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August 15, 2025, 09:54:21 PM
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The only way the rate of poverty can decrease in developing countries is to first end corruption. Leaders must be ready to serve and not to steal funds meant for the public. Another important step is for the country to focus on production rather than solely depending on imports. In countries like China, the rate of corruption is very low, and China is a productive country that manufactures most goods, which has boosted its economy. The problems of developing countries are corruption and consumption without production. With all these issues, it is impossible for a country like this to be free from poverty.
This seems very simple to do, but it is actually a very difficult condition to eradicate because, in the end, corruption completely disrupts everything, including the country's developing economy.

As is currently happening in my country, I do not intend to portray the country in a negative light, but the reality is that corruption in my country is extremely difficult to unravel. The amounts uncovered are growing larger over time, and these funds could easily be used to pay off the national debt or build adequate infrastructure for the country's development.
It is difficult to eradicate because the network is growing larger. Even looking at the penalties imposed, I wonder whether the law enforcement officials who impose those penalties are also part of the network, as it seems odd and even advantageous for the corrupt individuals.

This is certainly an issue that must be addressed, but for developing or underdeveloped countries, eradicating corruption is clearly no easy task, especially given the limited human resources available, where awareness of the need to build and develop is still low, and the focus remains on individual gain.

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August 16, 2025, 07:30:26 AM
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I will answer based on the situation of my country which still can be called as developing countries and for every election every president candidates makes the words out of poverty as their promises this because they want my country to being an strong country from economic but in fact those president cannot even make it even the current condition is quite worst which unemployment rate is increasing

Out from poverty cannot be solved in the short term so i still didn't believe the current government can really keeping their promises especially the number of corruption cases are increasing rapidly too which i thought this is the main reason why my country always be poor because government officials do corruption openly without any sense of guilt

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August 16, 2025, 08:26:41 AM
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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?

Well the answers have a lot of factors involved. Each country should have their own strengths that they could exploit. Some countries made use of their resources to make products that they could offer to the rest of the world. They depended a lot on exporting goods to other countries inviting money into theirs. Some countries focused on education making their young generations literate and skilled workers boosting their economy productivity. Most of all, these are all possible because of the low level of corruption. I did not say totally free because that seems to be a myth lol.

So what do you think is your country missing to get out of being a third world country stage?
After the fall of the Soviet Union, there was a terrible economic situation in my country. You had to be in line for hours to just buy a bread and even this bread was limited and if you wanted to buy more, you had to know someone. Everyone was very poor but now lots of people live a very wealthy lifestyle. During the Soviet Union, borders were closed but once the Soviet Union fell, after a few years, we could travel in Europe. Almost every family has one emigrant in our country, they work mostly in Europe to take care of elder people and do some other stuff. They spend money in their country from Europe and then many people started businesses, bought new things and slowly, over years, we escaped poverty but there is still one bad fact, local salaries are very low and hard to live on but people aren't poor because almost everyone has one emigrant.

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August 16, 2025, 01:22:50 PM
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How do developing countries end up escaping poverty?
Give investors at a level of security and high trust, bring in investors into from outside, provide natural resources, give investors to open their businesses and businesses, in that way the country is in overcoming poverty.

Singapore, Malaysia is one of the best examples out of poverty, their economy is prosperous, the two countries are small in limited natural resources, but because they bring investors from outside And provide land to build factories and industries so that their economy grows every day, raw materials they buy outside of exports, they produce and import, that's the best way to overcome poverty.

Other developing countries are also the case, they also do the same thing, such as Cyprus and others.

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August 16, 2025, 01:55:49 PM
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So what do you think is your country missing to get out of being a third world country stage?
Discipline. Every countries which managed to escape poverty were disciplined towards their goals and when overcoming challenges. The formula isn't the same for every countries, but it's a common elements in all of them. China is an example of country where discipline were enforced through the government's iron fists. Citizens were forced to be disciplined, otherwise they would be punished.

In USA, on the other hand, discipline has been promoted by motivational and inspirational speeches from the leaders to the citizens since US wasn't even a country yet, but a british colony.

What I mean is: how exact opposite values (tyrany and freedom) were responsible for introducing discipline in effective ways inside local societies.

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August 16, 2025, 02:22:55 PM
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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?

Well the answers have a lot of factors involved. Each country should have their own strengths that they could exploit. Some countries made use of their resources to make products that they could offer to the rest of the world. They depended a lot on exporting goods to other countries inviting money into theirs. Some countries focused on education making their young generations literate and skilled workers boosting their economy productivity. Most of all, these are all possible because of the low level of corruption. I did not say totally free because that seems to be a myth lol.

So what do you think is your country missing to get out of being a third world country stage?
My country doesn't miss anything to get out of the third world country stage because it's actually one of the wealthiest country but this is a very interesting topic for discussion. Germany got destroyed to death after world wars and it managed to become the number 3 economy in the world. Ireland was also a very poor country and it became a very rich one with their very smart strategy, that included becoming a tax haven for giant American tech companies, they added English as one of the official language and actively use it, which hugely benefited the country. Ireland invested into education too and tech.

