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We just got a really important win against Beşiktaş in the derby. But I must be honest about one thing there. If Orkun didn't receive that red card I can't even imagine how badly we were about to lose.  Because we were really desperate while they were capturing a 2-0 advantage. I didn't expect us to be that bad. Even though we won by 3-2 we should learn our lesson from the performance we showed before the red card. I think most Fenerbahçe fans would agree with you on this. Because honestly, your team wasn’t playing well at all, and Orkun Kökçü ended up being the player who helped you the most in that match. I’m not sure if you like Kerem Aktürkoğlu, but in my opinion, he’s been playing poorly, he was bad in the derby too. I really hope he improves soon, because the club spent a lot of money on him.
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Fenerbahçe fans also know very well that even when they win games, they don't play well. It's impossible for them to become champions with this kind of play. They played really well during İsmail Kartal's season, but even then they couldn't do it. Now, with this poor play and poor group of players, it's impossible for them to win anything. It's already impossible to win the championship with foreign managers in this country. Every year, teams managed by Turkish managers win the championship. Tedesco is not someone who has the ability to turn this around. In a league like this, Fatih Tekke's Trabzonspor has a better chance of winning the championship than Tedesco's Fenerbahçe.
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Fenerbahçe fans also know very well that even when they win games, they don't play well. It's impossible for them to become champions with this kind of play. They played really well during İsmail Kartal's season, but even then they couldn't do it. Now, with this poor play and poor group of players, it's impossible for them to win anything. It's already impossible to win the championship with foreign managers in this country. Every year, teams managed by Turkish managers win the championship. Tedesco is not someone who has the ability to turn this around. In a league like this, Fatih Tekke's Trabzonspor has a better chance of winning the championship than Tedesco's Fenerbahçe.
I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
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I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
Fenerbahçe management thought that with Jose Mourinho's wealth of experience, he would be able to improve the performance of the club. He had been successful in some top leagues and would replicate it in Turkey. Some Fenerbahçe fans were happy that the Portuguese manager was hired. How sure are we that İsmail Kartal would have done better? I could also have been worse. He led Iran’s Persepolis football club to the third position in the 2024-2025 season. Meanwhile, Mourinho helped Fenerbahçe to finish second in the Turkish league.
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I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
They signed Jose Mourinho because of his wealth of experience in the football managerial role, no one can deny the fact about the success he has achieved so far since he started off as a manager in his football management career. So no one saw this coming and even then are 100% confidence that with him, they’ll be able to win the league trophy and be a challenging contender with Galatasaray. It wasn’t certain that if they’d worked with Ismail Kartal they would be successful more with him, it’s now all speculations because he already left the club and did better elsewhere. No certainty whatsoever, so let them focus on their Mourinho and hopefully he gets a good season too.
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I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
They signed Jose Mourinho because of his wealth of experience in the football managerial role, no one can deny the fact about the success he has achieved so far since he started off as a manager in his football management career. So no one saw this coming and even then are 100% confidence that with him, they’ll be able to win the league trophy and be a challenging contender with Galatasaray. It wasn’t certain that if they’d worked with Ismail Kartal they would be successful more with him, it’s now all speculations because he already left the club and did better elsewhere. No certainty whatsoever, so let them focus on their Mourinho and hopefully he gets a good season too. Jose Mourinho is now a thing of the past. Let's see what we can do with Tedesco. As a Fenerbahçe fan, I say we must learn not to dwell on the past. We have the Europa League coming up, and we've won two games with Tedesco. Why shouldn't we experience another one? That's why I think, as fans, we need to learn from the past and move forward.
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I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
They signed Jose Mourinho because of his wealth of experience in the football managerial role, no one can deny the fact about the success he has achieved so far since he started off as a manager in his football management career. So no one saw this coming and even then are 100% confidence that with him, they’ll be able to win the league trophy and be a challenging contender with Galatasaray. It wasn’t certain that if they’d worked with Ismail Kartal they would be successful more with him, it’s now all speculations because he already left the club and did better elsewhere. No certainty whatsoever, so let them focus on their Mourinho and hopefully he gets a good season too. Jose Mourinho is now a thing of the past. Let's see what we can do with Tedesco. As a Fenerbahçe fan, I say we must learn not to dwell on the past. We have the Europa League coming up, and we've won two games with Tedesco. Why shouldn't we experience another one? That's why I think, as fans, we need to learn from the past and move forward. Jose Mourinho's time was a nightmare, and he's behind us. There's no need to even discuss him. I wish him a disappointing season at Benfica. Tedesco was good, we won two matches, and this consistency can be maintained. Why not? The fans are with Fenerbahçe, and that's how it was during the tough times. Now, good times are approaching, we've achieved the results we wanted in the Europa League, and I believe we will continue to do so. Tedesco is a good manager, he may have some requests in the interim, such as regarding player transfers, and club managers should listen to him carefully.
