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September 11, 2025, 09:56:35 PM |
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I don't know how left over funds after one has made all his expenses for the time being which is discretionary income and fund thats been kept for emergency or any unexpected stuff which is reserved funds will be the same,
Discretionary income, emergency fund and reserve fund are 3 different things but you are getting it complicated you still tag emergency fund and reserve fund as thesame thing i think they are two different things, emergency fund has it purpose when it comes to Bitcoin investment reserve fund also serve on a different purpose. Emergency fund is there to care of real emergencies when they happened to prevent you from selling soon when the unexpected occur, while the reserve fund is there to accumulate Bitcoin expecially when there is a decline in price one can use his reserve fund to accumulate more Bitcoin so stop seeing emergency fund and reserve fund to the same. It is necessary to be aware of these issues, all types of funds should not be mixed together, rather each fund has a different purpose, and all those funds should be used according to that purpose, if any fund is used outside the purpose, it can only create problems. For example, emergency funds are created only to deal with unexpected financial situations so that your Bitcoin investment is protected in the long term, on the other hand, reserve funds are kept to take advantage of the opportunity to buy DIPs if Bitcoin drops slightly due to volatility, but in this case, if you mix up the purposes of these funds, and later buy Bitcoin DIPs with emergency funds, then how will you handle that unexpected situation if your financial unexpected situation comes to the fore? So you must be aware of these issues, and each fund should be used according to their purpose, then it is possible to keep the investment safe in the long term.
Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. There could be times when emergency fund can be used in the place of discretion fund when there is no discretion but that doesn't mean that it will remain permanent but these only happens when there is a financial difficulty or mismanagement of fund or when our source of income are whimpy. But However I don't mean to say yhat it is advisable to misplace the usage of each of this funds but we just need to know that sometimea we just need to be flexible in our investment approach in other not to follow a wrong investment approach expecialy anything that will leed to selling of Bitcoin when our target has not been met.
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September 11, 2025, 11:17:31 PM |
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Not necessarily bro, it's very fine to keep it in a financial system that doesn't experience much volatility, it would've been best in Bitcoin but the volatility is a great problem now.
For people with currencies that crashes against the dollar, they can keep them in stable coins like USDT to reduce the impact of inflation on it or you can even place it in the save option in a microfinance Bank app so it's there getting you little profits while you can break it anytime emergency comes.
If you convert your emergency fund into Bitcoin or buy Bitcoin with the money from your emergency fund. If an emergency situation arises, do you mean that you will sell that Bitcoin to deal with the emergency situation? If you mean something like that, then this is a completely wrong decision. Because suppose you have bought Bitcoin with your emergency fund money. If your financial crisis shows up and the Bitcoin market falls. Then where will you get the money to deal with the financial disaster? For all these reasons, it is never right to keep an emergency fund anywhere, it is always better to keep an emergency fund in cash. I think you actually got the point right, but my question is that how does someone try to convert his emergency or reserved funds into Bitcoin, then I must say that fellow doesn’t know what investing in Bitcoin is all about and also having a good strategy to sustain our Bitcoin investment, by the way we’re not meant to invest in Bitcoin with our emergency funds or money for our expenses like our weekly or monthly income money, those are obviously not meant for buying and investing in Bitcoin, what is needed to invest in Bitcoin is a discretionary income, so we don’t mess up our Bitcoin portfolio which is basically meant for Bitcoin, and again emergency funds are not meant for finding solutions to our financial crisis, that is why we basically have a reserved funds, I don’t know if you have heard of reserved funds, that is a money that is meant to solve little details of our financial crisis should in case we find ourselves in an unforeseen financial situation, until we find our financial sustainability back, but we would have to start them 3 months into our bitcoin investment. Most people never fully think about the mental side of investing.. I feel like a lot of times, people do not realize that mixing emergency funds with Bitcoin is not just about money, it is about stress and decision making. Imagine a situation where you bought Bitcoin with emergency money and life throws a challenge at you.. The panic alone can make you sell at the absolute worst time, wiping out both your investment and your sense of security.. Another thing that often gets overlooked is opportunity cost. When your emergency funds are tied up in Bitcoin, you are missing the chance to act fast on smaller, safer opportunities that could stabilize your finances, like paying down high interest debt or covering unexpected expenses without stress.. Reserved funds exist exactly for that reason: to give you breathing space while your Bitcoin stack grows quietly in the background.. Also, I like to think about this in terms of energy and focus.. Having emergency money untouched means your brain is not constantly stressed about what if... That mental freedom alone makes you a better investor, because you can actually think well instead of reacting emotionally to every market dip…. And finally, starting Bitcoin investment with discretionary income, not with money meant for life’s essentials, teaches discipline. It’s a habit building exercise that protects both your financial health and your investment mindset…
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Joeboy
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September 12, 2025, 12:25:28 AM |
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I don't know how left over funds after one has made all his expenses for the time being which is discretionary income and fund thats been kept for emergency or any unexpected stuff which is reserved funds will be the same,
Discretionary income, emergency fund and reserve fund are 3 different things but you are getting it complicated you still tag emergency fund and reserve fund as thesame thing i think they are two different things, emergency fund has it purpose when it comes to Bitcoin investment reserve fund also serve on a different purpose. Emergency fund is there to care of real emergencies when they happened to prevent you from selling soon when the unexpected occur, while the reserve fund is there to accumulate Bitcoin expecially when there is a decline in price one can use his reserve fund to accumulate more Bitcoin so stop seeing emergency fund and reserve fund to the same. It is necessary to be aware of these issues, all types of funds should not be mixed together, rather each fund has a different purpose, and all those funds should be used according to that purpose, if any fund is used outside the purpose, it can only create problems. For example, emergency funds are created only to deal with unexpected financial situations so that your Bitcoin investment is protected in the long term, on the other hand, reserve funds are kept to take advantage of the opportunity to buy DIPs if Bitcoin drops slightly due to volatility, but in this case, if you mix up the purposes of these funds, and later buy Bitcoin DIPs with emergency funds, then how will you handle that unexpected situation if your financial unexpected situation comes to the fore? So you must be aware of these issues, and each fund should be used according to their purpose, then it is possible to keep the investment safe in the long term.
Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. What you said has totally defeated the idea of one being disciplined or having a plan in the first place.... The whole idea of separating discretionary income from your emergency funds and evn reserve funds is so that each one has its own purpose. If we start mixing them up, it simply shows disorganization, weak planning and poor cashflow management.....If a newbie happens to enters into Bitcoin investments with what you said, honestly speaking that newbie wouldn't even last a year in his/her Bitcoin journey coz he may end up using his discretionary income for emergency situation or even channelling it to his reserve holding. Of course emergency can happen, but then that's why building a proper emergency fund outside ur Bitcoin is very very important. It creates a buffer, so you wouldn't need to touch your Bitcoin when life takes an unexpected turn.
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September 12, 2025, 03:17:34 AM |
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What you said has totally defeated the idea of one being disciplined or having a plan in the first place.... The whole idea of separating discretionary income from your emergency funds and evn reserve funds is so that each one has its own purpose. If we start mixing them up, it simply shows disorganization, weak planning and poor cashflow management.....If a newbie happens to enters into Bitcoin investments with what you said, honestly speaking that newbie wouldn't even last a year in his/her Bitcoin journey coz he may end up using his discretionary income for emergency situation or even channelling it to his reserve holding.
Of course emergency can happen, but then that's why building a proper emergency fund outside ur Bitcoin is very very important. It creates a buffer, so you wouldn't need to touch your Bitcoin when life takes an unexpected turn.
If you always rely on emergency fund then it will never be the right decision. Because emergency fund is the last resource to protect your holdings. If your emergency fund is the first and last resource then it will never be the right decision. It is never right to take money from emergency fund for small financial crisis. You can divide your funds into 3 levels. Such as cash, reserve fund, emergency fund. If you build your funds in this way then it will be much better for you. For example you can take money from cash to deal with small financial crisis, you can take money from reserve fund to deal with big financial crisis and finally if you do not have any money then you can take money from your emergency fund. You cannot build 3 things at the same time. So first you have to build an emergency fund and after that you have to build it gradually. But if you delay investing to create this fund, it will never be the right decision. You will have to create the funds along with the investment.
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September 12, 2025, 06:08:53 AM |
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You've raise quite a solid point here. I agree that it can be pretty difficult for folks who just started out their financial journey to know how everything works, especially when they're just building their backup funds, that thing line between the emergency fund and the reserve fund can really get blurry. Theoretically, it's way more easier to distinguish between them, but practically, the unpredictability of life can sometimes mess with those neat desperations. Several factors such as unexpected expenses, underestimations, and even an irregular cashflow could potentially force someone to tap into funds that initially intended to keep away purely for actual emergencies. But yeah, it's always way more better to dip into an emergency fund than the actual investment. Bitcoin might be liquid, but it's also very volatile too, and if one sells during a downturn simply because you need some money and don't have any backup fund, even if you manage to have that financial need covered, you're also locking in a potential loss which of course would be causing a disruption to your long term strategy. And that is why the emergency fund should be readily available at all time because it acts as some sort of a shield to protect your Bitcoin stash. I would say that it is a good idea for beginners to start little below their financial capacity in order to have a larger backup funds and emergency funds due to situations like this. Underestimations can be very stressful to deal with and could even go beyond the emergency funds to cause a premature sales of part of your bitcoin stash. As a beginner, you can invest below your actual capacity in your early days in order to have time to plan your cashflow management skills. Any miscalculation or underestimation that made anyone dip hands into his emergency funds can also lead into dipping hands into your bitcoin stash so I would advise newbies to avoid greed and concentrate first on how to secure their accumulated bitcoin first. Let's say a person has a discretionary income of $500 monthly, it could be wiser to only invest $100 into bitcoin as a beginner and spread the rest through backup and emergency funds which would allow his investments enough cushion until he gets better with his estimated prices and would also allow some trial and errors test to establish nearly what he actually needs as his backup funds before he could think of improving his DCA allocation. That's been said, it's very very realistic that some folks might take around a year or even more to fully set a 3-6 months worth of their living expenses as their emergency cushion. And during this period, the chances of an emergency or some setbacks not popping up are pretty low, like it's almost inevitable. But even if it actually does pop up, the key remains not to consider those setbacks as actual failures, but more like an inevitable part of the process. While you're still on your way to financial stability, it's normal for folks to use the funds when the need arises and then commit themselves to replenishing them, it's more like a cycle, until they've actually gained financial stability.
