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August 20, 2025, 09:04:33 PM
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The Bible also made us to understand that, he will bless the works of our hands and cause them to prosper, meaning that you must have something doing for God to elevate you, and it also said that there is no food for a lazy man ,so he who feel relaxed and expect miracles,you want to be like Bitcoin Lord but you didn't even have an account talk less of have any assets,i think you are a big joker.
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August 20, 2025, 09:23:50 PM
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Praying for the market to go upwards or downwards according to your direction is a waste of time...at the end of the day the dynamics of the market is going to take it's course not minding your religion...when you are dealing with that financial market put all that aside, seek information and apply them, this is what would guarantee Profit not prayers.. everyone has their own perspective and ideas on things though

These kinds of feelings and prayers are usually tied to people' emotions and sentiments. If everyone's wishes and prayers were to work on the market, everyone including those who took the obviously wrong decisions would have benefited from the market too. The truth about all of these is, the market is determined by factors which serve as our indices for making our analysis and decisions when entering the market, well, I will say if the market indices comes with your prayers coincidentally, it might favour you but it is never an ideal way of going into the market because it will end up messing with your mental health. While religion could be a great deal in our lives, we should not allow it to psychologically affect our decision making process. Abeg, before you make your decisions, study the market properly especially when it has to do with Bitcoin trading and the realities behind it.

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August 28, 2025, 10:48:34 AM
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Praying within putting works to back up your actions is dead. There's no one who has ever achieved anything without putting efforts, and working hard towards it, even fasting doesn't pay bills or gives anyone money rather prayers and fasting are tools that can uplift your spiritual life.

Some people thinks God will probably send money from heaven to them that's not how God works. Is also important to get knowledge about something especially if you have interest in it, like me I still have a lot to know concerning Bitcoin so I learn and ask questions where necessary, because I'm interested in it.
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August 28, 2025, 01:00:04 PM
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First off, I have to acknowledge the holy book because it gave me the inspiration to create this thread "James 2:17-26" it adviced Christian believers that having faith or hoping for a positive result without putting much effort to make it manifest is as good as dead. I've found out that many Nigerian believers are fund of this practice and it's part of the reason why some are still struggling to be financially stable, you'll see people praying for positive results without putting much effort to make it work.

 I had a discussion with some dude and he was like he loves Bitcoin and would love to own a fair portion of it someday he even said he's praying for God to give him like 1 BTC, honestly i laughed out loud cause his statement was so funny, like you're praying to have 1 BTC but you're not working hard to own it or putting effort to own a fair portion of it, makes to sense at all. Grin

 My advice to him was that every Bitcoin believers have hope for a better future, and instead of praying for God to give him Bitcoin, he should get a job if he doesn't have any then start buying Bitcoin gradually and according his income, Bitcoin investment is not some spiritual battle you fight against with prayers, you own it by putting effort towards owning it, which is buying then Hodling for a long period to make more future profits, I believe that my advice would help him change that mentality and work towards getting the amount of Bitcoin he wishes to have in the future. Grin Grin Grin
 
As a Christian myself who believes in God to be a God of yesterday, today and forever, I believe nothing is impossible for Him to do if he wants to do it, if Jesus christ could get money out from the mouth of a fish, He can still give that dude and anyone of us who desires it 1 bitcoin or even more if He wants..

But you are absolutely correct, faith without works is dead, meaning some things doesn't come or happen by just having faith, we have to actually go out there and work for it out for it is through the works of our hands can God answer our prayer of owning 1 or more bitcoins, who ever is praying for something like this and refuse to take any step towards actualizing it, is simply wasting his or her time..

You’re right, God works in a miraculous way but then when it comes to bitcoin investment I think it depends mostly on your level of hard work and consistency. We can only pray for God to bless the works of our hands and not expect God to bless us from no where. Bitcoin itself is not even a get rich quick kind of investment, it requires patience and stability while accumulating and hold to gradually build up your portfolio. The more you accumulate and hold, the more your chances of achieving success in your bitcoin journey.

