Musk calls for the creation of a truly American party

[BADecker]

Musk decided that this is not what he voted for, nor what he supported and is now clearly playing with the idea of creating a rival party.

Musk also decided Bitcoin was dangerous to the environment, so he ceased Tesla from accepting BTC as payment method, causing a major crash in Bitcoin market years ago. He also decided to promote Shiba Inu through enigmatic and subliminal tweets, although after a while he claimed to have never promoted the token.

This guy is constantly deciding contradicting things along the time. It means he is just a manipulator playing with the masses. He knew who Trump was and how he was going to act, but it was interesting for Musk to support Trump back then, so he could act like he is doing right now. It's a game of premeditated actions and decisions.

A decaying USA commanded by Trump is what Musk needs to shine as a brand new leader.

Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

[hellflame]

Musk also decided Bitcoin was dangerous to the environment, so he ceased Tesla from accepting BTC as payment method, causing a major crash in Bitcoin market years ago. He also decided to promote Shiba Inu through enigmatic and subliminal tweets, although after a while he claimed to have never promoted the token.

This guy is constantly deciding contradicting things along the time. It means he is just a manipulator playing with the masses. He knew who Trump was and how he was going to act, but it was interesting for Musk to support Trump back then, so he could act like he is doing right now. It's a game of premeditated actions and decisions.

A decaying USA commanded by Trump is what Musk needs to shine as a brand new leader.

Very perceptive post. The series of enactments to bring about the final conclusion is what matters in this game. The masses are dumb. Their priorities are even chosen for them at any given point in time to enable the successful end to each scene. The puppet masters on behalf of the screen play writer have the puppets entertain the audience of dumb masses to bring about their reality based on script.

[Miramax12]

Musk decided that this is not what he voted for, nor what he supported and is now clearly playing with the idea of creating a rival party.

Musk also decided Bitcoin was dangerous to the environment, so he ceased Tesla from accepting BTC as payment method, causing a major crash in Bitcoin market years ago. He also decided to promote Shiba Inu through enigmatic and subliminal tweets, although after a while he claimed to have never promoted the token.

This guy is constantly deciding contradicting things along the time. It means he is just a manipulator playing with the masses. He knew who Trump was and how he was going to act, but it was interesting for Musk to support Trump back then, so he could act like he is doing right now. It's a game of premeditated actions and decisions.

A decaying USA commanded by Trump is what Musk needs to shine as a brand new leader.

Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

“Wow, this really puts Musk’s moves into perspective, It’s wild how someone with that much influence can flip positions and keep people guessing. Whether it’s politics, crypto, or business, it feels like he’s always several steps ahead, playing a complex game. I guess the big question is how much of it is genuine belief, and how much is strategy Either way, it definitely keeps the conversation interesting.”

[uneng]

Musk decided that this is not what he voted for, nor what he supported and is now clearly playing with the idea of creating a rival party.

Musk also decided Bitcoin was dangerous to the environment, so he ceased Tesla from accepting BTC as payment method, causing a major crash in Bitcoin market years ago. He also decided to promote Shiba Inu through enigmatic and subliminal tweets, although after a while he claimed to have never promoted the token.

This guy is constantly deciding contradicting things along the time. It means he is just a manipulator playing with the masses. He knew who Trump was and how he was going to act, but it was interesting for Musk to support Trump back then, so he could act like he is doing right now. It's a game of premeditated actions and decisions.

A decaying USA commanded by Trump is what Musk needs to shine as a brand new leader.

Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

Maybe Musk is part of a deeper state than the deep state we have known so far...

To make people believe he is fighting the deep state comes on the same messianic tendency which brought Trump to power. Trump was also fighting the deep state, until he wasn't anymore. It's like watching the same movie over and over again, isn't it?

With the exception Musk looks much more cunning than Trump. Not on the manner he presents himself to the public, but on the manner he acts on the backgrounds. While Trump is a vain buffon, Musk is more machiavellian and able to draw and pursue long term goals.

[Hispo]

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Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

So, since Elon has called for the creation of a new political party in the United States, because he does not longer supports Trump and the policies of the Republican party, then what you are saying essentially is that Trump is part of the Deep State.  Right?

