STOP using AML Blockhair explorer!

[nc50lc]

I keep getting an "Onion site not found" error whenever I try to access their site using Tor. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

I've been trying that yesterday and it also showed the same "Onion site not found" error in each attempt. (I presumed that it doesn't exist at all)
Even now, it doesn't work at my end, other onion websites have no issues.

After several attempts, it finally went through.

Have you changed any settings in your Tor Browser/Tor or it fixed itself?

[nonlogs]

I keep getting an "Onion site not found" error whenever I try to access their site using Tor. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

After several attempts, it finally went through.

One of our customer btc coin that sent to us  



100% high risk by AMLCrypto.io versus 68% medium risk by MatchSystems

i believe each provider designs and applies their risk models and data sources different and not same.

These so called ALM method implementations are trying so hard to remove the main goal of Satoshi. I bet Satoshi Nakamoto knew that if he remained active, he would be put behind bars by the so called lawmakers they feel loss of their control.

[nonlogs]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

[sunsilk]

You dislike 1xbit on this forum because you know how it scammed people. Blockchair has been advertising 1xbit since many years ago and I have stopped using the site.

Is this a direct advertisement on their banner or just supplied by Google AdSense or any other ad platform with which they're partnered?

What purpose does the AML analysis serve and why is the OP portraying it as a bad thing?

I guess that they could collate all of the transactions that are input by users. So, every time someone searches and uses their personal addresses there, they're automatically analyzing if it's from a risky source.

Which could be used against to anyone if ever they've tracked the actual source and receiver and also can be sent to exchanges too if they try to sell the data.

[ABCbits]

--snip--
Well I say that if you don't even know what makes their coins dirty (besides keeping your coins on exchanges [LOL]), then how are people supposed to stay compliant on their platform?

They will just give generic/vague suggestion, such as don't interact with non-compliant platform or don't take any involvement any illegal activity.

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

We will never know. It'll take serious legal action to find out some details or how well it actually works. For example, legal action uncovered that Chainalysis rely on customer feedback rather than scientific evidence to evaluate it's accuracy[1].

[1] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/chainalysis-investigations-lead-is-unaware-of-scientific-evidence

[Trêvoid]

I keep getting an "Onion site not found" error whenever I try to access their site using Tor. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

I've been trying that yesterday and it also showed the same "Onion site not found" error in each attempt. (I presumed that it doesn't exist at all)
Even now, it doesn't work at my end, other onion websites have no issues.

After several attempts, it finally went through.

Have you changed any settings in your Tor Browser/Tor or it fixed itself?

I did exactly is set up a bridge connection or if you already have it you change it to without. and then kept clicking 'New Circuit for Site' until load, and kept the security level at standard.

those steps worked for me.

[NotATether]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

In general, all AML scores are guesswork. There is no one definitive scoring provider, kind of like how we don't actually have a single authoritative source for the BTC price. (You could say Coinbase, but there is also Binance, Kucoin, Bybit, Crypto.com, OKX ... )

[Trêvoid]

I keep getting an "Onion site not found" error whenever I try to access their site using Tor. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

After several attempts, it finally went through.

One of our customer btc coin that sent to us  



100% high risk by AMLCrypto.io versus 68% medium risk by MatchSystems

i believe each provider designs and applies their risk models and data sources different and not same.

These so called ALM method implementations are trying so hard to remove the main goal of Satoshi. I bet Satoshi Nakamoto knew that if he remained active, he would be put behind bars by the so called lawmakers they feel loss of their control.

You’re not wrong to feel that way. The push and pull between privacy and regulation is a big part of the story of crypto, and it’s probably not going away any time soon.

[goldkingcoiner]

Blockchair.com explorer quietly started adding AML risk score and AML analysis for all bitcoin transactions and addresses without asking users!
They are not asking for any payments right now, but everyone is paying with exposing all addresses, transactions and ip addresses.
If you care at all about your privacy you should stop using this bitcoin explorer asap, especially with clearnet.
They are now promoting AML nonsense with their partners and this can only hurt everyone in the long run.

Silently implemented, without user consent... All while claiming it is meant to "educate users". DISGUSTING.

