[SOLVED] NestEx (nestex.one) - ostriches

[VerdOrrBT]

NestEx (nestex.one) - scammers

I used them to exchange side shitcoins from mining. When a more or less significant amount accumulated, I made a request for withdrawal, but instead of withdrawal, a block followed. When asked about the reasons for the block, the support team responded with a far-fetched pretext "your email domain registrar had registered (another) domain from which they were engaged in phishing." The support team did not respond to the subsequent half a dozen letters with options for solving the problem (change the registrar, change the email). There is only one conclusion to be drawn from this - these are scammers.

P.S. They blocked me in their Discord when I began to publicly discuss this issue

P.P.S. More than a month has passed since the blocking.

[VerdOrrBT]

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[sunsilk]

Post this on the Scam Accusations board. But add more details and proof to this scam that has happened to you.

There is a format that you need to follow there for you to formally post it and make people aware of what they've done to you and, so that everyone can avoid them as well.

This is the kind of format which you can modify this thread and move it there;

Scam Report Format

Code:

[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.

[VerdOrrBT]

At this point I still hope that this is just an administrative error that someone is too lazy to correct. If no action is taken to resolve this problem, I will do exactly as you say.

Post this on the Scam Accusations board. But add more details and proof to this scam that has happened to you.

There is a format that you need to follow there for you to formally post it and make people aware of what they've done to you and, so that everyone can avoid them as well.

This is the kind of format which you can modify this thread and move it there;

Scam Report Format

Code:

[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.

[God Of Thunder]

At this point I still hope that this is just an administrative error that someone is too lazy to correct. If no action is taken to resolve this problem, I will do exactly as you say.

I don't even know if I ever heard the name of this exchange. If a month has passed, I think this no longer looks good. If they keep ignoring your email, this is no longer an administrative error, and I don't know if you still expect them to unblock your account. Are they in this forum already? Do they have a representative here? If not, you are unlikely to get any response from them.

At this point, you should at least create a scam accusation and present some proof to back your claim so the community can know, or the customers from the future can get benefit from your scam accusation thread.

[VerdOrrBT]

Are they in this forum already?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521707.0

Do they have a representative here?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3673510

At this point, you should at least create a scam accusation and present some proof to back your claim so the community can know, or the customers from the future can get benefit from your scam accusation thread.

I'll give them another day to respond.
If they don't take any action, I'll do exactly as you say.

[JeromeTash]

I'll give them another day to respond.
If they don't take any action, I'll do exactly as you say.

If they took more than a month without responding to your subsequent emails and even went ahead to block you in their discord, what makes you think they will respond to you in the next 24 hours?

You created this thread yesterday, their representative was active this morning, yet no statement was issued on how they can help you.

[Darker45]

This is a classic garbage in, garbage out story. You got shitcoins, you're brought to a shitty exchange, because it's primarily them that list shitcoins. As a result, you got a shitty service. Your coins are probably issued by a scam project. That led you to a scam exchange. And now you're scammed.

Just the same, since it's a significant amount, you might want to drop their representative here a PM. You might get a better response, or at least a response. If the account has the time to bump a thread about an issue with another shady exchange, it could also give a little time to take a look at an issue involving its own.

[rat03gopoh]

If no action is taken to resolve this problem, I will do exactly as you say.

Didn't you just add fuel to the fire when you called them "scammer"? Besides, their pattern is undoubtedly similar to the fake exchanges of the past: avoiding customers by blocking users everywhere instead of explaining these unusual policies in more detail. Look, they don't even have a terms of use or anything related to the legality of their company pages.

[Rikafip]

Well, since the tagline on their website is "We trade crypto; but the asset is YOU", no surprise that you got scammed lol.

Anyway, as others said, if you provide more proof for your claims, bitcointalk community might put some pressure on them to resolve your case (if they even care about their reputation here).

[nestex_one]

NestEx (nestex.one) - scammers

I used them to exchange side shitcoins from mining. When a more or less significant amount accumulated, I made a request for withdrawal, but instead of withdrawal, a block followed. When asked about the reasons for the block, the support team responded with a far-fetched pretext "your email domain registrar had registered (another) domain from which they were engaged in phishing." The support team did not respond to the subsequent half a dozen letters with options for solving the problem (change the registrar, change the email). There is only one conclusion to be drawn from this - these are scammers.

P.S. They blocked me in their Discord when I began to publicly discuss this issue

P.P.S. More than a month has passed since the blocking.

We blocked you on discord because the FIRST and ONLY sentence you wrote was "Give me my money back and then you can continue to pretend to be a virgin" you are rude, arrogant and as I told you, we are not here to support angry nasty people who are OBVIOUSLY part of a phishing entity. Till date, you did not deny, refute those charges or prove them wrong in any manner.

If no action is taken to resolve this problem, I will do exactly as you say.

So you have multiple accounts with us, and only ONE of them, which used the known phishing provider Wuxi Yilian LLC domain mypush.org and was red flagged by our cybersecurity team, was blocked.

Your other account which uses a "list.ru" email ID was not blocked, since it was not red flagged.