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Specially since you have spent months literally praising Trump for being the one fighting the Deep State and how he was almost killed by the Deep State. Is he now the Deep State?

How is all this supposed to work in your head? Honestly.

[BADecker]

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Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

So, since Elon has called for the creation of a new political party in the United States, because he does not longer supports Trump and the policies of the Republican party, then what you are saying essentially is that Trump is part of the Deep State.  Right?

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Specially since you have spent months literally praising Trump for being the one fighting the Deep State and how he was almost killed by the Deep State. Is he now the Deep State?

How is all this supposed to work in your head? Honestly.

Trump is not part of the Deep State. The things that Trump is doing, are things that he is doing to infilter the Deep State, and take it down from the inside. Musk is simply operating for Trump, but from the outside.

Musk was in government for a contractual term. When that term expired, he left government. It was at that time that Trump started moving deeply into Deep State operations. Trump is not so wishy-washy that he jumps back and forth from MAGA to Deep State. Everything he does is done to tear down the Deep State and to increase MAGA. Musk is simply doing the same thing from a different direction.

Few of us are privy to EVERYTHING Musk and Trump talked about behind closed doors. Maybe nobody else is privy to it other than Musk and Trump. But we can see that Trump is not Deep State in the thing he is doing with Ukraine and Russia. He is offering Ukraine some armament, but he is making the European NATO pay for it.

Is Trump really offering armament to Ukraine? Or is he waiting for Europe to back down for lack of funds? Trump could easily do what Biden did... offer $billions to Ukraine right out in the open. But Ukraine is receiving just a trickle of armament from him, when compared with Biden. And the trickle will either stop, or European NATO will find it, increasing the strength of MAGA.

Musk is simply doing the outside of the plan. He's making MAGA strong by teaching Americans to throw off the Deep State, and to exercise freedom. But, unlike Trump, Musk is doing it directly, through his new American party.

Personally, tho I don't really know, I think that this was the Musk/Trump plan set in place between them before Musk's contractual term was up.

[paxmao]

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Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

So, since Elon has called for the creation of a new political party in the United States, because he does not longer supports Trump and the policies of the Republican party, then what you are saying essentially is that Trump is part of the Deep State.  Right?

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Specially since you have spent months literally praising Trump for being the one fighting the Deep State and how he was almost killed by the Deep State. Is he now the Deep State?

How is all this supposed to work in your head? Honestly.

He was praising Trump because Trump promised to reduce the debt, cut costs and provide a beneficial tax regime for Musk and people in the 1% of wealth in the US. Trump did a U turn and ended up raising the debt, putting tariffs, not cutting expenses and ... well, you have to pay for the party, so taxes are needed.

It makes perfect sense to create another party that plans to do actually what Trump promised and did not.

[Hispo]

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Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

So, since Elon has called for the creation of a new political party in the United States, because he does not longer supports Trump and the policies of the Republican party, then what you are saying essentially is that Trump is part of the Deep State.  Right?

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Specially since you have spent months literally praising Trump for being the one fighting the Deep State and how he was almost killed by the Deep State. Is he now the Deep State?

How is all this supposed to work in your head? Honestly.

He was praising Trump because Trump promised to reduce the debt, cut costs and provide a beneficial tax regime for Musk and people in the 1% of wealth in the US. Trump did a U turn and ended up raising the debt, putting tariffs, not cutting expenses and ... well, you have to pay for the party, so taxes are needed.

It makes perfect sense to create another party that plans to do actually what Trump promised and did not.

Though, it is kind of strange to see people who supported both Trump and Musk to do some mental maneuvers in order to continue to support both of them, when it has been very clear they have become antagonistic figures which are openly confronting one another. That seems to be the case of BD, he does not seem to be able to admit Trump has become part of the deep state he hates with passion. It is kind of interesting the way people need to delude themselves in order to keep their reality un touched and not to face reality.

And reality is Trump and Musk are slowly becoming enemies, if the deep state exist, then it must laughing it's ass off because of all this wacky situation going on in the United States.