Using up your emergency funds on emergency is not an odd practice since those were the reasons for having them. The reason for going through all this stress is to ensure the security of your bitcoin stash at the first instance. When emergency situation arises and a person fails to handle it properly, it could regenerate and no amount of financial stability too can be exact about having an enough emergency funds or backup funds since no one can tell the exact nature of the next emergency situation that could be fall him. It is crucial to folks to learn how to balance the risks involved in investing. Yes, Investing more would potentially make one to reach their desired goal faster, but it is worth noting that an imbalance risk could potentially affect their investment if not properly balanced, that is to say that, if an investor commits more to Accumulating more Bitcoin and then neglect their backup funds, they'll be endangering their investment because the odds of them liquidating their Bitcoin later when an emergency occurs are drastically increased, which of course would be undermining their reason they chose to invest in the first place. [/quote] You're very correct. It's not about having pursuing your accumulation target with greed or a limited time. Your bitcoin accumulation should not interfere with your normal daily lifestyle and basic responsibilities in order not to affect your bitcoin and cause premature sales and even losses. Some people are too aggressive to admit that emergency funds and back up funds are very necessary, they are not also good at their cashflow management and most times, they end up making mistakes that risk their bitcoin stash. Maintaining a good balance between your financial security and bitcoin accumulation can only be possible when one has understood the need to shun greed and also taken his time to master his cashflow management. Even when the market looks too juicy and you wish you could invest all you have in bitcoin, also remember that a negative balance in your financial security could ruin all your bitcoin holding potential. The truth is that, a lot of people often underestimate the power of consistent contributions, no matter the size. Even if you're putting in as low as $20 or $40 towards your emergency fund every week, as long as you stay consistent, that compounding effect will definitely build resilience overtime, and as soon as you notice that you've gathered a sizable amount for emergencies, then those free money can be directed towards Bitcoin with far greater confidence. I agree with you that in the early stages, flexibility is very necessary, but in order to ensure long term sustainability, discipline in rebuilding becomes very crucial, because without that discipline, the emergency fund, instead of being treated like a true shield, now stands the risk of being considered as a revolving door.
Slow and steady they say wins the race not fast and furious. A little patience could save someone from loosing his assets over an unnecessary and avoidable financial mistakes. Many people are caught up while trying to be more aggressive in their bitcoin accumulation process instead of being dedicated to their DCA approach and keeping it consistent and if need be, improve their DCA allocation gradually as their finances grow larger.
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Barikui1
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September 12, 2025, 06:44:09 AM |
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If you always rely on emergency fund then it will never be the right decision. Because emergency fund is the last resource to protect your holdings. If your emergency fund is the first and last resource then it will never be the right decision. It is never right to take money from emergency fund for small financial crisis.
You can divide your funds into 3 levels. Such as cash, reserve fund, emergency fund. If you build your funds in this way then it will be much better for you. For example you can take money from cash to deal with small financial crisis, you can take money from reserve fund to deal with big financial crisis and finally if you do not have any money then you can take money from your emergency fund.
You cannot build 3 things at the same time. So first you have to build an emergency fund and after that you have to build it gradually. But if you delay investing to create this fund, it will never be the right decision. You will have to create the funds along with the investment.
The truth is that knowledge is power, when most Investors hear about emergency funds they think that it's a money kept aside to address any financial needs while investing, not knowing that emergency funds is that fund that stands as the last layer of protection of your Bitcoin investment, so it can only be tempered with when face with real life emergencies that threatens your Bitcoin holdings. This is why having a reserve funds in place is highly recommended because it's through there, you address some small financial but crucial need instead of dipping hands into your emergency funds when it's not an emergency situation, so having an emergency and reserve funds in place is the best combination that keeps your Bitcoin investment afloat to withstand any storm that comes it way during your accumulation and holding journey.
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Cossyblack
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September 12, 2025, 07:40:17 AM |
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If a newbie happens to enters into Bitcoin investments with what you said, honestly speaking that newbie wouldn't even last a year in his/her Bitcoin journey coz he may end up using his discretionary income for emergency situation or even channelling it to his reserve holding.
