Trading and long-term investing

[KingsDen]

A day Trader: Makes profits with 24hrs and at most in days when go long.
A short term investor Makes profits from weeks to months
Long-term investor Takes profit from months to years.

Someone who bought a coin today and in two weeks time, the coin pumps and he decides to take profits, the person is not a trader as you described above. There are not trick rules, anyone can buy low and sell high without being a day trader.

[Antotena]

Simply put, it depends on the approach... trading and investing are two different things, if someone focuses more on short-term gains, then that's trading, but when someone looks at the fundamental value of an asset and plans to invest for a longer period, then that's investing.
Since many people don't understand the difference between trading and investing, and they sometimes confuse the two, what they say ends up being confusing to others.

I think the response we are given here is subjective to our individual experiences and how we view the crypto market. From what I know, I do follow people that invest in crypto, they are full time investors and at the same time they are full time traders, some of them have made so much money in trading than they have done on some of their crypto investment, they play around with leverages that I what investment gives them as x1, they make more X because of the leverages.

There are some traders that doesn't even deal with leverage, they stay at the market 24/7 to make trade with the latest coins that are liquid, gives them good candle for trend that to can enter and exit when you like. They make this most of the time in trading and it's possible that when they are trading and making money everyday, the investment made of coins might be lagging behind. For example, trading BNB is better than holding ethereum because BNB has been pumping while ethereum is just relaxing.

[Marvelockg]

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

But yet, people like to look out for short term profit which is the reason why they prefer trading over investing in bitcoin. It only takes an individual that's matured enough to consider that bitcoin is a long term asset , those that sees the long term potential of bitcoin and that at the same time have the patience to wait and not rush to take profit even when they are in short profit that ends up gaining from investing in bitcoin.

If you're leaving in a country that has high poverty rate and you're Someone that's looking for fast means to to increase your money, considering the idea of investing will be deficult to understand because buying bitcoin and not selling it for a period of four years for instance requires an high level of discipline.

[gracreavix]

I see no reasons why someone who have seen the potentials in bitcoin will still be trading bitcoin instead of buying and hold for long term. Shitcoins are coins will should be trading and gambling with for short term profits, and when dealing with those shitcoins always stake money you can afford lose to prevent your mental health from getting affected.

You shouldn't be surprised to see people trading with bitcoin, as a matter of fact the economy have make most people to sell thier patient. As alot of people are now showing much concern in something that can profit them within a space of time, and since they are aware of the potential of bitcoin they think trading with bitcoin is just the same as holding it for long term investment. But they seems to be mistaken bitcoin for those shitcoin, so the earlier they know that bitcoin is not like those meme / shitcoin that you will just wake up one day only for you to discover that you're 7- 8x in profit. The same way you will Wake up one day to discover that you have lost everything,  so while making any decision is god to think twice not just doing it because you're inquisitive to make profit. The future is more important than the profit we are going to get for short term investment.

A lot of people now rush into trading Bitcoin just because they want to make quick profits but most of them don’t really understand what they’re doing. Bitcoin isn’t like those meme coins that rise overnight and crash the next day. It’s something meant to be held with patience, not chased for fast gains.

People has lose focus bcus they see others making money fast from those shit coins, but the truth is slow and steady wins with Bitcoin. It is  better to keep stacking little by little and think long term. The goal should be lasting wealth, not short term excitement that disappears tomorrow..

[Issa56]

Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

Trading isn’t so easy like that, lots of people post on social media, about how they make money from trading, but most of them are just fake, they don’t really make money, most of them are having all this signal groups, and they do that just to encourage people to join their group so that they will be able to collect money from them.

We all should know that trading is really risky, and it requires time and attention, you need to properly analyze the market before entering a trade, and that doesn’t mean you still going to make profit if you analyze the market, you might properly analyze the market, and at the end your analysis might be wrong, so whenever you are trading, you should be prepared.

If your target is for long term investment, then your won’t be disturbed if there is any slight changes in the market, since you are planning to hold for long term, it’s not really going to disturb you, and you Won’t be selling just because you are in little profit. If you are investing for long term, then the risk is less compare to if you are trading.

