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September 11, 2025, 11:47:04 AM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
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September 11, 2025, 11:50:22 AM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.

I think pretty much all the respectable casinos are provably fair.

That basically means that they are not manipulating the odds.

It doesn't mean that the odds are good for the gambler though, the odds are still better for the casino.
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September 11, 2025, 11:51:37 AM
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As non technical knowledge user, I don’t often verify my bet because I don’t have any idea how to verify it even by using the tool to verify it. I mean I don’t know how the system works.

I only rely to other user that keep using the games. The more players that will use means more eyes to check the provably fair system being use by the casino.

There’s always someone that will notice if the game is scam if casino attempts to tamper it. And most importantly I play only on reputable casino to avoid any issue on games PF system.
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September 11, 2025, 11:57:59 AM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.

I have never checked my bets, but it is enough for me that this system exists and technically literate users will 100% find a catch if suddenly the casino starts playing unfairly. In fact, I focus only on the casino's reputation, everything else is of little importance. I think any player would avoid casinos with bad reviews regardless of whether they have provably fair or not. But anyway now it seems to be the standard for everyone.

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September 11, 2025, 12:08:53 PM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
That's a very good question because when the game has a Return To Player, for example 95% RTP, you know that you'll get back 95% of your bets and the rest 5% goes to the casino, so does it really matter whether results are fair or not? I might sound like one in a million but for me it's not super important. In general, I would love to bet on a provably fair casino because I don't want to get cheated but it's not the highest priority for me. I'm here to enjoy the process with the few bucks that I have.
By the way, RTP and House Edge guarantees casinos a profit, so, why should they be lying?

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September 11, 2025, 12:10:54 PM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.

Recently I was in a small town on the border of a state where casinos are allowed, and a state borders on it where casinos are prohibited. And I saw many casinos near the station, which were in the courtyards of buildings. And I am sure that all the slot machines there are not honest. I know the mentality of the local people, and believe me, if they have the opportunity to make the game as dishonest as possible for gamblers, they will do it.
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September 11, 2025, 12:12:37 PM
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Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it? 
Most people does not even know what provably fair games are. Also some people know about it but almost all of them will not verify anything. They even do not know how to verify it. But I know that some people have the time to verify it but they are not many. Also it is worth to include that with the provably fairness, almost all gamblers are losing. No need to correct me about expected value or return to player, I know what they are also.

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September 11, 2025, 12:17:39 PM
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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.

On irrelevant answer, yes, the expression "probably fair" can be a good red flag about the knowledge of the poster or the quality of the casino, depending where you read it.

Answering your main question, I don't have much knowledge nor time to verify myself the fairness of the casinos I use, but I rely on the knowledge of a great number of users more skilled than me, like when I choose open source software instead of their privative alternative. So yes, when I look for a casino I focus on 1) the user base and 2) the "provably fair" claim.

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September 11, 2025, 12:20:58 PM
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During involved on online gambling casinos i have never checked or verify my bets that because i trust the casinos where i was play so, that's why checking the reputation of the casino is more important for me rather than checking my bets whether it provably fair or not because when i play at trustable casinos automatically all of my bets potentially will be provably fair because i am sure too trusted casino will never manipulate the system to make their costumers lost because those casinos know if they do that it will ruin their reputation which eventually they will lost the trust from the players
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September 11, 2025, 12:24:07 PM
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how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
Honestly, I dont really pay attention to provably fair or bother verifying my bets. For me, gambling is more about the fun, the rush, and the entertainment rather than digging into the technical side of things. I know some people value transparency and want to check every outcome, but personally, I don’t see the need if Im already choosing to gamble, I’ve accepted the risk that comes with it. As long as the platform feels trustworthy and I enjoy the experience, plus Im more inclined on physical casino than online one. Its quite fun and more comfortable gambling with.

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September 11, 2025, 12:31:32 PM
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Of course, that's great and important, but how can they verify it so that they can be declared truly fair in their games? Surely we must understand what indicators are reviewed by BTCgosu as evidence that a game in a casino can be said to be fair?

I am quite confident in my casino so far; there have been no irregularities in the games I have played while gambling at the casino, but I am unaware of other games available at the casino where I play, as that is not my concern.
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September 11, 2025, 12:39:45 PM
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As non technical knowledge user, I don’t often verify my bet because I don’t have any idea how to verify it even by using the tool to verify it. I mean I don’t know how the system works.
I can bet it that many of us have not been aware of this that probably that players can actually check on access the status is their bets if they are fair or not.
As regards to my own practice, I don't either do this fairness of bets verification rather I relies on the casinos reputation in the general overview with other users reviews commentaries in the casino sites.
Basically most os us stand to believe that once a casino is said to be reputable then every of it services with their customers will be fair.