When an investor starts using funds meant for his Bitcoin investment for emergency situation,then his Bitcoin investment will be delayed. As an Investor you should know how to split your discretional income to serve a greater purpose . After taking care of your basics needs, whatever excess cash that is left is your discretional income ,parts of it should be reinvested into buying Bitcoin for the week while the rest of it should be used to build your Backup funds (Emergency & reserve fund). Your Emergency funds is buildup from your discretional income and should only be used when real life Emergencies strikes. You cannot build 3 things at the same time. So first you have to build an emergency fund and after that you have to build it gradually. But if you delay investing to create this fund, it will never be the right decision. You will have to create the funds along with the investment.
If you have a strong weekly flow of discretional income,then you shouldn't have any difficulty investing in Bitcoin alongside building your Emergency and Reserve funds. Building your Emergency fund doesn't require haste, it's a gradual process and it is appropriate for you to build up your emergency fund for a period of 3 - 4 months to produce a backup strong enough to protect your Bitcoin investment from any emergency crisis that may threaten it.
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Gost ms
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September 12, 2025, 08:32:14 AM |
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We need to build our own emergency fund as our last resort. If you do not have any other type of fund other than an emergency fund, then you will be dependent on the emergency fund only. If you create different funds, then you should never take money from the emergency fund first. The emergency fund should be our last resort.
If we have several funds, then it will be much better for our investment. For example, it is never possible to say when we have to face a disaster. Suppose you are just relying on the emergency fund and do not have any other type of fund. At this time, you are in the midst of a financial disaster and while dealing with that crisis, you are in another financial disaster. Then what will you do if you do not have enough money to deal with that financial crisis. So divide your funds into several levels so that you can deal with financial crises very easily. You mentioned the difference between emergency fund and reserve fund but didn't fully clarify it. Emergency fund and reserve fund should be arranged according to importance. No type of fund should be used for all daily expenses. If unexpected expenses arise, then if it is not possible to meet it with daily expenses, then that financial problem can be solved from the reserve fund or emergency fund. Apart from daily expenses, many types of expenses can increase, such as medical expenses for illness, buying some necessary things for the house, buying a new phone for the child, such expenses can be met from the reserve fund. But if there are more serious problems beyond this. For example, if a family member has a serious disease. It will take a lot of money for that as medical expenses, then if all his saved money is exhausted. If the money in the reserve fund is also exhausted, then he will take money from the emergency fund and solve that problem. Even if that money is exhausted, he will sell Bitcoin as a last resort. So it will depend on his economical situation and how serious his economic problems are. Since the emergency fund was not used in the first place, I think the emergency fund should be kept in a state where it cannot be used easily.
We need to build our own emergency fund as our last resort. If you do not have any other type of fund other than an emergency fund, then you will be dependent on the emergency fund only. If you create different funds, then you should never take money from the emergency fund first. The emergency fund should be our last resort. If we have several funds, then it will be much better for our investment. For example, it is never possible to say when we have to face a disaster. Suppose you are just relying on the emergency fund and do not have any other type of fund. At this time, you are in the midst of a financial disaster and while dealing with that crisis, you are in another financial disaster. Then what will you do if you do not have enough money to deal with that financial crisis. So divide your funds into several levels so that you can deal with financial crises very easily.
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September 12, 2025, 11:08:15 AM |
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If you always rely on emergency fund then it will never be the right decision. Because emergency fund is the last resource to protect your holdings. If your emergency fund is the first and last resource then it will never be the right decision. It is never right to take money from emergency fund for small financial crisis.
You can divide your funds into 3 levels. Such as cash, reserve fund, emergency fund. If you build your funds in this way then it will be much better for you. For example you can take money from cash to deal with small financial crisis, you can take money from reserve fund to deal with big financial crisis and finally if you do not have any money then you can take money from your emergency fund.
You cannot build 3 things at the same time. So first you have to build an emergency fund and after that you have to build it gradually. But if you delay investing to create this fund, it will never be the right decision. You will have to create the funds along with the investment.
The truth is that knowledge is power, when most Investors hear about emergency funds they think that it's a money kept aside to address any financial needs while investing, not knowing that emergency funds is that fund that stands as the last layer of protection of your Bitcoin investment, so it can only be tempered with when face with real life emergencies that threatens your Bitcoin holdings. This is why having a reserve funds in place is highly recommended because it's through there, you address some small financial but crucial need instead of dipping hands into your emergency funds when it's not an emergency situation, so having an emergency and reserve funds in place is the best combination that keeps your Bitcoin investment afloat to withstand any storm that comes it way during your accumulation and holding journey. So, keeping a reserve fund along with an emergency fund is very important. Incidentally determining the amount of emergency funds, as well as the amount of reserve funds depends on the financial management of the investor. There are some types of emergency needs considering those types if there is a less important need then it would be better to use the reserve fund to meet that need. In the meantime it would be wise to consider the amount of your main emergency fund, such as three months or six months, according to your financial management. Having an emergency fund to cover three months of expenses can prevent wasting money because events are unexpected and uncertain. Sometimes it may be that the size of the reserve fund can be greater than the size of the emergency fund by adjusting your income financially, thereby making more purchases while keeping the value. The most interesting thing is to continue to buy in accordance with your financial situation and buy aggressively when the price falls.