[Sanitough]

Trading applies when you buy and sell a significant coin. While long-term investing is accumulating bitcoin for the sake of hodling it for indefinite years. So they’re not actually the same, but some less knowledgeable newbies who enter the market used to treat as the same thing.

However, trading is highly risky compared to long-term investing alone. So if you prefer a less risky yet profitable option, stick to long-term investing, but if you are here for some immediate profits, then learn how to trade the smart and wiser way, although not all traders are guaranteed making profits in the end.

[Claudksg]

If I may say seeing from my own view or knowledge,trading and long term investing are simply different.because trading should be classified as a business the after doing you business trading.then you go for a long term investing with what you have made from your trading.long term investing is fixed and trading is continues.

[Just Say]

If people like to find profits in the short term, then they need to be knowledgeable about fundamental analysis such as chart patterns, volume, we also need to identify Fibonacci retracement and divergence patterns, which actually indicate currency price fluctuations, moreover many people use the short selling method, which is essentially trying to sell at a higher price and buy at a lower price. You are right that trading and investing are two completely different things, yet there may be a class difference between them because trade involves frequent purchases to make quick profits.

The truth is the main difference between these two systems is the time frame and the goal. Besides when it comes to investments, priority should be given to reliable currencies but in this case, I think that Bitcoin is the only reliable currency because because here it is necessary to know the basics of blockchain technology, perhaps if sufficient capital is spent through it, the price of Bitcoin will increase over time, creating the possibility of high returns on assets.

[GIF-JOBS]

Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

It must be admitted that the risk in trading is very high, because people rely on trading to earn a little cash but this can be completely wrong if the market goes to the dumping stage. However, investing is the most wise thing, but I want to explain by investing in Bitcoin, those who invest in Bitcoin and do it for a long time are the only ones who show wisdom. But I have seen many people lose money in trading, and eventually face a lot of debt. I also compare trading to gambling.

Although it is not right to compare trading with gambling, but it is often seen that a new trader treats trading like gambling, and in that case, gambling and trading are the same for them. Trading is indeed risky, especially for those who blindly jump into the market hoping for quick profits, who make emotional decisions, it is very harmful, but for those who have mastered trading completely within themselves, and have learned trading deeply, trading is not necessarily risky, and they can achieve success from it. But in terms of risk and probability, investing is definitely safer than trading and it will have a higher chance of success in the long run. Those who completely ignore the volatility and hold Bitcoin for years, are the ones who ultimately make real profits, and those who do not believe it now, will only continue to regret it in the future.

[qwertyup23]

Trading takes time and learning, while you are into trading i mean trying to learn it, you should consider investing for long term, this will reassure you that you spent your time very well, it took me 2 years to get some basic trading knowledge especially reading the chart.

I haven't got into trading but my brother notoriously compels me to trade. He does foreign exchanges and stocks so he has a bit of experience in this space where he is also dedicated in teaching me but in the cryptocurrency space.

While I do appreciate the advice that my brother gives, I am still skeptical whether I should consider trading or just focus on long-term HODLing for my coins. Regardless, however, my investments would continue with the condition that I should not touch my cryptocurrencies for at least 5-10 years from now.

Start investing and keep learning trading, it is a win win situation.

I do agree with your statement.

Unfortunately, I do think that I would still not consider trading due to the sheer amount of risks that are involved. I mean, investing already into cryptocurrencies is a risk by itself; I don't want to further increase the risks of losing my investments by trading.

[Crytohillss]

Trading takes time and learning, while you are into trading i mean trying to learn it, you should consider investing for long term, this will reassure you that you spent your time very well, it took me 2 years to get some basic trading knowledge especially reading the chart.

I haven't got into trading but my brother notoriously compels me to trade. He does foreign exchanges and stocks so he has a bit of experience in this space where he is also dedicated in teaching me but in the cryptocurrency space.

While I do appreciate the advice that my brother gives, I am still skeptical whether I should consider trading or just focus on long-term HODLing for my coins. Regardless, however, my investments would continue with the condition that I should not touch my cryptocurrencies for at least 5-10 years from now.

Start investing and keep learning trading, it is a win win situation.

I do agree with your statement.

