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November 11, 2025, 08:43:29 AM
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I agree with that, I mean even though there are some similarities with investing and trading, Like if you are trading your kinda investing as well on cryptocurrency as well, even though technically it wasnt something that long term, your still hoping that your investment is going to make a profit, but not all the time since you could lose your money on future trading, it was just the same on long term investment since you could lose money as well, well technically your not going to lose if your not going to sell your investment but when the value drop your investment value drop as well so your losing as well. Maybe the thing that your referring to is daily trading since daily trading is more like a quick investment where you could expect a profit overnight.


Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.


Trading and investment both involve buying a coin for sure. If you buy a particular coin, then you sell it for a profit. Yes, it is trading, but that is just how long-term investment works. You buy a cryptocurrency and you sold it as well on a profit, so they were just the same thing. The only difference is you hold the long-term investment for a long time so meaning it is a much safer investment than daily trading, since you couldnt really expect to predict the market everytime. Both required knowledge as well, but for sure, daily trading is a much difficult thing to do, since you need to analize a lot of things including the daily news, movements, and personally it was just very stressful doing trading daily since you could lose a huge amount easily if your going to do it daily, unlike doing it ocationally where you only trade when you have higher chane and sure of the trade.

 
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November 11, 2025, 09:19:21 AM
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Both are quite different though some folk still call investment trading , which like a common mistake in this space , Aslong you are dealing with longterm you are more of an investor. Cause you are holding in order to make something good in a long term . While there are different form of trading , but trading mainly about making profit with the market wave for short term gain .
Investment is usually meant for a big capital kept for a long term. Trading is more of a smaller capital with short term. The importance is that both have their own mileage and both are important to be in the portfolio. Long term investments will give decent returns over the years.

Short term investments carry higher risk with higher retirn chances. Use them at your own caution. Non spot trading is risky an I dont recommend it. Day trading on spot market often leads to hair pulling situations.
I don't think it has anything to do with the capital we bring, whether large or small. However, of course, there may be differences of opinion here, and that's normal, because sometimes we convey the same thing but in different ways.

As for trading itself, I don't recommend beginners jumping straight into futures trading, as the risks are very high. By the way, someone I know recently graduated from high school and asked me about futures trading, but I told them to try spot trading first.

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November 11, 2025, 09:38:53 AM
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Trading and long-term investing both require knowledge and experience, most specifically for trading where skills and strategies should be prioritized. And if you think it will be easy for you to profit from investing, the same case does not apply to trading. You need more time and efforts when trading, and undeniably patience and the consistency to keep trading as there are no trades that will earn instant profits, all comes with close market monitoring and deep analysis on the current chart and patterns that exist in the market. While investing is less risky and is quite effortless, trading on the other hand is clearly the opposite.
For you to trade successfully and be profitable, you will need to have knowledge about trading. You will be standing before your computer to check trades if they are intact, run chart adjustment, check the news for what can affect the current price and other things.
Trading is not easy and for you to be successful, there is so many things involved which you don't have to to jump or avoid.
Investing only have limited knowledge for you to be profitable. You can check the news and nothing like seating before your computer to check for charts because you want to hold not to trade.
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Trading and long-term investing both require knowledge and experience, most specifically for trading where skills and strategies should be prioritized. And if you think it will be easy for you to profit from investing, the same case does not apply to trading. You need more time and efforts when trading, and undeniably patience and the consistency to keep trading as there are no trades that will earn instant profits, all comes with close market monitoring and deep analysis on the current chart and patterns that exist in the market. While investing is less risky and is quite effortless, trading on the other hand is clearly the opposite.
For you to trade successfully and be profitable, you will need to have knowledge about trading. You will be standing before your computer to check trades if they are intact, run chart adjustment, check the news for what can affect the current price and other things.
Trading is not easy and for you to be successful, there is so many things involved which you don't have to to jump or avoid.
Investing only have limited knowledge for you to be profitable. You can check the news and nothing like seating before your computer to check for charts because you want to hold not to trade.


