Trading and long-term investing

[maknyos]

Trading can potentially lose money, while investing doesn't (unless you're investing in an unknown coin whose value could drop 99% in a short period of time). I think the difference is quite clear.

Both have a potential lose, and the different of this only the way to entry and close for profit or cut loss
For trading
- Trading can be open and close at anytime as we want and we are taking profit or cut loss more often than investing. Why they are called as trader, because they are making any purchase and selling every day. just like in traditional market, you bought something for selling in the next day. this is trade

While investing
Investing just like you are buying a part of stock or coins or wathever in real life, and you are not doing anything with this until you have a target for long period. let say you want to invest for 12 months, you will keep this until the due date. No matter how the market will be, you will keep yours until the date.
So, within 12 months, do you really sure if the price will increase? no, everything can happens, and it also have a potential loss. Except you are buying a house, that maybe always increase every years.

CMIIW

Yes, you're right. I might have said earlier that investments have no potential for loss, but what I meant by "no loss" is that you don't lose money, unlike trading. If we open a position and then our prediction is wrong, we close it at a loss. However, with investing, we don't need to close a position; as long as we're investing in a potential asset, we just need to wait it out.
There's nothing wrong here at all; it's just a difference in our approach. Overall, I agree with this.

[Bushdark]

Both are very different, investment and trading both require capital but the way of working is different, the point is to seek profit. We can choose between the two, whether to be a trader or an investment, a trader must have a strategy and method to multiply money quickly and have high risks.
Choosing a safer one is choosing to invest in the right coin, wait until there is a profit after that sell it and it takes a lot of time and patience in investing.

Trading wisely can also be safe, although it still carries risks that every trader should fully understand. However, the guarantee of profit from trading is clearly the same as in general trading, which can sometimes be large or small, or even none at all due to price corrections. Investing, on the other hand, is the most relaxing activity, although it still carries risks and requires significant time sacrifices to achieve future profits. Therefore, the choice of assets must be absolutely precise in this regard, as it should not be chosen haphazardly without research.

Trading wisely is trying to not stay greedy and try to make fast money from the market which can bring loses.
People that have exhibited the pattern of trading wisely are mostly known as responsible traders because they do thank their time to observe the market before they pace any trade. When you don't trade wisely, you are capable of losing money to the market because you might understand how to check for trend and market charts for a better entering but their are other factors that can make you lose money to the market and that can make you to be complaining bitterly.

[Bobrox]

Yes, you're right. I might have said earlier that investments have no potential for loss, but what I meant by "no loss" is that you don't lose money, unlike trading. If we open a position and then our prediction is wrong, we close it at a loss. However, with investing, we don't need to close a position; as long as we're investing in a potential asset, we just need to wait it out.
There's nothing wrong here at all; it's just a difference in our approach. Overall, I agree with this.

Decreasing valuable when price down its mean of investing but all investor have already for that moment without worry as their target investing for longer time, difference position when trading for short term have target to take profit as quick as like daily or weekly and not scare for stop loss if price going down. For long term investment actually will invest at top coins less percentage will dump drastically has opportunity for long term moment will raise to higher price.
If you want get trading actually looking for the altcoin has bigger chance raise up in short term around daily or weekly, so each person have own strategy for investing assets or trading depend which one easily for controlling. I think investor want check market for every day so take decision for investing.

[nara1892]

Both have a potential lose, and the different of this only the way to entry and close for profit or cut loss
For trading
- Trading can be open and close at anytime as we want and we are taking profit or cut loss more often than investing. Why they are called as trader, because they are making any purchase and selling every day. just like in traditional market, you bought something for selling in the next day. this is trade

While investing
Investing just like you are buying a part of stock or coins or wathever in real life, and you are not doing anything with this until you have a target for long period. let say you want to invest for 12 months, you will keep this until the due date. No matter how the market will be, you will keep yours until the date.
So, within 12 months, do you really sure if the price will increase? no, everything can happens, and it also have a potential loss. Except you are buying a house, that maybe always increase every years.

CMIIW

Yes, you're right. I might have said earlier that investments have no potential for loss, but what I meant by "no loss" is that you don't lose money, unlike trading. If we open a position and then our prediction is wrong, we close it at a loss. However, with investing, we don't need to close a position; as long as we're investing in a potential asset, we just need to wait it out.
There's nothing wrong here at all; it's just a difference in our approach. Overall, I agree with this.