Investment into education and technology is the key to success along with the hard work and dedication. Corruption and trying to ruin each-other's life is what kills the country. Being selfish about wealth and education is what kills the country. When the leaders of the developing countries will understand that improving life of their citizens will automatically skyrocket their quality of life, then these countries will escape poverties.

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August 16, 2025, 06:36:42 PM
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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?
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It's their leaders and their citizens' desire to become a developed and progressive nation. Take Singapore, for example, once considered a poor nation, has now achieved rapid progress and become a developed nation. Lee Kuan Yew ruled Singapore with an iron fist, issuing policies to maximize foreign investment. He also invested heavily in education, eradicated corruption, built infrastructure, and recognized Singapore's geographical limitations as opportunities.

Not all countries can achieve this, due to high levels of corruption, cowardly leaders who fail to recognize opportunities, a largely vulnerable and poorly educated population, and many other issues. This explains why many developing countries today remain developing, even after decades of independence.

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Not all countries can achieve this, due to high levels of corruption, cowardly leaders who fail to recognize opportunities, a largely vulnerable and poorly educated population, and many other issues. This explains why many developing countries today remain developing, even after decades of independence.

Corruption is a major problem for some countries because the presence of such leaders actually points to a downward trend in a country's progress.
Low education is also a reason why people find it difficult to escape poverty, although this is sometimes not a benchmark.
Countries with abundant natural resources also sometimes experience poverty problems, and this reflects a leader's incompetence in managing the country properly.
I highlight the country where I live. We have quite abundant natural resources, yet poverty remains quite high to this day.

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There are many countries that cannot come out of poverty, mainly because of their politics. In my opinion, there are many countries that are economically very developed but they fail to create a developed state. Basically, this is because of political reasons where the leaders take money from most of the industrial sectors and smuggle it abroad and do not build any industrial factories in the country, as a result of which the country continues to become poor. There are many countries that are very top in exports but even though they are economically developed, they cannot build a developed state, rather the reason is that the money of that country is smuggled abroad. Basically, my country exports much more than this import and is also financially ahead, but due to political diplomacy, most of the money is smuggled out of the country. As a result, the country does not develop, but everyone thinks that they will go and live in a developed country and live there. However, in my opinion, if the country's money can be kept in the country and used to build trade and factories, then a country will develop very easily.

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There are many countries that cannot come out of poverty, mainly because of their politics. In my opinion, there are many countries that are economically very developed but they fail to create a developed state. Basically, this is because of political reasons where the leaders take money from most of the industrial sectors and smuggle it abroad and do not build any industrial factories in the country, as a result of which the country continues to become poor. There are many countries that are very top in exports but even though they are economically developed, they cannot build a developed state, rather the reason is that the money of that country is smuggled abroad. Basically, my country exports much more than this import and is also financially ahead, but due to political diplomacy, most of the money is smuggled out of the country. As a result, the country does not develop, but everyone thinks that they will go and live in a developed country and live there. However, in my opinion, if the country's money can be kept in the country and used to build trade and factories, then a country will develop very easily.


i agree with you, corrupt leaders siphoning off money and stashing it abroad is a huge reason why some places stay stuck, even when they’re economically developed on paper. If the profits from all those exports were actually reinvested into building factories, infrastructure, or even just basic services, it could be a game-changer. Instead, it’s like the country’s bleeding wealth, and folks end up dreaming of bouncing to somewhere else.

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I think Victor Gao (a Chinese international analyst) once said something quite interesting and highly relevant about how a poor or developing country can become a developed nation. The first thing that must be done is to create a roadmap for modernization, urbanization, and domestic industrialization. Simply put, this is about determining the direction and goals a country wants to achieve within a certain timeframe. According to Victor Gao, there are no concepts from developed countries that can be copied and pasted to instantly transform a developing country into a developed nation and escape poverty.
In reality, many developing countries struggle to create their own roadmaps. We recognize the numerous challenges, primarily due to poor political systems, not to mention the problem of corruption. In my opinion, those are some of the important points that might need to be done by developing countries so that they can gradually get out of poverty.
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Thank you for sharing the video, this video reminded me of countries like North Korea, Pakistan and even African countries, which despite these countries (Pakistan and North Korea) being at the top in terms of military power, people live in poverty and are severely oppressed. On the other hand, what a miserable situation African countries live in with all those mineral resources and fertile soil. And you really can't solve the problem of poverty overnight with a simple copy-paste, considering what I said in my last reply, one of the most basic ways is not to sell raw materials and smuggle the country's capital abroad.
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Sometimes you don't need to be president: To be a Dangote in Nigeria is enough:

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Dangote already has plans to tighten his hold on other sectors of Nigeria’s economy. He wants his fertilizer plant to become the largest in the world. And he’s asked for a permit to build Nigeria’s biggest, deepest seaport. “We need to industrialize Africa,” Dangote says. “We need to make sure that we produce what we consume. I don’t want Africa to be a dumping ground for other nations.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-08-20/nigeria-s-aliko-dangote-wants-to-dominate-his-country-s-oil-refining
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Out from poverty cannot be solved in the short term so i still didn't believe the current government can really keeping their promises especially the number of corruption cases are increasing rapidly too which i thought this is the main reason why my country always be poor because government officials do corruption openly without any sense of guilt
Yes, it is not possible to end corruption in a short time, but the most important thing is to first have a good leader. Even if he is not able to completely end corruption, his presence at least will be able to reduce the corruption rate.

