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November 05, 2025, 07:03:53 AM
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Are you sure you dressed as well as you do now? Or that you had all these things you bought over time to emphasize your status? There's a phenomenon in psychology: as soon as we earn more, we start wanting better things, thinking, "I deserve it," and we don't even notice how we're buying more and better things, no longer content with what's less. Perhaps this applies to you.

Well, if you think about it, I didn't have a girlfriend before, and maybe I really was content with less. But there's one thing. If you don't spend money here and now on urgent needs, like dental care, that doesn't mean it can go on forever. On the contrary. The longer you go without dental care, the worse it gets. I can put it off for a month or two, but then I'll have to get it treated and pay back the money. There's no escape from it. It's a necessary measure. And this applies to health, things and home appliances, and, of course, a smartphone. Life requires constant financial investment.

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November 05, 2025, 09:29:22 AM
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Although this idea seems very strange, basically we work to survive and we have to manage our lives by working. In that case, we constantly work a lot to manage our daily lives just to survive. We work because of which we live, if we do not work, we will not get money and will not be able to buy any kind of food, without food a person will not be able to live for a very long time. Accordingly, we can say that basically we work to survive, so that we can manage our lives beautifully and do something good for the future. Of course, working is necessary for every person, it will reach the goal of achieving success in his daily life, so hard work is the birth of good luck.

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November 05, 2025, 10:22:46 PM
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The harsh truth that most of us don’t want to admit even if we love what we do it still becomes work at some point because we’re doing it for survival not just for passion people say “find a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life” but that’s not really true in this economy even the job you love can drain you when bills keep piling up and responsibilities don’t stop

You’re right too we can’t just stop working and live freely because no one can live without money at least not in today’s world food, shelter, family everything needs it the idea of “living to work” feels sad because it sounds like we’ve lost balance but for many people it’s the only way to keep life moving. What’s important is finding small moments within that cycle to feel alive again like spending time with your family, enjoying little wins, resting properly it might not break the cycle but it reminds you that you’re still human not just a machine earning money to survive. Maybe that’s the real goal, not to escape work completely but to make it meaningful enough so it doesn’t feel like a burden every single day.
As you are describing the strategy of small moments, that is hardly more than harm reduction of capitalism. Which, see, I am not rejecting it. You bend or break when the structure will not bend. But you are negotiating with a system that has already made its mind up how much of your life it is going to have

One phrase in particular, "find a job you love," did a lot of harm. It made people believe that low wages should be subsidized with passion. The game developers, journalists, non profit workers, they are all paid less precisely because employers know that they love it. The product is the passion and you are the factory and the consumer

We are creating more per worker than we ever have at any point in history and yet we are somehow working harder to keep up with less effort than our parents had. That's not natural law. That's distribution. The generation of your grandfather struggled to have the 40-hour week, weekends, pensions. We received pizza parties and the gig economy. And now we are told to get a sense out of the pauses between fatigue?

The cycle does not break within itself. It breaks when enough people say no more to "this is just how it is" as an answer

 
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November 06, 2025, 07:36:02 PM
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It is a 2 way thing.  It is only the living that has the ability live and survive. And how do you survive? It is by working to make ends meet. 
But we must also put into consithat the human needs are insatiable and they keep rising and increasing daily but that doesn't mean you have you have to work to ensure that all of these needs are net. Its impossible and the moment you try more you might end up loosing yourself. So in the spirit of having the notion that only the living can work, donot over work yourself to loosing your life.

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November 06, 2025, 08:00:51 PM
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It is a 2 way thing.  It is only the living that has the ability live and survive. And how do you survive? It is by working to make ends meet. 
But we must also put into consithat the human needs are insatiable and they keep rising and increasing daily but that doesn't mean you have you have to work to ensure that all of these needs are net. Its impossible and the moment you try more you might end up loosing yourself. So in the spirit of having the notion that only the living can work, donot over work yourself to loosing your life.

That's the reality of life. As a working man, every time you get a promotion that would increase your income, your spending also increases. So, there goes a saying that there is no amount of money that would satisfy a man's need. Even millionaires have their own needs and wants that they cannot afford.
Some people are only working to survive because overworking doesn't make any sense if your body and your sanity are on the line. Not all people are capable of handling stress, anxiety, and frustrations. A few may have succeeded in reaching their goal, but the majority are just living normally to survive.

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November 06, 2025, 08:54:35 PM
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?


