Do we really need the gender option in our profile page?

[Doan9269]

(a) there should be a "Gender" option with free text for selection and not a dropdown menu with predetermined options.
(b) there should not even be a field for it on the profile page. It is common for social forums to have such a field, but...

It is left for everyone to decide on what they wanted to be identified with on the forum, while there is this thing I am more confident in, we can't lie to our own self, if you choose to appear being on this forum as a male, it's your choice, same applies to the other gender, I will only suggest that we leave everything to the usual way it was, because most people don't even pay attention to this aspect, because what matters most is our valuable contribution to the forum growth, except for those that have extra Inter personal relationship with others in doing something whereby gender may be required, competency to me is far more better than gender.

[apogio]

But what do you think about my initial question?

Since bitcointalk is not a dating website, I do agree that we don't need gender option in our profile page.

And yeah, not a fan of your suggestion under "a" since there are two genders anyway, so no point having bank space as it will just give members oportunity to write nonsense.

Yeah that’s a different opinion we have here but it’s not supposed to be discussed in this thread, because my point is that it’s completely irrelevant with the forum in general. I do agree that perhaps removing it is the best option but I wanted to hear everyone thoughts.

[LoyceV]

my point is that it’s completely irrelevant with the forum in general.

One way or another, gender is still more relevant than ICQ. The forum profile is just slightly outdated.

[apogio]

One way or another, gender is still more relevant than ICQ. The forum profile is just slightly outdated.

Yeah this is also outdated. Someone had proposed the idea of using an empty input field where users could write any social media profile they wish, without restricting them to MSN, ICQ etc. I believe there is no reason to have social media fields at all, because you can simply DM someone and ask them for their social media profile.

[Excimer]

Apogio, I realized that you are a woman. Don't worry about your safety. I won't touch you because I didn't notice you in any suspicious.

[apogio]

Apogio, I realized that you are a woman. Don't worry about your safety. I won't touch you because I didn't notice you in any suspicious.

Yeap you got it right! But saying “I won’t touch you” because I am woman is disgusting. So I will follow LoyceV and I will put you on my ignore list from now. Don’t bother answering I won’t see it.

[Obim34]

Let's start with the fact that there are only two options, which in itself is controversial and has supporters on both sides.
I argue that one of the following should apply:
(a) there should be a "Gender" option with free text for selection and not a dropdown menu with predetermined options.

If there are users who fill those gender space, that means it is useful to them, if not to the majority of users but to the few numbers of people using it, we don't need a modification on that part.

The best way will be keeping it optional, let every user decide to use it or not.

[Excimer]

But saying “I won’t touch you” because I am woman is disgusting.

I won't touch you because I didn't notice you in any suspicious.

Women. What can I say? Always talking nonsense and are not friends with reality.    

You'll have a hard time here. Only facts have power here. I'm afraid you won't fit in on the forum with such silly statements which do not coincide with reality.

LoyceV

LoyceV listens only facts, not your emotions

Even someone like me is believed here more because I always use facts in my accusations. How many scammers have already tried to fabricate cases against me and nothing has worked for them


P.S:
By the way, the majority of people on the forum are men. And men are statistically smarter than women. Even the stupidest man on this forum will be much more objective than the smartest woman here. That's why in p2p deals I prefer to deal only with men, and none of them have cheated me. But there were a lot of women who cheated at every opportunity and did not fulfill the terms of the deal. Even women themselves admit that it is much safer to deal with men than with women. That's why many women on this forum pretend to be men so that they are believed more.

That's all I wanted to say

[Zoomic]

For the sake of fair and accommodating conversation, the gender option on the profile is necessary.
Many people find it offensive to be addressed as male when they are female.
From my end, I care to know a user's true gander in order to have a smooth conversation.
The tone I use to discuss with a woman is quite different from the tune I use for male.

Both gender have different emotions and if you don't understand, you will run into problems of misunderstanding. But when you understand the gender of the person you are discussing with, you will keep the conversation lovely and peaceful for long.

[mindrust]

Man and woman.

God made us that way. Let’s not question his ways shall we?

If he wanted, he could have created other genders too but he didn’t. That’s because god has infinite knowledge. He knows what’s best for us.

You may call yourself a shemale, a bisexual, a… uhm… gay? Whatever. These are not genders for a fact. These are (except for shemale maybe but i am not sure since a shemale is still a male imo) sexual identities.

Gender is simple.

1 - dick
0 - pussy

Amen.

[Ambatman]

I had to even check my profile to confirm if I placed a gender
And realised I didn't.
The forum doesn't force one to pick a gender or is it considered something compulsory to do
I don't really see the importance of it been there or not.
It can be easily ignored.


Besides its a default setting of SMF and like the fields still shows no changes has been made.

[apogio]

Man and woman.

- snip -

Gender is simple.

1 - dick
0 - pussy

Amen.