Unfortunately, I do think that I would still not consider trading due to the sheer amount of risks that are involved. I mean, investing already into cryptocurrencies is a risk by itself; I don't want to further increase the risks of losing my investments by trading.

You are right , before starting a new investment or trading one should learn or understand the principle of  investment  before embarking on such plan, being so skeptical whether you consider trading or dependending on  long term is a decision one need to make,  investing in Bitcoin it safer than trading your investment.

[pawanjain]

In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

A good example to this would be the recent crash in the crypto market which wiped out billions from the marketcap.
Traders who were using leverage got liquidated but long terms holders got not worries since they will keep holding on to their coins until the market is recovered.
Even spot traders would be panicking at the moment since they would be down by a huge % but if they got strong hands they can continue holding until they are in profits.
Hence, stay away from leverage trading and stick to long term investments for maximum gains.

[Wiwo]

A good example to this would be the recent crash in the crypto market which wiped out billions from the marketcap.
Traders who were using leverage got liquidated but long terms holders got not worries since they will keep holding on to their coins until the market is recovered.

Long term holding may have lowers profits merging during a bull market but at the same time, long term holder's wont have the fear or experience of a liquidated position since their are not gambling on the price of Bitcoin using the x formula, but are buying real units of bitcoin and holding it for long period of time to maximise their gains.

Even spot traders would be panicking at the moment since they would be down by a huge % but if they got strong hands they can continue holding until they are in profits.
Hence, stay away from leverage trading and stick to long term investments for maximum gains.

Spot traders are most likely the long term holders,  even though their portfolio could go down due to market crash, they is no need to panick that much, since at that point they can only lose time for waiting for the market to recover before they will be in profits again.

So both spot traders and investors are same so long is long term goals that is the aim of the investment only gambler's who are gambling on the price of Bitcoin and other assets in the market goes for leverage or future trading.

[Adams0001]

But yet, people like to look out for short term profit which is the reason why they prefer trading over investing in bitcoin. It only takes an individual that's matured enough to consider that bitcoin is a long term asset , those that sees the long term potential of bitcoin and that at the same time have the patience to wait and not rush to take profit even when they are in short profit that ends up gaining from investing in bitcoin.

If you're leaving in a country that has high poverty rate and you're Someone that's looking for fast means to to increase your money, considering the idea of investing will be deficult to understand because buying bitcoin and not selling it for a period of four years for instance requires an high level of discipline.

Everyone do what will favour him most and I won't blame anyone that prefer to do short term investments and get profit, not all of us are patient enough to hold Bitcoin for the long term some prefer to do trading so that they will get fast money. Anything have is own risk and if they can probably handle the risk fine for them but the best thing is to invest for long term and that is only thing that will safe your funds from losing alot in the market. Some people can't stay for 24 hours without making money so does people can't get the patient to leave there coin for long term they will always look for another alternative that will make them get funds daily, and that is why they engage in trading so that they can get profit when the market favour them because anything that brings fast money is not easy to get, you most definitely face challenges and that is the loses but if you have understood it and have knowledge you won't leave trading again.

[BitBakerr1]

Trading takes time and learning, while you are into trading i mean trying to learn it, you should consider investing for long term, this will reassure you that you spent your time very well, it took me 2 years to get some basic trading knowledge especially reading the chart.

I haven't got into trading but my brother notoriously compels me to trade. He does foreign exchanges and stocks so he has a bit of experience in this space where he is also dedicated in teaching me but in the cryptocurrency space.

While I do appreciate the advice that my brother gives, I am still skeptical whether I should consider trading or just focus on long-term HODLing for my coins. Regardless, however, my investments would continue with the condition that I should not touch my cryptocurrencies for at least 5-10 years from now.

Start investing and keep learning trading, it is a win win situation.

I do agree with your statement.

Unfortunately, I do think that I would still not consider trading due to the sheer amount of risks that are involved. I mean, investing already into cryptocurrencies is a risk by itself; I don't want to further increase the risks of losing my investments by trading.

You are right , before starting a new investment or trading one should learn or understand the principle of  investment  before embarking on such plan, being so skeptical whether you consider trading or dependending on  long term is a decision one need to make,  investing in Bitcoin it safer than trading your investment.