At least there will be improvement in every sector. Many people believe that having a good leader makes it impossible to end corruption because of the level of corrupt practices. However, we shouldn't just think about whether it can end or not; instead, let's think of someone who can be different from others because a little step of change can make a big difference.

If the system changes, it will be easy to have leaders who are competent and ready to serve, but when there are only corrupt leaders in all arms of government, corruption increases.

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I think the main reason a country is in poverty is because there are flaws in that country's government system, and that flaw is basically corruption. If corruption can be eliminated from this one country, then poverty can also be easily eliminated from that country.

You're point is spot on. If the government can reduce the amount of yearly budget that they embezzle, there will be enough money circulated around the country. Because of the bad government, no enough money is circulating in the country. Which is very bad for a country where the currency value is depreciating massively every year. At least everybody, should have a comfortable home, and live comfortably. Well, it will be very difficult to eliminate poverty since there will always be greedy and selfish government in my country.

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August 27, 2025, 04:03:22 PM
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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?


Certainly the rate of poverty is on the higher sides and then trying to manuevre ones way to get out of it isn't as easy as it may seems. And that's why the process of recycling is done over and over again making them source for ways to escape poverty while they remain in debts.

So I really think it's going to be a hard but to crack seeing how most developed countries tend to escape this aspects.
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Some countries especially African are facing high level of poverty yet there leaders fail to know that all because of selfishness and greedy mindset that have blindfolded them such that they won't know the effect of what they are doing. The first approach to overcome poverty is coming to realise the rate of poverty in the country before talking about working towards eradicating it. Example, from year 1990 china realised the importance of understanding there position when it comes to poverty rating, then started working on there economy that lead to drastic change from that 1990-2005 and more changes are still in progress till now. So identifying the problem is what should be done before thinking of taking drastic decisions that will help in revamping the economic situation of the country.
 

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You're point is spot on. If the government can reduce the amount of yearly budget that they embezzle, there will be enough money circulated around the country. Because of the bad government, no enough money is circulating in the country. Which is very bad for a country where the currency value is depreciating massively every year. At least everybody, should have a comfortable home, and live comfortably. Well, it will be very difficult to eliminate poverty since there will always be greedy and selfish government in my country.
I will say here that even if there is no need to cut the budget. If they had not embezzled the budget or committed corruption and had used the budgets in the right amount and in the right places, I don't think that word would ever have been in Poverty.
But if we look at the news, we will see that in developing countries, the budget for roads is higher than the budget for 1 kilometer of road in a developed country, but the road conditions are always bad because only one-fourth of that budget is used for road work and the remaining three percent is embezzled by government bureaucrats and leaders. And this is why those countries never get rid of poverty.

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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?

Well the answers have a lot of factors involved. Each country should have their own strengths that they could exploit. Some countries made use of their resources to make products that they could offer to the rest of the world. They depended a lot on exporting goods to other countries inviting money into theirs. Some countries focused on education making their young generations literate and skilled workers boosting their economy productivity. Most of all, these are all possible because of the low level of corruption. I did not say totally free because that seems to be a myth lol.

So what do you think is your country missing to get out of being a third world country stage?


What I'd say my country needs to get out of poverty is concentrated industrialization, technology and innovation, increased security, and good governance. The development of a country is influenced by many factors, and sometimes, some of these factors are linked together. They affect each other in positive and negative ways.

Say,  for instance, when a country is secure, it'll attract tourists and foreign investors. This would in turn increase the GDP of that country. Technology and innovation aids industrialization. A country with bad governance can't grow nor develop. Carrying out business activities would be difficult, and bad policies hinders growth.

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August 28, 2025, 11:15:29 AM
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Developing countries escaping poverty is not unheard of and in fact a lot of the strongest economies now are ones that used to struggle before. China used to be called the sleeping giant because it was believed to be of potential. And that was right. But the question is why is it that those countries got out of poverty while some did not?

Well the answers have a lot of factors involved. Each country should have their own strengths that they could exploit. Some countries made use of their resources to make products that they could offer to the rest of the world. They depended a lot on exporting goods to other countries inviting money into theirs. Some countries focused on education making their young generations literate and skilled workers boosting their economy productivity. Most of all, these are all possible because of the low level of corruption. I did not say totally free because that seems to be a myth lol.

So what do you think is your country missing to get out of being a third world country stage?
In the development of a country, human resources, good governance and control of corruption, proper economic system, proper use of resources and development of political infrastructure are the basis. Especially improving the quality of education so that everyone can use their strength. If there is no skill, then the people of that country will not be able to lead the country towards development. No resource is useful without educated, aware and skilled people with proper education.
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