You think holding make you a Bitcoiner?

[Agbamoni]

What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

I have not read any comment of someone here saying "holding Bitcoin only makes you a bitcoiner". I think you are misunderstanding their point of view when they speak of holding Bitcoin because not having Bitcoin in your wallet right now could be a big mistake. A mistake similar to not buying anyone when it first came out. People do not want to miss out of opportunities that will make them regret later in the future.

The people you talk about here, most of them are in paid campaigns. I am pretty sure they spend their Bitcoins. So yeah, they are not only holding but also making transactions with it.

[Marvell1]

Nobody has to prove anything to you or anyone else, that is part of the concept of the network, Freedom. Their keys, their coins. If you want to hold your coins, spend it, create a BTC faucet, day-trade with it, etc, that is up to you, the owner of the keys.

I am sick of people trying to tell others what they should do with their coins to achieve the social status of 'bitcoiner'. Who coined that title? And who determines what you have to do to attain it, you op?

The philosophy and core purpose of bitcoin is freedom, meaning people have the right to use it freely as they wish. There are no rules or regulations that require us to do this or that to be recognized as real bitcoin investors, or genuine bitcoiners.

But it's ridiculous when many people have the illusion that they are the center of the market, creating their own definitions and trying to impose them on others. Yeah, that was really tiring.


If I remember correctly, there was once a thread about who deserves to be called a bitcoin investor and who doesn't. They came up with the concept that only people who hold bitcoins for a long time and use non-custodial wallets are called bitcoin investors, the rest are not. And now we have a new concept of bitcoiner. LOL.

[AGogi2003]

Those who hold Bitcoin are Bitcoin holders, those who mine are miners, and those who trade are traders. I don't know who is actually called a Bitcoiner. Bitcoin is an investment currency. Those who can invest for a long time can do a lot of good things here, but those who cannot hold for a long time are very afraid of Bitcoin's volatility and lose a lot. But I am not aware of what the main job of Bitcoiners is. I have never heard anything about who is called this. Today I first encountered such a question that who can claim to be a Bitcoiner.

When you have the opportunity to buy Bitcoin he as come under your custody and you have control over your coin if you wish to invest for long term is fine you can hold and when the time comes to get profit you will surely get profit and if you wish to be making only transactions with it is still normal and you are still lover of bitcoin but is very hard that person is just using bitcoin as a transactions they are still making investment and some are trading it and all are Bitcoiner. You can do anything you like with your bitcoin because is yours and know one can collect your coin accept you didn't secure your wallet, and they probably scam you with it. Bitcoin is volatile and you can lose and still get profit in it depending on how you invest or trade with it. Anything have is own risk and if you can handle the risk you can get better profit in bitcoin when the price increases for the long term. Anything that make you hold Bitcoin for 4 to 5 years you are fully investor.

[davis196]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Does it really matter if the people are going to call themselves "Bitcoiners", "crypto bros" or "Bitcoin supporters"?
I can't even calculate how many Bitcoin transactions I've made in the past 10 years. I guess I'm a "Bitcoiner".
BTC HODLers are as important as the BTC traders, because HODLing is what keeps the price stable in times of price corrections and bear markets. BTC is volatile and the lack of Bitcoin HODLers would make it even more volatile. You don't want the Bitcoin price to be like a rollercoaster. Today the price is 110K, tomorrow it will be 50K, the other day the price will be 80K and so on...

[Zlantann]

What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Does being a gynaecologist make you an inferior doctor? No, you are still a qualified doctor who specialises in an area. Everyone who uses Bitcoin contributes to the ecosystem and can be called a Bitcoiner. If my country is experiencing inflation and I choose to use Bitcoin as a hedge to protect my fiat from depreciation, it doesn't make me a less Bitcoiner.  If I need to buy something and Bitcoin is ideal for such transactions, I would use it. But if using fiat is more convenient, that would be my choice. If my decision is to keep Bitcoin as a transgerational asset, wouldn't that disqualify me as a Bitcoiner? I don't think so.

[ASloveapg]

When we say Bitcoin, we only understand trading or long-term investment. Only trading or only holding Bitcoin can never be called a Bitcoiner. If I only trade or hold it for profit, then I am not applying the true purpose of Bitcoin correctly to my life. The true purpose of Bitcoin is that it gives us financial freedom, freedom from centralized systems, and the right to control our own money. And when we can understand these true purposes of Bitcoin and apply them to our lives, only then can we become a real Bitcoiner.

