Musk calls for the creation of a truly American party

[paxmao]

Yet here you are.

I am trying to educate motherfuckers like you, but you refuse education because you are fucked up.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I see. So you are on some short of a mission to educate people by insulting them?

I can see that your understanding of human nature is ... not present, to put it in a way.

However, mine is still here, and I can see you are lying. You are here to take revenge on something that you think someone did to you - it is obvious. But lack of understanding of humans extends to your own nature. You will not get peace, you will not heal, you will live a life of self-pity and commiseration mixed with madness and you will end your days thinking that all this is someone elses' fault. You are wasting your only life.

Unless you start admiting things. Admiting to yourself first. You failed. You have to live with it. Move on. Do something great, do something worth a life, do something that stays when your are dust.

Just to make sure this is on-topic Trump is becoming more than a King. He is becoming a dictator.

[Iranus]

Still, I doubt Elon's party will have some success in the long term. Political duopoly being kept by both the Democrat and Republican party is strong and it would take much to convince people to give their trust to Musk as a reliable politician.

It's too early to say Elon's party will fail if we know what his real goals are. It's no coincidence that Republicans have expressed concern about Elon's new party, while Democrats seem to care little. And it's no coincidence that Elon took aim at the lawmakers who voted against Trump's spending bill.

Elon's goal is for his party to run for congressional seats in the 2026 midterm elections and win some seats. That's his goal, because once the American party wins some seats in Congress, Elon may have the opportunity to block, veto bills that he believes will harm the US economy like Trump's OBBBA bill.

Winning a few seats in Congress is not an impossible task.

[o48o]

I am trying to educate...
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Have you considered that your hostile attitude might be the reason you got kicked out thrown away from your education position in the first place?

I understand that you hate elmo, and people who adore elmo or hate him as well, but instead of speaking about your feelings, or explaining your reasoning any further, you are downright just insulting everyone. That's not constructive. That's not teaching, and lacks empathy that's needed for communication.

[paxmao]

I am trying to educate...
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Have you considered that your hostile attitude might be the reason you got kicked out thrown away from your education position in the first place?

I understand that you hate elmo, and people who adore elmo or hate him as well, but instead of speaking about your feelings, or explaining your reasoning any further, you are downright just insulting everyone. That's not constructive. That's not teaching, and lacks empathy that's needed for communication.

He is not here to educate anyone, he is trying to get revenge.

BTW you can say Elon here, we are not in TweeteX and he does not read any of this nor has the ability to censor - as far as I know, this forum is full of surprises.

Anyway, Elon (AKA Elmo) wants to get just a few seat which in the current context would be enough to manage and contain the worst of Trumps policies. And while he cannot win the Presidency (not now anyway), he could perfectly be able to get a few key seats and achive some degre of leverage on Trumpy.

[BADecker]

I am trying to educate...
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Have you considered that your hostile attitude might be the reason you got kicked out thrown away from your education position in the first place?

I understand that you hate elmo, and people who adore elmo or hate him as well, but instead of speaking about your feelings, or explaining your reasoning any further, you are downright just insulting everyone. That's not constructive. That's not teaching, and lacks empathy that's needed for communication.

He is not here to educate anyone, he is trying to get revenge.

BTW you can say Elon here, we are not in TweeteX and he does not read any of this nor has the ability to censor - as far as I know, this forum is full of surprises.

Anyway, Elon (AKA Elmo) wants to get just a few seat which in the current context would be enough to manage and contain the worst of Trumps policies. And while he cannot win the Presidency (not now anyway), he could perfectly be able to get a few key seats and achive some degre of leverage on Trumpy.

Just remember, Trump won against all odds listed by the media. And he won big. It's easily possible that Musk could gain a much greater following of people, who formerly were in favor of Trump, but are now disgruntled by Trump's seeming reversals in his promises.

Consider, Musk and Trump were buddies at the beginning of Trump's term. Then Musk's time was up, and he left. And that's the point where Trump started going bonkers in some of his operations.

Musk might not be able to become President, but he might support a totally different kind of person who just might make it over the current warmongers in Washington.

[Hispo]

Still, I doubt Elon's party will have some success in the long term. Political duopoly being kept by both the Democrat and Republican party is strong and it would take much to convince people to give their trust to Musk as a reliable politician.

It's too early to say Elon's party will fail if we know what his real goals are. It's no coincidence that Republicans have expressed concern about Elon's new party, while Democrats seem to care little. And it's no coincidence that Elon took aim at the lawmakers who voted against Trump's spending bill.