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September 12, 2025, 01:13:22 PM |
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Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. There could be times when emergency fund can be used in the place of discretion fund when there is no discretion but that doesn't mean that it will remain permanent but these only happens when there is a financial difficulty or mismanagement of fund or when our source of income are whimpy. But However I don't mean to say yhat it is advisable to misplace the usage of each of this funds but we just need to know that sometimea we just need to be flexible in our investment approach in other not to follow a wrong investment approach expecialy anything that will leed to selling of Bitcoin when our target has not been met.
On no account are you expected to use your emergency fund as discretionary income because their usage are different. Discretionary income are funds remaining after taking out your expenses and from that discretionary income you buy Bitcoin and build out your emergency fund as well as reserve funds and floating cash. It is a very bad cashflow management practice tho turn your emergency fund in when there is no real emergency thereby defeating it's purpose. When you run into a financial difficulty or there is a decrease in your income supply which makes you not tho have discretionary income for buying Bitcoin, you can pause your buying Bitcoin until you've sorted yourself out and not converting your emergency fund into discretionary income in order to buy Bitcoin. Peradventure there comes a real emergency when you've used up your emergency fund inappropriately, you'll have to tamper with your Bitcoin portfolio to solve it which you would've been able to avoid if you have not mishandled your emergency fund in the first place.
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September 12, 2025, 02:27:26 PM |
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Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. There could be times when emergency fund can be used in the place of discretion fund when there is no discretion but that doesn't mean that it will remain permanent but these only happens when there is a financial difficulty or mismanagement of fund or when our source of income are whimpy. But However I don't mean to say yhat it is advisable to misplace the usage of each of this funds but we just need to know that sometimea we just need to be flexible in our investment approach in other not to follow a wrong investment approach expecialy anything that will leed to selling of Bitcoin when our target has not been met.
It is worth noting that the Emergency fund isn't as flexible as every other backup funds, such as the reserve or float funds. Tampering your emergency fund or using it to serve the purpose of the discretionary income would only mean one thing, which is endangering your Bitcoin portfolio. The Emergency Fund should in fact be treated as a rigid cushion as it is the ultimate safety net for your Bitcoin investment. Now imagine a situation where you hit a potential DIP in the market and it's just so attractive that you feel you can't miss buying on that DIP, and maybe in the absence of a reserve fund or discretionary fund, you decide to opt for using your Emergency fund to buy the DIP (leaving your Investment defenceless and vulnerable), with intentions of replenishing it in the coming weeks, and then just after the buy, an unexpected emergency suddenly pops up. Now, there's no emergency fund in place, no reserve or float fund, you're left with nothing but your Bitcoin investment, what do you think would happen in such a case if not to dip into your investment to sort out that emergency... The Emergency fund is just as important as your Investment and should be treated with extreme caution too, the only time one should seek the assistance of the emergency fund is when an actual emergency surfaces, anything other than that could either wait or be attended to by other backup funds. I'm not in support of the idea that the emergency fund should be considered as a flexible fund that could be extended to other areas or financial needs, except actually emergencies.
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It is worth noting that the Emergency fund isn't as flexible as every other backup funds, such as the reserve or float funds. Tampering your emergency fund or using it to serve the purpose of the discretionary income would only mean one thing, which is endangering your Bitcoin portfolio. The Emergency Fund should in fact be treated as a rigid cushion as it is the ultimate safety net for your Bitcoin investment. Now imagine a situation where you hit a potential DIP in the market and it's just so attractive that you feel you can't miss buying on that DIP, and maybe in the absence of a reserve fund or discretionary fund, you decide to opt for using your Emergency fund to buy the DIP (leaving your Investment defenceless and vulnerable), with intentions of replenishing it in the coming weeks, and then just after the buy, an unexpected emergency suddenly pops up. Now, there's no emergency fund in place, no reserve or float fund, you're left with nothing but your Bitcoin investment, what do you think would happen in such a case if not to dip into your investment to sort out that emergency...
I understand your point mate, it will a foolish decision for any investor to use all his emergency funds of at least three months of his monthly expenses to buy bitcoin at once because of a drastic dip that he does not want to miss because at the end if he is hit with real emergency like you said, he might lose his total bitcoin portfolio to such emergency. However, in a situation where the investors is expecting his weekly income in two days time and he sees a drastic dip, he can take out only the amount of money that he has planned to DCA with on that week from his discretionary income and buy bitcoin so that, he would not miss the dip. When he gets paid in two days time, he can replace the money which he took from his discretionary income. Apart from that it's totally wrong to tamper with your emergency funds because it's for a real life emergency only.
