin price corrections that might not happen, and they will be committing a mistake that has continued to play out with bitcoin, with many normies waiting rather than getting the fuck started, and investing into bitcoin through buying regularly, persistently, ongoingly, consistently and perhaps even aggressively.

It tends to take a long time to build up bitcoin holdings, and waiting around for dips that might not happen seems like a pretty dumb way of approaching bitcoin investing, especially for newbies who either have no coins are low quantities of coins.
Of a truth with what experience has taught us on the risk of forgoing investment opportunities when timing the market price, I will not recommend delaying to invest to invest in wait of a potential price correction before investing.

Having to begin your investment with the attitude of ""waiting for price correction" before buying can completely ruin and hinder a normie from been consistent with his weekly/monthly stacking.



Presently it has been more of an open field for institutional investors cause the price of bitcoin is still affordable for institutions. It still not an excuse to steer to shitcoins for their cheapness.

You sound distracted.

The fact that institutions, governments and/or status quo rich folks are recently seeming to buy more bitcoin should give some hints that ongoing buying of bitcoin might be a good idea rather than being worried about whether the BTC price might drop, when it might not.    

Even if newbie bitcoiners might have trouble figuring out ways to establish a 4-10 year or longer investment timeline (and most cases more than 10 years unless you have age and/or health issues that interfere with that), they likely need to get started and to figure out that it is likely that they are investing in bitcoin for 10 years or longer.  But hey whatever, newbies are free to wait and to get distracted by ideas the BTC price might drop, when it might not.
Pardon my distraction.

But the presence of the governments, large institutions and wealthy guys driving up price, it can drown the minds of normies whose basic knowledge and confident of bitcoin is shallow. Although if they can just start and be focused on personal approach with what they have and not have themselves caught in external distractions  then they can come to a convenient timeline in the process already started.

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Today at 01:17:12 PM
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You don't need a wealth of knowledge to get started investing in bitcoin.  All you need is some common sense and discretionary funds, and you can get started investing in bitcoin.

If you have common sense, then you know that you adjust your investment size to your knowledge level and if you don't have a lot of knowledge, then you likely would decide to start out investing with a small amount, and ONLY increase your amount invested (whether weekly or otherwise) as your comfort level increases.
People usually get lost wondering if they can begin bitcoin with the small income they have or if they could wait for a bigger money. They become lost in their own thought.

But with common sense they are informed  of how dumb it is to sit there asses doing nothing. Common sense makes people to see benefits in begining bitcoin even with the amount that is on ground and increase as they go. So you are right Mister Jay, common sense is imperative just as  having your discretionary income is.
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Today at 02:10:02 PM
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You don't need a wealth of knowledge to get started investing in bitcoin.  All you need is some common sense and discretionary funds, and you can get started investing in bitcoin.

If you have common sense, then you know that you adjust your investment size to your knowledge level and if you don't have a lot of knowledge, then you likely would decide to start out investing with a small amount, and ONLY increase your amount invested (whether weekly or otherwise) as your comfort level increases.
People usually get lost wondering if they can begin bitcoin with the small income they have or if they could wait for a bigger money. They become lost in their own thought.

But with common sense they are informed  of how dumb it is to sit there asses doing nothing. Common sense makes people to see benefits in begining bitcoin even with the amount that is on ground and increase as they go. So you are right Mister Jay, common sense is imperative just as  having your discretionary income is.

Most people that has doubts to start at current phase usually use this as one of the reason to delay their start and they think its good strategy while actually its not, because they provably waste lots of times with those wrong thinking they have.

Bitcoin is accessible to anyone even if you are big or even small investors, anyone can start with small then slowly learns more about this then increase their investment sizes later on once their income also their confidence grows. Common sense on Bitcoin investment always beat those doubts or each time they think about to start their investment.

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Today at 02:43:10 PM
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But the presence of the governments, large institutions and wealthy guys driving up price, it can drown the minds of normies whose basic knowledge and confident of bitcoin is shallow. Although if they can just start and be focused on personal approach with what they have and not have themselves caught in external distractions  then they can come to a convenient timeline in the process already started.
I see it the other way round, I don't think that because government and big institutions are accumulating bitcoin should be the reason why a no coiner should be discouraged in starting his bitcoin investment. Rather, it should be a motivation for them to start investing because it shows that bitcoin has been confirmed by the government that it's worth throwing some value into it amd hodli for long since it's a store of value overtime.

I could remember when government haven't involved in bitcoin accumulation and other big institutions, somw people finds it difficult to believe that bitcoin is a good asset to invest in but after the government showed interest, it ha triggered a lot of investors and individuals to start investing because the government supports it.

However, we should not invest because of anyone but because we need bitcoin as a future safer to keep the value of whatever money you don't need now but in future from losing value. Investing in bitcoin is something we should do with passion and invest regularly with your discretionary income no matter how small it is for 4-10 years and above. It's better to be a low coiner than a no coiner because the worse mistake anyone who already knows about bitcoin is not investing in bitcoin.

 Price shouldn't be what will discourage new investor because there's nothing they can do to reduce the price which is the main reason why they should get started because bitcoin price waits for no one. After all, you don't need to biy one full bitcoin but according to your discretionary income.

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Today at 04:11:45 PM
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You don't need a wealth of knowledge to get started investing in bitcoin.  All you need is some common sense and discretionary funds, and you can get started investing in bitcoin.