[Alone055]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners.

We can all anyone who buys and holds some Bitcoin, what's the problem with that? Besides, it's about buying in the first place, whether you send them back and forth after buying them, or keep them in your wallet for some time with intentions of getting profits, there is absolutely no harm in that.

They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit.

Well, even though it's true that Bitcoin wasn't created to become an investment asset, it was created to be a decentralized P2P payment method. But if the whole world is doing it, even industrialists and influential names, then why not? Also, only because I buy and hold some Bitcoin, it doesn't mean I won't use it apart from that, I can and will use it whenever I feel like it.

A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit.

Bitcoin is doing pretty well for itself despite what's happening and what people are doing with it, so I think there is nothing wrong in that.

So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin

Why can't someone with Bitcoin be called a Bitcoiner?

[Popkon6]

Bitcoin is independent and those who hold it are not interested enough to prove it to anyone. Because those who hold Bitcoin for a long time basically like privacy, so I am holding it in relation to long-term investments and following the DCA method. So it is more safe and secure, no one will give you a screenshot of the wallet, because you should definitely be careful in this regard. I think those who are keeping Bitcoin away should keep more Bitcoin away, I am definitely trying to hold more Bitcoin in the future. So I find it annoying to those who are trying to prove their Bitcoin holding.

[Makus]

Technically there's nothing wrong when someone that holds bitcoin call themselves bitcoiners. What does it take to be a bitcoiner? Well, you just need to show interest by investing and also gaining knowledge about it which is very important, this is basically everything it takes to be a bitcoiner, there's nothing more to it. Before someone hold Bitcoin for a long period of time that person must have taken his or her time to gain knowledge, this means that there's a level of interest. So what more does it take asides from these things that I made mention of.

[uche6215]

Op is just here to mislead people in the forum, and from what he said, he does not understand bitcoin. How can someone invest in bitcoin when he does not have knowledge of it? Someone that invest and hodling bitcoin is a bitcoiner and OP should not mislead people on this point. Someone that does not hold bitcoin but just like the innovation so he reads news about it and write good educative articles to tell people on bitcoin is also a bitcoiner. op should read some article in the internet.

Who Is a Bitcoiner?

A Bitcoiner is a person who actively engages in activities related to Bitcoin. This includes buying and HODLing Bitcoin. Bitcoiners are passionate about discussing the development of Bitcoin technologies, such as wallets, exchanges and other services. They may also be involved in writing and disseminating Bitcoin-related news, articles and research. In addition, some of them may also be miners working to maintain the Bitcoin network and verify transactions.

[shield132]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

I agree with this sentence. I've been saying that for years. Holding Bitcoin alone doesn't make you a Bitcoiner as well as praying in the church doesn't make you a Christian if you commit crimes when you go outside. A true Bitcoiner is someone who, most importantly, uses Bitcoin for buying things, who prioritises Bitcoin over cash and fiat.
Btw I have to admit that despite the fact that I've always advocating against holding and was always supporting massive Bitcoin usage for making transactions, today I think that holding and hodling matter a lot because governments, banks and other corporations want to collect as many Bitcoins as possible and we shouldn't help them succeed in this plan.

[abaeze]

No one is sitting around proving themselves to people as Bitcoiners. Everyone sees Bitcoin differently, some think Bitcoin is volatile but their economic freedom, some think Bitcoin is an investment assets, some think Bitcoin is limited only 21 million & has its own unique value, some think Bitcoin is a revolution for them. But whatever one thinks, Bitcoin has the power to do all the things mentioned above. So who will hold BTC, who will sell it, who will trade it, it is absolutely a person's personal freedom and this freedom has been brought by Satoshi Nakamoto through the decentralized technology called Bitcoin. Where people had less trust in fiat currency, there was control by banks, but Bitcoin does not have that control, that is, anyone can use it freely, anywhere, anytime, in any way. Bitcoin gives the ability to protect one's own security through technology. It is an economic revolution. So those who are involved in it are Bitcoiners.

[BIT-BENDER]

Not another post about Bitcoin, Bitcoiner and how and when to hold your Bitcoin.
Just a simple search and you will see lots of other threads inline with this your thread.
I recommend that this post should be more of a reply on those already made thread and not starting another spam hunters heaven thread.

