Balancing Financial security and Bitcoin Accumulation

[Ruttoshi]

Focus should be channelled to building up more emergency funds than increasing the DCA allocation for the sole purpose of cushioning your bitcoin stash against emergency situations that can lead to premature sales.

There's a level that you need to build your emergency funds up to and when you have achieved that level which is at least three months of your monthly income, you can build up a reserve funds and float by channeling that money that you are using to build your emergency funds into your reserve funds.

Increasing an growing your bitcoin investment for 4-10 years and above should be your priority and not putting your priority on build a large emergency funds, because holding too much of fiat is not ideal since it losses value overtime. This is why you must keep your DCA ongoing every week, consistently and persistently in order to be able to accumulate a good size of bitcoin for your future.

Emergency may/may not happen but it's good that we prepare for it. Bitcoin price increases overtime and if you keep accumulating in a whimpy way, when you can increase the amount that you are using to DCA from your discretionary income and it wouldn't stress your finance, you will regret it in future when bitcoin will be very expensive and you will have little bitcoin in your portfolio. This is why it's good to buy aggressively and frontload your bitcoin investment if you can because the price that you buy today, you might not have the opportunity to buy it again at that price by tomorrow.

The best thing to do is, if you have used part of your emergency funds for a real life emergency, you should refill it back.

[Tungbulu]

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So first of all, I think every investor should kill the traders spirit which gets you to follow the chart always and also keeps you waiting for dips to invest.

I agree that if we are in our accumulation phase of our bitcoin investment, we likely need to focus on various ongoing buying ways to get bitcoin, and selling bitcoin in order to accumulate more seems like a gambling approach to bitcoin and filled with too many uncertainties,

Exactly. Many folks focus more on bitcoin gambling than accumulation. They claim to be accumulating bitcoin until a supposed opportunity presents itself to them and they sell off immediately. They have the mind of a trader. Also, the level of uncertainties in bitcoin trading (gambling) is the reason for quitting bitcoin investment when they encounter series of losses. We may not dictate what another does with his money, but we can only suggest an assumed better approach to doing things.

The reason why this is so is because a lot of people in the crypto sphere started off with shitcoin investment and like we already know, those who invest in shitcoins have that gambler's mindset and then when they came to learn about Bitcoin, rather than dumping that mindset, they still approach Bitcoin with that flawed mindset, seeking for short term gains rather than considering the asset for its long term benefits. Bitcoin is far better than these shitcoins, in fact, they are not on the same league so there's no way you'll get a positive result by using the same approach. Bitcoin is a long term game and everyone that's involved must set a long term goal and those goals need to be realistic because that's the only way that they'll be able to come up with a unique strategy that suits pretty well with their unique financial and psychology position.

[Silikiem]

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Emergency fund it is very important to our daily life activities and when it is also related to Bitcoin investments, emergency fund play an important role in Bitcoin investments that serva as a backup incase of unforeseen circumstances, so every investors needs to plan when and how to back up his/her investments, my attention goes to the highlight capital sentence above that investors should create his/her emergency fund alongside your investments, such a statement is not wrong but for the purpose of being capable of identifying or sperating the one that is your investments and emergency fund, i will advise that you should give a month difference or more after you have invested for proper clearfication of the investment and emergency fund.

A lot of guys get sloppy, and they don't have any emergency fund, so then their bitcoin (their investment) ends up serving as their emergency fund.  So then that bad practice likely becomes a matter of being too greedy, when frequently it is better to hold back a certain amount of cash and to keep that cash on hand to cover various situation that might come up and certain situations that might last quite a long time, so many times there is a recommendation to have at least three months of emergency funds, but if a guy is in his early stages of building up his bitcoin investment, he might build his emergency fund at the same time as building his bitcoin investment, and yeah sure during that period of time that both are being built simultaneously, it is true that the guy might suffer some emergency in which his emergency fund is not enough, so there remains a balancing of determinations to build up his emergency fund and bitcoin investment simultaneously (which I think is the better way forward) or to build up his emergency fund prior to investing into bitcoin (which I believe is an inferior approach and even maybe showing that the guy does not understand the importance of getting started investing into bitcoin).  

There are guys who might have less than 10% of their income that they are able to split into investing into bitcoin and also building their emergency fund, and if you think about it if they are investing only 5% into bitcoin and 5% into their emergency fund, it could well take around 5 years for them to build their emergency fund and their bitcoin to point that they have invested 3 months of their income (which is 25% of their annual income) into each... so those lower levels of investment take a long time to build up investment portfolios, and even in that particular example once the emergency fund is 3 months of expenses, then at that point then more emphasis could be given to just investing into bitcoin, even though some folks want to build reserve funds too.. so reserve funds have more flexibility to be used for other things and I imagine if a guy is taking 5 years to build up 3 months of expenses of an emergency fund, he may also be tapping into that emergency fund from time to time, which will cause him to have to replenish any amounts that he had tapped into and depleted the emergency funds.

Very interesting and I like the fact that you pointed out some bad strategy which when employed by investors will be very detrimental to their investment and will put them in a bad position where they tend to their bitcoin (their investment) for emergency funds. Especially in the part where you say most guys gets sloppy and they don’t have any emergency funds. Being sloppy here I can attest to that because I’ve been a victim of such in the past whereby there was this period I became too greedy and careless with my investments neglecting the higher percentage of my income for emergency funds and due to my greediness I invested almost all my income generated that month into my bitcoin investments because I thought I was going to hit it big but little did I know that I was getting it wrong and not sooner than later I started feeling the heat from uncertainties arising from my other financial obligations whereby I was forced to sell part of my holdings to settle my financial obligations and it really affected my investment and ever since then I learnt my lessons and I’ve always tried to be more careful and whenever I do get my income I don’t try to be greedy to invest majority of the percentage, as a matter of fact after settling my other financial obligations and paid all my bills, the remaining money which is supposed to be my discretionary income, I still have to take out a major percentage off it and save for my emergency funds and whatever is left I then used to invest just so I don’t get to sell any part of my holdings no matter what the emergency situation may be.
Perhaps some of those folks who falls to this category can be able to fix things up with this strategy and stop being greedy in their investment decisions, and gradually build up their portfolio no matter how little, what matters most is being consistent with their accumulation and HODL for the long term goal.

[Jostern]

You know what you must know is that people don't usually know when to invest, how to invest and when not to invest. Usually, investment is when you are financially stable to make it reality but most people nowadays jump into investments without at least having source of income or something that would give them income when they are in need or lacking moment.
It's true that everyone out there loves investments but getting to know the rules of investment is what most people are lacking, that is why many people faces hard time with their investments or ends up pulling off their investments when their time isn't yet to come.

Na waiting make them say failure to plan is planning to fail, person wey no plan en self well will definitely not get to a greater height ( success). This thing wey you take na the mistake some people dey make this time oo and waiting they cause this mistake na greed and big eye because when they see say there friends don dey grow for Bitcoin investment and those there friends get stable source of income, the person no go want calm down know say Bitcoin investment no be competition, them go rush carry money put and when e red for them, na them go still carry there hand sell off everything and sometimes them fit dey for loss.

That is true, we must learn to place value on our investment if we must last longer and makes good profits from our investment. For instance, doing proper consultation before jumping doing into whatever we would want to do, most time when following how they shares their success stories you would see that there are also some difficult time for them but they wouldn't want to scare new investors rather cover up their bad experiences and share only the good side, but those who doesn't know how the investment works could just go invested with all their life savings with the mindset it would automatically be profited with few months or days.

Although, no doubt because there are all possibilities for such to happened only if they get involved in with altcoin that are more of pump/dump, when they are lucky they could get pumped to cash out good profits from their investments and only those who have been in the cryptocurrencies space can actually achieved such quicker profits.