If you have common sense, then you know that you adjust your investment size to your knowledge level and if you don't have a lot of knowledge, then you likely would decide to start out investing with a small amount, and ONLY increase your amount invested (whether weekly or otherwise) as your comfort level increases.
People usually get lost wondering if they can begin bitcoin with the small income they have or if they could wait for a bigger money. They become lost in their own thought.

But with common sense they are informed  of how dumb it is to sit there asses doing nothing. Common sense makes people to see benefits in begining bitcoin even with the amount that is on ground and increase as they go. So you are right Mister Jay, common sense is imperative just as  having your discretionary income is.

Most people that has doubts to start at current phase usually use this as one of the reason to delay their start and they think its good strategy while actually its not, because they provably waste lots of times with those wrong thinking they have.

Bitcoin is accessible to anyone even if you are big or even small investors, anyone can start with small then slowly learns more about this then increase their investment sizes later on once their income also their confidence grows. Common sense on Bitcoin investment always beat those doubts or each time they think about to start their investment.
Some people has problems with starting small and such fails to appreciate the importance of little beginnings. Some of the whales we are seeing today or some of the people with good portfolio in bitcoin started accumulating bitcoin using smaller amounts but as a result continuous accumulation and patients they have been to have a good amount of bitcoin in there portfolio. Bitcoin doesn't regards desperation but rather it regward patience and consistency.
Although common sense isn't so common because not everyone will see the importance of small beginnings.

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To be honest, some people really want to remain poor cause they barely make efforts to change their state or desist from doing the wrong things in the name fighting poverty, someone can't be wanting to get out of a poor state and still missing good opportunities because they're skeptical about it, or doing the wrong things like trading spot and futures with Bitcoin or feel relaxed to get a job.
 People should be happy that Bitcoin has given everyone the opportunity that could lead to financial freedom and the best they can do for themselves is to get a job, learn the basics and start investing, well Bitcoin investment is a choice and only the wise ones would grab the opportunity especially now that it's still early.

The majority of poor people you see on the street are people who in their early life has had the opportunity that would have transformed their lives to better but due to fear of losing money when they had the opportunity they decided to bank the money which they later used to satisfy their stomach. A good example of people who are not taking information seriously to better their is the early adopters of Bitcoin and the people who refused to take the advantage when the price was below 30k to buy when they had the money and information. Some people who are poor today were rich during the early time of Bitcoin but they were too lazy, reluctant and timid to buy when their mates were buying today those who bought, had patience and resisted the urge and fear to sell despite the panic are all living large today while those who were afraid are still begging because they are still poor.

Some poor people today are still poor because they are lazy to get a skill, they want the government togwt everything ready for them when they haveoney to invest in Bitcoin they will complain that they are afraid to lose their money because they don't trust Bitcoin, the only thing I think when I come across people with such mentality is that they were created to be poor cause anyone who doesn't like financial freedom which Bitcoin has brought needs to be checked.

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That is true about the lifelong learning angle.  There surely are people who pick up things quicker, and others take a long time.  There are a lot of angles to bitcoin, so it can take a long time to get comfortable - even though bitcoin as compared with other investments is ONLY 1 of the 9 factors, and the other 9 factors is learning about themselves and their own ways of balancing matters.

Sometimes we would observe that if guys are getting too emotional then they might be overinvested or they might be bein too aggressive for their own knowledge level, and it could be the case that guys could choose automatic DCA, even though I personally am not much of a fan of automatic  rather than manual DCA.
There is no end to human learning, I have been learning since birth and I am still learning new things. When I go to a new environment, I realize how much I still have to learn. If someone says that learning about Bitcoin is a matter of a few days, then it is their misconception, there are things about Bitcoin and investment that we do not know yet, so instead of trying to make ourselves big for the sake of argument, we should always be more interested in knowing ourselves. Those who say that they will learn about Bitcoin and investment in a short time, I will say that they are very emotional and emotion is actually of no use in investing.
Those who get excited about the general fluctuations of the market, I will consider their activities as very emotional activities.

You should definitely give importance to this discussion, you should never rely on automatic DCA investment, but we should rely more on manual DCA investment. Currently, there are many exchanges that are providing this automatic investment facility but it is actually a strategy for the exchange to profit, if we use our talent from automatic DCA investment and follow the DCA strategy manually, it will be the best. 

In the case of automatic investment, there is no opportunity to think like manual investment, so I don't have much faith in this automatic DCA investment. So I will always talk about the DCA investment strategy and that is the manual DCA strategy.

Experience helps and perhaps starting out slow can help a person to get used to it, so the person who knows that he is capable of investing $100 per week, he might purposefully decide to start out at $30 per week until he gets his comfort level to a better place.
Whatever work we do, we have to do it with joy. When a work seems to us to be pressured, we will not be able to do it to the best of our ability or we will not be able to do it from the heart. I think starting to invest with a small amount of our ability is not only a matter of capital management but also a very good step in mental preparation. When a person starts investing in a new situation, he is worried about many things in the market such as market instability or market decline, at this time he starts investing with a small amount of money that is less than his ability, then even if there is a temporary negative change in the market, he will be able to continue investing consistently. Because he is not investing beyond his ability, but he is investing below his ability and this will gradually turn him into a true investor's mentality.

Since ability and belief in something are born gradually in people, I think it is better to move forward slowly but with a long-term plan rather than jumping straight into it.


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