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I completely agree; Fenerbahçe was truly successful during İsmail Kartal's tenure. I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to bring in Mourinho or others like him. The team was already successful, but Galatasaray had a very good season, so they didn't win the championship. If they had worked with İsmail Kartal for another year, they could have achieved the championship they've been waiting for for years. Now they're racing for second place again, and I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Galatasaray
They signed Jose Mourinho because of his wealth of experience in the football managerial role, no one can deny the fact about the success he has achieved so far since he started off as a manager in his football management career. So no one saw this coming and even then are 100% confidence that with him, they’ll be able to win the league trophy and be a challenging contender with Galatasaray. It wasn’t certain that if they’d worked with Ismail Kartal they would be successful more with him, it’s now all speculations because he already left the club and did better elsewhere. No certainty whatsoever, so let them focus on their Mourinho and hopefully he gets a good season too. Jose Mourinho is now a thing of the past. Let's see what we can do with Tedesco. As a Fenerbahçe fan, I say we must learn not to dwell on the past. We have the Europa League coming up, and we've won two games with Tedesco. Why shouldn't we experience another one? That's why I think, as fans, we need to learn from the past and move forward. Jose Mourinho's time was a nightmare, and he's behind us. There's no need to even discuss him. I wish him a disappointing season at Benfica. Tedesco was good, we won two matches, and this consistency can be maintained. Why not? The fans are with Fenerbahçe, and that's how it was during the tough times. Now, good times are approaching, we've achieved the results we wanted in the Europa League, and I believe we will continue to do so. Tedesco is a good manager, he may have some requests in the interim, such as regarding player transfers, and club managers should listen to him carefully. The next match will be away in Plzen. Plzen were the biggest surprise in recent Europa League matches, beating Roma 2-1 away. Fenerbahçe's three points in this away match will be crucial. Tedesco must find the key to winning in the Czech Republic. We're currently achieving good results in the league, but the Europa League is a challenging tournament. Every match needs to be analyzed thoroughly and delivered with exceptional results.
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There are two unbeaten teams in the league so far, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray. Fenerbahçe are progressing similarly in the Europa League, while Galatasaray is progressing similarly in the Champions League. Both teams have one loss and two wins. Furthermore, they have the potential to win every match they play before they face each other. Galatasaray, who drew against Trabzonspor, maintains a four-point lead over Fenerbahçe in the Super League after winning their match.
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It was clear that referee didn't want to be fair, and after all the week of talking how referees also bet, I think it's safe to say referee may have bet on "besiktas first card" bet, looking at how oosterwolde wanted to break someone's leg and didn't even get a yellow card at the start of the game.
In any case, Besiktas should have known to park the bus better, they have failed to do that, if they have just parked the bus and didn't let fenerbahce attack at all, 10 people on the defense, all just blocking everything, it would have been impossible to concede 2 goals. But that first half was clear that Besiktas did not know what to do at all, they were like a headless chicken, which resulted with an easy comeback win for Fenerbahce.
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It was clear that referee didn't want to be fair, and after all the week of talking how referees also bet, I think it's safe to say referee may have bet on "besiktas first card" bet, looking at how oosterwolde wanted to break someone's leg and didn't even get a yellow card at the start of the game.
In any case, Besiktas should have known to park the bus better, they have failed to do that, if they have just parked the bus and didn't let fenerbahce attack at all, 10 people on the defense, all just blocking everything, it would have been impossible to concede 2 goals. But that first half was clear that Besiktas did not know what to do at all, they were like a headless chicken, which resulted with an easy comeback win for Fenerbahce.