It is okay to evaluate the value of the investment. But what advice would you give to those who can afford to invest some amount from their income? No one invests with all their money. They invest as much as they can and hope to make a profit. However, it is not bad to invest with all their money if they can maintain it. And they are able to keep their daily expenses, emergency fund and reserve fund. An investor should always invest by deciding the time for how long they actually want to invest. And no matter how many obstacles and dangers come during this time, they will not lose their investment. If someone invests by deciding the time, then it is expected that they will be able to make a profit from their investment.

For example, you invested for a long period of 4 years. But you sold the investment after 2 years for some urgent work. Your mistake there was that you lost the investment because you could not maintain the timing. Just as there is a need to allocate money in investment, there is also a need to allocate time, because time is the most valuable thing.

I share your sentiment but at some certain point I don’t agree with you that investing in Bitcoin with all your money, You’re not meant to invest in Bitcoin with all your money, rather a discretionary income is what you should be investing from, because Bitcoin is a very volatile and unpredictable assets, Having your income is okay and after taking care of your expenses then you have a discretionary income that is were you are meant to be investing your bitcoin and accumulating, and having a good strategy to maintain your investment that is the next thing to be put in place like your emergency funds, reserved funds and probably some floating funds.

[Scarlett_23]

It is okay to evaluate the value of the investment. But what advice would you give to those who can afford to invest some amount from their income? No one invests with all their money. They invest as much as they can and hope to make a profit. However, it is not bad to invest with all their money if they can maintain it. And they are able to keep their daily expenses, emergency fund and reserve fund. An investor should always invest by deciding the time for how long they actually want to invest. And no matter how many obstacles and dangers come during this time, they will not lose their investment. If someone invests by deciding the time, then it is expected that they will be able to make a profit from their investment.

For example, you invested for a long period of 4 years. But you sold the investment after 2 years for some urgent work. Your mistake there was that you lost the investment because you could not maintain the timing. Just as there is a need to allocate money in investment, there is also a need to allocate time, because time is the most valuable thing.

You ended up contradicting yourself here buddy. It's not a good financial activity to put all your money into Bitcoin, I don't see a chance of maintaining it since expenses keeps coming and most be sustained, else it would weigh you down and you'll have to remove part of what you've invested into to take care of your expenses which is a bad practice.

Beyond expenses, it's a very bad approach to invest all your money when you've not built out your backup funds and most especially your emergency funds to be equal to at least three months of your expenses budget. If real emergencies occurs, your portfolio is still at risk of being tempered.

Like the topic suggests, it's important to create a kind of balance in your investment life in order not to mount undue pressure on yourself in the course of following up your investment and it's essential you apply good cashflow management practices in order to navigate your investment journey more efficiently and effectively and be able to maintain and sustain it for a long-term.

I agree with you that after securing the present, the future has to be secured. That is, first think about survival and then fulfill your future dreams. If a person invests all his monthly income in Bitcoin or any other field, it will disrupt his normal life. Therefore, he should create an emergency fund with the aim of making the right investments.

So that in case of any danger, he can spend three to six months stress-free without anyone's help. And since the emergency fund is for emergency times, this money should be kept in a place where it can be easily accessed when needed. Along with this, an investor should have a risk-taking mindset.

It is natural for the price of Bitcoin to rise and then fall. It is important not to be too happy because the price rises today but to keep in mind how to stabilize yourself if the price falls tomorrow.

[Shadiq]

I agree with you that after securing the present, the future has to be secured. That is, first think about survival and then fulfill your future dreams. If a person invests all his monthly income in Bitcoin or any other field, it will disrupt his normal life. Therefore, he should create an emergency fund with the aim of making the right investments.

So that in case of any danger, he can spend three to six months stress-free without anyone's help. And since the emergency fund is for emergency times, this money should be kept in a place where it can be easily accessed when needed. Along with this, an investor should have a risk-taking mindset.

It is natural for the price of Bitcoin to rise and then fall. It is important not to be too happy because the price rises today but to keep in mind how to stabilize yourself if the price falls tomorrow.

Yes, you are right. Before planning for the future, we should be busy with the present time. If real life is disrupted and there is a mistake in managing real life, then we should be busy with solving it first. Because, before entering the future, you have to live in reality. That is why your discretionary income is given great importance to start investing. So that you can meet your daily needs to survive, then focus on arranging the investment plan (in future planning).

We can even consider the emergency fund as part of the near future plan. Although many still consider the emergency fund as part of the future plan, but that future may not be very far away. You can consider the present time as an emergency, which can happen at any time. So keep the emergency fund always ready and easily accessible. The most important thing is, never interfere with the emergency fund except in an emergency.

[cxtreenal]

It is okay to evaluate the value of the investment. But what advice would you give to those who can afford to invest some amount from their income? No one invests with all their money. They invest as much as they can and hope to make a profit. However, it is not bad to invest with all their money if they can maintain it. And they are able to keep their daily expenses, emergency fund and reserve fund. An investor should always invest by deciding the time for how long they actually want to invest. And no matter how many obstacles and dangers come during this time, they will not lose their investment. If someone invests by deciding the time, then it is expected that they will be able to make a profit from their investment.

For example, you invested for a long period of 4 years. But you sold the investment after 2 years for some urgent work. Your mistake there was that you lost the investment because you could not maintain the timing. Just as there is a need to allocate money in investment, there is also a need to allocate time, because time is the most valuable thing.

You ended up contradicting yourself here buddy. It's not a good financial activity to put all your money into Bitcoin, I don't see a chance of maintaining it since expenses keeps coming and most be sustained, else it would weigh you down and you'll have to remove part of what you've invested into to take care of your expenses which is a bad practice.

Beyond expenses, it's a very bad approach to invest all your money when you've not built out your backup funds and most especially your emergency funds to be equal to at least three months of your expenses budget. If real emergencies occurs, your portfolio is still at risk of being tempered.

Like the topic suggests, it's important to create a kind of balance in your investment life in order not to mount undue pressure on yourself in the course of following up your investment and it's essential you apply good cashflow management practices in order to navigate your investment journey more efficiently and effectively and be able to maintain and sustain it for a long-term.

I agree with you that after securing the present, the future has to be secured. That is, first think about survival and then fulfill your future dreams. If a person invests all his monthly income in Bitcoin or any other field, it will disrupt his normal life. Therefore, he should create an emergency fund with the aim of making the right investments.

So that in case of any danger, he can spend three to six months stress-free without anyone's help. And since the emergency fund is for emergency times, this money should be kept in a place where it can be easily accessed when needed. Along with this, an investor should have a risk-taking mindset.

It is natural for the price of Bitcoin to rise and then fall. It is important not to be too happy because the price rises today but to keep in mind how to stabilize yourself if the price falls tomorrow.

Of course. Building future investments in bar with our current financial situation. If your financial situation is stable and you do not feel excessive pressure on your daily income, then Bitcoin investment can take you to a potential level. Bitcoin investment for beginners is a mix of emotions and feelings. They focus on long-term accumulation for the future and want to buy aggressively in the present. I think that some part of money of the discretionary income should be kept for emergency funds and another part for Bitcoin. By accumulation through this process, you can continue your weekly buying continuously.

I agree with the emergency fund period you have given of three to six months. This seems to me to be sufficient time, one can increase it more according to financial capacity. However, what I am thinking is that the amount of floating cash should be increased in the same way so that aggressive buy can be planned in the future during bearish periods.

[JayJuanGee]

So first of all, I think every investor should kill the traders spirit which gets you to follow the chart always and also keeps you waiting for dips to invest.

