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April 05, 2014, 02:18:02 AM
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made this specialy for the Chinese Banners

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Happy Friday night to the "F*ck China!" thread.
// Checking to make sure it is Friday night, the days fly by too fast.

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April 05, 2014, 10:38:57 AM
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My understanding is that neither China nor Russia "banned" bitcoin.
Rather the government officials there decided that commercial banks can not participate in or enable bitcoin.
 Huh
I could be wrong on both accounts.

This is accurate.  

They basically have decoupled the virtual currency markets from their fiat markets and imposed bans on any sort of bridging between the 2.

Because sellers are not able to cash out to the fiat market, noone in their right minds would take virtual currency as payment for even a loaf of bread.  Also, because of the ban, no financial institution would dare set up an account to "host" such an endeavor and no payment processor would dare exchange that company's virtual currency profit into fiat.

However, the exchanges will still exist and people can still trade virtual currencies et all, but will have to cash out somewhere else.  Given China's and Russia's love of capital controls in order to "protect" their respective fiat currencies, this is no trivial exercise.

What about FOREX?  Is the average Chinese citizen allowed to trade in FOREX?

 
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April 05, 2014, 10:42:28 AM
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China has not banned Bitcoin.  They have not banned a single exchange.

They simply decoupled their fiat market from the virtual currency market.

It's just really, really, really hard to buy bitcoins with Yaun and/or cash them out into mainland yaun.

By the same token,  is it also not very hard to buy USD?

 
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April 05, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
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u wont win with market rules
market is chaos theory, people behaviour can't be predicted

just wait for price to go up, thats it
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April 05, 2014, 09:32:47 PM
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Iceland? they banned bitcoin and allow auroracoin?

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According to the Central Bank of Iceland, domestic entities are not allowed to buy bitcoins from foreign entities, as such transactions are considered a capital movement out of the country. Such transactions are illegal due to the capital controls imposed in the country after the collapse of the banking system in 2008

Yieehah! So will there be a difference between domestic and foreign bitcoins? ohno! A firewall on the Bitcoin ports? Search travelers brain for brainwallets to prevent bitcoins from entering the country? Auroracoins can be traded outside of Iceland, too, that is the problem.

What a joke, they have already lost, it is like the war on drugs but 1000 times harder because there is no physical items that can be seized.  Cheesy

THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THIS FUCKED UP SITUATION WITHOUT FIAT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

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April 05, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
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Iceland? they banned bitcoin and allow auroracoin?

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According to the Central Bank of Iceland, domestic entities are not allowed to buy bitcoins from foreign entities, as such transactions are considered a capital movement out of the country. Such transactions are illegal due to the capital controls imposed in the country after the collapse of the banking system in 2008

Yieehah! So will there be a difference between domestic and foreign bitcoins? ohno! A firewall on the Bitcoin ports? Search travelers brain for brainwallets to prevent bitcoins from entering the country? Auroracoins can be traded outside of Iceland, too, that is the problem.

What a joke, they have already lost, it is like the war on drugs but 1000 times harder because there is no physical items that can be seized.  Cheesy

THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THIS FUCKED UP SITUATION WITHOUT FIAT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Respectfully, I don't think you understand what happened to Iceland's banking system.   The crisis, which came to a head in 2008, happened because of deregulation of the banking system, and the people in charge of that system began buying toxic garbage bonds that were rated as AAA and created by the USA financial system.  They also got caught up in some currency trading problems with Europe during the global financial crisis (rather than investing in their own citizens).   The end result is that Iceland's banks almost collapsed, since the "collateral" no longer existed.   Citizens of Iceland were given a democratic choice, to either accept a Cyprus-style haircut, which would result in much of the money held in bank accounts to simply evaporate, or to nationalize the banks and institute capital controls to keep their currency from collapsing.

Capital controls are enforced by limiting the amount of money a citizen from Iceland can send overseas, such as transferring funds to a bitcoin exchange.  They really don't care about the bitcoins you possess.

I'm not sure what alternative to fiat you propose that they should have used, bitcoin wasn't released then, and even so, bitcoin's current market cap is less than $6 billion, less than 50% of Iceland's current GDP of $13.5 billion.
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April 05, 2014, 10:42:30 PM
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China is turning into a win/win:

Either the story fades away as it's power to move the market ends, or...
Things improve in China and prices rise quickly.

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April 05, 2014, 10:48:58 PM
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BTC will probably not go below $400.
Indeed. I was thinking we were going to see 300-350 before this crash was over, but now I'm not so sure... sucks because I was holding out for 350 to buy more, and I think I've missed my opportunity.



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April 06, 2014, 04:20:44 AM
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As protest on April 14th the day before china is supposed to ban crypto I'm airdropping a new crypto called mandarincoin to the citizens of china.

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