As you said, trading is not easy and much more difficult than long term investing. Therefore, knowledge, experience or skills are necessary but it should be noted that they cannot guarantee our success. Those things only help us increase our chances of winning but cannot guarantee anything for us. That is why there are many veteran traders with huge amount of knowledge and experience but still can lose money in trading.

In my opinion, to be successful and make a profit in trading, it takes a lot of factors and sometimes a little bit of luck too. Sometimes knowledge and experience alone are not enough.


It can be said that trading has never been for the masses.

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November 11, 2025, 05:14:25 PM
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I agree with that, I mean even though there are some similarities with investing and trading, Like if you are trading your kinda investing as well on cryptocurrency as well, even though technically it wasnt something that long term, your still hoping that your investment is going to make a profit, but not all the time since you could lose your money on future trading, it was just the same on long term investment since you could lose money as well, well technically your not going to lose if your not going to sell your investment but when the value drop your investment value drop as well so your losing as well. Maybe the thing that your referring to is daily trading since daily trading is more like a quick investment where you could expect a profit overnight.

When it comes to the issue of trading and investment, they look kind of similar as both of them as to do with putting money into crypto to make some profits but the there is still difference between trading and investments, when we talk about trading, it is a fast thing to do and you can make money quickly from the system or lose it very fast too. But when it comes to investments it is a long term thing so it requires you to have a strong mind because price can drop alot but all you have to do is to watch it happen. I know it hurts so much when value goes down but if you don't sell it, you won't really lose anything and as a matter of time, you will reap beyond you have sow if you are patient enough to keep investing without losing hopes especially on bitcoin. Futures trading is even the most scary but most profitable thing unlike spots trading which allows you to buy the asset and when the asset grows back in value you gain.

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November 11, 2025, 05:37:43 PM
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The mindset is never the same. And many new investors confuse the two together, resulting in confusion and the possibility of major losses. When someone invests, he has to hold onto his assets with faith in the future and even when the market goes up and down, he has to keep his goal intact and continue investing for the long term.

In this case, an investor should understand that the market will never move in one line. On the other hand, in the case of trading mindset, time is short, quick decisions have to be made and the market has to be analyzed, which often causes mental stress. The market fluctuations determine and affect the profits of a trader.
 Due to which, when someone enters the training, he has to observe and analyze the charts and everything, otherwise a small mistake can cause major financial losses.
In trading, hoping to get small profits easily, big financial losses can occur.

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November 11, 2025, 07:26:57 PM
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In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

Traders take advantage of the temporary changes in the market and it is very different from investments, a lot of people mix these up but they don't know that they are distinct. Making profit from trading takes a lot of knowledge and skill, this doesn't mean that investing in any coin is easier but compared to trading it doesn't require you to sit in front of your computer for hours studying the charts.

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November 11, 2025, 10:34:38 PM
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Traders take advantage of the temporary changes in the market and it is very different from investments, a lot of people mix these up but they don't know that they are distinct. Making profit from trading takes a lot of knowledge and skill, this doesn't mean that investing in any coin is easier but compared to trading it doesn't require you to sit in front of your computer for hours studying the charts.
You know some people think that trading is very easy not knowing that it requires a lot of knowledge for you to make a profit in Trading, and before you make a huge amount of profit in Trading you have practice for long time and you have also known the rudiment of trading by observing some certain protocols of trading...
For someone to understand trading, the person have to learn the protocols of trading first and understand the advantages and disadvantages of trading.