I think I'll clarify based on my understanding that investing isn't without its downsides. The risk of loss remains, as this is a volatile market, but not as severe as trading. In investing, the risk of loss remains, but as long as you don't close out your accumulation in that asset, the opportunity for recovery or a return to profit is very possible. I've seen most investors, especially beginners, stop their accumulation when they see a decline, when in fact, it's just a correction the market is making before rising higher.
The bottom line is that investing also carries risks, but as long as you invest your money in reliable assets and don't close out when the market drops, your losses can still be recovered.

[Adams0001]

Both are very different, investment and trading both require capital but the way of working is different, the point is to seek profit. We can choose between the two, whether to be a trader or an investment, a trader must have a strategy and method to multiply money quickly and have high risks.
Choosing a safer one is choosing to invest in the right coin, wait until there is a profit after that sell it and it takes a lot of time and patience in investing.

Sure, trading and investment are different things and everyone go for what works for him most. Trading is a short term and you need to understand it very well and get experience and knowledge before you can succeed in it and you can't get guarantees of getting profits because the market is volatile they will have the time the market will favour you and you will be profitable and they get when he won't go well that moment and you need to get the Knowledge first before you can be profitable in trading.

investment in crypto or let me say investing in bitcoin even you  don't have much knowledge about it If you invest you can be profitable because is long term investment and you don't have any task to be doing is just for you to set your target and leave it for long term, and wait for your profit. Most people prefer trading then investment because they need fast money and they are not patient enough to be investing for the long term, then they will just focus more in trading and you need to get more knowledge in trading before you can be successful in it is not like investment.

[free-bit.co.in]

I think I'll clarify based on my understanding that investing isn't without its downsides. The risk of loss remains, as this is a volatile market, but not as severe as trading. In investing, the risk of loss remains, but as long as you don't close out your accumulation in that asset, the opportunity for recovery or a return to profit is very possible. I've seen most investors, especially beginners, stop their accumulation when they see a decline, when in fact, it's just a correction the market is making before rising higher.
The bottom line is that investing also carries risks, but as long as you invest your money in reliable assets and don't close out when the market drops, your losses can still be recovered.

Once you invest, it means you are accepting risk, whether long term or short term. Because no investment is completely safe and risk-free, and there is no way to guarantee absolute returns.

However, long term investments are generally lower risk. Because with long term investments, we can avoid the unpredictable fluctuations of short term markets. That way, we can minimize losses and increase our chances of making big profits in the future. Meanwhile, short term investing or trading is riskier because market fluctuations are difficult to predict, making risk management difficult.

[ASloveapg]

I think I'll clarify based on my understanding that investing isn't without its downsides. The risk of loss remains, as this is a volatile market, but not as severe as trading. In investing, the risk of loss remains, but as long as you don't close out your accumulation in that asset, the opportunity for recovery or a return to profit is very possible. I've seen most investors, especially beginners, stop their accumulation when they see a decline, when in fact, it's just a correction the market is making before rising higher.
The bottom line is that investing also carries risks, but as long as you invest your money in reliable assets and don't close out when the market drops, your losses can still be recovered.

Once you invest, it means you are accepting risk, whether long term or short term. Because no investment is completely safe and risk-free, and there is no way to guarantee absolute returns.

However, long term investments are generally lower risk. Because with long term investments, we can avoid the unpredictable fluctuations of short term markets. That way, we can minimize losses and increase our chances of making big profits in the future. Meanwhile, short term investing or trading is riskier because market fluctuations are difficult to predict, making risk management difficult.

There is no certainty anywhere, there is uncertainty everywhere, and you have to take risks based on this uncertainty. By understanding the difference between short-term risk and long-term risk, you have to take risks according to your ability and achieve success. But when someone does not want to take any kind of risk, then with this risk-free thinking, he will never be able to reach any good financial level. Trading, investing, business, there will be risks in everything, but you have to know how to manage and you have to take risks correctly.

[Mehmet69]

There is no certainty anywhere, there is uncertainty everywhere, and you have to take risks based on this uncertainty. By understanding the difference between short-term risk and long-term risk, you have to take risks according to your ability and achieve success. But when someone does not want to take any kind of risk, then with this risk-free thinking, he will never be able to reach any good financial level. Trading, investing, business, there will be risks in everything, but you have to know how to manage and you have to take risks correctly.

Yes, you are right. Both trading and investing have risks. But the risk in investing is less and the risk in trading is more. Because currently new traders do not want to learn trading. Trading is a learning subject. If you do not learn trading, it is much more risky. There is no difference between trading and gambling without learning. But if you learn trading, it is possible to reduce the risk.