Maybe people watch too many movies where the stars live in la la land or the constant media that surrounds us that just gather the glimpses of life outside of work, looking like a fairytale. The fact for most people is we simply need to work in order to sustain a basic lifestyle, most people have rent or a mortgage to pay which is a fair chunk of money each month that would be almost impossible to cover unless you have an income. Enjoying your job can sometimes come secondary in order to keep a roof over your head and food in the fridge. Things are getting more expensive as well so you definitely need to stay creative with your spending, always watching costs and try to keep luxuries to a minimum if you are low on funds.

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November 07, 2025, 09:36:38 AM
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The goal was to work to live a better life but now the economy has taken a different turn...people who used to be okay with what they are earning are now complaining because it doesn't seem to be enough, this is how bad the economy has gotten...we aren't living to work either that's the reason why we must work on becoming self employed so we don't waste your valuable time working for someone forever.
That was actually the Main goal for every humans, because we all work to live a good life but due to how bad the economy is now people are not well okay with the one they're getting. To be honest this economy is not friendly to us because no matter how you struggling it will still not be enough, but when you work hard and get a self employed it will be somewhat different than depending on someone else.

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November 07, 2025, 09:37:07 AM
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Although this idea seems very strange, basically we work to survive and we have to manage our lives by working. In that case, we constantly work a lot to manage our daily lives just to survive. We work because of which we live, if we do not work, we will not get money and will not be able to buy any kind of food, without food a person will not be able to live for a very long time. Accordingly, we can say that basically we work to survive, so that we can manage our lives beautifully and do something good for the future. Of course, working is necessary for every person, it will reach the goal of achieving success in his daily life, so hard work is the birth of good luck.
Those born into wealth tend to have less to worry about because their lives are secure thanks to their parents' wealth. In other words, they are heirs. Meanwhile, those born into ordinary families must struggle to survive, and one way to do that is by working. I agree that we work to live, as I myself was not born into a wealthy family.
I believe that people who work every day solely to meet their own needs or even their families' will achieve success because such people are devoted, so success is likely to be theirs.

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November 07, 2025, 05:43:41 PM
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Well, if you think about it, I didn't have a girlfriend before, and maybe I really was content with less. But there's one thing. If you don't spend money here and now on urgent needs, like dental care, that doesn't mean it can go on forever. On the contrary. The longer you go without dental care, the worse it gets. I can put it off for a month or two, but then I'll have to get it treated and pay back the money. There's no escape from it. It's a necessary measure. And this applies to health, things and home appliances, and, of course, a smartphone. Life requires constant financial investment.

With people being charged for almost everything these days, it's hard to live without a source of income. Not even government financial assistance (welfare program, healthcare) helps. Inflation makes poor people poorer, while the rich get richer. Especially when it spirals out of control. The days where we used to live to work are over. Now we are working to live. Otherwise, our lifespan would be reduced.

That's the problem when banks and governments dictate the rules of the game. It's this reason why Satoshi created Bitcoin in the first place. Unfortunately, it hasn't been able to "fix the world". Fiat is still relevant. Maybe sometime in the future? One can only hope...

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November 07, 2025, 09:33:25 PM
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No matter the cause of living we are working to live so the essence of Us engaging in different work that fetch us money is for us to live a successful life and a healthy life without us being depending on anybody, that's not that inflation has taken all over the world that should not make us to Believe on something that we know that is not a writing so I believe that inflation will come and go and everything will normalize if there is a true government or a good governance in a country , if there is a good government there is a way that manage inflation and the cause of things will be reduced with immediate effect and every living will be happy because of cost of living has reduced

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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

We are in a life circle where there is a space between productivity and reward. Technology has build us to be more efficient more than any generation before existance but the reward doesn't return to the workers that  are creating it,
‎Instead it focuses on the shareholders, corporations and system that is created to help people to be dependent rather than be independent, making them depend on people for survival.
‎When you study the structure very well you will understand that it's all about keep spending, keep working, and keep borrowing, being financial freedom it has never been the goal of the system, that's the reason why debt and inflation serve as a kind of invisible cage.
‎So Bitcoin is against that structure, it has made us to understand that money should not be controlled, and devalued by anyone, it is of the  opinion that one is responsible for its value, owning  an asset that doesn't fail.
‎So when we are talking about working to live, this simply means that one spend their time and effort to build independence, through any skills that work for you not against you,been financially free doesn't mean how much money you make, is about having control over your time and effort.
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

We should work for life and make our lives meaningful, not just live to work. In other words, the goal should not only be to increase income, but to use that income to live a beautiful and secure life. The solution is to be aware of income and expenses, explore alternative sources of income, and live life meaningfully, not just for work. Therefore, our aim should be to work for life, not live for work.
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Actually if it were just about me I would prefer to live without working. i would be totally ok unless i was not suffer from hunger. Working probably wouldn’t be a matter for me. But my family is also part of this question. That’s why my answer to this question would be "I work to provide my family a good life"

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Actually if it were just about me I would prefer to live without working. i would be totally ok unless i was not suffer from hunger. Working probably wouldn’t be a matter for me. But my family is also part of this question. That’s why my answer to this question would be "I work to provide my family a good life"

This reminds me of the popular TV show "Breaking Bad" where Gus Fring tells Walter White that "...a man must provide". If you have a family, it's your responsibility of bringing food to the table. Even if things seem harsh at times. But if you're single with no kids, it would be best for you to stay as is.

