You think holding make you a Bitcoiner?

[Antotena]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

What do you think they should be? You see that small Bitcoin you are talking about, people that once had 1 Bitcoin in their portfolio were not consider anything but today, 1 Bitcoin can change my life if I'm to spend that money where I'm staying today but of course the goal isn't to sell. If spend one Bitcoin today, it will not sustain me for years, probably one or two and then I'm broke again which is why people hold any amount they have whether it's 0.1, 0.2 or more, they just buy and continue to support their bag.

Don't think that money is what define a person as a Bitcoin, if that's the case then all of us here are  going to be consider as nothing, Micheal Saylor owned more than 3% of the Bitcoin supply and he is not even saying all this, now I wonder how many Bitcoin you are holding to be seeing people with less Bitcoin as no Bitcoiner, I don't even know what you mean, as long as we stand together, use Bitcoin together and support it inside the network and outside makes all of us a Bitcoiner.

[Catenaccio]

Don't think that money is what define a person as a Bitcoin, if that's the case then all of us here are  going to be consider as nothing, Micheal Saylor owned more than 3% of the Bitcoin supply and he is not even saying all this, now I wonder how many Bitcoin you are holding to be seeing people with less Bitcoin as no Bitcoiner, I don't even know what you mean, as long as we stand together, use Bitcoin together and support it inside the network and outside makes all of us a Bitcoiner.

I don't mind about what the others think about me. They can consider me as a Bitcoiner or not as a Bitcoiner, with me it's not important. I only care about my money, my investment management and how I secure my bitcoins well. These things decide whether I keep my bitcoin safely or I will have high risk of losing it to hackers. Then if I can have good knowledge about Bitcoin, strong belief in it, and diamond hands for holding my bitcoins, I know that I will have very good profit.

That's enough for me, and I don't care I am a Bitcoiner or not a Bitcoiner as well as how the others think about me.

[Royal Cap]

So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

Using Bitcoin for transactions is like using fiat currency, that's what Bitcoin is. But there is nothing wrong with those who only have Bitcoin as an investment asset.
It doesn't matter to me if I'm just considered an owner, not a user or a bitcoiner, because basically I personally can only be an owner, not a user, because I can't use Bitcoin other than holding and using Bitcoin as an investment.

I don't care what you mean by all that in defining it.
Just being able to use Bitcoin as an investment asset makes me happier than not having and knowing Bitcoin at all.

Actually, not all of people possess Bitcoin with the same aim and it is quite natural. Some of them keep it as an investment, some of them keep it as a usage. In that way, it is a stretch to mention that by owning it, you become a Bitcoiner. Bitcoiner suggests a different kind of mentality, in my opinion. The owners are those who merely believe that the price will rise whereas the Bitcoiners, users or those who understand the idea and apply or endorse it are users. That does not imply that the owners are wrong though not everybody can be engaged in an equivalent manner. Others are satisfied with keeping it in their hands, but others also use it in making transactions.

As you say, you feel comfortable holding it as an investment, that is right for you. There is no need to worry about what labels others are giving. In the end, you see the benefit that you know and keep, what more is needed.

[Mhassan38]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

You said a lot though I was reading about nod and how it works I can say thats exactly what you are referring to because those are the drivers of transactions in the bitcoin world but nevertheless you can still just buy and hold it’s not a big deal not everyone must do what every other person is doing.

[uche6215]

You said a lot though I was reading about nod and how it works I can say thats exactly what you are referring to because those are the drivers of transactions in the bitcoin world but nevertheless you can still just buy and hold it’s not a big deal not everyone must do what every other person is doing.

Not everybody has the knowledge on Blockchain, and the technical part of Bitcoin so those who are not good in that side of bitcoin can just use their money to invest in bitcoin and became bitcoiner. Those who teaches bitcoin to others are also bitcoiners. So someone can becomes a bitcoiner from many ways and not only investment or mining or others. Satoshi Nakamoto made it for all categories to use bitcoin.

[Son Of Blockchain (SOB)]

 I can't believe the OP is suggesting that people should sell something that's developed into a store of value, i hope he understands what he's trying to say because holding Bitcoin alone shows that's you've joined the movement and you're qualified to be called a Bitcoiner, maybe that's his own ideology of what a Bitcoiner is but I'll never support selling cheap all in the name of carrying out a transaction with Bitcoin.
 Yes the main purpose of Bitcoin creation wasn't solely to be used as a store of value but if Satoshi didn't want that he wouldn't had made it scarce by creating just 21 million of it and also non recreateable in excess like fiat. So OP please retrace your statement or advise.