I doubt if something like that would stop the referee from giving a yellow card which he's supposed to give in that match, knowing fully well his officiating of that very match was still under watch of other spectators as he's the center referee in that game and can cause him his job or probably get suspension if he didn't blow what he's supposed blow in a given match, and remember we have VA men in who will his attention back if failed to do the needful.
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Besiktas is not doing fine, they have ended up with another loss, a scandalous one at that. I am not sure what they are going to do, this is their third season being terrible and whatever they have tried, failed so far.
I think it's clear they are not going to get anything great out of this line up neither, nor this manager, you have to see that this team has a long way to recover. Someone, president or manager or whoever, should come up and finally say "look, we can't win anything for a few years, let's sell all our good players, lets replace everyone with young talent that is 25 or younger ,and do few years like that " because that is the way they can recover and do a fine job, otherwise they are not going to do good at all.
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November 04, 2025, 09:39:31 PM |
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Besiktas is not doing fine, they have ended up with another loss, a scandalous one at that. I am not sure what they are going to do, this is their third season being terrible and whatever they have tried, failed so far.
I think it's clear they are not going to get anything great out of this line up neither, nor this manager, you have to see that this team has a long way to recover. Someone, president or manager or whoever, should come up and finally say "look, we can't win anything for a few years, let's sell all our good players, lets replace everyone with young talent that is 25 or younger ,and do few years like that " because that is the way they can recover and do a fine job, otherwise they are not going to do good at all.
Overall, Beşiktaş has a weak squad, and that’s why it’s normal for them to have a poor season. With this lineup, no coach could really make a difference, no matter who comes in, the results will likely stay the same. Hopefully, next season they can build a stronger team, and we can see Beşiktaş back at the top again.
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It was clear that referee didn't want to be fair, and after all the week of talking how referees also bet, I think it's safe to say referee may have bet on "besiktas first card" bet, looking at how oosterwolde wanted to break someone's leg and didn't even get a yellow card at the start of the game.
In any case, Besiktas should have known to park the bus better, they have failed to do that, if they have just parked the bus and didn't let fenerbahce attack at all, 10 people on the defense, all just blocking everything, it would have been impossible to concede 2 goals. But that first half was clear that Besiktas did not know what to do at all, they were like a headless chicken, which resulted with an easy comeback win for Fenerbahce.
I doubt if something like that would stop the referee from giving a yellow card which he's supposed to give in that match, knowing fully well his officiating of that very match was still under watch of other spectators as he's the center referee in that game and can cause him his job or probably get suspension if he didn't blow what he's supposed blow in a given match, and remember we have VA men in who will his attention back if failed to do the needful. If that's the case, then why didn't he show such a clear foul card? Is there a single logical explanation for this? He sees the foul, blows the whistle, the tension is high in the game, and instead of showing the card to lower the tension, he stokes the fire. Why do you think he's doing this? Why would he do this if he didn't have his own interests at stake? Why would he dare to do this when he knows everyone is watching? Unfortunately, this is the situation we've been facing in our country for years. Referees always behave this way against Beşiktaş, and because we don't have enough lobbying power, we can't even defend our rights.
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Checking out the fixtures of this match week, I can say top 3 teams in the standings all can be victorious comfortably. Trabzonspor seem to have the most difficult match as Alanyaspor are in 9th place. But even that shouldn't be a big challenge for them. Fatih Tekke is doing a superb work this season. They looked decent in the toughest fixture of the season too last week. I think they won't drop from the Champions League qualification race that easy. But for winning the league? I don't think they can do so at all.
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Besiktas is not doing fine, they have ended up with another loss, a scandalous one at that. I am not sure what they are going to do, this is their third season being terrible and whatever they have tried, failed so far.
I think it's clear they are not going to get anything great out of this line up neither, nor this manager, you have to see that this team has a long way to recover. Someone, president or manager or whoever, should come up and finally say "look, we can't win anything for a few years, let's sell all our good players, lets replace everyone with young talent that is 25 or younger ,and do few years like that " because that is the way they can recover and do a fine job, otherwise they are not going to do good at all.
The things you're talking about are rational and what I want too, but they're impossible. Beşiktaş has been in this situation for years and has made some terrible transfers in certain seasons, but even then, no one came forward to say so. Beşiktaş is one of Turkey's biggest teams; it has fallen far behind Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe in recent years, but it's still one of Turkey's biggest teams. If you say we won't have any target for a few seasons, you'll disappoint at least 15 million people and make at least 50 million people laugh at you..