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August 28, 2025, 01:57:41 PM
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Bitcoin is a digital currency that is worth having, but then you cannot have bitcoin by mier talk, you cannot have bitcoin without working towards it. To own a bitcoin , you can either buy Bitcoin with your own money or you mine it.you don't expect bitcoin to appear in your crypto or bitcoin wallet all of a sudden. If you want to invest in bitcoin make your plans if you cannot buy a whole bitcoin invest little by little and don't expect free bitcoin from anyone before you own one or a piece of it.

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August 28, 2025, 03:03:10 PM
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It's very unfortunate that most people still do not understand their stand till now. Because it is your effort in life that would going to lead you into what God plan for you in future, that is what most people normally forget. Hoping that whenever they just pray to God that everything would just work out for them easily, without remembering that heaven helps those who help themselves. More especially in this Bitcoin investment, you most definitely start from somewhere. Then as time goes on that is when you would start putting things in prayer, not when you do not have any good plans for yourself.
Exactly, in addition to this, they said whatever one wishes for themselves will come to pass, if you wish yourself good, good things will come to you, if you also wishes yourself bad, bad things will also come to you.
So, we should always try and be positive, work towards our dreams and leave the rest for God, because faith without work is nothing, we can't be praying and be expecting miracle from above when we are not doing anything, even the bible also say it that LIFE and DEATH are in the power of the tongue.

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August 28, 2025, 05:13:47 PM
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Another perspective.. I think he was at that point, wishful thinking and the guy doesn't actually mean God should give him 1 bitcoin as it is apparent that God can't literally give anyone bitcoin. Perhaps the OP was the one that took it as being literal. Seeing how religious the OP appears to be, I don't think that to be far fetched.

On the other hand and on a sad note, it's no secret on how some deeply religious people tend to be ignorantly unaware of reality. When it comes down to bitcoin investment or any other investment, effort is largely needed. You can always pray if it would make you feel better.

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August 29, 2025, 05:10:01 PM
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Another perspective.. I think he was at that point, wishful thinking and the guy doesn't actually mean God should give him 1 bitcoin as it is apparent that God can't literally give anyone bitcoin. Perhaps the OP was the one that took it as being literal. Seeing how religious the OP appears to be, I don't think that to be far fetched.

On the other hand and on a sad note, it's no secret on how some deeply religious people tend to be ignorantly unaware of reality. When it comes down to bitcoin investment or any other investment, effort is largely needed. You can always pray if it would make you feel better.

I don't think you really understand that post, I'm not saying it bad to be wishful, but when you want your wish to come true you work towards it  which simply means putting effort to actualize it, you just don't wish to have BTC and do nothing whereas others are busy staking their portfolio on different intervals while you're there wishing that it would drop into your wallet like manner from heaven, things don't work that way.

 BTC is bought and Hodled for more profits you don't own it through wishes dear, moverover I'm not a religious bigot like you think thats why instead of wishing like that guy I work smart to earn Bitcoin, like you said "effort is largely needed" so anyone who wants to own some Bitcoin should put efforts towards getting it instead of wishing.

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August 29, 2025, 08:15:33 PM
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Another perspective.. I think he was at that point, wishful thinking and the guy doesn't actually mean God should give him 1 bitcoin as it is apparent that God can't literally give anyone bitcoin. Perhaps the OP was the one that took it as being literal. Seeing how religious the OP appears to be, I don't think that to be far fetched.

On the other hand and on a sad note, it's no secret on how some deeply religious people tend to be ignorantly unaware of reality. When it comes down to bitcoin investment or any other investment, effort is largely needed. You can always pray if it would make you feel better.

I don't think you really understand that post, I'm not saying it bad to be wishful, but when you want your wish to come true you work towards it  which simply means putting effort to actualize it, you just don't wish to have BTC and do nothing whereas others are busy staking their portfolio on different intervals while you're there wishing that it would drop into your wallet like manner from heaven, things don't work that way.

 BTC is bought and Hodled for more profits you don't own it through wishes dear, moverover I'm not a religious bigot like you think thats why instead of wishing like that guy I work smart to earn Bitcoin, like you said "effort is largely needed" so anyone who wants to own some Bitcoin should put efforts towards getting it instead of wishing.
Even the holy bible makes it to be very clear, that faith without work is dead. I believe this is not something that requires much explanation,    yes wishing alone without action won't build up our portfolio as much as having faith is good we shouldn't just rely only on it without taking any action to make such that our portfolio is in good shape.  There is nothing wrong in wishing for something good and having faith, but it becomes a bad thing when we don't take any action in ensuring that what we are wishing for to materialise.