It is not that investing or trading is completely uncertain. Both have risks but the level of risk is different. If you gain knowledge about risk correctly, it is possible to control big or small risks. Therefore, only if we can learn to deal with risk correctly, we can be financially successful.

[Crypto Library]

Yes, you are right. Both trading and investing have risks. But the risk in investing is less and the risk in trading is more. Because currently new traders do not want to learn trading. Trading is a learning subject. If you do not learn trading, it is much more risky. There is no difference between trading and gambling without learning. But if you learn trading, it is possible to reduce the risk.

It is not that investing or trading is completely uncertain. Both have risks but the level of risk is different. If you gain knowledge about risk correctly, it is possible to control big or small risks. Therefore, only if we can learn to deal with risk correctly, we can be financially successful.

Actually in my point of view I think that trading and investing both are interconnected, like we know trading have two words one is buy and another is selling.
And when we do trading in short time like in a hour or day or week or month it called the short term trading and when we do long term trading like buy on bear season and selling on bull season that Call the long term trading. And what do we understand by long-term trading as an investment.  So generally I think we present these two one by one. Some call long term trading as investment and some call short term trading as trading.

[GIF-JOBS]

Yes, you are right. Both trading and investing have risks. But the risk in investing is less and the risk in trading is more. Because currently new traders do not want to learn trading. Trading is a learning subject. If you do not learn trading, it is much more risky. There is no difference between trading and gambling without learning. But if you learn trading, it is possible to reduce the risk.

It is not that investing or trading is completely uncertain. Both have risks but the level of risk is different. If you gain knowledge about risk correctly, it is possible to control big or small risks. Therefore, only if we can learn to deal with risk correctly, we can be financially successful.

Actually in my point of view I think that trading and investing both are interconnected, like we know trading have two words one is buy and another is selling.
And when we do trading in short time like in a hour or day or week or month it called the short term trading and when we do long term trading like buy on bear season and selling on bull season that Call the long term trading. And what do we understand by long-term trading as an investment.  So generally I think we present these two one by one. Some call long term trading as investment and some call short term trading as trading.

In this case I agree with you, buying on bear season and selling on bull season, this long-term trading is considered by many as investment, but they should understand this clearly. We can call investment investment only when our investment is for at least 4 years, less than 4 years these are just trading. In fact both are some some a little same structure, only the style, strategy and time frame are different, but even then mixing them together can never be the right decision.

[Crypto Library]

In this case I agree with you, buying on bear season and selling on bull season, this long-term trading is considered by many as investment, but they should understand this clearly. We can call investment investment only when our investment is for at least 4 years, less than 4 years these are just trading. In fact both are some some a little same structure, only the style, strategy and time frame are different, but even then mixing them together can never be the right decision.

Not like that,,, I am meaning that  We can call any type of buy an investment, and just as we can call any type of investment a type of trading(like short-term trading or long-term trading), we can also call it trading. Actually, the meaning is that these words are interconnected.
And there is no obligation about that investments less than 4years are trading or only above the 4year is investment.

[nara1892]

I think I'll clarify based on my understanding that investing isn't without its downsides. The risk of loss remains, as this is a volatile market, but not as severe as trading. In investing, the risk of loss remains, but as long as you don't close out your accumulation in that asset, the opportunity for recovery or a return to profit is very possible. I've seen most investors, especially beginners, stop their accumulation when they see a decline, when in fact, it's just a correction the market is making before rising higher.
The bottom line is that investing also carries risks, but as long as you invest your money in reliable assets and don't close out when the market drops, your losses can still be recovered.

Once you invest, it means you are accepting risk, whether long term or short term. Because no investment is completely safe and risk-free, and there is no way to guarantee absolute returns.

However, long term investments are generally lower risk. Because with long term investments, we can avoid the unpredictable fluctuations of short term markets. That way, we can minimize losses and increase our chances of making big profits in the future. Meanwhile, short term investing or trading is riskier because market fluctuations are difficult to predict, making risk management difficult.

Thank you for completing my idea above, my friend. This also means that it's better for beginners to invest rather than trade. I understand that everyone is free to make their own choices, but long-term investment is more recommended.

Furthermore, I would also say that you need to have a high level of patience and a strong mentality. In most cases, investors who fail or quit midway are usually those who lack confidence and are afraid when the market experiences a downturn. For me, that's actually a golden opportunity for me to increase my accumulation rather than stop.

[puloweh555]

Yes, you are right. Both trading and investing have risks. But the risk in investing is less and the risk in trading is more. Because currently new traders do not want to learn trading. Trading is a learning subject. If you do not learn trading, it is much more risky. There is no difference between trading and gambling without learning. But if you learn trading, it is possible to reduce the risk.