I agree that if we are in our accumulation phase of our bitcoin investment, we likely need to focus on various ongoing buying ways to get bitcoin, and selling bitcoin in order to accumulate more seems like a gambling approach to bitcoin and filled with too many uncertainties, since if our goal involves accumulating more bitcoin we need to attempt to stay focused on ongoing buying of bitcoin in various ways, and sure at some point it might start to seem that we don't necessarily need to continue to buy bitcoin, even though at some point we will likely will need to calculate the extent to which we need to buy more bitcoin or perhaps transition into either a holding phase or maybe at some point we just buy on dips, since we mostly are getting close to having enough or more than enough bitcoin, and of course, I consider the goal to be entering into sustainable withdrawal and/or having bitcoin as a lifetime investment rather than either selling out of it or overly depleting it, unless a person might be close to death or have some age and/or health considerations that motivates needs to sell larger portions of bitcoin rather than more incrementalist ways of price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawals (selling of small amounts based on established parameters).

That's right. During the accumulation stage, selling is a totally bad option, even if the investor's intention is to buy later when the price is much lower in order to maximise profit, this is a trader's mindset and a totally bad idea considering the volatile nature of the market. It's impossible to predict what the market's next move would be and you could end up missing out on more potential gains while waiting for a dip that may likely not come, that's not a reliable strategy at all and anyone doing this could end up in losses, especially when the person is still in his accumulation stage.

Well yes.  The loss of selling bitcoin at various points when a guy is still supposed to be trying to accumulate bitcoin comes from both taking the chances that the BTC prices goes down, but also potentially losing opportunities to continue to ongoingly build up his bitcoin holdings in a sure way (even if the value of his coins are ongoingly fluctuating), which is continued buying… and surely, a person could get lucky with some attempts to trade his bitcoin, yet it is likely not going to make as much difference to his whole stacking experience in terms of actually building his bitcoin rather than taking chances with it as just staying focused on ongoing, consistent, regular,  persistent and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin, which suredly contributes to the bitcoin stash growing and growing and growing with the passage of time, even if the value of it might also fluctuate considerably… so that 4-10 years or beyond down the road, the bitcoin accumulator can look at his bitcoin stash and even his bitcoin stacking history and ongoingly show that his bitcoin stash had been growing larger and larger and larger through the years and at all stages, and surely some coins will have higher costs than others, but still overall, he may well find that large portions of his bitcoin stash are in considerable profits.

There also might not be any major, material or significant difference between some of the coins that he bought at various price points through the years of his accumulation, since throughout his ongoing stacking of bitcoin through the years, he would have not really had much confidence about if the BTC price was going to go up, down or sideways especially while he was in the midst of stacking bitcoin, even though afterwards he can look back and see what happened, and it seems more clear, even though while he was stacking he did not really know if the BTC price would go up, down or sideways,

and in the end perhaps all of his coins that are older are likely well in profits by at these later points of 4-10 years or more down the road, and even the way that he starts to consider his bitcoin holdings has to do with how many bitcoin that he has in total rather than getting distracted into the specifics regarding which coins happen to be more profitable and which coins happen to be less profitable.  By the time, he is trying to figure out what to do, he largely just has to consider how many coins that he has and if he had been ongoingly building his stash, then he likely ended up putting himself in a better place as compared with alternative ways that would have had been gambling the extent to which he might have had been able to accumulate more bitcoin or not..  

For example, if a guy with a $30k per year income had spent 9 years accumulating bitcoin at about a rate of $100 per week, which would have been somewhere in the ballpark of 17% of his annual income, and after 9 years, he had invested right around $47k into bitcoin, and he had accumulated right around 12 BTC, right now, he may well be feeling quite good about his ongoing somewhat consistent investment into bitcoin, since right now he can measure that 12 BTC has a current spot price value of about $1.4 million and more importantly a 200-WMA value of nearly $600k, and so from the 200-WMA value of the stash, he considers that he may well be able to currently withdraw around $60k per year in a sustainable way, which is a doubling of his current, and he would not have to work beyond perhaps merely carrying out accounting duties, and if he were to be worried about withdrawing at a 10% withdrawal rate, he could choose a lower rate and still be able to generate persistent and sustainable income from his bitcoin that is way higher than his current income levels... so he has options, and he should be able to figure out some kind of a meaningful way to benefit from his options whether he thinks he has enough bitcoin or if he thinks that he needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin.

It makes a lot more sense to focus on consistent buying/accumulation, especially if the investor's goal is to build a long term and solid Bitcoin stash. As you advance and get closer to your goal, it wouldn't be bad to reassess and if necessary, make a few adjustments to suit your current financial situation. Buying on DIPs can be a great way to add more sats to one's stash, and I think it's also pretty awesome that you're thinking a out sustainable withdrawal strategies.

Surely not everyone wants to get to sustainable withdrawal strategy status and to be able to have a passive income, whether that income can completely support them or if it would be an income to merely supplement their other income sources.

Having Bitcoin as a lifetime investment is such an amazing idea and you're absolutely right to consider factors like age and health when considering which withdrawal strategies to use. Incremental withdrawals based on established parameters I believe can be quite an effective approach, and it's always a good idea to plan ahead of every situation before taking decisions.

In the beginning of our bitcoin investment, we might be a little lost in terms of what we might be wanting to achieve, since it can be quite unclear how adding bitcoin to our investment portfolio (whether we have any other investments or not), will end up helping us to reach various goals that we might have, so surely each of us likely has to make various assessments along the way to try to figure out where we are at and where we might want to go, which likely includes attempting to assess our 9 individual factors and also monitoring the various 3ays that our 9 individual factors might need to be reassessed as our bitcoin stash presumptively get larger and perhaps as our cashflow management practices also get stronger.

Frequently, a person will have difficulties seeing progress in their investment, even in the first 4 years of investing, unless they were able to front load the investment and even then, any investment, including bitcoin tends to take a while to play out in order fot the value to start to compound upon itself, and surely it helps the more that a person can keep putting in, and surely even now a guy who starts accumulating $200 worthof bitcoin every week may well have difficulties even accumulating 0.5 BTC in the next 10 years.. since $200 per week for 10 years results in $10,400 invested per year and $104k invested over 10 years, which might not even result in half of a bitcoin, so we have to figure out our own level of aggressiveness and reasonableness in terms of our various targets which may well be to invest and accumulate as much as we can and to perhaps tweak what we are doing from time to time,

 and surely after a cycle or two we might start to feel that we are making progress, yet we still might have to continue to accumulate if we might be hoping to get to fuck you status.. and even getting to fuck you status is not guaranteed, even if we do everything perfectly, so we have to figure out ways to balance what we are doing so that we are financially and psychologically prepared for  a variety of outcomes, even if at the same time we may well recognize bitcoin to be amongst the best of investments, if not the best place to put value that is open to anyone and everyone who has a discretionary income.

Your points about the challenges of seeing progress in investments I believe is spot on, especially in the early years. And front loading can in fact be the perfect boost and help in this case, but regardless, one should not expect an instant result because the value would normally take some time to compound. How fast an investment grows depends on the investor's consistency and resilience because the more one invests, the better.

Your example about accumulation $200 worth of Bitcoin every week is a perfect example to illustrate the challenges of reaching a particular milestone. It's also very important to set realistic expectations and be flexible enough to make adjustments in your strategy when/if necessary. Even with a solid plan, it's still very much possible that an investor may not reach 'fuck you status' but if you really get to think about it, you'll see that it's all part of the journey. Bitcoin is a very unique asset and an amazing investment opportunity which is why investors should be financially and psychologically prepared and ready for every possible outcomes.