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August 29, 2025, 08:49:31 PM
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I don't think you really understand that post, I'm not saying it bad to be wishful, but when you want your wish to come true you work towards it  which simply means putting effort to actualize it, you just don't wish to have BTC and do nothing whereas others are busy staking their portfolio on different intervals while you're there wishing that it would drop into your wallet like manner from heaven, things don't work that way.

 BTC is bought and Hodled for more profits you don't own it through wishes dear, moverover I'm not a religious bigot like you think thats why instead of wishing like that guy I work smart to earn Bitcoin, like you said "effort is largely needed" so anyone who wants to own some Bitcoin should put efforts towards getting it instead of wishing.

Relax Princess, I don't know how you got the idea but I never thought or implied in any way that you are a religious bigot. Being religious and being a bigot about it are worlds apart and aren't the same.
Perhaps I didn't understand,  perhaps I did and chose to see it differently. One thing is certain, effort is what's largely needed.  More than wishes or prayers. At least we can agree on that. Right?

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August 29, 2025, 08:51:26 PM
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First off, I have to acknowledge the holy book because it gave me the inspiration to create this thread "James 2:17-26" it adviced Christian believers that having faith or hoping for a positive result without putting much effort to make it manifest is as good as dead. I've found out that many Nigerian believers are fund of this practice and it's part of the reason why some are still struggling to be financially stable, you'll see people praying for positive results without putting much effort to make it work.

 I had a discussion with some dude and he was like he loves Bitcoin and would love to own a fair portion of it someday he even said he's praying for God to give him like 1 BTC, honestly i laughed out loud cause his statement was so funny, like you're praying to have 1 BTC but you're not working hard to own it or putting effort to own a fair portion of it, makes to sense at all. Grin

 My advice to him was that every Bitcoin believers have hope for a better future, and instead of praying for God to give him Bitcoin, he should get a job if he doesn't have any then start buying Bitcoin gradually and according his income, Bitcoin investment is not some spiritual battle you fight against with prayers, you own it by putting effort towards owning it, which is buying then Hodling for a long period to make more future profits, I believe that my advice would help him change that mentality and work towards getting the amount of Bitcoin he wishes to have in the future. Grin Grin Grin

 
Even in life generally, prayer without effort or hard work is a waste of time, this is not the days of manna from heaven anymore and even if you want God to help and bless you, you will have to give him something to work with. How does he expect God almighty to give him 1btc when he doesn't have have a Bitcoin address to receive it? He needs to start somewhere first by investing in Bitcoin, creating a BTC address and God will do his own part. God doesn't work with a lazy man, it is good to dream big and wish for the best things in life but you also need to work for them and God in return will make the journey smooth and easy for you.

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August 30, 2025, 11:09:19 AM
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What most people do not really understand is that God doesn't give people money, rather He gives us ideas and inspiration that you can apply and make that money, same thing goes with owning Bitcoin or any material thing. Either ways, you gotta put in effort. There are a lot of people God has given crazy ideas that would've potentially changed their lives financial, but the fact that they refused to put in the effort has kept them in their current position.

Some people be like, God is still doing miracles, yes He is, but how sure are they that God is going to give them that miracle? God said, "I'll show mercy to whom I'll show mercy, and I'll show compassion to whom I'll show compassion. People don't get miracles by just praying for it alone, the formula is to work and pray, not just praying and the sooner we all acknowledge this fact, the sooner we'll learn how to set our priorities straight and move forward.

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August 30, 2025, 03:41:13 PM
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Relax Princess, I don't know how you got the idea but I never thought or implied in any way that you are a religious bigot. Being religious and being a bigot about it are worlds apart and aren't the same.
Perhaps I didn't understand,  perhaps I did and chose to see it differently. One thing is certain, effort is what's largely needed.  More than wishes or prayers. At least we can agree on that. Right?