I only rely to other user that keep using the games. The more players that will use means more eyes to check the provably fair system being use by the casino.

There’s always someone that will notice if the game is scam if casino attempts to tamper it. And most importantly I play only on reputable casino to avoid any issue on games PF system.
Nomatter what there is necessity to do our own research even while there are those who may tend to guide and give us updates about the platforms because the risk will always be at individuals experience which means you can be mislead or you solely rely on someone to trust the legitimacy of a casino.

Don't either be relented to see one victimized because staying concious that a trusted platform as long as it is regulated can compromise. You don't also be to trust developers with what you can not afford to loose because anything is possible to happen.

 
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September 11, 2025, 12:39:55 PM
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Provably fairness was a must in this industry until 2016-2018 I think. Reputable crypto dice platforms were all provably fair and they stated it on the front of their web pages, because gamblers cared about it. However, as the industry went mainstream, provably fair feature stopped being mentioned and right now I don't even know if it's still implemented.

The public was more demanding and concerned before. In fact, everything which becomes massified, doesn't maintain the same quality and efficiency of before. Internet is another good example of that. And the same goes with food brands too, so naturally it wouldn't be different with gambling industry.

Now provably fair isn't important anymore, because the social influencer's word is enough.

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Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  
There is no gambler who would like to play in a casino where they know that they are being cheated. Gamblers on the platform may not take too seriously using the probably Fairness Checker tool, but the moment they start seeing complaints from other gamblers online who are being suspicious of the casino of foul play, many more people will pay attention to verifying bets.

It is important to every gambler IMO.

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As non technical knowledge user, I don’t often verify my bet because I don’t have any idea how to verify it even by using the tool to verify it. I mean I don’t know how the system works.

It’s easy to verify if everything is fair using tools and you can check everything on the blockchain if the codes are match based on the bet description.

I don’t play much probably fair games because most of the time it’s just a pure luck games and not enjoyable at all. Only blackjack is what I like on provably fair games but the rest is ignored.

Live games is much better and easy to verify since you are playing virtually against real dealer.

 
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Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
Well I guess someone can try this out for any new casino, they wish to play. Though I don't see it much necessary because we play on third party platforms, they can choose to do alot behind the screens just to make sure you don't win much. And since we signed up to enjoy our selfs some things at just better left unsaid. That way we can just move on with the probability of what ever we get as result we get from the games we choose to play.

For me, so I don't go through the stress of checking the probably fairness I just rather play on casinos I know. Those with alot of reputation. I usually avoid playing on new casinos due to many reasons best know to me..

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I have heard so much about it but I have not been able to make anything out of it. I have been playing different slots in different and not only those that claim to be provably fair gives me more wins than others, this makes me wonderful what it actually means and why I have to make in a consideration in my gambling. In summary, I do not notice any difference in that.

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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
As for me, casino games are not about profit, so i play just to lose some money and relax. For me it is not something important - to know if my rolls are fair. The only thing that is matter for me in such games - is to win something time to time.

The only thing i don`t like is to play card games in casino with bots, i always feel doubts if casino knows my hand or next cards we would see.

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That is not important to me. I don't search for that and choose my games by feeling. Mostly I play slot games which I just check from the casino's list of games.

I don't verify my bets because that can waste my time just checking my bets. I can not enjoy my gambling time and just busy with that. Even if I check and get provably fair, I still need luck to win. So that will not be important for me.

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I don't have much content to give here, and neither do I know in-depth about provably fairness, but little do I understand is that — provably fairness means, your rolls aren't manipulated and results of your rolls are fair (cmiiw).

Question being, if casino you play on has provably fairness checker or it gives you data that you can use on online tools to verify your bets (for ex, https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/) ; now how many times you actually verify your bets? And is provably fairness really important to you or can you do without it?  

On irrelevant note: For good while I read it as, 'probably fair' instead of 'provably fair'.
As for me, casino games are not about profit, so i play just to lose some money and relax. For me it is not something important - to know if my rolls are fair. The only thing that is matter for me in such games - is to win something time to time.

The only thing i don`t like is to play card games in casino with bots, i always feel doubts if casino knows my hand or next cards we would see.

It’s important if you are playing on casino that still new and no solid reputation since provably fair games can be used to exploit users that doesn’t know how to verify fairness of the game.

But if you are playing on reputable casino I think this is not a big deal anymore to check frequently since casino will not put their reputation on the line considering that they will surely win in the end without cheating due to house edge.

In general, it’s still advisable to regularly check whether the game is provably fair since casino usually provide checker too in the casino.

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