Guys might attempt to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to invest within their financial parameters, and some guys might ONLY be able to invest 5% of their income into bitcoin and others might be able to invest 25% of their income into bitcoin, so surely the more that they are able to invest, then the more likely that they will be able to sooner enjoy the compounding effects of the value in their investment, and surely compounding effects also have a time factor, and surely sometimes bitcoin will go shooting up in a short period of time, but it also has periods of going down for extended periods of time, and so it can be challenging to really figure out how to apportion our investment whether we try to front load or maybe if we think that the price might be going down we don't do as much frontloading until we are more comfortable with bitcoin's price situation, and surely some guys might end up slowing down on their DCAing into bitcoin, which might not be a correct move.

Even if we look at bitcoin's history in the past 2.5-ish years since November 2022.  We can see that BTC price has largely been going up during that whole time, so frontloading and aggressiveness from the beginning would have had paid off quite well, yet it can still be difficult to know when we are in the midst of it.

Yet the newbie bitcoin accumulators are always faced with a similar dilemma in regards to their hardly having any BTC when they are first starting, so part of their ongoing strategy might also depend on how they start and if they are able to front load into the investment.  Some guys are not able to front load into their bitcoin investment and the best that they can do is merely to regularly invest into bitcoin from their regular income and perhaps attempt to determine that it might be a good idea to hold some value on the side for buying dips that may or may not end up happening.

I have ideas about what I would do in regards to my ongoing bitcoin accumulation, yet guys still have to come to those conclusions for themselves and sometimes there can be plans that have differing emphasis and that are going to lead to different results, yet there is not necessarily any compelling case that one plan is more appropriate than another, without actually knowing all of the guys various personal factors in which he needs to account those factors (and the balances) for himself..

Acknowledging the potentials of Bitcoin while also recognising uncertainties is the right way to approach Bitcoin investment. It's also very crucial for investors to find a balance between investing in Bitcoin and also being prepared for different scenarios, it's mostly about about acknowledging your unique financial situation and making informed decisions that aligns with your financial situation and also staying committed to your long term goals

I agree that there may well not be any perfect way forward and the guy has options, and the extent to which he might invest aggressively or whimpy or the extent to which he might hold money for buying the dip or the extent to which he might want to build up emergency funds and/or reserve funds has quite a bit of flexibility in which no answer is completely correct outside of the guy weighing the various balances, and surely there are some balances that will work out better for his own situation, which probably should include accumulating and building a bitcoin holdings, yet even guys who agree about that might not come to the same conclusions in regards to how whimpy or how aggressive they should be.

Buying bitcoin within our discretionary income, and practicing good cashflow management are surely ways to build up our bitcoin holdings, and we also would likely need to make sure that we are holding a decent proportion of our bitcoin in self-custody.. perhaps 80% or more of it.

This is very correct and knowledgeable. Cashflow management is key. A person may think that his cashflow management is right until the entire system is tested. Cashflow management can be tested by natural exigencies and disasters, sickness and daring health conditions.

Extreme movements in the bitcoin price can also end up testing your cashflow management systems, especially extended period of bitcoin price moving negatively and even staying in the negative for a long time, including your bitcoin portfolio potentially being negative for long periods of time.

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Perhaps some of those folks who falls to this category can be able to fix things up with this strategy and stop being greedy in their investment decisions, and gradually build up their portfolio no matter how little, what matters most is being consistent with their accumulation and HODL for the long term goal.

It is true that sometimes it is better to invest into bitcoin a little bit less aggressively rather than making the mistake of not having enough money to cover your various expenses, and surely sometimes there are surprise expenses that might have had been difficult to detect in advance, yet if we are failing/refusing to make adequate preparations, we likely end up contributing to our own emergencies, since we likely need to have some cushion in our budget, especially if we are trying to be more aggressive in our bitcoin investing, we are likely ONLY in a solid place to be aggressive with our bitcoin in terms of our having already created some budget cushion that not only accounts for emergencies but also accounts for mistakes that we might make.. .and to test our own boundaries and even to figure out how far we might be able to push ourselves without over doing it, we likely need to practice and pay attention and even attempt to be honest with ourselves in regards to some of the risks that we might sometimes be taking when we push aggressively, which might well be signs that we are actually overdoing it, even if the situation does not end up imploding upon us.

[icebar]

You know what you must know is that people don't usually know when to invest, how to invest and when not to invest. Usually, investment is when you are financially stable to make it reality but most people nowadays jump into investments without at least having source of income or something that would give them income when they are in need or lacking moment.
It's true that everyone out there loves investments but getting to know the rules of investment is what most people are lacking, that is why many people faces hard time with their investments or ends up pulling off their investments when their time isn't yet to come.

Na waiting make them say failure to plan is planning to fail, person wey no plan en self well will definitely not get to a greater height ( success). This thing wey you take na the mistake some people dey make this time oo and waiting they cause this mistake na greed and big eye because when they see say there friends don dey grow for Bitcoin investment and those there friends get stable source of income, the person no go want calm down know say Bitcoin investment no be competition, them go rush carry money put and when e red for them, na them go still carry there hand sell off everything and sometimes them fit dey for loss.

That is true, we must learn to place value on our investment if we must last longer and makes good profits from our investment. For instance, doing proper consultation before jumping doing into whatever we would want to do, most time when following how they shares their success stories you would see that there are also some difficult time for them but they wouldn't want to scare new investors rather cover up their bad experiences and share only the good side, but those who doesn't know how the investment works could just go invested with all their life savings with the mindset it would automatically be profited with few months or days.

Although, no doubt because there are all possibilities for such to happened only if they get involved in with altcoin that are more of pump/dump, when they are lucky they could get pumped to cash out good profits from their investments and only those who have been in the cryptocurrencies space can actually achieved such quicker profits.

It is okay to evaluate the value of the investment. But what advice would you give to those who can afford to invest some amount from their income? No one invests with all their money. They invest as much as they can and hope to make a profit. However, it is not bad to invest with all their money if they can maintain it. And they are able to keep their daily expenses, emergency fund and reserve fund. An investor should always invest by deciding the time for how long they actually want to invest. And no matter how many obstacles and dangers come during this time, they will not lose their investment. If someone invests by deciding the time, then it is expected that they will be able to make a profit from their investment.

For example, you invested for a long period of 4 years. But you sold the investment after 2 years for some urgent work. Your mistake there was that you lost the investment because you could not maintain the timing. Just as there is a need to allocate money in investment, there is also a need to allocate time, because time is the most valuable thing.

I share your sentiment but at some certain point I don’t agree with you that investing in Bitcoin with all your money, You’re not meant to invest in Bitcoin with all your money, rather a discretionary income is what you should be investing from, because Bitcoin is a very volatile and unpredictable assets, Having your income is okay and after taking care of your expenses then you have a discretionary income that is were you are meant to be investing your bitcoin and accumulating, and having a good strategy to maintain your investment that is the next thing to be put in place like your emergency funds, reserved funds and probably some floating funds.

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

[Tungbulu]

Frequently, a person will have difficulties seeing progress in their investment, even in the first 4 years of investing, unless they were able to front load the investment and even then, any investment, including bitcoin tends to take a while to play out in order fot the value to start to compound upon itself, and surely it helps the more that a person can keep putting in, and surely even now a guy who starts accumulating $200 worthof bitcoin every week may well have difficulties even accumulating 0.5 BTC in the next 10 years.. since $200 per week for 10 years results in $10,400 invested per year and $104k invested over 10 years, which might not even result in half of a bitcoin, so we have to figure out our own level of aggressiveness and reasonableness in terms of our various targets which may well be to invest and accumulate as much as we can and to perhaps tweak what we are doing from time to time,

 and surely after a cycle or two we might start to feel that we are making progress, yet we still might have to continue to accumulate if we might be hoping to get to fuck you status.. and even getting to fuck you status is not guaranteed, even if we do everything perfectly, so we have to figure out ways to balance what we are doing so that we are financially and psychologically prepared for  a variety of outcomes, even if at the same time we may well recognize bitcoin to be amongst the best of investments, if not the best place to put value that is open to anyone and everyone who has a discretionary income.