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November 11, 2025, 10:35:33 PM
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In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

The difference between trading and long-term investing,
Since investment is planned for a long term, small changes in the market do not affect an investor, as a result of which the investor does not care much about this small fluctuation in the market. In this case, trading is different, the main purpose of trading is to earn a small amount of profit, to earn this small amount of profit, a trader always has to keep an eye on the changes in the market and when the trader thinks that the market has come down relatively now and he should buy a coin, he buys a coin and when the profit is as expected, he sells it. It is wrong to think that a trader will profit by trading, many times it is seen that a trader is facing a lot of money loss for a small amount of profit. Even if the market goes down a lot after investing in a long term plan, it is normal for an investor, but for a trader, a small dumping of the market can cause a lot of loss.

Traders take advantage of the temporary changes in the market and it is very different from investments, a lot of people mix these up but they don't know that they are distinct. Making profit from trading takes a lot of knowledge and skill, this doesn't mean that investing in any coin is easier but compared to trading it doesn't require you to sit in front of your computer for hours studying the charts.

Yes, I completely agree with you that trading and investing are two different things. As you said, trading seeks profit by exploiting temporary market fluctuations, and trading requires more specific knowledge than investing. Trading is more technical analysis, while investing is fundamental.

However, both are still risky activities. Trading can be riskier than investing because it's more emotionally driven, as trading requires greater market involvement. Therefore, for beginners, my advice is to first invest before trading, such as in the spot market. Besides the lower risk, you can also gain knowledge and insight into trading over time.

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Trading and long-term investing are both profitable in nature, but they do have different level of risk, trading which plays highly risky than long-term investing itself that can even be possible by saving a good amount of bitcoin today and just come back again when you think you are ready to sell for impressive profits.

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Trading and long-term investing are both profitable in nature, but they do have different level of risk, trading which plays highly risky than long-term investing itself that can even be possible by saving a good amount of bitcoin today and just come back again when you think you are ready to sell for impressive profits.

However, if you rush trading or even investing alone without basic knowledge, success will not even be possible. You need to be aware first on how to make them work individually so you can set your goals and plan your actions and decisions.

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In the new situation, we almost equate trading and investing. Trading and long-term investing are two completely different things, let us discuss these issues in detail below.

Buying a coin is not considered an investment, if a person buys a particular coin and sells it for some profit then it is considered trading. Investing is when you buy a reliable coin and try to hold it for a long time.

So what if someone buys altcoins like BNB and ETH and holds them, is that also considered a long-term investment? I see you saying buying altcoins isn't an investment.
Unless someone buys and then sells again in the near future, I agree that it's not a long-term investment, as it's more like trading.
Investing and trading are different because we generally evaluate a long-term investment based on the timeframe, which is why it's called a long-term investment.
In contrast, when someone buys and then sells for a small or large profit within a short period of time, that's what we call trading.

Many people misunderstand the terminology, but I'm sure almost everyone understands long-term investment and trading because we usually get the terms mixed up in every discussion, and I myself may have gotten them mixed up occasionally during discussions.

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I agree with that, I mean even though there are some similarities with investing and trading, Like if you are trading your kinda investing as well on cryptocurrency as well, even though technically it wasnt something that long term, your still hoping that your investment is going to make a profit, but not all the time since you could lose your money on future trading, it was just the same on long term investment since you could lose money as well, well technically your not going to lose if your not going to sell your investment but when the value drop your investment value drop as well so your losing as well. Maybe the thing that your referring to is daily trading since daily trading is more like a quick investment where you could expect a profit overnight.

There are similarities between trading and investing but there are also differences that make the two different and one more better than the other. Of course it's investing that's the better to do but trading too can be done by those individual that have leant the skills very much and can comfortably do it without losing to the market. There are some precautions you can take while trading and trading won't be difficult for you. Some of them include only making use of spare cash while you're starting and wait until you have mastered trading very well before investing big in your capital. The same can be said about investing too because with experience, you can have more confidence to put more money in either trading or investing.

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As you said, trading is not easy and much more difficult than long term investing. Therefore, knowledge, experience or skills are necessary but it should be noted that they cannot guarantee our success. Those things only help us increase our chances of winning but cannot guarantee anything for us. That is why there are many veteran traders with huge amount of knowledge and experience but still can lose money in trading.