[o48o]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

"True Bitcoiner" sounds lot like "no true Scotsman fallacy" and gatekeeping to me.

Are you a true bitcoiner if you aren't running a node, haven't contributed to the code, haven't gospel about it in everywhere or don't accept bitcoin as a payment? Who cares.

I don't care if someone calls themselves a bitcoiner even if they haven't ever even had a bitcoin wallet, i don't care if they are just a fan. "True Bitcoiner" doesn't mean anything and frankly it sounds cringe flexing.

[WhoYouCantKill]

That's a point that is fair enough. Owning a Bitcoin has not made you a Bitcoiner, what matters is participation and mindset. Being called a Bitcoiner is having understanding and living out the principles that it holds, self custody, decentralization, and making use of it as real money, rather than just investment.
Some people treat Bitcoin like a stock, though the real spirit behind Bitcoin is in making use of it, being supportive of the network, and believing in freedom financially. Holding is alright, yet real Bitcoiners don't just hold, they build, transact, and educate.

[GigaBit]

It is true that one cannot become a Bitcoiner just by holding. If one buys and holds Bitcoin, its price will increase and thus he will profit, but its real purpose is not just to hold it. Bitcoin is an important medium for transactions. It is a decentralized currency that a user can use with complete freedom. Bitcoin indicates that there is an alternative to the conventional financial system. Everyone, especially those who love Bitcoin, should come forward to use Bitcoin. While some can use Bitcoin, there are many who cannot use Bitcoin for various reasons. It is expected that these problems will be solved soon.

[Japinat]

First and foremost, you don’t just go straight holding your bitcoin because you want to, or because others are doing that. Of course, you will research first on why it’s the best investment until you end up getting knowledgeable, because it actually requires sufficient amount of knowledge prior to investment aside from having an amount that you can afford to lose.

With this kind of preparation, once you enter the risk investing into bitcoin, you also embrace being a bitcoiner yourself. You don’t just stop there, but you will keep monitoring bitcoin and its crypto market, and even those altcoins on the side. So I don’t see any reason why hodling itself isn’t a good means of being a bitcoiner.

[henmark]

If that's your definition, no problem. You're free to define a Bitcoiner however you want. The problem is when you impose your definition on others. They, too, have their own definition. Let them be.

What do you mean? The definition of a Bitcoin miner, if you are mining a Bitcoin? Or a Bitcoin hodler, if you are investing on Bitcoin? Or a Bitcoin trader, if you trading using Bitcoin? And so on... That is also correct but saying Bitcoiner is only more on the general side. I agree with your sentiment right there, but for me, what makes a Bitcoiner is when they are regularly obtaining a Bitcoin, preferably by using a faucet or through mining it.

Holding bitcoin makes anyone part of the movement and no one should be telling others to do something else to be part of bitcoin movements, miners and even traders are all part of this bitcoin movements, know this and know peace OP.

As long as an activity involves Bitcoin no matter what it is, then yeah that it makes you part of this movement or earns you a Bitcoiner title. Yeah that we shouldn't forced anyone else to get involved on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is not mandatory. It is only created as an alternative to fiats. It is only sad that some people are hard-headed or selfish enough. They think they can benefit more as an early Bitcoiner if they can refer a lot of newbies onto it.

[simonova]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Yes, blockchain is more that just holding and making gains with bitcoin. But the problem is majority is involved because of gains only. It is human nature. Everyone wants maximum possible profit in least time with least efforts. And bitcoin has offered that so far to people.

[reagansimms]

A person can only be called a Bitcoiner when he understands the philosophy and original purpose of Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency system. Today the Bitcoin community is increasingly broad and diverse, such as investors who see the potential for long term profits to using Bitcoin as a means of payment, but true Bitcoiners are those who understand and support the basic principles of Bitcoin, such as decentralization, transparency and security.

Actually, I don't really care whether I deserve to be called a Bitcoiner or not, what I care about is trying to maximize the potential of Bitcoin to achieve long-term profits. In my opinion, Bitcoiner aren't just about owning Bitcoin, but also understanding blockchain technology, its underlying economic principles, and the community that supports it. Once you've become part of the broader Bitcoin ecosystem and understand its true value, then you are worthy to be called a Bitcoiner.