Elon's goal is for his party to run for congressional seats in the 2026 midterm elections and win some seats. That's his goal, because once the American party wins some seats in Congress, Elon may have the opportunity to block, veto bills that he believes will harm the US economy like Trump's OBBBA bill.

Winning a few seats in Congress is not an impossible task.

It is not a impossible task, but you have keep in mind that if he serious about founding his own political party and have their own congress people candidates to run for the mid term elections then he will have all the media machinery against him, the democrat party is already critic against him and then he will have the Republican party against him as well, that means his political message will real completely on social media and Twitter/X, which he owns.

Anyways, the political scenario in the USA is already deeply controlled by their duopoly on politics, that even if Musk managed to get some seats in the congress and in the Senate, it would be quite unprecedented as nothing like that would have never been imagined to happen in the modern history of the country. Both the Democrat party and the Republican party have tightly held power and elections in the lastest decades, they are not willing to allow that to change any time soon.

[jvanname]

It is not a impossible task, but you have keep in mind that if he serious about founding his own political party and have their own congress people candidates to run for the mid term elections then he will have all the media machinery against him, the democrat party is already critic against him and then he will have the Republican party against him as well, that means his political message will real completely on social media and Twitter/X, which he owns.

Anyways, the political scenario in the USA is already deeply controlled by their duopoly on politics, that even if Musk managed to get some seats in the congress and in the Senate, it would be quite unprecedented as nothing like that would have never been imagined to happen in the modern history of the country. Both the Democrat party and the Republican party have tightly held power and elections in the lastest decades, they are not willing to allow that to change any time soon.

All of you idiots blathering on and on about Elon Musk sound incredibly stupid even though I did not read any of the bullshit all you fuckers are posting. You all need to be put on psychiatric medications because you are all a bunch of fucked up pieces of shit. Elon worshippers need to be put in prison for idolatry.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[BADecker]

Still, I doubt Elon's party will have some success in the long term. Political duopoly being kept by both the Democrat and Republican party is strong and it would take much to convince people to give their trust to Musk as a reliable politician.

It's too early to say Elon's party will fail if we know what his real goals are. It's no coincidence that Republicans have expressed concern about Elon's new party, while Democrats seem to care little. And it's no coincidence that Elon took aim at the lawmakers who voted against Trump's spending bill.

Elon's goal is for his party to run for congressional seats in the 2026 midterm elections and win some seats. That's his goal, because once the American party wins some seats in Congress, Elon may have the opportunity to block, veto bills that he believes will harm the US economy like Trump's OBBBA bill.

Winning a few seats in Congress is not an impossible task.

It is not a impossible task, but you have keep in mind that if he serious about founding his own political party and have their own congress people candidates to run for the mid term elections then he will have all the media machinery against him, the democrat party is already critic against him and then he will have the Republican party against him as well, that means his political message will real completely on social media and Twitter/X, which he owns.

Anyways, the political scenario in the USA is already deeply controlled by their duopoly on politics, that even if Musk managed to get some seats in the congress and in the Senate, it would be quite unprecedented as nothing like that would have never been imagined to happen in the modern history of the country. Both the Democrat party and the Republican party have tightly held power and elections in the lastest decades, they are not willing to allow that to change any time soon.

The other side of that is, the people might recognize the American Party as the thing that it might be... a Libertarian Party with power. In that case, we could easily see a complete change in the whole government... back to the freedom government that it used to be.

[paxmao]

Still, I doubt Elon's party will have some success in the long term. Political duopoly being kept by both the Democrat and Republican party is strong and it would take much to convince people to give their trust to Musk as a reliable politician.

It's too early to say Elon's party will fail if we know what his real goals are. It's no coincidence that Republicans have expressed concern about Elon's new party, while Democrats seem to care little. And it's no coincidence that Elon took aim at the lawmakers who voted against Trump's spending bill.

Elon's goal is for his party to run for congressional seats in the 2026 midterm elections and win some seats. That's his goal, because once the American party wins some seats in Congress, Elon may have the opportunity to block, veto bills that he believes will harm the US economy like Trump's OBBBA bill.

Winning a few seats in Congress is not an impossible task.

It is not a impossible task, but you have keep in mind that if he serious about founding his own political party and have their own congress people candidates to run for the mid term elections then he will have all the media machinery against him, the democrat party is already critic against him and then he will have the Republican party against him as well, that means his political message will real completely on social media and Twitter/X, which he owns.