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However, in a situation where the investors is expecting his weekly income in two days time and he sees a drastic dip, he can take out only the amount of money that he has planned to DCA with on that week from his discretionary income and buy bitcoin so that, he would not miss the dip. When he gets paid in two days time, he can replace the money which he took from his discretionary income. I get your POV clearly, but I'll like you to note something as well, every bad behavior isn't a product of one time activity, it's a belief that is cultivated and accepted as normal from the mind and is played out constantly. When the investor tampers with his emergency fund to catch up with a dip, it termed normal but it's a bad discipline, he repeats it again and is termed smart, overtime it may feel normal for him to tamper with his emergency fund as long as he feels his income is on the way and there's no guarantee that he continues to replace what he's removed and unintentionally, he continues spending his emergency fund until it's very low only to be caught in reality check when there's a real emergency and nothing much left to Carter for it and then his portfolio is tempered. If there's any strictness left in you, apply it to your emergency fund and remain disciplined that it's not used for anything else apart from a real emergency.
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If you always rely on emergency fund then it will never be the right decision. Because emergency fund is the last resource to protect your holdings. If your emergency fund is the first and last resource then it will never be the right decision. It is never right to take money from emergency fund for small financial crisis.
You can divide your funds into 3 levels. Such as cash, reserve fund, emergency fund. If you build your funds in this way then it will be much better for you. For example you can take money from cash to deal with small financial crisis, you can take money from reserve fund to deal with big financial crisis and finally if you do not have any money then you can take money from your emergency fund.
You cannot build 3 things at the same time. So first you have to build an emergency fund and after that you have to build it gradually. But if you delay investing to create this fund, it will never be the right decision. You will have to create the funds along with the investment.
The truth is that knowledge is power, when most Investors hear about emergency funds they think that it's a money kept aside to address any financial needs while investing, not knowing that emergency funds is that fund that stands as the last layer of protection of your Bitcoin investment, so it can only be tempered with when face with real life emergencies that threatens your Bitcoin holdings. This is why having a reserve funds in place is highly recommended because it's through there, you address some small financial but crucial need instead of dipping hands into your emergency funds when it's not an emergency situation, so having an emergency and reserve funds in place is the best combination that keeps your Bitcoin investment afloat to withstand any storm that comes it way during your accumulation and holding journey. I totally agree with you and this mindset has caused a lots of people to made mistake in handling financial challenge or problem because sometimes they mistaken problem meant to be taken care of with backup funds or reserve funds to emergency funds and later they will suffer it. The ability for someone to differentiate emergency problem and problem that we should use our reserved funds to handle is very necessary because without it one will be misplacing the two which is not healthy and can cause problem in our investment. As the name implies "emergency funds" it means money meant for serious problem that will tend to affect our investment.
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Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. There could be times when emergency fund can be used in the place of discretion fund when there is no discretion but that doesn't mean that it will remain permanent but these only happens when there is a financial difficulty or mismanagement of fund or when our source of income are whimpy. But However I don't mean to say yhat it is advisable to misplace the usage of each of this funds but we just need to know that sometimea we just need to be flexible in our investment approach in other not to follow a wrong investment approach expecialy anything that will leed to selling of Bitcoin when our target has not been met.
It is worth noting that the Emergency fund isn't as flexible as every other backup funds, such as the reserve or float funds. Tampering your emergency fund or using it to serve the purpose of the discretionary income would only mean one thing, which is endangering your Bitcoin portfolio. The Emergency Fund should in fact be treated as a rigid cushion as it is the ultimate safety net for your Bitcoin investment. Now imagine a situation where you hit a potential DIP in the market and it's just so attractive that you feel you can't miss buying on that DIP, and maybe in the absence of a reserve fund or discretionary fund, you decide to opt for using your Emergency fund to buy the DIP (leaving your Investment defenceless and vulnerable), with intentions of replenishing it in the coming weeks, and then just after the buy, an unexpected emergency suddenly pops up. Now, there's no emergency fund in place, no reserve or float fund, you're left with nothing but your Bitcoin investment, what do you think would happen in such a case if not to dip into your investment to sort out that emergency... The Emergency fund is just as important as your Investment and should be treated with extreme caution too, the only time one should seek the assistance of the emergency fund is when an actual emergency surfaces, anything other than that could either wait or be attended to by other backup funds. I'm not in support of the idea that the emergency fund should be considered as a flexible fund that could be extended to other areas or financial needs, except actually emergencies. In some cases where you have exhausted your discretionary income for bitcoin investment it's not bad if an investor uses little of his emergency fund to purchase bitcoin and still make a replacement back to your emergency fund when things are alright but emergency fund shouldn't serve the purpose of discretionary income using your emergency in a one time purchase of bitcoin doesn't give you a bad method to invest in bitcoin.
