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July 17, 2025, 02:29:53 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2025, 04:49:38 PM by DragonSlots
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Well, I don't know if it's the right place to say this, but I feel I need to talk.
About 10 days ago, he sent me a message on Bitcointalk. It was a contest manager @therise (the rise) asked if he could help manage one of our events. I said yes. We already had someone for that job, but we thought givinghim this task would make things easier. At first, everything was fine.
He asked me to change some things to make it more attractive. I followed his advice.
But a few days later, things didn’t go well (there was a lack of communication). He didn’t manage the event properly. Still, I told him it was okay as long as he was trying his best.
After that, he start saying some rude things and in each time in each time we talk about the contest. He doesn't know how to talk kind. But I couldn't cancel the campaign...it's not that easy as you know!
On the last day, he noticed only one person had joined. So he asked me if he could take part. I said no, he was the manager, and that would be unfair. But he kept insisting because he knew he would win. He pushed so hard that I felt uncomfortable. In the end, I accepted (and it was a mistake on my part).
I told him he had to follow the rules if he wanted to join. He refused to respect the requirements and became rude. He started insulting me and the project. He wanted us to change the rules just to win.
I reminded him that, as the manager, he should respect the rules, WELL not break them. But he kept saying bad things (to make it simple he wanted to join the event without applying the contest code)
Then he started ruining the event. He rewrote the rules in huge text and finally canceled the contest.

I have hired many contest managers in the past, they are all respectful. I don't know what is going on, to be honest. I've never seen anything like this.
Now, we can't even send the refund (to our only player who respected rules) because he locked the topic but I will DM directly. So no problem!
I'm expecting he will say negative things about me or the project because he is simply not kind!
PS/ He is contacting me now to give me back the management fees that we paid him. You can keep them, we want nothing from you!

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July 17, 2025, 02:37:00 PM
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You can move this to the reputation board since it's clear the user violated some rules managing the contest for you..

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July 17, 2025, 02:44:32 PM
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Move this topic to reputation, I'm ready to provide all the evidence of our conversation.

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July 17, 2025, 03:07:22 PM
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Move this topic to reputation, I'm ready to provide all the evidence of our conversation.

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Don't worry.

You want to share our pro conversation? This shows how you professional you are. From my side I can’t share the private conversation in public because it’s confidential and about business. But I can share screenshots that show your rude behavior and what you said to me.
The real problem here is your attitude, and how you forced the contest to close by ruining it when we didn’t let you join. You begged me to participate, and I told you it was a conflict of interest. After you kept insisting, I said yes. What happened next is already above...

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July 17, 2025, 03:10:39 PM
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Move this topic to reputation, I'm ready to provide all the evidence of our conversation.

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Don't worry.

You want to share our pro conversation? This shows how you professional you are. From my side I can’t share the private conversation in public because it’s confidential and about business. But I can share screenshots that show your rude behavior and what you said to me.
The real problem here is your attitude, and how you forced the contest to close by ruining it when we didn’t let you join. You begged me to participate, and I told you it was a conflict of interest. After you kept insisting, I said yes. What happened next is already above...
As I said, move this topic to reputation, everything will be fine.

If that's your accusation, go ahead with your arguments, but I'm with the people who participated, and I don't want them to be disappointed...

Let's quickly move this to reputation, I'm ready to speak openly there.


I don't want to prolong this matter, and I have absolutely no bad words for you and the casino for the people you mentioned.

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July 17, 2025, 04:22:48 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2025, 04:32:54 PM by xLays
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I already reported this to the moderator to move it to the correct board. Soon, this will be in the Reputation board. But you can also move it yourself, OP. Just look at the lower left part of your screen, click Move Topic and choose the Reputation board.

My comment about the rise wanting to join the contest he manage you should respect your client’s decision. You are the one who should follow them, not your client. Although some clients allow their managers to join contests, if they don’t want you to join the campaign/contest you manage just let it be.


Edit: already been moved to the reputation board.

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July 17, 2025, 04:58:52 PM
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I also don't want to share our conversation publicly, but if circumstances force me, I might share some snippets, but damaging your image isn't my goal.

I apologize in advance if my clarification isn't clear. I don't want to put us in a bad light.