[Tungbulu]

You said a lot though I was reading about nod and how it works I can say thats exactly what you are referring to because those are the drivers of transactions in the bitcoin world but nevertheless you can still just buy and hold it’s not a big deal not everyone must do what every other person is doing.

Sure, not everyone is concerned with how the node works or what it does, they’d rather just buy and hold, and they do that without necessarily having to run their own node. But the truth is that those who actually take their time to learn more about how the network actually works, it helps them build more confidence, reduces the level of misinformation and also aids them in making way more smarter decisions.  But that doesn’t mean that does who only invest are not on the right path, they are, just that the latter helps strengthen your understanding and position in the technology you’re using and relying on.

[reefsea]

What I can conclude when talking about the term bitcoiner is those who are involved in bitcoin-related activities.
Buying, holding and selling is an activity that occurs in bitcoin and it has become a classification in the end because we have that activity and it is directly related to bitcoin so why can't we make it a reason that we are a bitcoiner?

Transacting can be a good thing but as long as we use bitcoin even if we do some transactions using bitcoin as legal tender it is very good but this classification is another part for me.
The function of bitcoin from the beginning was intended for transactions but over time its purpose has become more complex including investment. So why are we only fixated on more frequent transactions to be said to be a bitcoiner?

[Kasabus]

Isn't it? Because you won't be buying and holding bitcoin if you don't have faith on it, if you don't know bitcoin well. Being a bitcoiner does not limit only using bitcoin as a means of payment, it's way more than that. Being a bitcoiner is a believer of bitcoin itself, and because you believe into bitcoin, you take the risk to invest. That's why if you think it deeply, taking risk is not that easy because you'll never know what's the future outcome, and I have to say that's the real bitcoiner, trusting without guarantees, rather than spending your bitcoin alone just for promotion.

[livingfree]

You said a lot though I was reading about nod and how it works I can say thats exactly what you are referring to because those are the drivers of transactions in the bitcoin world

Running nods is like that you're just there to support the network without anything in return, so it's mostly about passion.

There are the miners that are confirming transactions, mining the blocks and also helping to secure the network, blockchain of Bitcoin.

but nevertheless you can still just buy and hold it’s not a big deal not everyone must do what every other person is doing.

Yup, it's not a big deal if you are in it just to hold after buying.

No one cares what you do in contribution but you sure will be recognized for the contributions you'll do in the community and in the network.

[Orpichukwu]

Allow everyone to be what they want to be. Bitcoin was created for us all, and lovers of Bitcoin are all Bitcoiners; a holder is a Bitcoiner, so is a trader and people who help the network too by running their own node, so you don't have to make some set of people feel less of what they are in Bitcoin terms. That's what freedom is: you are free to decide how you should be addressed and how your coin should be treated.

[PX-Z]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin,
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What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing.

That's your own definition and don't force it to anyone else. There's no even right definition of "bitcoiner" and it shouldn't be just like what you mentioned. Holding, trading, doing transactions, having nodes, making tools for bitcoin, anything that interact bitcoin can be considered "bitcoiner" on their very own way.

[martinex]

If buying and holding bitcoin doesn’t make you a bitcoiners, what else makes you a bitcoiner, because when you are buying and holding bitcoin that is what really shows that you are a holder of bitcoin, and when you mostly buy bitcoin on a regular and consistent basis, I have been buying bitcoin for 4 years now and holding bitcoin have been my priority and my most valuable assets that I have right now, buying bitcoin equivalently makes you and investor and Bitcoin is an investment, and everyone can’t afford to participate as a Bitcoin holder in different ways because everyone doesn’t have opportunities for that, and some folks are from different countries where Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are illegal.

Someone who buys and sells BTC can also be considered a Bitcoiner, but their behavior still involves exploiting market volatility. If they receive positive signals and news, they will naturally hold. Who doesn't want to see their assets continue to rise? Of course, everyone wants that, but the patterns and behaviors are different. If someone sells BTC and buys new altcoins, they're being fickle and not a true Bitcoiner. The true one only chooses one option and doesn't like many choices.