It is not that investing or trading is completely uncertain. Both have risks but the level of risk is different. If you gain knowledge about risk correctly, it is possible to control big or small risks. Therefore, only if we can learn to deal with risk correctly, we can be financially successful.

We should consider both trading and investing as subjects because learning them never ends. Even professionals consider every trading or investment activity a lesson for the future. Yes, in terms of risk, long-term investments certainly carry lower risks than trading, but both can lead to success if we continue to learn properly in analysis, risk management, financial management, and emotional control.

If given the choice between trading and investing, I would choose investing because it saves you the hassle of constantly monitoring the market, as the goal is long-term. However it's ultimately up to each individual to choose between the two but to achieve success in both we must continue to learn and learn.

[pusaka]

Thank you for completing my idea above, my friend. This also means that it's better for beginners to invest rather than trade. I understand that everyone is free to make their own choices, but long-term investment is more recommended.

Furthermore, I would also say that you need to have a high level of patience and a strong mentality. In most cases, investors who fail or quit midway are usually those who lack confidence and are afraid when the market experiences a downturn. For me, that's actually a golden opportunity for me to increase my accumulation rather than stop.

I always recommend that beginners invest rather than trade. Investing carries a lower risk than trading, and it's great for building their mentality. When we invest and see the market drop, we'll know our mentality, whether we'll panic or remain calm.

The reason is that when trading, the risk isn't just loss, but it can also lead to the loss of our money. Investing, on the other hand, only reduces our money, and we can hold on until the price recovers. However, we must invest in the right coins.

[edy_58]

We should consider both trading and investing as subjects because learning them never ends. Even professionals consider every trading or investment activity a lesson for the future. Yes, in terms of risk, long-term investments certainly carry lower risks than trading, but both can lead to success if we continue to learn properly in analysis, risk management, financial management, and emotional control.

If given the choice between trading and investing, I would choose investing because it saves you the hassle of constantly monitoring the market, as the goal is long-term. However it's ultimately up to each individual to choose between the two but to achieve success in both we must continue to learn and learn.

You are right to view trading and investing as never-ending lessons. This will be very helpful when trading or investing because there will always be new things to discover when investing. Therefore, it is crucial for everyone to continue learning to adapt when trading and investing. I agree with the choice you made because this will be much easier for anyone to do and of course we must be ready to maintain the assets we invest in the long term to be able to generate profits and continue to gather knowledge about both of these things will certainly be very important because without the right knowledge of course the capital we use for investment and trading will not be able to get good results.

[Koadharber]

We should consider both trading and investing as subjects because learning them never ends. Even professionals consider every trading or investment activity a lesson for the future. Yes, in terms of risk, long-term investments certainly carry lower risks than trading, but both can lead to success if we continue to learn properly in analysis, risk management, financial management, and emotional control.

If given the choice between trading and investing, I would choose investing because it saves you the hassle of constantly monitoring the market, as the goal is long-term. However it's ultimately up to each individual to choose between the two but to achieve success in both we must continue to learn and learn.

You are right to view trading and investing as never-ending lessons. This will be very helpful when trading or investing because there will always be new things to discover when investing. Therefore, it is crucial for everyone to continue learning to adapt when trading and investing. I agree with the choice you made because this will be much easier for anyone to do and of course we must be ready to maintain the assets we invest in the long term to be able to generate profits and continue to gather knowledge about both of these things will certainly be very important because without the right knowledge of course the capital we use for investment and trading will not be able to get good results.

Treating both trading and investing as continuous learning processes is exactly the right mindset the markets are always evolving driven by new technologies regulations and macroeconomic shifts so no one ever truly “masters” them even the most seasoned investors and traders are still students of the game constantly refining their strategies.

Long term investing does provide more stability because it relies on patience and the strength of time instead of constant market timing but it still requires consistent effort understanding fundamentals risk management and emotional discipline meanwhile trading demands even more active learning since price behavior and volatility change almost daily. Choosing investing over trading often suits people who prefer steady growth and less stress it allows more time to focus on building conviction around assets rather than reacting to every market move yet regardless of the path we take the key is continuous education absorbing lessons from both wins and losses and staying adaptable because in financial markets the moment you stop learning is the moment you start falling behind.

[Baki202]

There is no certainty anywhere, there is uncertainty everywhere, and you have to take risks based on this uncertainty. By understanding the difference between short-term risk and long-term risk, you have to take risks according to your ability and achieve success. But when someone does not want to take any kind of risk, then with this risk-free thinking, he will never be able to reach any good financial level. Trading, investing, business, there will be risks in everything, but you have to know how to manage and you have to take risks correctly.