Maybe I got the wrong impression of what you're trying to say but yes we're on the same page and that's if you agree that prayers without efforts is a waste of time, I'm not saying miracles doesn't happen nor people should stop believing in their faith but in the reality to achieve something needs good effort to make it possible.

 My aim of creating this post is so people should understand that faith alone or prayers won't without working won't fetch them daily bread or money if you really need something then work towards achieving it then pray or wish for God to bless your effort, it's as simple as that and not the other way round.

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August 30, 2025, 04:48:48 PM
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Emotions can do a lot, but it has no value in financial terms. I also think that if I could own a Bitcoin, it would be much better for me. But if I just wait for it and not buy a Bitcoin, then I will never be owner of any Bitcoin. My situation will remain the same in the future. Dreaming is certainly good, but only if positive dreams can be turned into reality, then that dream will be worthwhile. If the money needed to get Bitcoin is not suitable for buying 1 Bitcoin, then you must gradually invest and try to accumulate Bitcoin. In this way, it is possible to own Bitcoin at one time, but if you only want to get Bitcoin by the words then there is no benefit.

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Relax Princess, I don't know how you got the idea but I never thought or implied in any way that you are a religious bigot. Being religious and being a bigot about it are worlds apart and aren't the same.
Perhaps I didn't understand,  perhaps I did and chose to see it differently. One thing is certain, effort is what's largely needed.  More than wishes or prayers. At least we can agree on that. Right?

Maybe I got the wrong impression of what you're trying to say but yes we're on the same page and that's if you agree that prayers without efforts is a waste of time, I'm not saying miracles doesn't happen nor people should stop believing in their faith but in the reality to achieve something needs good effort to make it possible.

 My aim of creating this post is so people should understand that faith alone or prayers won't without working won't fetch them daily bread or money if you really need something then work towards achieving it then pray or wish for God to bless your effort, it's as simple as that and not the other way round.

I always tell people that to really get something, you must have your own efforts, you cannot just ask God for it but you must try your best to get that thing, you have to ask God for it and then achieve that thing yourself, otherwise success will never come to you on its own, and God will never give anything to someone who only asks but does not make his own efforts to achieve it. So we must work hard, it is possible to achieve success only through hard work, effort and asking God.











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Faith without work is dead and that is said by the Bible itself. So this book of knowledge don let us understand say believing is not enough to become  successful you gat put in the hard work to fit pull out something wey no be everybody fit just do. Why self motivation is the key to making out because,  when the world go turn em back against you na just yourself you go get to cry to. So instead of that to happen make we just starts to put our hands to works maybe before the wolrd go start to turn their backs on you don already start to dey see small small thing wey go dey keep you ok.

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Faith without work is dead and that is said by the Bible itself. So this book of knowledge don let us understand say believing is not enough to become  successful you gat put in the hard work to fit pull out something wey no be everybody fit just do. Why self motivation is the key to making out because,  when the world go turn em back against you na just yourself you go get to cry to. So instead of that to happen make we just starts to put our hands to works maybe before the wolrd go start to turn their backs on you don already start to dey see small small thing wey go dey keep you ok.
I think even the bible verse has mak it opened to us that faith without works is dead so i think in everything there always a need for action to accomplish belief, success often requires putting in the effort and perseverance to overcome some challenges and tl achieve good goals.  

By dey talk say hard work and self-motivation dey important, honestly  speaking it is really encouraging for people make dem take charge of dem success and well-being

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Another perspective.. I think he was at that point, wishful thinking and the guy doesn't actually mean God should give him 1 bitcoin as it is apparent that God can't literally give anyone bitcoin. Perhaps the OP was the one that took it as being literal. Seeing how religious the OP appears to be, I don't think that to be far fetched.

On the other hand and on a sad note, it's no secret on how some deeply religious people tend to be ignorantly unaware of reality. When it comes down to bitcoin investment or any other investment, effort is largely needed. You can always pray if it would make you feel better.

I don't think you really understand that post, I'm not saying it bad to be wishful, but when you want your wish to come true you work towards it  which simply means putting effort to actualize it, you just don't wish to have BTC and do nothing whereas others are busy staking their portfolio on different intervals while you're there wishing that it would drop into your wallet like manner from heaven, things don't work that way.

