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July 03, 2025, 04:45:15 PM
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These days, there are no more trolls . When I was new in this forum, there were many unrepentant trolls and they weren't banned for the reason of trolling, maybe for spamming.

The only medicine of trolls is to ignore them. The more you reply to a troll, the more you energize him. But the irony of the case is that, the trolls create avenue for people to complete their weekly post quota.

I also admit that trolls also play their role in keeping the forum lively. Sometimes I'll be bored and will just be searching troll threads that will lift my spirit  Grin

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July 05, 2025, 06:53:09 AM
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These days, there are no more trolls . When I was new in this forum, there were many unrepentant trolls and they weren't banned for the reason of trolling, maybe for spamming.

The only medicine of trolls is to ignore them. The more you reply to a troll, the more you energize him. But the irony of the case is that, the trolls create avenue for people to complete their weekly post quota.

I also admit that trolls also play their role in keeping the forum lively. Sometimes I'll be bored and will just be searching troll threads that will lift my spirit  Grin

It sounds like you feel sorry. I can tell you about an unkillable troll who doesn't disappear from the forum; his favorite location is Russian, but you should be glad that he stopped appearing in the reputation. There used to be nominations; if one day they decide to create a similar nomination, "Best Troll of the Forum," then this will certainly excite the desire of some individuals to do nonsense, so as you say, "to revive the forum." Grin

 
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July 05, 2025, 09:07:14 AM
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These days, there are no more trolls . When I was new in this forum, there were many unrepentant trolls and they weren't banned for the reason of trolling, maybe for spamming.

Gone are those days regularly abusive and toxic behaviors of users were strictly contents to justify the communities Terms of Services which are tantamount to legal actions of banning users accounts. Although it was actively a practice before I myself came in in less than 2 years ago. Unlike these days that banning accounts is more pegged on plagiarism and spamming. Obviously there's a regulatory adjustment now in considering the prompts to banning accounts.


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The only medicine of trolls is to ignore them. The more you reply to a troll, the more you energize him. But the irony of the case is that, the trolls create avenue for people to complete their weekly post quota.

Best remark of what such trolling contents impacts on users who pays them attention is that you'll also be afflicted of talking shits just to get fixed in maybe firing back to the troll. Unknowingly you sudden behave like one too. So the best to deal with them is the ignore


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I also admit that trolls also play their role in keeping the forum lively. Sometimes I'll be bored and will just be searching troll threads that will lift my spirit  Grin

Somedays are like that when they also play some easing roles on handle anxieties. The forum can be hectic sometimes with the quality of contents when you step up on some worth serious cases at times.

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July 05, 2025, 02:41:21 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2025, 04:30:55 PM by Pablo-wood
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I hope the forum does something at some point to protect users because the Default Trust system has failed miserably and at some point it crosses into negligence territory.
The forum's ability to stop trolls is inherently limited, it always falls back  to users protecting themselves. The ignore button remains one of the few reliable tools we have and the best choice in my own little suggestion.

That said, the pseudonymous nature of the forum makes accountability tough. If real world identity were tied to accounts, admins might face more pressure to act against misconduct. But in an anonymous system, trolls often thrive because there's less risk of real consequences both for them or for those enabling them.

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The forum's ability to stop trolls is inherently limited, it always falls back  to users protecting themselves. The ignore button remains one of the few reliable tools we have and the best choice in my own little suggestion.

In this regard, we should encourage members for more use of the ignore button as well as the report button for trolls seen on the forum, we cant do without having them come in once a while, but when such is observed, then we acted accordingly and as appropriate.

That said, the pseudonymous nature of the forum makes accountability tough. If real world identity were tied to accounts, admins might face more pressure to act against misconduct.

I may not support this, because the forum supported it for our maximum privacy which they also respected, if all we preach is about the same privacy with bitcoin, then the forum should as well be in the best position to give it as well on its users, the issue of troll should not cause us to lose on this.

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Apparently, YES! Perfectly legal, I guess! Every now and then, we see trolls emerging around here. Some are pretty persistent, while others quickly loses interest and disappear for good. But now that you mention it, a question popped into my mind. Has there ever been a case on the forum where a user wwere banned because of trolling? Any of you guys have any idea? Tongue

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Apparently, YES! Perfectly legal, I guess! Every now and then, we see trolls emerging around here. Some are pretty persistent, while others quickly loses interest and disappear for good. But now that you mention it, a question popped into my mind. Has there ever been a case on the forum where a user wwere banned because of trolling? Any of you guys have any idea? Tongue
How do you say it is apparently allowed while the forum rules are written as not allow troll?

I agree if you say something like troll is not allowed in this forum but this rule interpretation is too lenient towards trollers and your account won't be banned by a single troll posts or even many troll posts.