Crytohillss you are correct, before one should embark on investment or trading one should really learn and understand the principles of trading and Investment, one should understand the risk involve and again one should also understand how to keep it going, those who wants to embark on trading should understand the risk in it and should know their limit, those who wants to embark on Long Time bitcoin investment should understand that they need to use only there discretionary income and also have emergency funds, this are the things one should understand before starting, it's very important if you know this quick you won't make mistake newbies make.
Just like you said I will also advice newbies to go for a long term Bitcoin investment rather than going for trading the reason why I'm saying this is because trading is very risky and as a newbie you don't need that or you should do is invest in long term.

[UchihaSarada]

Just like you said I will also advice newbies to go for a long term Bitcoin investment rather than going for trading the reason why I'm saying this is because trading is very risky and as a newbie you don't need that or you should do is invest in long term.

Trading is risky and it's more easily to lose money in trading than to get profit from trading.

If you trade your bitcoins, there is very high risk that you will lose your bitcoin with time. The reason is even with Spot trading, it's hard to make your analysis accurately and predict the market bottom, top or ATH well. So while the advice is "Buying low, selling high", "Buying bottom, selling top", in trading practice you are more likely selling not at the top, not at the ATH. Therefore, after selling you will lose your patience if price continues going up and you will step in with bitcoin purchase at higher price than your selling price. That's why the more time you trade bitcoin, the more risk of losing your bitcoin even you don't trade with leverages and don't suffer from market liquidations.

[IceLincoln]

I will advice you handle both trading and investing as a long term plan of making money, normally it will take years for investment to turn rewarding for you, and learning how to trade takes a long time too, if you rush things up you will pay for it, this is why it matters to have a job aside that will sort out your bills and also make room for some investment.

While you are slowly investing it is also a good time to start taking trading classes or courses too, these things take time and that's why we have too many newbies making wrong decision because they lack patience, they always want to make money as quick as possible, while many others are jobless and they feel crypto is a place to make steady income, nothing will come that easy.

The desire to make money as soon as possible is a human factor that if not properly trained and disciplined it’ll lead you to a great mess and disaster.
Majority of people who go into trading wants to make it quick. Yes there is high level of hardwork, smart work, dedication, consistency and discipline involved before you can make it as a trader. A lot of people you might see as wealthy traders might not be getting their wealths from trading.
 There’s also a higher risk of loss than gain. When you hear the amount of money in billions of dollars that gets liquidated as a result of market volatility on a regular basis, it’s alarming but this doesn’t affect hodlers for a long term.
Hence I wouldn’t advice anyone to go into trading especially for long term.

[Peanutswar]

In long term investing we are keep holding the coin we want some of us will hold until the next cycle but of course its good if you got the position at the lower price still, and other part of it is the trading which could be too in a long term at the same time in the case of you make a position in the futures and till now having the position still but of course there's a fee to hold that position so its up to your risk management to have that gains, or the futures with the quick time frames like an hour and day basis just a quick trend of the market and get a small portion, now its up to your risk management until where you can do it. For me id rather to have both but now waiting for the dump of the market so i can make a good position for the next cycle movement.

[Awaklara]

It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

Every event is an experience for someone, whether for a trader or an investor. You also cannot become a strong investor capable of holding the assets you buy for the long term in a short period of time without experience. Everything requires process and experience to end well. 
Trading is not as bad as you might think. Some traders manage to make profits every day, of course, those who are not greedy multiply their capital. 
Both investing and trading need to be studied, but not everyone may be able to master both easily. Investing is also not as easy as you imagine.

[Zigabel]

In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

There are still trading patterns that also influences some of this that you have mentioned and so i will not say that the traders concept is just about the short term as there are traders who are referred to as a swing traders who can hold positions for a long time and not necessarily get affected by little moves observed in the market, they are not like the day traders and scalpers who you may be referring to but then they are also not investors or maybe a very short term investor. someone can actually be a trader and an investor at same time having divers portfolios with which he uses for the different purposes he wants to use them for. There are times the market can go down so bad and it can affect even the investors because it may happen to be at the time they were hoping to harvest their investment and the price is crashing so hard, at that time they get to suffer what the traders suffer too on a bad day.