There might not be certainty, it is a matter of being ready to take risks, and when you are ready to take risks, then I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to, because there are people who are short-term and even more risky when it comes to trading compared to long-term trading. And there are ways that risk can be taken responsibly, and that is why, when you want to trade, the best thing is for the involved party to study and see if they have the capacity to manage short-term trading, and it is not everyone who can manage such emotional pressure.

There is no financial freedom when you don't want to take a risk, because even if you don't take a risk, then there will not be any change in the situation, because we are only in the struggle, so you just have to take a risk so that you won't, and everything is about how much time you spend on how to get better at it, it all depends on how committed you are, because consistency is what gives you more. and everything is about how every individual manages exactly what they want, because trading needs knowledge to be able to trade.

[NewRanger]

There might not be certainty, it is a matter of being ready to take risks, and when you are ready to take risks, then I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to, because there are people who are short-term and even more risky when it comes to trading compared to long-term trading. And there are ways that risk can be taken responsibly, and that is why, when you want to trade, the best thing is for the involved party to study and see if they have the capacity to manage short-term trading, and it is not everyone who can manage such emotional pressure.

There is no financial freedom when you don't want to take a risk, because even if you don't take a risk, then there will not be any change in the situation, because we are only in the struggle, so you just have to take a risk so that you won't, and everything is about how much time you spend on how to get better at it, it all depends on how committed you are, because consistency is what gives you more. and everything is about how every individual manages exactly what they want, because trading needs knowledge to be able to trade.

It's undeniable that trading requires knowledge, especially for day traders. They must have a solid grasp of technical analysis. This way, they know whether market conditions are ripe for entry or are still in their trap. Large whales typically set their traps. They attempt to manipulate prices by pretending they've already started with a market pump. This would be even better, and if we don't understand intraday support and resistance levels, we'll be trapped in the wrong position.

Intraday or swing trading may have lower risks and a wider range, making it safer. For the long term, we need to cultivate optimism so we don't sell Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency assets at a low price and continue to do so when the market corrects like last week and that we all see.

[GIF-JOBS]

Yes, you are right. Both trading and investing have risks. But the risk in investing is less and the risk in trading is more. Because currently new traders do not want to learn trading. Trading is a learning subject. If you do not learn trading, it is much more risky. There is no difference between trading and gambling without learning. But if you learn trading, it is possible to reduce the risk.

It is not that investing or trading is completely uncertain. Both have risks but the level of risk is different. If you gain knowledge about risk correctly, it is possible to control big or small risks. Therefore, only if we can learn to deal with risk correctly, we can be financially successful.

We should consider both trading and investing as subjects because learning them never ends. Even professionals consider every trading or investment activity a lesson for the future. Yes, in terms of risk, long-term investments certainly carry lower risks than trading, but both can lead to success if we continue to learn properly in analysis, risk management, financial management, and emotional control.

If given the choice between trading and investing, I would choose investing because it saves you the hassle of constantly monitoring the market, as the goal is long-term. However it's ultimately up to each individual to choose between the two but to achieve success in both we must continue to learn and learn.

In fact every matter has its own risks, nothing happens without risks, so before you start managing any matter, you need to know about its risks first. Trading and investing are both risky in their own way, but if you manage it properly, you can achieve success by avoiding these risks. All you need is complete knowledge, which is the most difficult to achieve, a lot of time, and a mentality of not giving up. If you work hard and persist, then of course everything is possible.

[Swordsoffreedom]

In fact every matter has its own risks, nothing happens without risks, so before you start managing any matter, you need to know about its risks first. Trading and investing are both risky in their own way, but if you manage it properly, you can achieve success by avoiding these risks. All you need is complete knowledge, which is the most difficult to achieve, a lot of time, and a mentality of not giving up. If you work hard and persist, then of course everything is possible.

I think what you say is true for investing, not necessarily for trading.


Unlike investing, with knowledge and experience we are almost certain to make a profit and succeed one day if we put in the effort without stopping. But with trading, it depends. Knowledge, experience and skills are not enough to guarantee your success. Trading requires much more than that, such as psychological control, discipline and adaptability, and not everyone can do those things. Even experienced traders sometimes lose control of their emotions and fail to maintain discipline, let alone traders with just 3 or 5 years of experience.


It is not for nothing that people say, trading is not for everyone. So if we are not suitable, stop before it is too late.