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Guys might attempt to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to invest within their financial parameters, and some guys might ONLY be able to invest 5% of their income into bitcoin and others might be able to invest 25% of their income into bitcoin, so surely the more that they are able to invest, then the more likely that they will be able to sooner enjoy the compounding effects of the value in their investment, and surely compounding effects also have a time factor, and surely sometimes bitcoin will go shooting up in a short period of time, but it also has periods of going down for extended periods of time, and so it can be challenging to really figure out how to apportion our investment whether we try to front load or maybe if we think that the price might be going down we don't do as much frontloading until we are more comfortable with bitcoin's price situation, and surely some guys might end up slowing down on their DCAing into bitcoin, which might not be a correct move.

Even if we look at bitcoin's history in the past 2.5-ish years since November 2022.  We can see that BTC price has largely been going up during that whole time, so frontloading and aggressiveness from the beginning would have had paid off quite well, yet it can still be difficult to know when we are in the midst of it.

Yet the newbie bitcoin accumulators are always faced with a similar dilemma in regards to their hardly having any BTC when they are first starting, so part of their ongoing strategy might also depend on how they start and if they are able to front load into the investment.  Some guys are not able to front load into their bitcoin investment and the best that they can do is merely to regularly invest into bitcoin from their regular income and perhaps attempt to determine that it might be a good idea to hold some value on the side for buying dips that may or may not end up happening.

I have ideas about what I would do in regards to my ongoing bitcoin accumulation, yet guys still have to come to those conclusions for themselves and sometimes there can be plans that have differing emphasis and that are going to lead to different results, yet there is not necessarily any compelling case that one plan is more appropriate than another, without actually knowing all of the guys various personal factors in which he needs to account those factors (and the balances) for himself..

That's correct. The ability to invest aggressively into Bitcoin depends on the financial parameters of the individual, and different individuals have different financial situation and capacity to allocate their income towards Bitcoin accumulation. It really doesn't matter the particular percentage or how aggressive one chooses to be, the most important thing is staying consistent, disciplined and focused on the long term goals, as the compounding effects can be quite significant overtime.

When it comes to Bitcoin investment, time factor is indeed super important, the value of Bitcoin can fluctuate wildly making it pretty hard to predict its performance, particularly within the short term.
Front loading can indeed be beneficial, but before doing so, it's always important to consider one's individual financial circumstance, as well as risk tolerance level too. Everyone has their own unique strategy, for some, DCAing into Bitcoin would seem more appropriate, while some might think timing the market or waiting for the appropriate time before they'll invest is pretty much better.

We have indeed witnessed a significant upward trend in the price of Bitcoin within the past 2.5 years, which has really made front loading and aggressiveness quite a rewarding approach. Although,  due to the unpredictable nature of the market, it's not always possible to know for sure when we are in the midst of a trend, when it starts or when it'll end, and those who are relatively new to Bitcoin are often faced with the challenge of having a small stack to begin with. Their strategy is fully dependent on their starting point, ability to front load and lastly, their risk tolerance level.

I also agree very much on your point that each person needs to determine their own unique plan based on their financial and psychological circumstances, their financial goals and risk tolerance. There's no strategy that'll match with everyone's financial situation and different plans can lead to different results, so in the long run, it's completely up to each individual to weigh their options, carefully consider the options and make informed decisions about their Bitcoin investment strategy.

[Gost ms]

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

Which method you will invest in is entirely up to you. Whether you will adopt the lump sum investment method or buy DIP or you will adopt the DCA method is entirely up to you. What is meant by Bitcoin lump sum is an investment method, it is not something of Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin through lump sum method.

DCA is an investment method, it is a very simple and very good investment method among all investment methods. You cannot reduce your risk by investing through the DCA method. By adopting the DCA method, you can buy at any price at any time. Continue to buy continuously by adopting the DCA method and hold Bitcoin for a long time

[Merit.s]

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

Which method you will invest in is entirely up to you. Whether you will adopt the lump sum investment method or buy DIP or you will adopt the DCA method is entirely up to you . What is meant by Bitcoin lump sum is an investment method, it is not something of Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin through lump sum method.

DCA is an investment method, it is a very simple and very good investment method among all investment methods. You cannot reduce your risk by investing through the DCA method. By adopting the DCA method, you can buy at any price at any time. Continue to buy continuously by adopting the DCA method and hold Bitcoin for a long time

Buying the dip is not a good strategy of accumulating bitcoin for a low coiner and no coiner because it slows the pace of increasing your bitcoin portfolio overtime. Waiting is never a strategy because it will make you to lose out from the opportunities in the market and you keep waiting for the dip that you do not know if it will come or not.

This is why a new investor cannot use any accumulation strategy but stick to DCA weekly/monthly purchases and keep it ongoing for 4-10 years and above so that he can gradually increase the size of his bitcoin portfolio overtime for the future. It's good that we choose the right strategy when investing in bitcoin that will enable us progress fast in our bitcoin journey than choosing a strategy that will make us end up having little bitcoin in future because we wanted to buy cheaper.

Buying cheaper shouldn't be our main focus but reaching our bitcoin target should be the major focus so that it can motivate you to continue buying bitcoin ongoingly, persistently and consistently irrespective of the price of bitcoin till we reach our bitcoin target in future.

However, mixing the three accumulation strategies is the best and will yield a better result in future. This is why as your DCA is ongoing, you need to set up a reserve funds which you can use to buy when there is a dip. You can also lump sum whenever, you have extra cash that you are not expecting and have no budget for it.

[Cipherpz]

A reality- DCA strategy, patience for real value, starting small, prioritizing, making decisions based on your financial situation, risk-taking ability, and future plans are part of more progressive thinking. From an emergency fund, we can protect ourselves from risk and capital loss. Although it may seem very difficult to run these two paths of Bitcoin savings together, the DCA strategy, starting small, gradually and as needed, can be easy, safe and become. This thread of yours is not just an initial idea, but a guideline for us beginners, where people can maintain a balance between their income, expenses, savings and investments without any hesitation.
This is not just financial advice, but a planned thought, balanced guidance for new investors, but a message of attitude change. First of all, how much money the emergency fund should be depends on your income, it can be any tie weekly or monthly. Start both emergency fund and Bitcoin investment together. In this way, you will be protected for the future and can also build wealth gradually. A person can build an emergency fund as soon as they start investing in Bitcoin or any other investment. Investing without building an emergency fund is a kind of risk that cannot be avoided. It is quite progressive thinking.
Financial discipline is actually a habit, and habits are developed gradually over time. Budgeting means limitations, but it is actually a path to freedom because you are preparing yourself for the future. It is a way to move one step closer to the future. If you don’t start saving today, you will be in trouble in the future. This part of us bears the cost of our mental peace and happiness powerfully.

Even if we cannot avoid our necessary expenses today, they will return tomorrow — this applies not only to everyday expenses, but to many aspects of life.
Financially, ignoring necessary expenses means putting your future stability at risk.

DCA is not just an investment strategy, it is a reflection of an attitude that shows that you are not trying to survive the market, but yourself in a financially unstable market. This is a really big lesson for beginners. At the beginning of investment, people get worried about quick profits, which later becomes a cause of disappointment. Both BTC savings and security can be achieved in small steps without paying attention to market fluctuations.
A deep philosophy that applies to personal development, savings, investments, and even other areas of life.
In fact, the seed of creating the right mindset. In certain situations, it can be a tool to reduce risk. In the light of your own financial situation, risk-taking ability, and future plans, it can be easy and safe to make decisions on emergency funds, Bitcoin savings, and DCA strategies, starting now, and diversifying as needed.
A regular investor becomes more aware of money savings, market conditions, and long-term profits.
Many people think, "I can't save a lot of money, so I won't start." This is a wrong mindset.
Rather, I will do what I can regularly, which will automatically move you forward to achieving big goals. This is the foundation of success.
Even if you can't do something big all at once, if you save, spend time, or put in a little effort every day or every month, it becomes a big achievement in the long run.