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September 13, 2025, 11:12:55 AM |
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It is necessary to be aware of these issues, all types of funds should not be mixed together, rather each fund has a different purpose, and all those funds should be used according to that purpose, if any fund is used outside the purpose, it can only create problems. For example, emergency funds are created only to deal with unexpected financial situations so that your Bitcoin investment is protected in the long term, on the other hand, reserve funds are kept to take advantage of the opportunity to buy DIPs if Bitcoin drops slightly due to volatility, but in this case, if you mix up the purposes of these funds, and later buy Bitcoin DIPs with emergency funds, then how will you handle that unexpected situation if your financial unexpected situation comes to the fore? So you must be aware of these issues, and each fund should be used according to their purpose, then it is possible to keep the investment safe in the long term.
Well in Bitcoin investment no money is made permanent for a particular usage, the usage of this funds are not rigid but flexible and adjustable base on situation and or circumstances. There could be times when emergency fund can be used in the place of discretion fund when there is no discretion but that doesn't mean that it will remain permanent but these only happens when there is a financial difficulty or mismanagement of fund or when our source of income are whimpy. But However I don't mean to say yhat it is advisable to misplace the usage of each of this funds but we just need to know that sometimea we just need to be flexible in our investment approach in other not to follow a wrong investment approach expecialy anything that will leed to selling of Bitcoin when our target has not been met. @Pi-network314159 sorry but I wouldn’t agree with this because the whole point of an emergency fund is stability, not flexibility…. If you start treating your emergency fund as something that can be swapped around with discretionary income, then it stops being an emergency fund at all… The two are not even in the same category one is survival money, the other is optional play money… Once you utter that line, you put yourself in a position where, at the slightest financial shake, you may be forced to liquidate Bitcoin or any other investment at the worst possible time just to cover basic needs.. That is not flexibility, that is self sabotage.. It is like calling your rent money discretionary just because you feel like doing something else with it, it does not even correlate in any way.. The problem with using emergencies as adjustable is that emergencies don’t negotiate.. They don’t wait for the bullish season or for Bitcoin to hit your target, they come when they come… And when they do, if that fund has been tampered with or mismanaged, you will find yourself selling off BTC at the wrong price, not because you planned it, but because life forced your hand…. That is why I see keeping an emergency fund intact as non negotiable.. Discretionary income can disappear and life will move on, you simply would not travel, you won’t buy that new gadget, you won’t invest that month.. But if your emergency fund disappears, you are cornered with no choice, and that is a dangerous place to be as both an investor and a person handling real life responsibilities… Another way I see it is that the strength of an investor is not just in how much Bitcoin they stack but in how disciplined they are with money categories.. Anyone can buy Bitcoin, but not everyone can resist the urge to overextend themselves… True long term investors build a system where their emergency cash is sacred and untouchable, no matter what opportunities pop up.. That kind of discipline protects both their portfolio and their peace of mind.. Flexibility might sounds nice in theory, but it can not be applied to every area of finance.. Some things, like emergency funds, need to be rigid because that is what gives you freedom elsewhere.. In fact, the more disciplined you are with your emergency fund, the more confidently you can play with your discretionary funds without fear..
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September 13, 2025, 05:05:35 PM |
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In some cases where you have exhausted your discretionary income for bitcoin investment it's not bad if an investor uses little of his emergency fund to purchase bitcoin and still make a replacement back to your emergency fund when things are alright but emergency fund shouldn't serve the purpose of discretionary income using your emergency in a one time purchase of bitcoin doesn't give you a bad method to invest in bitcoin.
Investing with emergency fund is never a good decision. If you ever have a financial crisis, you can take money from the emergency fund to deal with your disaster. No one can ever say when, what will happen. For example, if you invest with your emergency fund and if, after some time, your financial crisis occurs, how will you deal with your financial crisis at that time. Then to deal with your financial crisis, you may have to sell your holdings or you may have to take a loan from someone, so investing with emergency fund will never be a good decision. I can give you a real example. One of my brothers had a shop and he created an emergency fund to deal with financial crisis. The company from which my brother used to buy goods told my brother that if you buy more goods, then you will get a good discount on each item. Hearing this, my brother combined some of his saved money and emergency fund and bought a lot of goods. A few days later, my brother's son got into a car accident and he didn't have enough money to treat his son. Then he was forced to sell the goods at a low price and lost a lot of money.