[BADecker]

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He was praising Trump because Trump promised to reduce the debt, cut costs and provide a beneficial tax regime for Musk and people in the 1% of wealth in the US. Trump did a U turn and ended up raising the debt, putting tariffs, not cutting expenses and ... well, you have to pay for the party, so taxes are needed.

It makes perfect sense to create another party that plans to do actually what Trump promised and did not.

Though, it is kind of strange to see people who supported both Trump and Musk to do some mental maneuvers in order to continue to support both of them, when it has been very clear they have become antagonistic figures which are openly confronting one another. That seems to be the case of BD, he does not seem to be able to admit Trump has become part of the deep state he hates with passion. It is kind of interesting the way people need to delude themselves in order to keep their reality un touched and not to face reality.

And reality is Trump and Musk are slowly becoming enemies, if the deep state exist, then it must laughing it's ass off because of all this wacky situation going on in the United States.

You're wrong about Trump, and there is an easy way to see it.

The Biden Administration sent over $100-billion in armament and money to Ukraine. Maybe over $200-billion. If Trump were Deep State, he could do the same. Maybe he will, later. But for the moment, all he is doing is getting Europe to finance what he sends... if they really have the money and really want to pay. By the time Europe comes up with the money to pay the US, Ukraine will be totally Russia.

Just because Trump talks loudly at times doesn't mean he says everything. And you jokers are too stupid to recognize this.

Whether or not Musk is just playing along with Trump, What Musk is doing is a step towards MAGA... a step that would have to be done somewhere along the line, anyway.

[paxmao]

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Except for one thing. Musk in all his moves is fighting the Deep State one way or another.

So, since Elon has called for the creation of a new political party in the United States, because he does not longer supports Trump and the policies of the Republican party, then what you are saying essentially is that Trump is part of the Deep State.  Right?

You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Specially since you have spent months literally praising Trump for being the one fighting the Deep State and how he was almost killed by the Deep State. Is he now the Deep State?

How is all this supposed to work in your head? Honestly.

He was praising Trump because Trump promised to reduce the debt, cut costs and provide a beneficial tax regime for Musk and people in the 1% of wealth in the US. Trump did a U turn and ended up raising the debt, putting tariffs, not cutting expenses and ... well, you have to pay for the party, so taxes are needed.

It makes perfect sense to create another party that plans to do actually what Trump promised and did not.

Though, it is kind of strange to see people who supported both Trump and Musk to do some mental maneuvers in order to continue to support both of them, when it has been very clear they have become antagonistic figures which are openly confronting one another. That seems to be the case of BD, he does not seem to be able to admit Trump has become part of the deep state he hates with passion. It is kind of interesting the way people need to delude themselves in order to keep their reality un touched and not to face reality.

And reality is Trump and Musk are slowly becoming enemies, if the deep state exist, then it must laughing it's ass off because of all this wacky situation going on in the United States.

They are becoming enemies quite fast! I mean... a threat to weaponise immigration laws to remove Musk from the country does not look like "friendly" to me.

I think Trump is making a mistake when bullying and taking revenge in general, even against previous presidents that served the US well - this can easily come back to him when (if) he leaves office alive, and if not to his children. Revenge is simply a bad idea when you have so many interests that can be destroyed.

But the biggest of the mistakes is bullying Musk. It is just crazy stupid to go against an enemy with such firepower in the banks.

[BADecker]

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Though, it is kind of strange to see people who supported both Trump and Musk to do some mental maneuvers in order to continue to support both of them, when it has been very clear they have become antagonistic figures which are openly confronting one another. That seems to be the case of BD, he does not seem to be able to admit Trump has become part of the deep state he hates with passion. It is kind of interesting the way people need to delude themselves in order to keep their reality un touched and not to face reality.

And reality is Trump and Musk are slowly becoming enemies, if the deep state exist, then it must laughing it's ass off because of all this wacky situation going on in the United States.

They are becoming enemies quite fast! I mean... a threat to weaponise immigration laws to remove Musk from the country does not look like "friendly" to me.

I think Trump is making a mistake when bullying and taking revenge in general, even against previous presidents that served the US well - this can easily come back to him when (if) he leaves office alive, and if not to his children. Revenge is simply a bad idea when you have so many interests that can be destroyed.