[Tonimez]

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

Which method you will invest in is entirely up to you. Whether you will adopt the lump sum investment method or buy DIP or you will adopt the DCA method is entirely up to you. What is meant by Bitcoin lump sum is an investment method, it is not something of Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin through lump sum method.

DCA is an investment method, it is a very simple and very good investment method among all investment methods. You cannot reduce your risk by investing through the DCA method. By adopting the DCA method, you can buy at any price at any time. Continue to buy continuously by adopting the DCA method and hold Bitcoin for a long time

We are all aware that everyone has the right to choose an investment method of his choice. But sometimes our choices are not always the best. When you allow a beginner do everything as it pleases him, it may get to a point when he will see you who introduced him into the bitcoin exercise as his enemy when he finally makes mistakes and runs series of losses. Bitcoin investment strategies are open to everyone but the DCA strategy seems to be the most reliable and accomodates everyone both big and small. When a person has a stable income, he knows his average pay on every payday and maximise it through any possible means. To map out an investment fund, someone needs to have a discretionary income from which he also set aside a percentage which would cover for emergency situations called emergency funds.

This will allow for longer holding and also relief the stress of other life responsibilities on the investor.

[Cossyblack]

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

Which method you will invest in is entirely up to you. Whether you will adopt the lump sum investment method or buy DIP or you will adopt the DCA method is entirely up to you. What is meant by Bitcoin lump sum is an investment method, it is not something of Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin through lump sum method.

DCA is an investment method, it is a very simple and very good investment method among all investment methods. You cannot reduce your risk by investing through the DCA method. By adopting the DCA method, you can buy at any price at any time. Continue to buy continuously by adopting the DCA method and hold Bitcoin for a long time

You are right,  DCA is not the only strategy available that can be used in accumulating Bitcoin but it is the most convenient & used method so far. Investors prefer using DCA strategy because it keeps them to remain focus also improve there consistency in accumulating Bitcoin without difficulties. Other methods (Dip & Lump sum) are also good in accumulating Bitcoin too  but DCA strategy is simply the best. Making used of DCA Method also enable an investor to buys Bitcoin regardless of the price without timing the market regardless unlike the others that slows down an investor accumulation speed. DCA also reduces the risks and also makes it easier to invest in Bitcoin. With his discretional income ready and while applying DCA strategy,an investor can simply start accumulating Bitcoin consistently without stressing. DCA strategy is highly recommended for any investor that wishes to invest in Bitcoin because of its flexibility.

[Yorubek]

It is true that sometimes it is better to invest into bitcoin a little bit less aggressively rather than making the mistake of not having enough money to cover your various expenses, and surely sometimes there are surprise expenses that might have had been difficult to detect in advance, yet if we are failing/refusing to make adequate preparations, we likely end up contributing to our own emergencies, since we likely need to have some cushion in our budget, especially if we are trying to be more aggressive in our bitcoin investing, we are likely ONLY in a solid place to be aggressive with our bitcoin in terms of our having already created some budget cushion that not only accounts for emergencies but also accounts for mistakes that we might make.. .and to test our own boundaries and even to figure out how far we might be able to push ourselves without over doing it, we likely need to practice and pay attention and even attempt to be honest with ourselves in regards to some of the risks that we might sometimes be taking when we push aggressively, which might well be signs that we are actually overdoing it, even if the situation does not end up imploding upon us.

Right, Before investing in Bitcoin, you should take the time to understand and plan your investment by keeping at least a one-year breakup fund. It can take at least four to five years for an investment to be successful. Over time, the desires and aspirations of every person and their position keep changing and during this change, several decisions have to be made. not all decisions of every person are always successful, but this is not the case. Many things can be lost from life through some wrong decisions. not only an emergency fund, but also a backup fund should be kept because only wrong people exist.

Since Bitcoin is expensive and risky, it is possible to reduce the risk by planning an investment using the DCA method. Just as money is needed to invest, a person needs willpower. It is not possible to invest in the DCA method only if you have money or desire. Anyone can invest in the DCA method, such as the upper class, lower class, and middle class. But for the lower and middle class, collecting Bitcoin using the DCA method is an easy way because you do not have to make big investment decisions, it becomes much easier to invest a certain amount of money every week or month, which reduces mental stress a lot. If a person follows the DCA and collects Bitcoin patiently four to five years, he can build strong financial security circle.

[Cipherpz]

So first of all, I think every investor should kill the traders spirit which gets you to follow the chart always and also keeps you waiting for dips to invest.

I agree that if we are in our accumulation phase of our bitcoin investment, we likely need to focus on various ongoing buying ways to get bitcoin, and selling bitcoin in order to accumulate more seems like a gambling approach to bitcoin and filled with too many uncertainties, since if our goal involves accumulating more bitcoin we need to attempt to stay focused on ongoing buying of bitcoin in various ways, and sure at some point it might start to seem that we don't necessarily need to continue to buy bitcoin, even though at some point we will likely will need to calculate the extent to which we need to buy more bitcoin or perhaps transition into either a holding phase or maybe at some point we just buy on dips, since we mostly are getting close to having enough or more than enough bitcoin, and of course, I consider the goal to be entering into sustainable withdrawal and/or having bitcoin as a lifetime investment rather than either selling out of it or overly depleting it, unless a person might be close to death or have some age and/or health considerations that motivates needs to sell larger portions of bitcoin rather than more incrementalist ways of price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawals (selling of small amounts based on established parameters).

That's right. During the accumulation stage, selling is a totally bad option, even if the investor's intention is to buy later when the price is much lower in order to maximise profit, this is a trader's mindset and a totally bad idea considering the volatile nature of the market. It's impossible to predict what the market's next move would be and you could end up missing out on more potential gains while waiting for a dip that may likely not come, that's not a reliable strategy at all and anyone doing this could end up in losses, especially when the person is still in his accumulation stage.

Well yes.  The loss of selling bitcoin at various points when a guy is still supposed to be trying to accumulate bitcoin comes from both taking the chances that the BTC prices goes down, but also potentially losing opportunities to continue to ongoingly build up his bitcoin holdings in a sure way (even if the value of his coins are ongoingly fluctuating), which is continued buying… and surely, a person could get lucky with some attempts to trade his bitcoin, yet it is likely not going to make as much difference to his whole stacking experience in terms of actually building his bitcoin rather than taking chances with it as just staying focused on ongoing, consistent, regular,  persistent and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin, which suredly contributes to the bitcoin stash growing and growing and growing with the passage of time, even if the value of it might also fluctuate considerably… so that 4-10 years or beyond down the road, the bitcoin accumulator can look at his bitcoin stash and even his bitcoin stacking history and ongoingly show that his bitcoin stash had been growing larger and larger and larger through the years and at all stages, and surely some coins will have higher costs than others, but still overall, he may well find that large portions of his bitcoin stash are in considerable profits.

There also might not be any major, material or significant difference between some of the coins that he bought at various price points through the years of his accumulation, since throughout his ongoing stacking of bitcoin through the years, he would have not really had much confidence about if the BTC price was going to go up, down or sideways especially while he was in the midst of stacking bitcoin, even though afterwards he can look back and see what happened, and it seems more clear, even though while he was stacking he did not really know if the BTC price would go up, down or sideways,

and in the end perhaps all of his coins that are older are likely well in profits by at these later points of 4-10 years or more down the road, and even the way that he starts to consider his bitcoin holdings has to do with how many bitcoin that he has in total rather than getting distracted into the specifics regarding which coins happen to be more profitable and which coins happen to be less profitable.  By the time, he is trying to figure out what to do, he largely just has to consider how many coins that he has and if he had been ongoingly building his stash, then he likely ended up putting himself in a better place as compared with alternative ways that would have had been gambling the extent to which he might have had been able to accumulate more bitcoin or not..  