Anyways, the political scenario in the USA is already deeply controlled by their duopoly on politics, that even if Musk managed to get some seats in the congress and in the Senate, it would be quite unprecedented as nothing like that would have never been imagined to happen in the modern history of the country. Both the Democrat party and the Republican party have tightly held power and elections in the lastest decades, they are not willing to allow that to change any time soon.

The other side of that is, the people might recognize the American Party as the thing that it might be... a Libertarian Party with power. In that case, we could easily see a complete change in the whole government... back to the freedom government that it used to be.

It is NOT a libertarian party, it is a party created by a Billionaire that happens to be very concerned about his business and is willing to defend them. Libertarians in all honesty have barely reached the critical mass to be considered. Even now that bitcoin has created a "millionaire elite", seems that is not yet enough to have the right level of influence.

The usual path of donations and lobbying in the background and even in the foreground did not work for Elon because Trump simply did not do what he said he was going to do. Betrayal is not taken well by Musk.

And there is a side effect to all this. There is a good chance that Trump will be prosecuted when (if?) he leaves the presidency. He has made a point of taking revenge on others and that usually comes back.

[o48o]

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And that's the point where Trump started going bonkers in some of his operations.
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Imagine going so bonkers that you lose BADecker, the guide of bonkerland.

He is not here to educate anyone, he is trying to get revenge.

BTW you can say Elon here, we are not in TweeteX and he does not read any of this nor has the ability to censor - as far as I know, this forum is full of surprises.

Anyway, Elon (AKA Elmo) wants to get just a few seat which in the current context would be enough to manage and contain the worst of Trumps policies. And while he cannot win the Presidency (not now anyway), he could perfectly be able to get a few key seats and achive some degre of leverage on Trumpy.

Fair enough. What ever causes dispersion inside the conservatives, i am personally all for it. I would have thought that Elon had burn enough bridges, but maga don't really care about bridges as they burn them inside of their own families as well.

Ironic thing in here is that while magas are fighting between themselves, they don't seem to realize that next time pendulum won't swing back in the middle, where democrats have been (which right likes to call communistic left), but way over that to the left. I am amazed how they don't seem to be aware, how are causing a counter movement.

[BADecker]

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And that's the point where Trump started going bonkers in some of his operations.
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Imagine going so bonkers that you lose BADecker, the guide of bonkerland.

He is not here to educate anyone, he is trying to get revenge.

BTW you can say Elon here, we are not in TweeteX and he does not read any of this nor has the ability to censor - as far as I know, this forum is full of surprises.

Anyway, Elon (AKA Elmo) wants to get just a few seat which in the current context would be enough to manage and contain the worst of Trumps policies. And while he cannot win the Presidency (not now anyway), he could perfectly be able to get a few key seats and achive some degre of leverage on Trumpy.

Fair enough. What ever causes dispersion inside the conservatives, i am personally all for it. I would have thought that Elon had burn enough bridges, but maga don't really care about bridges as they burn them inside of their own families as well.

Ironic thing in here is that while magas are fighting between themselves, they don't seem to realize that next time pendulum won't swing back in the middle, where democrats have been (which right likes to call communistic left), but way over that to the left. I am amazed how they don't seem to be aware, how are causing a counter movement.

If you ever understand the things at this website - https://educationcenter2000.com/ - you might possibly begin to understand what is really going on in the US.

[o48o]

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If you ever understand the things at this website - https://suspiciouslinkremoved - you might possibly begin to understand what is really going on in the US.
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That's not an argument, but a spam link. And it's not hard to see what's going in US right now.
Instead of assuming what's happening based on weirdest conspiracies and religion, you could accept the idea, that explanation with the fewest assumptions is usually correct (AKA Occam's razor).
Man is a wobbling definition of a narcist with a mental decline. And a drug addict that wore a hat saying that trump has been right about everything is now making his own party.

Really difficult stuff. 

[BADecker]

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If you ever understand the things at this website - https://suspiciouslinkremoved - you might possibly begin to understand what is really going on in the US.
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That's not an argument, but a spam link. And it's not hard to see what's going in US right now.
Instead of assuming what's happening based on weirdest conspiracies and religion, you could accept the idea, that explanation with the fewest assumptions is usually correct (AKA Occam's razor).
Man is a wobbling definition of a narcist with a mental decline. And a drug addict that wore a hat saying that trump has been right about everything is now making his own party.