First of all, I was wrong due to the slight pressure, and I didn't use any foul language on her.

Secondly, I also want to protect participants who want to participate in our contest. I don't want participants to be disappointed with me due to the changed rules. That's why I wrote in large letters in the contest topic, but I later deleted it.

Regarding forcing myself to join the contest, it seems unethical, but I admit that and want to join. However, behind that, I also have a goal: what if other participants experience the same thing as me, entering without a contest code, making deposits, and seeking multipliers after winning, suddenly being deemed invalid?

This is my clarification on this case.

And once again, I apologize for not being able to share our conversation publicly.

I don't want this problem to continue, so it must be resolved immediately, and the topic this is closed

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Doesn't look good... No "manager" should try to force themselves into a contest. Its bad etiquette and highly unprofessional.

This is a placeholder comment because I need to remind myself to look into something tomorrow.

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Doesn't look good... No "manager" should try to force themselves into a contest. Its bad etiquette and highly unprofessional.

This is a placeholder comment because I need to remind myself to look into something tomorrow.
Yes, I know that, sir, but initially he allowed me to.

If we agreed to show all the conversations uncensored, I was willing.

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Then what is your reason for block me, and changing the rules as you please?

I don't want any funds from either of you.

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OP, if you are not satisfied with his services, don't hire him next time. @the rise, if you are not happy with the way things turned out, improve your service and communication skills. The management market in Bitcointalk is highly competitive, you need more positive remarks to excel in this business.

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Just as it is unfair for a judge to judge his own case, it is also unfair for a manager to try to force himself into his own competition. This does not look good at all and seems a bit ridiculous.

I think it is better to settle the matter through gentle conversation before making it more ridiculous. Or if the two sides cannot come to a solution, I hope the participation of the esteemed forum members.











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July 17, 2025, 05:41:38 PM
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I think it is better to settle the matter through gentle conversation before making it more ridiculous. Or if the two sides cannot come to a solution, I hope the participation of the esteemed forum members.
I actually want to see the drama continue longer.

The most important point now is the conversation between both of them, we see both of them defend themselves and which one is right, but for sure this make @the rise looks not good, I'm just curious what was the conversation that make @OP think it's rude.


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July 17, 2025, 06:01:33 PM
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Why are you two arguing?

Aren't you two already messing everything up?
I see the rules keep changing.

Thankfully, I haven't had a chance to participate yet.

I've been watching you guys run the contest from the start, but it wouldn't hurt for you two to share some screenshots.

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July 17, 2025, 06:12:14 PM
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Just share the damn logs and let the dt decide who is the asshole.

The way it currently is, only bark no bite.

I wanna see some bites.

One of the parties is clearly unpleasant and doesn’t agree with what happened. The other party admits slight wrongdoing but we don’t know if it deserves any dt action.

And if the OP isn’t after any DT action, why create this thread in the first place?

Don’t say I don’t wanna share the logs becuz ethics and shiet, clearly neither of you will care if the other one shares it.

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July 17, 2025, 06:25:13 PM
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Regarding forcing myself to join the contest, it seems unethical, but I admit that and want to join. However, behind that, I also have a goal: what if other participants experience the same thing as me, entering without a contest code, making deposits, and seeking multipliers after winning, suddenly being deemed invalid?

But you are the contest facilitator there, not a participant. Since there will be Top 5 winners and only a single one participated, it seems you want to be a sure winner too. It's better instead if you put a disclaimer that the contest might not be pushed if only a few participate, or just extend the contest period.

I'm curious about OP's claim that you are being rude and disrespectful just because of the disagreement.

You can share the screenshot of the conversation here and prove OP wrong. Otherwise, hmmm, no comment for now.

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Sorry, after we discussed it we both chose to make peace

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Last edit: July 18, 2025, 11:00:25 AM by DragonSlots
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Sorry, after we discussed it we both chose to make peace
I accept your apologize.

Edit:
I shared everything here to make thing clear:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550673.msg65595973#msg65595973

DISCLAIMER: There is a member (@The Rise) trying to do his best to ruin our reputation after we caught him using his alts accounts to win contests & create fake conversations... Now he got banned from the majority of casino contests for cheating the community. Here is his cheating case with alts accounts
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