Furthermore don't forget to mention that we processed $1000+ worth of funds for you - of coins that other exchanges didn't have at the time - which is like 90%+ of the funds in the account.

If they took more than a month without responding to your subsequent emails and even went ahead to block you in their discord, what makes you think they will respond to you in the next 24 hours?

You created this thread yesterday, their representative was active this morning, yet no statement was issued on how they can help you.

We asked the user to present their case. They sent coercive and threatening emails instead of making their case to explain why they are not associated with the known phishing entity. This can be verified on our discord as well, we gave them ample time - a whole MONTH infact - to revert to the accusation.

If the account has the time to bump a thread about an issue with another shady exchange, it could also give a little time to take a look at an issue involving its own.

avoiding customers by blocking users everywhere instead of explaining these unusual policies in more detail.

Anyway, as others said, if you provide more proof for your claims, bitcointalk community might put some pressure on them to resolve your case (if they even care about their reputation here).

So guys, I'm not saying we're "perfect". We are a startup, and we're trying to do our best by our users. Some others on bitcointalk have had a bad trading experience with us, and we took their feedback seriously and made changes to our processes and algorithms.

We try to be available and communicative as much as possible. Maybe not so much on bitcointalk as on discord, but feel free to have a look at our discord and you will see how we operate.

Our workflow is simple - We list coins that pay for the listing, and some coins where we feel miners will generate that value for us. Yes it's for profit.

Not trying to sugar coat things here. We are also human and may make mistakes, we will try to correct them when proven wrong (but we will also accept adverse inputs and try to correct things without proof, since we also want to prevent potential issues).


Further to this point, the user has sent me a PM. Guess what - no denial of the accusation, and not even an attempt to provide input to resolve the issue. Just a straight "do as I say, OR ELSE"

[VerdOrrBT]

We blocked you on discord because the FIRST and ONLY sentence you wrote was "Give me my money back and then you can continue to pretend to be a virgin" you are rude, arrogant and as I told you, we are not here to support angry nasty people who are OBVIOUSLY part of a phishing entity. Till date, you did not deny, refute those charges or prove them wrong in any manner.

1. Don't try to twist the situation - this phrase was written out of desperation after 4 weeks of silence in response to letters to support and private messages in Discord. You can see this by looking at the dates.

2. The evidence provided by my friend, the pool developer, you also deleted as inconvenient

...used the known phishing provider Wuxi Yilian LLC domain mypush.org

These data are indicated if the owner hiding mode is enabled. To verify this, it is enough to look at the domain of the registrar itself -

https://cnobin.com/
https://www.whois.com/whois/cnobin.com
https://www.whois.com/whois/mypush.org

You were informed about this, but you ignored it and deleted the related messages.

We asked the user to present their case. They sent coercive and threatening emails instead of making their case to explain why they are not associated with the known phishing entity. This can be verified on our discord as well, we gave them ample time - a whole MONTH infact - to revert to the accusation.

This is a complete lie and it is evident from the dates on your screenshots - in your arrogance you only condescended to talk about it when the situation was made public.

[VerdOrrBT]

Well, since the tagline on their website is "We trade crypto; but the asset is YOU", no surprise that you got scammed lol.

Anyway, as others said, if you provide more proof for your claims, bitcointalk community might put some pressure on them to resolve your case (if they even care about their reputation here).

Caring about their reputation, I tried to resolve the issue with private messages. But for some reason, some people consider kindness a weakness.

[nestex_one]

1. Don't try to twist the situation - this phrase was written out of desperation after 4 weeks of silence in response to letters to support and private messages in Discord. You can see this by looking at the dates.

You sent only 2 emails, both of which are included in the screenshot. The dates on the email are clear, there was nothing to refute the allegation.
And your first, and ONLY message on discord was what I mentioned.

2. The evidence provided by my friend, the pool developer, you also deleted as inconvenient

By Whoxwho? They provided evidence from blackhatworld that proved Wuxi Yilian LLC is indeed exclusively a phishing domain registrar, and that 100% or more domains they register are phishing domains, high risk and should not be trusted.

His "Evidence" is completely NOT in your favour!! And it's NOT deleted either - here's a screenshot from 2 minutes ago - his message is still there.


The corresponding link for that is

Code:

blackhatworld.com/seo/is-there-an-offshore-domain-registar-outside-the-us-that-ignores-dmca.1642212/

...used the known phishing provider Wuxi Yilian LLC domain mypush.org

These data are indicated if the owner hiding mode is enabled. To verify this, it is enough to look at the domain of the registrar itself -

https://cnobin.com/
https://www.whois.com/whois/cnobin.com
https://www.whois.com/whois/mypush.org

You were informed about this, but you ignored it and deleted the related messages.

Wrong again, I made full note of this and reported it to Liz, the additional evidence that Whoxwho provided PROVED that our course of action was correct.

We asked the user to present their case. They sent coercive and threatening emails instead of making their case to explain why they are not associated with the known phishing entity. This can be verified on our discord as well, we gave them ample time - a whole MONTH infact - to revert to the accusation.

This is a complete lie and it is evident from the dates on your screenshots - in your arrogance you only condescended to talk about it when the situation was made public.