Really difficult stuff. 

It's neither spam or an argument. It's simply info for those who want to learn how this all works. You don't have to learn if you don't want to.

[Hispo]

Despite Trump being... well, himself, and Musk being, in the end, a guy that is focused on his accumulation of wealth at least I would say the crypto agenda has been advanced by Trump. I am not sure he is advancing it in the right direction with that "stablecoin law" but that is a discussion for a full thread.

On Musk, he is about thinnin the state - but I would say rather selectively and certainly not on a Libertarian agenda.

Musk does not do politics for pleasure, he is ill suited for it.

I think what is going on with Musk goes beyond accumulation of wealth, to be honest. Just think about it, there are billionaires and millionaires who continue to have the steering wheel of their businesses and continue to accumulate their wealth without getting involved directly in politics. Sure, getting involved certainly accelerates the rate of accumulation since he  would turn laws on his favor, but he is already one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
My personal theory is about Elon being the kind of person who needs to constantly be the spotlight regardless what is going on in the world, he is a pathological attention seeker, unlike other billionaires who focus on increasing their fortune quietly.
Any intelligent business person whole realize that it does not matter which political party your buyers are, as long as they contribute to increase your capital, by getting involved in politics this way he was basically reduced his potential base of clients worldwide as Chinese manufacturers push forward more affordable models of electric cars.

[BADecker]

Despite Trump being... well, himself, and Musk being, in the end, a guy that is focused on his accumulation of wealth at least I would say the crypto agenda has been advanced by Trump. I am not sure he is advancing it in the right direction with that "stablecoin law" but that is a discussion for a full thread.

On Musk, he is about thinnin the state - but I would say rather selectively and certainly not on a Libertarian agenda.

Musk does not do politics for pleasure, he is ill suited for it.

I think what is going on with Musk goes beyond accumulation of wealth, to be honest. Just think about it, there are billionaires and millionaires who continue to have the steering wheel of their businesses and continue to accumulate their wealth without getting involved directly in politics. Sure, getting involved certainly accelerates the rate of accumulation since he  would turn laws on his favor, but he is already one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
My personal theory is about Elon being the kind of person who needs to constantly be the spotlight regardless what is going on in the world, he is a pathological attention seeker, unlike other billionaires who focus on increasing their fortune quietly.
Any intelligent business person whole realize that it does not matter which political party your buyers are, as long as they contribute to increase your capital, by getting involved in politics this way he was basically reduced his potential base of clients worldwide as Chinese manufacturers push forward more affordable models of electric cars.

Musk is about wealth.

In his eyes, Trump was doing a good job of things until he (Musk) left government.

The only way to improve wealth is to get rid of the current banking system, and place the money directly back under the US Treasury. Musk knows this, and he also knows that this job will be a long one... if the banking system doesn't collapse itself, first.

But you gotta start somewhere. This is Musk's start, and it just might grow far faster than anybody thinks.

[paxmao]

Despite Trump being... well, himself, and Musk being, in the end, a guy that is focused on his accumulation of wealth at least I would say the crypto agenda has been advanced by Trump. I am not sure he is advancing it in the right direction with that "stablecoin law" but that is a discussion for a full thread.

On Musk, he is about thinnin the state - but I would say rather selectively and certainly not on a Libertarian agenda.

Musk does not do politics for pleasure, he is ill suited for it.

I think what is going on with Musk goes beyond accumulation of wealth, to be honest. Just think about it, there are billionaires and millionaires who continue to have the steering wheel of their businesses and continue to accumulate their wealth without getting involved directly in politics. Sure, getting involved certainly accelerates the rate of accumulation since he  would turn laws on his favor, but he is already one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
My personal theory is about Elon being the kind of person who needs to constantly be the spotlight regardless what is going on in the world, he is a pathological attention seeker, unlike other billionaires who focus on increasing their fortune quietly.
Any intelligent business person whole realize that it does not matter which political party your buyers are, as long as they contribute to increase your capital, by getting involved in politics this way he was basically reduced his potential base of clients worldwide as Chinese manufacturers push forward more affordable models of electric cars.

If you think of it, why does a guy that owns enough to live 10 lives of massive luxury with nearly no limits not want to pay taxes?

My answer to that is that Trump is a modern Ilustrated Despot: he does not believe in Democracy nor participation because he sees himself as a superior being. And he may be above average sure, but that is not how the system works.