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September 13, 2025, 05:09:44 PM |
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I don't know how left over funds after one has made all his expenses for the time being which is discretionary income and fund thats been kept for emergency or any unexpected stuff which is reserved funds will be the same,
Discretionary income, emergency fund and reserve fund are 3 different things but you are getting it complicated you still tag emergency fund and reserve fund as thesame thing i think they are two different things, emergency fund has it purpose when it comes to Bitcoin investment reserve fund also serve on a different purpose. Emergency fund is there to care of real emergencies when they happened to prevent you from selling soon when the unexpected occur, while the reserve fund is there to accumulate Bitcoin expecially when there is a decline in price one can use his reserve fund to accumulate more Bitcoin so stop seeing emergency fund and reserve fund to the same. It is necessary to be aware of these issues, all types of funds should not be mixed together, rather each fund has a different purpose, and all those funds should be used according to that purpose, if any fund is used outside the purpose, it can only create problems. For example, emergency funds are created only to deal with unexpected financial situations so that your Bitcoin investment is protected in the long term, on the other hand, reserve funds are kept to take advantage of the opportunity to buy DIPs if Bitcoin drops slightly due to volatility, but in this case, if you mix up the purposes of these funds, and later buy Bitcoin DIPs with emergency funds, then how will you handle that unexpected situation if your financial unexpected situation comes to the fore? So you must be aware of these issues, and each fund should be used according to their purpose, then it is possible to keep the investment safe in the long term. I think you have very little idea about fund management. In fact, neither emergency fund nor reserve fund is formed to buy Bitcoin whatever its DIP or not. And those who follow the DCA method and buy Bitcoin for a long term with discretionary income do not worry about the fluctuation of Bitcoin price. They only buy Bitcoin regularly. Bitcoin is for long-term investment and it is important to form a emergency fund and reserve fund because many types of financial problems can arise in daily life. If those financial problems cannot be solved, then it will not be possible to invest for a long time. Then it will be seen that Bitcoin may have to be sold to solve the financial problems. As a result, he will not get the profit that he would have gained after long-term investing. Now it is important to know when and how to use the reserve fund and emergency funds. Suppose a person is investing regularly and suddenly he faces a financial problem. Then he will first try to solve the problem with the money he has in his hand, if that is not possible, then he will take money from the reserve fund and solve that financial problem. Now, if the financial problem is very big, like a medical treatment that requires a lot of money, then if he cannot solve it with the money from the reserve fund, then he will take money from the emergency fund and after his problem is solved, he will bring the reserve fund and the emergency fund back to their previous position by depositing the money there.Not only this, it was found that suddenly the person's income source stopped, the job was lost, then if he cannot find a job very quickly, then after his reserve fund runs out, he will be forced to take money from the emergency fund to meet his daily living expenses. If it happens that he is unable to arrange a new income for many months and his emergency fund is also exhausted, then he will sell Bitcoin as a last resort. Another important thing to keep in mind is that emergency funds and reserve funds should never be used to buy Bitcoin whether price drop or not. Always buy Bitcoin with discretionary income.
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September 13, 2025, 05:20:23 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Another important thing to keep in mind is that emergency funds and reserve funds should never be used to buy Bitcoin whether price drop or not. Always buy Bitcoin with discretionary income.
I disagree with you that reserve funds shouldn't be used to buy bitcoin during the dip because that is one of the major purpose of building a reserve funds so that you can be flexible in your bitcoin investment and buy bitcoin at the dip whenever it comes to increase your bitcoin portfolio faster provided that your regular weekly accumulation is ongoing. It's not a crime or bad to use your back up funds for the right purpose just like you shouldn't use your emergency funds for anything only when there's a real life emergency. The reason of building a reserve funds is for you to prepare yourself for any possible dip in order for you to take advantage of it. Secondly, you can also use your reserve funds first to take care of any real emergency that pop up before diving into your emergency funds. It's when your reserve funds cannot tackle the problem that you start using from your emergency funds. Reserve funds is can also be used for going to an expensive restaurant for dinner and maybe, the repair of your car when it breaks down without any preparation for it.
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In some cases where you have exhausted your discretionary income for bitcoin investment it's not bad if an investor uses little of his emergency fund to purchase bitcoin and still make a replacement back to your emergency fund when things are alright but emergency fund shouldn't serve the purpose of discretionary income using your emergency in a one time purchase of bitcoin doesn't give you a bad method to invest in bitcoin.
Investing with emergency fund is never a good decision. If you ever have a financial crisis, you can take money from the emergency fund to deal with your disaster. No one can ever say when, what will happen. For example, if you invest with your emergency fund and if, after some time, your financial crisis occurs, how will you deal with your financial crisis at that time. Then to deal with your financial crisis, you may have to sell your holdings or you may have to take a loan from someone, so investing with emergency fund will never be a good decision. Emergency funds are not called “emergency” for nothing, they’re meant to be accessible anytime without stress. Life is very unpredictable, one moment everything is fine, the next moment you might need money for medical bills, family needs, sudden job loss, or even just basic survival. In those times, having your funds tied up in an investment that could be in a dip will only add more pain and confusion. Some people think they can outsmart life by putting everything into investments, but the truth is, no matter how good the investment looks, if you don’t have a safety net, you will always be exposed to unnecessary risks. That’s why the smart move is to first separate your survival funds, then whatever you have left can be channeled into investments and Bitcoin..
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