But the biggest of the mistakes is bullying Musk. It is just crazy stupid to go against an enemy with such firepower in the banks.

Somebody looking at your posts might think you were posting the way you do because of this or that. But nobody really knows your thinking and logic, even (especially?) when you tell them what you think. Even so, nobody knows what Trump or Musk are really thinking. They had lots of time to make plans before Musk left government. After all, that was the time when their paths seemed to diverge.

I say that they are on the same path... MAGA. Just from parallel but different standpoints. And, it was their plan to do this all along.

[jvanname]

I do not have autism. I do not have Aspergers or assburgers or whatever it is called. I am just mentally retarded. But I am not as retarded as all of the motherfuckers who worship me or otherwise talk about me non-stop. Those idiots are truly fucked up. Those fuckers on bitcointalk are especially fucked up because they know nothing. Go Doge.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[BADecker]

I do not have autism. I do not have Aspergers or assburgers or whatever it is called. I am just mentally retarded. But I am not as retarded as all of the motherfuckers who worship me or otherwise talk about me non-stop. Those idiots are truly fucked up. Those fuckers on bitcointalk are especially fucked up because they know nothing. Go Doge.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Musk generally doesn't talk like you say he does. It sound more like you would talk and simply attribute it to Musk.

[jvanname]

Musk generally doesn't talk like you say he does. It sound more like you would talk and simply attribute it to Musk.

Hmm. It seems as if BADecker does not know how parodies work. Perhaps someone could inform that entity.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[paxmao]

The best clue as to understand how scared may be Trump and the Magatards is observing dumBAdeker covering the thread with "M*AGAS" all over or at leas trying 

Let's face it, Trump has chosen the wrong guy to pick a fight and has done it very stupidly because it is absolutely true that Trump failed to deliver his promise of not increasing the debt.

[BADecker]

The best clue as to understand how scared may be Trump and the Magatards is observing dumBAdeker covering the thread with "M*AGAS" all over or at leas trying 

Let's face it, Trump has chosen the wrong guy to pick a fight and has done it very stupidly because it is absolutely true that Trump failed to deliver his promise of not increasing the debt.

Just to show how scared paxmao is about his US funds to the UK being cut off, look at how he is trying to pit Americans against Americans. He'd fit right in, in America. But he wouldn't have the funds, then.

[paxmao]

The best clue as to understand how scared may be Trump and the Magatards is observing dumBAdeker covering the thread with "M*AGAS" all over or at leas trying 

Let's face it, Trump has chosen the wrong guy to pick a fight and has done it very stupidly because it is absolutely true that Trump failed to deliver his promise of not increasing the debt.

Just to show how scared paxmao is about his US funds to the UK being cut off, look at how he is trying to pit Americans against Americans. He'd fit right in, in America. But he wouldn't have the funds, then.

Interesting... US citizens agains US citizens you mean?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/trump-divided-america-civil-war

Trump leaves America at its most divided since the Civil War
The January 6 assault on the US Capitol capped four years in which Trump relentlessly stoked the nation’s divisions and simultaneously provided oxygen for the growth of White nationalist extremism through his open embrace of racist language and conspiracy theories.

In the process, Trump has not only shattered the barriers between the Republican Party and far-right extremists but also enormously intensified a trend that predated him: a growing willingness inside the GOP’s mainstream to employ anti-small-d-democratic means to maintain power in a country demographically evolving away from the party.

The result has been to raise the stakes in the ideological polarization of the parties that has been reshaping American politics for decades.

The fact is that Trump is governing AGAINST the states that actually pay the US bills, and he is surprised that people do not want to play ball.

I think we need Gavin Newson to bring the US together and also to its financial senses. I will now open a thread on the draft to try to remove Jerome Powel from the Fed. You are going to love how much does Trump want to unite "Americans".

[BADecker]

The best clue as to understand how scared may be Trump and the Magatards is observing dumBAdeker covering the thread with "M*AGAS" all over or at leas trying 

Let's face it, Trump has chosen the wrong guy to pick a fight and has done it very stupidly because it is absolutely true that Trump failed to deliver his promise of not increasing the debt.