I see dangers here: Does this not potentially expose sensitive on‑chain patterns which can lead to doxxing users location and activity?

But I am hoping the risk score analysis system is nothing more than some sort of arbitrary gimmick meant to be a sales tool for compliance services. At least that is what it looks like to me.

You know what would be a good idea? To develop a browser extension that flags websites that add some scummy, devious, user data exploitation nonsense meant for reducing the privacy of everyone else for self-profit.

[Taskford]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

In general, all AML scores are guesswork. There is no one definitive scoring provider, kind of like how we don't actually have a single authoritative source for the BTC price. (You could say Coinbase, but there is also Binance, Kucoin, Bybit, Crypto.com, OKX ... )

Seeing this it shows that their analysis is not accurate.



So its crazy that they add this up while they are not really sure about the data they release and they still let people to assess the information they read. But hopefully they made a great changes and use reliable outlets to determine that their AML scores provided is accurate so that it will not cause trouble to some entities or personalities in future.

[nc50lc]

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I did exactly is set up a bridge connection or if you already have it you change it to without.

Doesn't work at my end.
It's highly unlikely that this was the solution since it's mostly for those websites/locales where Tor is blocked.

and then kept clicking 'New Circuit for Site' until load, and kept the security level at standard.

This may be the solution, it seems like that their onion website might be requiring specific set of relay(s) for it to be found. Seems sketchy.
And too troublesome just to use a blockexplorer with that extra feature.

Thanks, BTW.

[Synchronice]

Blockchair.com explorer quietly started adding AML risk score and AML analysis for all bitcoin transactions and addresses without asking users!
They are not asking for any payments right now, but everyone is paying with exposing all addresses, transactions and ip addresses.
If you care at all about your privacy you should stop using this bitcoin explorer asap, especially with clearnet.
They are now promoting AML nonsense with their partners and this can only hurt everyone in the long run.

I don't need such service because I know that I'm doing everything 100% legal and none of my income comes from illegal activities, nor I send any money there. By the way, I'd use it for fun. Since it's free, they are paying the money, so let's let them pay more for this stupidity because they deserve this, this is a total nonsense, stupid idea to normalize AML scoring of every transaction.

To sum up, If people use a VPN and put randomly chosen transactions into that Blockchair's AML analyzer, then I don't see any problem. Not only will they pay for it, they'll collect a false information and false assumptions.

[dkbit98]

But I strictly won't be using theirs until they provide an '.onion' url.

It's strange to see they posted onion link on their clearnet website, but it's not working for some reason.
Maybe this was intentionally disabled to make spying on users more easy.

I just tried an address, and the results were completely different. One returned low risk, while the other was medium (almost high) risk. I would also be very interested in knowing what is the returned results for people who actively use mixers or non KYC platforms.

All of this tools work in similar way and they can never provide precise information.
It's more concerning for me that so many people actually trust this silly aml risk scores  

In general, all AML scores are guesswork. There is no one definitive scoring provider, kind of like how we don't actually have a single authoritative source for the BTC price. (You could say Coinbase, but there is also Binance, Kucoin, Bybit, Crypto.com, OKX ... )

And there is also government on top of everything. 

[Zwei]

I just tried an address, and the results were completely different. One returned low risk, while the other was medium (almost high) risk. I would also be very interested in knowing what is the returned results for people who actively use mixers or non KYC platforms.

can't say for mixers, but i tried with an address that received payments from gambling sites, and the results were conflicting as you can see.

All of this tools work in similar way and they can never provide precise information.

eeny meeny miny moe, is the address risky or no? you don't know? just generate a random score for the answer.
that's the "algorithm" they use, it's all bs.

It's more concerning for me that so many people actually trust this silly aml risk scores 

aMl rIsK ToOlS aRe FoR YoUr cOiNs sUcCeRtY, ThInK Of yOuR CoInS SuCcErTy.

[dkbit98]

can't say for mixers, but i tried with an address that received payments from gambling sites, and the results were conflicting as you can see.