For example, if a guy with a $30k per year income had spent 9 years accumulating bitcoin at about a rate of $100 per week, which would have been somewhere in the ballpark of 17% of his annual income, and after 9 years, he had invested right around $47k into bitcoin, and he had accumulated right around 12 BTC, right now, he may well be feeling quite good about his ongoing somewhat consistent investment into bitcoin, since right now he can measure that 12 BTC has a current spot price value of about $1.4 million and more importantly a 200-WMA value of nearly $600k, and so from the 200-WMA value of the stash, he considers that he may well be able to currently withdraw around $60k per year in a sustainable way, which is a doubling of his current, and he would not have to work beyond perhaps merely carrying out accounting duties, and if he were to be worried about withdrawing at a 10% withdrawal rate, he could choose a lower rate and still be able to generate persistent and sustainable income from his bitcoin that is way higher than his current income levels... so he has options, and he should be able to figure out some kind of a meaningful way to benefit from his options whether he thinks he has enough bitcoin or if he thinks that he needs to continue to accumulate bitcoin.

It makes a lot more sense to focus on consistent buying/accumulation, especially if the investor's goal is to build a long term and solid Bitcoin stash. As you advance and get closer to your goal, it wouldn't be bad to reassess and if necessary, make a few adjustments to suit your current financial situation. Buying on DIPs can be a great way to add more sats to one's stash, and I think it's also pretty awesome that you're thinking a out sustainable withdrawal strategies.

Surely not everyone wants to get to sustainable withdrawal strategy status and to be able to have a passive income, whether that income can completely support them or if it would be an income to merely supplement their other income sources.

Having Bitcoin as a lifetime investment is such an amazing idea and you're absolutely right to consider factors like age and health when considering which withdrawal strategies to use. Incremental withdrawals based on established parameters I believe can be quite an effective approach, and it's always a good idea to plan ahead of every situation before taking decisions.

In the beginning of our bitcoin investment, we might be a little lost in terms of what we might be wanting to achieve, since it can be quite unclear how adding bitcoin to our investment portfolio (whether we have any other investments or not), will end up helping us to reach various goals that we might have, so surely each of us likely has to make various assessments along the way to try to figure out where we are at and where we might want to go, which likely includes attempting to assess our 9 individual factors and also monitoring the various 3ays that our 9 individual factors might need to be reassessed as our bitcoin stash presumptively get larger and perhaps as our cashflow management practices also get stronger.

Frequently, a person will have difficulties seeing progress in their investment, even in the first 4 years of investing, unless they were able to front load the investment and even then, any investment, including bitcoin tends to take a while to play out in order fot the value to start to compound upon itself, and surely it helps the more that a person can keep putting in, and surely even now a guy who starts accumulating $200 worthof bitcoin every week may well have difficulties even accumulating 0.5 BTC in the next 10 years.. since $200 per week for 10 years results in $10,400 invested per year and $104k invested over 10 years, which might not even result in half of a bitcoin, so we have to figure out our own level of aggressiveness and reasonableness in terms of our various targets which may well be to invest and accumulate as much as we can and to perhaps tweak what we are doing from time to time,

 and surely after a cycle or two we might start to feel that we are making progress, yet we still might have to continue to accumulate if we might be hoping to get to fuck you status.. and even getting to fuck you status is not guaranteed, even if we do everything perfectly, so we have to figure out ways to balance what we are doing so that we are financially and psychologically prepared for  a variety of outcomes, even if at the same time we may well recognize bitcoin to be amongst the best of investments, if not the best place to put value that is open to anyone and everyone who has a discretionary income.

Your points about the challenges of seeing progress in investments I believe is spot on, especially in the early years. And front loading can in fact be the perfect boost and help in this case, but regardless, one should not expect an instant result because the value would normally take some time to compound. How fast an investment grows depends on the investor's consistency and resilience because the more one invests, the better.

Your example about accumulation $200 worth of Bitcoin every week is a perfect example to illustrate the challenges of reaching a particular milestone. It's also very important to set realistic expectations and be flexible enough to make adjustments in your strategy when/if necessary. Even with a solid plan, it's still very much possible that an investor may not reach 'fuck you status' but if you really get to think about it, you'll see that it's all part of the journey. Bitcoin is a very unique asset and an amazing investment opportunity which is why investors should be financially and psychologically prepared and ready for every possible outcomes.

Guys might attempt to invest into bitcoin as aggressively as they are able to invest within their financial parameters, and some guys might ONLY be able to invest 5% of their income into bitcoin and others might be able to invest 25% of their income into bitcoin, so surely the more that they are able to invest, then the more likely that they will be able to sooner enjoy the compounding effects of the value in their investment, and surely compounding effects also have a time factor, and surely sometimes bitcoin will go shooting up in a short period of time, but it also has periods of going down for extended periods of time, and so it can be challenging to really figure out how to apportion our investment whether we try to front load or maybe if we think that the price might be going down we don't do as much frontloading until we are more comfortable with bitcoin's price situation, and surely some guys might end up slowing down on their DCAing into bitcoin, which might not be a correct move.

Even if we look at bitcoin's history in the past 2.5-ish years since November 2022.  We can see that BTC price has largely been going up during that whole time, so frontloading and aggressiveness from the beginning would have had paid off quite well, yet it can still be difficult to know when we are in the midst of it.

Yet the newbie bitcoin accumulators are always faced with a similar dilemma in regards to their hardly having any BTC when they are first starting, so part of their ongoing strategy might also depend on how they start and if they are able to front load into the investment.  Some guys are not able to front load into their bitcoin investment and the best that they can do is merely to regularly invest into bitcoin from their regular income and perhaps attempt to determine that it might be a good idea to hold some value on the side for buying dips that may or may not end up happening.

I have ideas about what I would do in regards to my ongoing bitcoin accumulation, yet guys still have to come to those conclusions for themselves and sometimes there can be plans that have differing emphasis and that are going to lead to different results, yet there is not necessarily any compelling case that one plan is more appropriate than another, without actually knowing all of the guys various personal factors in which he needs to account those factors (and the balances) for himself..

Acknowledging the potentials of Bitcoin while also recognising uncertainties is the right way to approach Bitcoin investment. It's also very crucial for investors to find a balance between investing in Bitcoin and also being prepared for different scenarios, it's mostly about about acknowledging your unique financial situation and making informed decisions that aligns with your financial situation and also staying committed to your long term goals

I agree that there may well not be any perfect way forward and the guy has options, and the extent to which he might invest aggressively or whimpy or the extent to which he might hold money for buying the dip or the extent to which he might want to build up emergency funds and/or reserve funds has quite a bit of flexibility in which no answer is completely correct outside of the guy weighing the various balances, and surely there are some balances that will work out better for his own situation, which probably should include accumulating and building a bitcoin holdings, yet even guys who agree about that might not come to the same conclusions in regards to how whimpy or how aggressive they should be.

Buying bitcoin within our discretionary income, and practicing good cashflow management are surely ways to build up our bitcoin holdings, and we also would likely need to make sure that we are holding a decent proportion of our bitcoin in self-custody.. perhaps 80% or more of it.

This is very correct and knowledgeable. Cashflow management is key. A person may think that his cashflow management is right until the entire system is tested. Cashflow management can be tested by natural exigencies and disasters, sickness and daring health conditions.