 BTC is bought and Hodled for more profits you don't own it through wishes dear, moverover I'm not a religious bigot like you think thats why instead of wishing like that guy I work smart to earn Bitcoin, like you said "effort is largely needed" so anyone who wants to own some Bitcoin should put efforts towards getting it instead of wishing.
Even the holy bible makes it to be very clear, that faith without work is dead. I believe this is not something that requires much explanation,    yes wishing alone without action won't build up our portfolio as much as having faith is good we shouldn't just rely only on it without taking any action to make such that our portfolio is in good shape.  There is nothing wrong in wishing for something good and having faith, but it becomes a bad thing when we don't take any action in ensuring that what we are wishing for to materialise.

What is even the point of bringing religious beliefs in to Bitcoin investment? Every investor must be highly optimistic of a successful investment which of course might not just happen by merely wishes, there must be work to be done which requires efforts both financially and other wise, with or without prayers what will be must surely be, am. Not always comfortable when people brings about religious beliefs in to Bitcoin investment, Bitcoin investment is a non religious entity but however, am not against those holding upon their religious beliefs.

 
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First off, I have to acknowledge the holy book because it gave me the inspiration to create this thread "James 2:17-26" it adviced Christian believers that having faith or hoping for a positive result without putting much effort to make it manifest is as good as dead. I've found out that many Nigerian believers are fund of this practice and it's part of the reason why some are still struggling to be financially stable, you'll see people praying for positive results without putting much effort to make it work.

 I had a discussion with some dude and he was like he loves Bitcoin and would love to own a fair portion of it someday he even said he's praying for God to give him like 1 BTC, honestly i laughed out loud cause his statement was so funny, like you're praying to have 1 BTC but you're not working hard to own it or putting effort to own a fair portion of it, makes to sense at all. Grin

 My advice to him was that every Bitcoin believers have hope for a better future, and instead of praying for God to give him Bitcoin, he should get a job if he doesn't have any then start buying Bitcoin gradually and according his income, Bitcoin investment is not some spiritual battle you fight against with prayers, you own it by putting effort towards owning it, which is buying then Hodling for a long period to make more future profits, I believe that my advice would help him change that mentality and work towards getting the amount of Bitcoin he wishes to have in the future. Grin Grin Grin

 
I don't see how prayer without work aligns infact the bible itself said prayer without work is dead.you don't expect to put zero effort in things and expect manner to fall from heaven it's not possible.the bible itself also said he will bless the work of our hands which means if you're not the hardworking or the type that work towards positive results and not just believing it my dear you will remain in the same position for years and God himself won't save you.so be wise and do not misquote the Bible cos it didn't misquote itself.if you truly need money you have to work for it there is no short cut to success without hardwork.
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First off, I have to acknowledge the holy book because it gave me the inspiration to create this thread "James 2:17-26" it adviced Christian believers that having faith or hoping for a positive result without putting much effort to make it manifest is as good as dead. I've found out that many Nigerian believers are fund of this practice and it's part of the reason why some are still struggling to be financially stable, you'll see people praying for positive results without putting much effort to make it work.

 I had a discussion with some dude and he was like he loves Bitcoin and would love to own a fair portion of it someday he even said he's praying for God to give him like 1 BTC, honestly i laughed out loud cause his statement was so funny, like you're praying to have 1 BTC but you're not working hard to own it or putting effort to own a fair portion of it, makes to sense at all. Grin

 My advice to him was that every Bitcoin believers have hope for a better future, and instead of praying for God to give him Bitcoin, he should get a job if he doesn't have any then start buying Bitcoin gradually and according his income, Bitcoin investment is not some spiritual battle you fight against with prayers, you own it by putting effort towards owning it, which is buying then Hodling for a long period to make more future profits, I believe that my advice would help him change that mentality and work towards getting the amount of Bitcoin he wishes to have in the future. Grin Grin Grin

 
I was inspired by James 2:17–26, which teaches that faith without action is empty. I’ve noticed that many Nigerian believers, including those interested in Bitcoin, often rely mainly on prayer for financial success without putting in practical effort. I recently spoke with someone who said he wants to own Bitcoin and is praying to receive 1 BTC. I found it amusing because it felt strange to pray for something without taking concrete steps toward achieving it.
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