Caring about their reputation, I tried to resolve the issue with private messages. But for some reason, some people consider kindness a weakness.

KINDNESS!? WHAT KINDNESS??? 🤣

FIRST Your August email = "Give me back MY funds and you can continue to be paranoid as much as you want"
SECOND Your September email = "If you don't start solving this problem I will .... " etc etc.
THIRD Your message on discord = "Give me back my money and you can continue to be a virgin"
FOURTH Your PM this morning = "With your silence and lack of action to fix the problem, you are forcing me to more actively publish this dirty story. This will have an extremely negative impact on the reputation of your service, but you leave me no choice. I don't care what paranoid principles are embedded in your security system - just return MY coins to me and do whatever you want from now on"

The way I see it we did the RIGHT thing protecting our ecosystem from fraudsters like you who use threats and coercion as their tools of communication.

[VerdOrrBT]

You sent only 2 emails, both of which are included in the screenshot. The dates on the email are clear, there was nothing to refute the allegation.

You lie almost every step of the way...



P.S. And yes, “Give me back MY money and keep pretending to be a virgin.” (c) 

[nestex_one]

You sent only 2 emails, both of which are included in the screenshot. The dates on the email are clear, there was nothing to refute the allegation.

You lie almost every step of the way...

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P.S. And yes, “Give me back MY money and keep pretending to be a virgin.” (c) 

I don't see a 3rd email in my inbox. I just checked again. But seeing the message contents even now, it doesn't help your case mate. You're offering to change your identity just because your current one is tainted doesn't absolve you of the taint - it means you're aiming for concealment.

A user offering to change their email after being flagged as a "bad actor" does not prove their innocence, but it's likely to be a tactic by a bad actor to evade detection or a sign that they are trying to cover their tracks.

[VerdOrrBT]

You sent only 2 emails, both of which are included in the screenshot. The dates on the email are clear, there was nothing to refute the allegation.

You lie almost every step of the way...

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P.S. And yes, “Give me back MY money and keep pretending to be a virgin.” (c)  

I don't see a 3rd email in my inbox. I just checked again. But seeing the message contents even now, it doesn't help your case mate. You're offering to change your identity just because your current one is tainted doesn't absolve you of the taint - it means you're aiming for concealment.

A user offering to change their email after being flagged as a "bad actor" does not prove their innocence, but it's likely to be a tactic by a bad actor to evade detection or a sign that they are trying to cover their tracks.

Unanswered letters - 5 (after such a demonstration of arithmetic skills, it's no surprise that orders in your system take 5-10 minutes to match).
+ No replies to PMs on Discord

But most importantly, return the coins that were transferred to you and you can continue living in your gamedev world of rainbow unicorns.

[nestex_one]

Unanswered letters - 5 (after such a demonstration of arithmetic skills, it's no surprise that orders in your system take 5-10 minutes to match).
+ No replies to PMs on Discord

But most importantly, return the coins that were transferred to you and you can continue living in your gamedev world of rainbow unicorns.

Re-Read the T&C and you know what happens to scammers, and our zero-tolerance policy, which you accepted while signing up so there is no further discussion here.

And as informed to you and Whoxwho multiple times previously, any appeals or corrective action on this topic will be addressed by Liz directly, so write to her on support@nestex.one with the relevant evidence.

It's more than obvious that you intend to malign us for your scandalous activities as you've never, not even ONCE, offered to provide evidence in your support. And you CAN'T because there ISN'T ANY.

[VerdOrrBT]

It's more than obvious that you intend to malign us for your scandalous activities as you've never, not even ONCE, offered to provide evidence in your support. And you CAN'T because there ISN'T ANY.

Do you have problems not only with arithmetic, but also with logic? You have been repeatedly provided with evidence that this is a legal entity of the registrar. The fact that it offers favorable terms and conditions, which are also used by fraudsters, does not make all of its clients fraudsters.

Russia, the days of Prohibition...
The police find a moonshine still at a rural resident's house.
“We are arresting you for moonshining.”
“I didn't do anything!”
“But you have the equipment!”
“Then arrest me for rape too.”
“You didn't rape anyone.”
“But I have the equipment!”

[nestex_one]

It's more than obvious that you intend to malign us for your scandalous activities as you've never, not even ONCE, offered to provide evidence in your support. And you CAN'T because there ISN'T ANY.

Do you have problems not only with arithmetic, but also with logic? You have been repeatedly provided with evidence that this is a legal entity of the registrar. The fact that it offers favorable terms and conditions, which are also used by fraudsters, does not make all of its clients fraudsters.

Russia, the days of Prohibition...
The police find a moonshine still at a rural resident's house.
“We are arresting you for moonshining.”
“I didn't do anything!”
“But you have the equipment!”
“Then arrest me for rape too.”
“You didn't rape anyone.”
“But I have the equipment!”

You write all kinds of things, but you've not written "How do I prove I'm not part of the phishing network?".

No service provider who is human will want to assist you, or support you, or refund you, or have anything to do with you, with the amount of arbitrary abuse you've thrown our way. Despite all of that you see all my responses to you have been polite and to the point.

Enough said. Write to Liz, I will not be involved further.