And why is this information needed in the forum profile?

Besides its a default setting of SMF and like the fields still shows no changes has been made.

I wasn't aware of this. Very important info, because it explains why it was chosen in the first place.

[mindrust]

Man and woman.

- snip -

Gender is simple.

1 - dick
0 - pussy

Amen.

And why is this information needed in the forum profile?

It is not needed. It is optional.

If you go to my forum account profile you’ll see that I haven’t specified any gender therefore it is blank.

The forum account profiles also have spots for ICQ, AIM, MSN etc and almost nobody uses these social media/messaging platforms nowadays.

Nobody forces you to specify your gender.

If there was no optional gender info on profiles, people would use some other spot to specify their gender if they wanted. (Like icq maybe)

Some females say they are males to avoid unwanted attention maybe and some others do the opposite. There are probably some males roleplaying as females as well.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Bit mistake! That user has been on my Ignore list for a long time.

That's funny, because I clicked on the link in the OP and saw the same thing--Excimer made my ignore list and probably a very long time ago since I haven't added any new members in a while.

In any case, I didn't read through that entire thread, but I'm not sure it's all about gender.  To apogio's point in this thread, I think there are a lot of aspects of the forum that need upgrading, and the profile page (including where you put your gender in) is one of them.  And no, I absolutely don't think there should be a spot to enter that info in.  How are you going to know who's telling the truth anyway?  People who want any sort of privacy are either going to leave it blank or just lie about it, so IMO it's just useless.

But once again this is a decision for Theymos to make.  We can argue back and forth here until the next halving or the one after that, but unless the Big Boss decides to change things, there's not a damn thing we can do ourselves.

[apogio]

In any case, I didn't read through that entire thread, but I'm not sure it's all about gender.  To apogio's point in this thread, I think there are a lot of aspects of the forum that need upgrading, and the profile page (including where you put your gender in) is one of them.  And no, I absolutely don't think there should be a spot to enter that info in.  How are you going to know who's telling the truth anyway?  People who want any sort of privacy are either going to leave it blank or just lie about it, so IMO it's just useless.

But once again this is a decision for Theymos to make.  We can argue back and forth here until the next halving or the one after that, but unless the Big Boss decides to change things, there's not a damn thing we can do ourselves.

Yes exactly! In fact I don’t want to discuss opinions on genders at all! What I am addressing is that I believe it’s totally irrelevant and redundant with the overall forum's purpose. The gender of the person behind the keyboard won’t make any difference in the way we communicate in this forum.

The fact that this dropdown (this selection) is useless makes it, in my opinion, a good candidate for removal. This is 100% the purpose of the thread! I don’t wanna discuss genders in the Meta section.


Many people said that ICQ and MSN are also outdated and obviously they are.

[lovesmayfamilis]

There is one sad remark that men, who they prefer to be, sometimes behave in a way that is far from typical for men, after which all their evidence by mail or video simply ceases to be such. The presence of gender organs does not always indicate a true character, so the best thing to do is simply leave it to the discretion of the readers, those who see their interlocutor and how they see them. I see many "men" in reality, in whom I have great doubts that they are Men.

[Excimer]

lovesmayfamilis is one of the smartest women on the forum. She is able to build cause-and-effect relationships and using only facts

The other women on the forum are just some simpleton chatterboxes using emotions as arguments like OP. Proof here

[Upgrade00]

Yes exactly! In fact I don’t want to discuss opinions on genders at all! What I am addressing is that I believe it’s totally irrelevant and redundant with the overall forum's purpose. The gender of the person behind the keyboard won’t make any difference in the way we communicate in this forum.

The location a person lives in is redundant to how they communicate with others, same with their DOB, but they are still available options for those who want to use them. The fact that there are people who personally want to fill out the gender option makes it relevant, anyone who doesn't find it relevant can simply ignore it and it would not have an effect.

Removing it, along with any of the others means, takes it away from those who would have normally filled it in.

It works fine the way it is, imo, as an option.

[Excimer]

Gender cheating is a real violation, which is used as evidence of the facts of buying and selling bitcointalk accounts.
There are many exposed accounts on this forum that initially had "posts on behalf of a man" and then posts on behalf of a woman".
If OP thinks that no one will expose such accounts, then she is wrong. I will personally make sure that such cheaters are punished on the forum.

[Majestic-milf]

It's his right. His gender identity is his own business. He has the right to self-determination and if it's convenient for him, no one has the right to forbid him. But if he leave his "twitter account", in his posts, where he on a photo with a beard and drinks beer - then let him not complain later. This is considered gender cheating on any respectable forum, and sometimes even trolling

You know this yet you went on to cause a ruckus about their gender.  Personally I don't see it as much of big deal trying to reveal one's gender or force them to accept what they know since this place is anonymous and its a personal choice of the individual if they want to say it out or not.