Yeah I know they are giving different score results, but is probably because they are using different partners and services for this.
And this is my point exactly, every service can have their own last of blacklisted addresses, but none of them revealed that list in public.
They also didn't release their tool as open source, so anything can happen when you type addresses and they are surely getting connected with IP address, browser, OS you used, etc.

[Forsyth Jones]

I won't ignore the fact that block explorers are a facilitator and have played an important part in Bitcoin's history, and are widely recognized for their utility among crypto users.

However, we don't know if the server is correlating our addresses to our IP addresses, so since 2020, I've avoided using block explorers. I even created my own block explorer using btc-rpc-explorer. I was able to perform queries both on my local network and remotely. However, the electrs server that btc-rpc-explorer used to perform queries stopped working, and I was running out of SSD space due to the electrs server's data indexing. Unfortunately, I had to remove it. Today, I check my addresses through mempool.space on the Tor network (onion address).

I noticed that the blockchain was providing AML scores for each address with a balance, but I don't believe these analyses with 100% certainty. It could just be clickbait to get users to click and pay for their AML score and risk analysis services.

[bbc.reporter]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

However, if the AML risk score for some of your coins are high, does this imply that they have lower value because they will not be accepted by much of the exchanges? Will this also create another market for high risk bitcoins where the price will be a certain percentage lower? This will be headshaking, I reckon.

In any case, it appears that the Bank of International Settlements has also thought of this hehehhe and for the safety and security of consumers the people from traditional finance who back politicians will lobby for this to become a rule and a regulation.



Crypto exchanges should block users from cashing out tokens with low ‘compliance scores,’ BIS researchers say

In a paper published Wednesday, BIS researchers proposed scoring individuals’ crypto holdings based on their transfer history. The BIS is the Switzerland-based global forum of central banks, and it has often looked askance at crypto, warning it could undermine financial stability and regulators’ attempts to police financial markets.

Read in full https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/bis-researchers-propose-aml-compliance-scores-for-crypto/

[coupable]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

It couldn't be accurate, neither even can be called assumption. The kind word is it's a guess work so we don't call it a big clear lie. Blockchain analysis company take hours to days to trace a single address, while blockchair do it in just few seconds the time of downloading the page content. However, it won't be surprise to find that blockchair tie every address to the IP address of the request searching for it to fill its data base with more content. Stay away from this explorer, i stopped using it long time ago after they change the design and replace it with memepool.space a better friendly-use alternative.

[bbc.reporter]

@coupable. Agreed. Also, having these types of analysis will bring how we see bitcoin under the control of centralized blockchain analysis firms where their if there is centralization, there is a chance of corruption and manipulation.

An example of this would be if a certain wallet was declared holding bitcoins that came from the darknet by an blockchain analysis firm and this analysis was this paid for by people who want to buy bitcoin atma cheaper price. This is only a quick example, however, we can agree that there are manipulations that can occur.

[Forsyth Jones]

These tools are useful and sometimes it costs money. So having free information was not bad if this was only about information instead of encouraging to report addresses and help those companies to build their database. I wonder how much they are getting paid from these AML Risk Scorers and AML Analysis agencies.

But how could we know if it's accurate or just an assumption? Would they be willing to show how they rate these scores on what data or accusations?

It couldn't be accurate, neither even can be called assumption. The kind word is it's a guess work so we don't call it a big clear lie. Blockchain analysis company take hours to days to trace a single address, while blockchair do it in just few seconds the time of downloading the page content. However, it won't be surprise to find that blockchair tie every address to the IP address of the request searching for it to fill its data base with more content. Stay away from this explorer, i stopped using it long time ago after they change the design and replace it with memepool.space a better friendly-use alternative.

Ideally, you'd have your own block explorer, such as installing your own BTC-RPC-Explorer or Mempool.space. However, if you want to do it more easily, Sparrow Wallet has a built-in block explorer. If you connect the wallet to your Bitcoin Core node, you essentially have your own block explorer.

https://sparrowwallet.com/features/

I believe that if you connect your Sparrow Wallet to third-party servers, the third-party server doesn't have access to the queries the user makes when viewing transactions in the built-in block explorer.

For those who can't yet have their own block explorer, always use the Tor browser to query your addresses or TXIDs.