In my opinion, to be successful and make a profit in trading, it takes a lot of factors and sometimes a little bit of luck too. Sometimes knowledge and experience alone are not enough.


It can be said that trading has never been for the masses.

Trading is inherently risky, and yes, these risks can be significant, especially if we trade haphazardly and rely entirely on luck. That's ridiculous. Essentially, we can learn to avoid losses, but even so, your point is correct. Even the best skills, knowledge, and experience don't guarantee smooth success. Undesirable outcomes, such as losses, are inevitable.
Profiting from trading may depend on our own skills, knowledge, and strategy, but with the addition of luck, it's a winning combination. Unfortunately, we don't know when luck will strike or how long it will last.

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I agree with that, I mean even though there are some similarities with investing and trading, Like if you are trading your kinda investing as well on cryptocurrency as well, even though technically it wasnt something that long term, your still hoping that your investment is going to make a profit, but not all the time since you could lose your money on future trading, it was just the same on long term investment since you could lose money as well, well technically your not going to lose if your not going to sell your investment but when the value drop your investment value drop as well so your losing as well. Maybe the thing that your referring to is daily trading since daily trading is more like a quick investment where you could expect a profit overnight.

There are similarities between trading and investing but there are also differences that make the two different and one more better than the other. Of course it's investing that's the better to do but trading too can be done by those individual that have leant the skills very much and can comfortably do it without losing to the market. There are some precautions you can take while trading and trading won't be difficult for you. Some of them include only making use of spare cash while you're starting and wait until you have mastered trading very well before investing big in your capital. The same can be said about investing too because with experience, you can have more confidence to put more money in either trading or investing.
The differences between trading and investing must be clearly understood, the ultimate goal of both is to achieve success, and if they are not managed effectively, it is never possible to achieve success from it.Trading is basically an attempt to profit from short-term fluctuations, where quick decision-making, analyzing market trends and being skilled in risk management are very important. And investing is basically about achieving success in the long term, patience, planning and regularly building a financial foundation are the main goals, which will bring you success after a long time, not short-term success. So you have to be educated in these matters, one is less risky and the other is more risky, but if you do not manage it properly, you will face losses in both cases.

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Trading and long-term investing are both profitable in nature, but they do have different level of risk, trading which plays highly risky than long-term investing itself that can even be possible by saving a good amount of bitcoin today and just come back again when you think you are ready to sell for impressive profits.

However, if you rush trading or even investing alone without basic knowledge, success will not even be possible. You need to be aware first on how to make them work individually so you can set your goals and plan your actions and decisions.
If we compare investing with long-term trading, I don’t see much difference, because in both cases you’ll be hold the coins for a long time. I personally distinguish these things by time, long-term trading involves trades that can last even up to a year, while anything longer that can last for years is already investing, which implies that you are more confident in the asset you are buying and ready to hold it for that long. That’s how I treat Bitcoin, for me it’s an investment for years, because I’m most confident in this asset.

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November 13, 2025, 08:48:07 AM
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Both are quite different though some folk still call investment trading , which like a common mistake in this space , Aslong you are dealing with longterm you are more of an investor. Cause you are holding in order to make something good in a long term . While there are different form of trading , but trading mainly about making profit with the market wave for short term gain .


They are very different, and there is action in one, and in the other one, there is no action, because when you are investing you don't need to do too much is just for to buy and monitor the way the market is going but for trading you have to read meaning to patterns and know the next move in the market and that way it will be very much more easier. And people need to know the difference, and I'm sure some people don't know of this, and that's why the best thing is for them to seek knowledge.