It is very big different than how plagiarism cases are handled with immediate ban in the past while in latest years it has become more lenient and softer but still applied more strictly than trolling cases.

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July 05, 2025, 06:29:21 PM
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How do you say it is apparently allowed while the forum rules are written as not allow troll?

I agree if you say something like troll is not allowed in this forum but this rule interpretation is too lenient towards trollers and your account won't be banned by a single troll posts or even many troll posts.

It is very big different than how plagiarism cases are handled with immediate ban in the past while in latest years it has become more lenient and softer but still applied more strictly than trolling cases.

I meant "in a way". Even though rule number 3 clearly says no trolling, but do you think it it followed accordingly? If it were, we would have seen countless users getting banned. But personally, I haven't seen/noticed/observed users getting banned just for trolling. So in that sense I said allowed. Btw, unofficial rules, we mustn't forget that also. So, there are some level of grey areas here. My two sats...

I can't say anything about your last statement since I don't regularly follow the reputation board or plagiarism cases.

Anyway, can you point any cases where users were banned for trolling? Just curious...

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Although in this case I think it is simply someone who has mental problems, and it seems that from the forum they are quite lenient with them, as in the case of Polo7 and his multiple alts.
This will continue to be a nagging issue as it will be very difficult at what point one can draw the line between trolling and someone having mental issue? Since this is an anonymous site, we can't see people physically to judge their mental state. So, we just assume things. Anyway, like LoyceV said, even if one was insane; a forum wasn't the place to showcase one's mental problems. I agree with that.

The guy controlling the "jvanname" account (and his sockpuppet account, "Joseph Van Name Ph.D.") is clearly insane, so it's probably better to just put them both on Ignore.
I guess too much learning made them insane 😏

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I have seen a lot of this user's (jvanname) thread  and it's more than just trolling as I see it, jvanname obviously has mental disorder and he should look for help, it's very annoying seeing the way he talks to people in the forum and it seems like he doesn't have a family or friends so he is probably sad and depressed.

The rule number 3 of the forum says "no trolling" and they also didn't write down the consequences for trolling hence the reason why many trolls are yet to be banned from the forum, so OP, until the ban happens I suggest you use your ignore button on him as many users have done.

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But now that you mention it, a question popped into my mind. Has there ever been a case on the forum where a user wwere banned because of trolling? Any of you guys have any idea? Tongue
Im also curious to know if there are massive results on ban or maybe negative red tag for being a troll in the forum. Thats actually a broad term, we cant sometimes distinguish if a user is just plainly joking or have some wits on their though but for others it is already a troll.

Not sure if anyone layout a tabulations or info on this.

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July 08, 2025, 03:08:04 PM
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Well, you did not hold back on that one  Grin

By far the majority of members would agree. The one thing that is absolutely clear is that the puppeteer controlling the jvanname and Joseph Van Name Ph.D. accounts is not the real one and he probably does not even know his name is being used by a mentally unstable individual.

The guy controlling the "jvanname" account (and his sockpuppet account, "Joseph Van Name Ph.D.") is clearly insane, so it's probably better to just put them both on Ignore.

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Actually, if you read the forum rules, then probably it wasn't necessary to create this topic. Or if you read the rules and create this thread, then your thread should be considered as a troll thread. Isn't it? Then you may defend yourself as well that this isn't a troll post, because you didn't read the rules. So what's the result? It's become complicated to decide whether your thread is a troll or not. In such a case, if someone reports to moderators, then I am pretty sure they will leave it unhandled.

The summary and your answers are that trolling is illegal as per forum rules. But it's not an easy task to moderate trolling. Due to freedom of speech on the forum, trollers are taking advantage of it. So we fight each other on the reputation board by trolling. You can't control it anyway.


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Thanks for all reply. So trolling is allowed in this forum, as in many members have stated that no troll has ever been banned for that misconduct. Rules mean nothing if they are not enforced.
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It is the same with scams, they are not moderated in the forum and that has allowed some scammers with serious nefarious intent to operate freely simply because the forum rule are open. If a member finds another trolling, I suppose the appropriate course of action would be to leave a neutral tag and ignore them.

The summary and your answers are that trolling is illegal as per forum rules. But it's not an easy task to moderate trolling. Due to freedom of speech on the forum, trollers are taking advantage of it. So we fight each other on the reputation board by trolling. You can't control it anyway.

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Thanks for all reply. So trolling is allowed in this forum, as in many members have stated that no troll has ever been banned for that misconduct. Rules mean nothing if they are not enforced.

I know of at least one troll who has earned himself a permanent ban on this forum. Goat aka El Cabron was banned back in the day before people running this site got so rich they stopped caring about it. I can think of another troll who has earned himself a permanent ban, but for some reason is still here trolling.

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