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November 06, 2025, 02:40:06 PM |
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There are two unbeaten teams in the league so far, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray. Fenerbahçe are progressing similarly in the Europa League, while Galatasaray is progressing similarly in the Champions League. Both teams have one loss and two wins. Furthermore, they have the potential to win every match they play before they face each other. Galatasaray, who drew against Trabzonspor, maintains a four-point lead over Fenerbahçe in the Super League after winning their match.
Both teams are having a good performance in their competition, but I think Fenerbache performance is not good enough to trust them in the Europa League competition. Fenerbache performance is not that good even in the league, and we can see how they struggle sometimes to win matches. Galatasaray has shown that they are the best team in the Turkish league by beating many top teams in the Champions League. I did not say that Fenerbache is not good, but sometimes they did not perform well. Galatasaray played against Ajax yesterday and defeated Ajax at Ajax Stadium. Fenerbache is playing against Viktoria Pisen and we expect Fenerbache to win because they have better players than Pisen. Fenerbache can win the match if they play as a team that wants to win. I will not be surprised if Fenerbache concedes a goal in this match because the team defence is not good.
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November 06, 2025, 02:41:35 PM |
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Checking out the fixtures of this match week, I can say top 3 teams in the standings all can be victorious comfortably. Trabzonspor seem to have the most difficult match as Alanyaspor are in 9th place. But even that shouldn't be a big challenge for them. Fatih Tekke is doing a superb work this season. They looked decent in the toughest fixture of the season too last week. I think they won't drop from the Champions League qualification race that easy. But for winning the league? I don't think they can do so at all.
Alanyaspor did not play well, it was not a big fear for Trabzonspor, this will not be a difficult match for Trabzonspor, especially since this match is held at Papara Park which is the place where Trabzonspor trains his troops, this will be a difficult match for Alanyaspor because they are guests in this match. Trabzonspor is much better in terms of play, it is evident from the victories they have far during this season and can be in 3rd place in the standings thanks to their dedication.
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November 06, 2025, 03:04:50 PM |
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Galatasaray played against Ajax yesterday and defeated Ajax at Ajax Stadium. Fenerbache is playing against Viktoria Pisen and we expect Fenerbache to win because they have better players than Pisen. Fenerbache can win the match if they play as a team that wants to win. I will not be surprised if Fenerbache concedes a goal in this match because the team defence is not good.
I know that current Ajax are not a strong team, Galatasaray defeating them was obviously what is meant to happen, the number of goals in the match goes along how we are supposed to rate the both teams. Hattrick from Osimhen, having the best striker in your team and facing a weaker opponent, is already +1 on their advantage. Fenerbahce are lacking behind compared to other teams in the Europa League, they will make advance into the next stage of the competition, where big teams are not much, Fenerbahce should have a chance to compete for the title, unlike Galatasaray playing in the Champions League.
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November 06, 2025, 04:17:07 PM |
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Checking out the fixtures of this match week, I can say top 3 teams in the standings all can be victorious comfortably. Trabzonspor seem to have the most difficult match as Alanyaspor are in 9th place. But even that shouldn't be a big challenge for them. Fatih Tekke is doing a superb work this season. They looked decent in the toughest fixture of the season too last week. I think they won't drop from the Champions League qualification race that easy. But for winning the league? I don't think they can do so at all.
Alanyaspor did not play well, it was not a big fear for Trabzonspor, this will not be a difficult match for Trabzonspor, especially since this match is held at Papara Park which is the place where Trabzonspor trains his troops, this will be a difficult match for Alanyaspor because they are guests in this match. Trabzonspor is much better in terms of play, it is evident from the victories they have far during this season and can be in 3rd place in the standings thanks to their dedication. Considering Trabzonspor's strong performance this year, I don't think this match will be a challenge. Of course, football is played on the pitch, and Trabzonspor has been impressive this year with its high-quality play. They drew with Galatasaray, who have been making a name for themselves with their strong Champions League performance, and perhaps missed out on a victory. In this respect, they also play very well against strong teams. The Alanyaspor match won't be a challenge for them, on the contrary, I expect a comfortable victory.
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