And when you are holding, you have to hold with the intention that it's going to be for a long time, and trading is just for a short time, and at the same time, it comes with a lot of responsibility, and that is why trading is not for everyone, compared to holding, which can be managed by everyone, people need to know what they are capable of handling so that they don't make the mistake of going for what they can not handle and that i just the best way to be safe in this space.
saying that trading isn't for everyone makes it sound as pick that there are set of people that are perfect with trading.
Anyone saying trading is not for everyone might be pessimistic in nature, but is surely saying the truth. Some things could be permissible, but that doesn't mean they are fitting, and as a trader of over 2 decades, I am sure that trading is so dangerous than helpful. If you check the statistics, you will realise that 70% to 90% retail traders lose their money, and about 1-3% gains consistent, while the remaining are intermittent in results

This should naturally tell you that trading is not easy. Anyone trying to do it must be ready for all what it takes, like: being financially, emotional and strategically ready. Are you telling me that everybody is ready in all those 3 categories? I guess not!

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November 13, 2025, 12:24:44 PM
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Trading and long term investing both have the same goal people did that for profit but trading is more difficult than investor because to gets profit the trader should be learn about market condition such as technical analysis besides that trading also more risky than investing because if people were failed to predict the movement prices of the particular coins certainly they will faced the decision to cut loss which in this case they will lost their money

But being investor is more easy compared to trader especially the investor who very like to invest at the particular coins for long term because all they have to do is to buy some coins and hold it for months or probably for years until they can reach their target profit and sell the coins immediatelly and i have to says everybody can being an the investor but not everybody can being an the trader because trading is more complicate than investing

 
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Trading is inherently risky, and yes, these risks can be significant, especially if we trade haphazardly and rely entirely on luck. That's ridiculous. Essentially, we can learn to avoid losses, but even so, your point is correct. Even the best skills, knowledge, and experience don't guarantee smooth success. Undesirable outcomes, such as losses, are inevitable.
Profiting from trading may depend on our own skills, knowledge, and strategy, but with the addition of luck, it's a winning combination. Unfortunately, we don't know when luck will strike or how long it will last.
Furthermore, the level of luck varies greatly among traders, so some traders simply won't have the same luck on different days. This is something all traders need to understand because trading isn't solely about skill, knowledge, and experience; ultimately, luck also comes down to personal preference. Currently, I'm not trading very regularly because I'm still a little uncertain about market conditions, which sometimes seem stagnant and sometimes experience price declines. So, I prefer to wait for a more opportune moment if I want to focus on trading in the next few days.

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November 13, 2025, 02:29:48 PM
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Trading is inherently risky, and yes, these risks can be significant, especially if we trade haphazardly and rely entirely on luck. That's ridiculous. Essentially, we can learn to avoid losses, but even so, your point is correct. Even the best skills, knowledge, and experience don't guarantee smooth success. Undesirable outcomes, such as losses, are inevitable.
Profiting from trading may depend on our own skills, knowledge, and strategy, but with the addition of luck, it's a winning combination. Unfortunately, we don't know when luck will strike or how long it will last.
Furthermore, the level of luck varies greatly among traders, so some traders simply won't have the same luck on different days. This is something all traders need to understand because trading isn't solely about skill, knowledge, and experience; ultimately, luck also comes down to personal preference. Currently, I'm not trading very regularly because I'm still a little uncertain about market conditions, which sometimes seem stagnant and sometimes experience price declines. So, I prefer to wait for a more opportune moment if I want to focus on trading in the next few days.
I do not completely agree with you. A trader is successful in most cases because of the decisions he makes with a combination of skill, knowledge and experience. Just as luck affects winning or losing in gambling, in trading, profit depends on experience. Many people think that luck is a psychological thing and people who believe in it are lazy. This is logical in many cases because there are many traders who trade depending on luck and instead of being skilled, they buy based on guesses and advice from others and they lose most of the time. I personally believe in luck and I also believe that decisions made through effort and skill can most of the time meet the goal. Those who depend on luck most of the time lose in trading. You need to practice about the coins and price of the market and long term experience plays an important role in making the right decisions.

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