Extreme movements in the bitcoin price can also end up testing your cashflow management systems, especially extended period of bitcoin price moving negatively and even staying in the negative for a long time, including your bitcoin portfolio potentially being negative for long periods of time.

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Perhaps some of those folks who falls to this category can be able to fix things up with this strategy and stop being greedy in their investment decisions, and gradually build up their portfolio no matter how little, what matters most is being consistent with their accumulation and HODL for the long term goal.

It is true that sometimes it is better to invest into bitcoin a little bit less aggressively rather than making the mistake of not having enough money to cover your various expenses, and surely sometimes there are surprise expenses that might have had been difficult to detect in advance, yet if we are failing/refusing to make adequate preparations, we likely end up contributing to our own emergencies, since we likely need to have some cushion in our budget, especially if we are trying to be more aggressive in our bitcoin investing, we are likely ONLY in a solid place to be aggressive with our bitcoin in terms of our having already created some budget cushion that not only accounts for emergencies but also accounts for mistakes that we might make.. .and to test our own boundaries and even to figure out how far we might be able to push ourselves without over doing it, we likely need to practice and pay attention and even attempt to be honest with ourselves in regards to some of the risks that we might sometimes be taking when we push aggressively, which might well be signs that we are actually overdoing it, even if the situation does not end up imploding upon us.

"Time" is very important for the effect of compounding. The price of Bitcoin can suddenly fall and then rise. By investing systematically, knowing the position of the financial market with certainty, you will have the ability to deal with market risks, even if it becomes difficult and challenging at times. When investing, it is important to consider personal financial situation, trends and long-term investment, but these are not evidence and evidence, and informed decisions are the foundation of a stable investment strategy.

[Derekfunds]

You know what you must know is that people don't usually know when to invest, how to invest and when not to invest. Usually, investment is when you are financially stable to make it reality but most people nowadays jump into investments without at least having source of income or something that would give them income when they are in need or lacking moment.
It's true that everyone out there loves investments but getting to know the rules of investment is what most people are lacking, that is why many people faces hard time with their investments or ends up pulling off their investments when their time isn't yet to come.

Na waiting make them say failure to plan is planning to fail, person wey no plan en self well will definitely not get to a greater height ( success). This thing wey you take na the mistake some people dey make this time oo and waiting they cause this mistake na greed and big eye because when they see say there friends don dey grow for Bitcoin investment and those there friends get stable source of income, the person no go want calm down know say Bitcoin investment no be competition, them go rush carry money put and when e red for them, na them go still carry there hand sell off everything and sometimes them fit dey for loss.

That is true, we must learn to place value on our investment if we must last longer and makes good profits from our investment. For instance, doing proper consultation before jumping doing into whatever we would want to do, most time when following how they shares their success stories you would see that there are also some difficult time for them but they wouldn't want to scare new investors rather cover up their bad experiences and share only the good side, but those who doesn't know how the investment works could just go invested with all their life savings with the mindset it would automatically be profited with few months or days.

Although, no doubt because there are all possibilities for such to happened only if they get involved in with altcoin that are more of pump/dump, when they are lucky they could get pumped to cash out good profits from their investments and only those who have been in the cryptocurrencies space can actually achieved such quicker profits.

It is okay to evaluate the value of the investment. But what advice would you give to those who can afford to invest some amount from their income? No one invests with all their money. They invest as much as they can and hope to make a profit. However, it is not bad to invest with all their money if they can maintain it. And they are able to keep their daily expenses, emergency fund and reserve fund. An investor should always invest by deciding the time for how long they actually want to invest. And no matter how many obstacles and dangers come during this time, they will not lose their investment. If someone invests by deciding the time, then it is expected that they will be able to make a profit from their investment.

For example, you invested for a long period of 4 years. But you sold the investment after 2 years for some urgent work. Your mistake there was that you lost the investment because you could not maintain the timing. Just as there is a need to allocate money in investment, there is also a need to allocate time, because time is the most valuable thing.

I share your sentiment but at some certain point I don’t agree with you that investing in Bitcoin with all your money, You’re not meant to invest in Bitcoin with all your money, rather a discretionary income is what you should be investing from, because Bitcoin is a very volatile and unpredictable assets, Having your income is okay and after taking care of your expenses then you have a discretionary income that is were you are meant to be investing your bitcoin and accumulating, and having a good strategy to maintain your investment that is the next thing to be put in place like your emergency funds, reserved funds and probably some floating funds.

If an investor wants to hold his entire savings in Bitcoin, that may be acceptable. However, in this case, he must invest with a long-term plan. After considering that he is not hindered from his investment for any other reason than it may be a good idea if he holds a large part of it in Bitcoin. But if there is no situation to invest Lump Sum in Bitcoin, then he can take the DCA method. In this case, he can accumulate Bitcoin regularly with his discretionary income. If the investor follows DCA, he can increase the amount of Bitcoin he has accumulated without financial stress and risk. In the case of DCA, if the investor is able to form an emergency fund along with his investment in Bitcoin, then he can accumulate more bitcoin.

I totally disagree with you mate the fact that Bitcoin investment is promising doesn't mean someone should use his or her entire income to invest in Bitcoin if that is what you meant by entire holding. That is a very wrong approach to Bitcoin and it is not advisable to do such because you will definitely sell at loss or premature and all this boils down to lack of Bitcoin investment knowledge because if you have the basic knowledge of Bitcoin and understand how it works you can never for one day think or try this as that is a financial mistake that might result to a lifetime regrettion. 

[Shadiq]

Which method you will invest in is entirely up to you. Whether you will adopt the lump sum investment method or buy DIP or you will adopt the DCA method is entirely up to you. What is meant by Bitcoin lump sum is an investment method, it is not something of Bitcoin. You can buy Bitcoin through lump sum method.

DCA is an investment method, it is a very simple and very good investment method among all investment methods. You cannot reduce your risk by investing through the DCA method. By adopting the DCA method, you can buy at any price at any time. Continue to buy continuously by adopting the DCA method and hold Bitcoin for a long time

Yes, you have complete freedom to decide your investment strategy. But is it the right move for a new investor to adopt DIP and lump sum investment strategy? I doubt that a new investor will be able to survive in the long run by adopting DIP strategy and lump sum investment strategy.

I would never advise a new investor to invest in DIP strategy, even in lump sum investment strategy. The main reason for this is the possibility of not being able to keep calm during a market decline due to delay in investment. You have to wait to enter the market at a certain price which only wastes your time and delays in entering the investment. Even for a new investor, it is normal to panic during market volatility, especially when he has invested a lot of money.

Therefore, DCA strategy is the best for a new investor. To start investing in DCA strategy, you don't need deep knowledge, you don't have to wait for a specific period of time, you don't need a lot of money, the possibility of panicking due to small investments is very low and the DCA strategy reduces market volatility to some extent. Even as your portfolio grows larger, you will become an experienced investor where there is no possibility of panicking due to market volatility, because you will already be familiar with the market.

[cxtreenal]

"Time" is very important for the effect of compounding. The price of Bitcoin can suddenly fall and then rise. By investing systematically, knowing the position of the financial market with certainty, you will have the ability to deal with market risks, even if it becomes difficult and challenging at times. When investing, it is important to consider personal financial situation, trends and long-term investment, but these are not evidence and evidence, and informed decisions are the foundation of a stable investment strategy.

Considering the importance of time you will plan your investment in such a way that it can give you great results in the long. You should continue to save regardless of price fluctuations in Bitcoin investment. Keep yourself in tune with the market situation. You should only consider Bitcoin without considering the compounding effect. If you have a significant amount of floating cash and substantial income is added to your portfolio every week/every month. Then you will start Bitcoin without any confussion. Personal financial capacity does not always remain.
You should ensure proper use of time when you have the amount of money available.