The cost of living is simply too high right now. And things will only get worse. Assuming geopolitical tensions and economic uncertainty persist. It's hard to work to live these days. At least, you can "die" trying. Doing nothing exacerbates the problem. Let's hope for a swift resolution of the world's economic problems soon.

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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?


When you're stuck in the middle of it, it can be hard to see any other way to do things and for many it is a case of just breaking through to the other side. People can thrive off work, especially if it's in a field that they somewhat enjoy and it can actually give them motivation to get through the day - especially when they can test out new ideas all the time. If you're in a job you actually love then it stops feeling like a job at all. Everyone who isn't some how rich will have lots of bills to pay through their lifetime, so the sooner that you accept it and try to figure out how to grow your wealth, the easier it gets. You must have a source of income in order to pay for a roof over your head, food, utilities and other extra perks like owning a car.

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Everyone feels it, if you are weak then you will be oppressed by nature, we work for a living to keep our breath going but actually it's more than that if for example you want to live better but on condition that you have to struggle and work hard first such as working 2x longer than normal people, thinking harder to find opportunities and being consistent without getting tired.

In addition, you also have to maintain the value of your money so that it is not consumed by inflation and this is the reason why rich people always invest and do not waste money on something that is not important. Wink

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The search for financial well being ends up turning work into the main purpose of life. With the constant rise in the cost of food, education, housing, and basic services, money struggles become more and more common. That keeps us stuck in survival mode, and it’s easy to feel like we’re living just to work instead of working to live.
Whatever your current situation, everyone will undoubtedly continue working to live more comfortably. When the cost of living becomes prohibitive, there's no other option but to continue working smartly to increase our income. This eliminates the need to create the analogy of working to live or living to work. Essentially, when someone doesn't do anything in their life, they won't be able to find good things in life, because anything we desire requires effort. Therefore, there's no need to complain or feel like it's difficult to achieve anything. As long as we keep trying, the results will come, even if not as much as we desire.

 
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The search for financial well being ends up turning work into the main purpose of life. With the constant rise in the cost of food, education, housing, and basic services, money struggles become more and more common. That keeps us stuck in survival mode, and it’s easy to feel like we’re living just to work instead of working to live.
Whatever your current situation, everyone will undoubtedly continue working to live more comfortably. When the cost of living becomes prohibitive, there's no other option but to continue working smartly to increase our income. This eliminates the need to create the analogy of working to live or living to work. Essentially, when someone doesn't do anything in their life, they won't be able to find good things in life, because anything we desire requires effort. Therefore, there's no need to complain or feel like it's difficult to achieve anything. As long as we keep trying, the results will come, even if not as much as we desire.
This is why there must be self-effort, you have to work hard to achieve what you want, without hard work, nothing can be achieved. In any field, nowadays people's expenses have become more than their income, and this has become a natural problem. So we have to find other options to increase our income, a person who does not try to do anything, does not get good opportunities or positive changes in his life on his own. Positivity comes only through hard work, effort, patience and continuous work are essential to get what we want.

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In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?
Some people are willing to work overtime to cover their monthly expenses, but in reality, this doesn't allow them to live carefree. The global economy is currently in turmoil, and inflation is rampant, causing the prices of basic necessities to continue to rise. Many ordinary people are suffering financially, even though they work around the clock, but this doesn't bring any change or growth to their finances.
That's what happens when we live completely dependent on the government, leaving ordinary people with no way to escape the miserable cycle we're currently experiencing.
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.
We are busy working to meet our living expenses, while the currency we receive as salaries is losing value. In some cases, the price increases are so high that there is no balance between the amount of income we receive. This becomes even more difficult during times of inflation, as I see some basic necessities rising so much, and most people struggle to keep up. We spend more time working, but our salaries are still insufficient to meet our needs.

This isn't about differing standards of living; in general, almost everyone is feeling the impact of this problem. I am well aware of how people who own businesses are also struggling in a difficult economy, and how people who simply work for someone else. Finding a solution to this problem is almost impossible because we don't have a foundation for what actually needs to be addressed first.

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