Just to show how scared paxmao is about his US funds to the UK being cut off, look at how he is trying to pit Americans against Americans. He'd fit right in, in America. But he wouldn't have the funds, then.

Interesting... US citizens agains US citizens you mean?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/trump-divided-america-civil-war

Trump leaves America at its most divided since the Civil War
The January 6 assault on the US Capitol capped four years in which Trump relentlessly stoked the nation’s divisions and simultaneously provided oxygen for the growth of White nationalist extremism through his open embrace of racist language and conspiracy theories.

In the process, Trump has not only shattered the barriers between the Republican Party and far-right extremists but also enormously intensified a trend that predated him: a growing willingness inside the GOP’s mainstream to employ anti-small-d-democratic means to maintain power in a country demographically evolving away from the party.

The result has been to raise the stakes in the ideological polarization of the parties that has been reshaping American politics for decades.

The fact is that Trump is governing AGAINST the states that actually pay the US bills, and he is surprised that people do not want to play ball.

I think we need Gavin Newson to bring the US together and also to its financial senses. I will now open a thread on the draft to try to remove Jerome Powel from the Fed. You are going to love how much does Trump want to unite "Americans".

I don't blame you. Most American citizens (men and women) think they are US citizens ('persons', names on some paperwork).

People in America just don't realize that they are American citizens and not US citizens. People at the time of the American Revolution in 1776 realized it to a great extent. By the time the Civil War came around, government and the media had tricked most of them into forgetting it.

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Gavin Newsom IS bringing America together. He is doing it by making so much trouble for Americans that they are finding out that they are American citizens, and not US citizens. Of course, he isn't trying to do this. But it is working out this way incidentally and accidentally.

[paxmao]

The best clue as to understand how scared may be Trump and the Magatards is observing dumBAdeker covering the thread with "M*AGAS" all over or at leas trying 

Let's face it, Trump has chosen the wrong guy to pick a fight and has done it very stupidly because it is absolutely true that Trump failed to deliver his promise of not increasing the debt.

Just to show how scared paxmao is about his US funds to the UK being cut off, look at how he is trying to pit Americans against Americans. He'd fit right in, in America. But he wouldn't have the funds, then.

Interesting... US citizens agains US citizens you mean?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/trump-divided-america-civil-war

Trump leaves America at its most divided since the Civil War
The January 6 assault on the US Capitol capped four years in which Trump relentlessly stoked the nation’s divisions and simultaneously provided oxygen for the growth of White nationalist extremism through his open embrace of racist language and conspiracy theories.

In the process, Trump has not only shattered the barriers between the Republican Party and far-right extremists but also enormously intensified a trend that predated him: a growing willingness inside the GOP’s mainstream to employ anti-small-d-democratic means to maintain power in a country demographically evolving away from the party.

The result has been to raise the stakes in the ideological polarization of the parties that has been reshaping American politics for decades.

The fact is that Trump is governing AGAINST the states that actually pay the US bills, and he is surprised that people do not want to play ball.

I think we need Gavin Newson to bring the US together and also to its financial senses. I will now open a thread on the draft to try to remove Jerome Powel from the Fed. You are going to love how much does Trump want to unite "Americans".

I don't blame you. Most American citizens (men and women) think they are US citizens ('persons', names on some paperwork).

People in America just don't realize that they are American citizens and not US citizens. People at the time of the American Revolution in 1776 realized it to a great extent. By the time the Civil War came around, government and the media had tricked most of them into forgetting it.

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Gavin Newsom IS bringing America together. He is doing it by making so much trouble for Americans that they are finding out that they are American citizens, and not US citizens. Of course, he isn't trying to do this. But it is working out this way incidentally and accidentally.

Breaking this to you: America is a continent and there have probably been more than 100 revolutions all over it. You do not have the right to call the US revolution the American revolution.

Now, if you want to thread lightly, you would not be an US citizen (supposing you are, I give a 50% chance you work for China). Since you want to go back to the war agains the King of England, the US did not exist. There were only colonies and... tb honest Texas was not there.... so if you were born in Texas, using your same logic... YOU ARE SPANIARD