Thus, anything in politics he does will be to make sure he makes the decissions along with his billionaire's club.

As I am not yet a billionaire, I am unlikely to benefit from his policies. But anyway I live in Paxmania, so it is just the influence that I dislike.

[BADecker]

Despite Trump being... well, himself, and Musk being, in the end, a guy that is focused on his accumulation of wealth at least I would say the crypto agenda has been advanced by Trump. I am not sure he is advancing it in the right direction with that "stablecoin law" but that is a discussion for a full thread.

On Musk, he is about thinnin the state - but I would say rather selectively and certainly not on a Libertarian agenda.

Musk does not do politics for pleasure, he is ill suited for it.

I think what is going on with Musk goes beyond accumulation of wealth, to be honest. Just think about it, there are billionaires and millionaires who continue to have the steering wheel of their businesses and continue to accumulate their wealth without getting involved directly in politics. Sure, getting involved certainly accelerates the rate of accumulation since he  would turn laws on his favor, but he is already one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
My personal theory is about Elon being the kind of person who needs to constantly be the spotlight regardless what is going on in the world, he is a pathological attention seeker, unlike other billionaires who focus on increasing their fortune quietly.
Any intelligent business person whole realize that it does not matter which political party your buyers are, as long as they contribute to increase your capital, by getting involved in politics this way he was basically reduced his potential base of clients worldwide as Chinese manufacturers push forward more affordable models of electric cars.

If you think of it, why does a guy that owns enough to live 10 lives of massive luxury with nearly no limits not want to pay taxes?

My answer to that is that Trump is a modern Ilustrated Despot: he does not believe in Democracy nor participation because he sees himself as a superior being. And he may be above average sure, but that is not how the system works.

Thus, anything in politics he does will be to make sure he makes the decissions along with his billionaire's club.

As I am not yet a billionaire, I am unlikely to benefit from his policies. But anyway I live in Paxmania, so it is just the influence that I dislike.

The part that you forget is that you don't know what Trump is thinking.

Trump advertised MAGA long before he ever became President, even though he didn't call it MAGA back then. The thing that he didn't do was train the public how the things that he is doing is causing MAGA to happen, even though they look like they are against MAGA. Of course, if he trained the people, the Deep State would have easily seen his plan.

Trump has a particularly difficult job... producing MAGA for the people who are fighting him, so that they have true freedom along with the rest of us.

[DeathAngel]

Elon is just butt hurt about his falling out with Trump. He obviously had good intentions with his DOGE reporting but Trump obviously wasn’t happy with what he was doing. I don’t think it’s a good idea that Elon starts a new political party but he can do what he wants. I don’t think any third major political party has a chance of winning an election any time soon.

[BADecker]

Elon is just butt hurt about his falling out with Trump. He obviously had good intentions with his DOGE reporting but Trump obviously wasn’t happy with what he was doing. I don’t think it’s a good idea that Elon starts a new political party but he can do what he wants. I don’t think any third major political party has a chance of winning an election any time soon.

However, if Musk and his people speak plainly - now that people see what Trump is doing - Musk might have the greatest success of any party, even though it is a new party. The biggest problem will be the one that Trump is creating between Russia and the West. By the time new elections come about, there might not be any West.

[philipma1957]

It is not a impossible task, but you have keep in mind that if he serious about founding his own political party and have their own congress people candidates to run for the mid term elections then he will have all the media machinery against him, the democrat party is already critic against him and then he will have the Republican party against him as well, that means his political message will real completely on social media and Twitter/X, which he owns.

Anyways, the political scenario in the USA is already deeply controlled by their duopoly on politics, that even if Musk managed to get some seats in the congress and in the Senate, it would be quite unprecedented as nothing like that would have never been imagined to happen in the modern history of the country. Both the Democrat party and the Republican party have tightly held power and elections in the lastest decades, they are not willing to allow that to change any time soon.

All of you idiots blathering on and on about Elon Musk sound incredibly stupid even though I did not read any of the bullshit all you fuckers are posting. You all need to be put on psychiatric medications because you are all a bunch of fucked up pieces of shit. Elon worshippers need to be put in prison for idolatry.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

I stopped fucking decades ago.

I practice cunninglingus as the giver of it. I have given often enough to say I spent over 40 days and 40 nights nonstop if you add the time up over the last 40 years I have been generously giving to my wife.