[Nothingtodo]

If I have some Bitcoin in my wallet, I would consider myself a Bitcoiner. But in the real sense, Bitcoiners are not those who hold Bitcoin, but only those who follow the main purpose of Bitcoin. Even though I have Bitcoin, I am not a Bitcoiner. Because I only hold Bitcoin in my wallet for profit. Bitcoiner refers to all those Bitcoin holders who will clearly keep themselves as holders in any position in the market and will never show their fearful situation in the market. For example, Michael Saylor will not sell the Bitcoin in his wallet no matter how bad the market situation is, that is, the bad situation in the market will not affect him.

[RockBell]

What I can conclude when talking about the term bitcoiner is those who are involved in bitcoin-related activities.
Buying, holding and selling is an activity that occurs in bitcoin and it has become a classification in the end because we have that activity and it is directly related to bitcoin so why can't we make it a reason that we are a bitcoiner?

That is just a simple analogy made by you, when you are talking about bitcoiner you have to be involved in bitcoin-related activities it's either going to be holding or trading. The word bitcoiner shows that the party is involved in bitcoin, the moment the association is no longer there then I don't think the person should be called a bitcoiner again so the world bitcoiner is actually means involvement nothing more nothing less.

Transacting can be a good thing but as long as we use bitcoin even if we do some transactions using bitcoin as legal tender it is very good but this classification is another part for me.
The function of bitcoin from the beginning was intended for transactions but over time its purpose has become more complex including investment. So why are we only fixated on more frequent transactions to be said to be a bitcoiner?

The case of using it as a legal tender is a matter of choice because is not everyone that will want to spend there bitcoin and personally I don't think I have intention of spending bitcoin I will rather pay in other currencies that is if they will accept than spend my asset, and some people do it out of social experiment. While some people spend it because they want to spend it. It is more explanatory than it's complexity, all what they need to do is to understand the whole process.

[Pauldesaints]

If anyone buying and holding Bitcoins are not a bitconer,who is a bitconer then?.explain to the public so that others will learn
Because me I don't understand.please explain to us to enable us grab the difference between Bitcoin users and a bitconer.

[HONDACD125]

In my opinion, Bitcoin's main value is its decentralization. Bitcoin's decentralization consists of three components: decentralized mining, decentralized mining, and decentralized storage.

I don't mine Bitcoin because, given the current hashrate, only large industrial enterprises can do so. I'm talking about enterprises with access to cheap electricity and a large number of modern ASIC miners.

I'm also not a Bitcoin developer (I lack the intelligence and technical knowledge for such work 🤷).

However, I do store some satoshi, and I do so in a decentralized manner (using cold wallets). Thus, I contribute to Bitcoin's development to a certain extent...

I also actively participate in at least two cryptocurrency forums. So, to a certain extent, I could be considered a Bitcoin evangelist.  I'm telling newbies (meaning people who know less about it than I do) about the world's first cryptocurrency. 💫 That's how I contribute to the greater good. 🙂

We don't even have to explain ourselves or prove that we are or have ever contributed in Bitcoin's development at any stage since it has been created. We don't need to do that, if we use it, whether we do that by buying and holding or trading it in the markets, we are basically playing a part in its development and lifecycle, and we don't need to prove that to anyone. What's enough for us is to be a part of this movement, and that's it. Those who are away from Bitcoin and this market as a whole are missing out on a lot of things, and they will regret this in the future, for sure.

For those of us who are a part of this world or have been a part of it for some time now, we should be proud and happy that we got this privilege, because those who will become a part of it in the future will realize that we have lived through that they have missed, just like how we regret not being a part of it in the initial days, for those people in the future, these will be initial days.

[Scarlett_23]

It really funny when some folks here think they are Bitcoiners just because they hold some amount of Bitcoin, anyone can buy and hold Bitcoin, thats what so many folks are practicing then they claim to be Bitcoiners. They fail to understand that Bitcoin was not just meant to be an investment, that's what many here think that Bitcoin is just an investment tool for just making profit. A true Bitcoiner doesn't just sit there with Bitcoin sleeping in your account, you need to be part of a certain movement, an action, not just about profit. How many transactions have you made in Bitcoin, how do you engage in Bitcoin beyond price and profit. You need to ask yourself this question (Am I a user or a Bitcoiner)
So my point here is that owning Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you a Bitcoiner, it just makes you someone with Bitcoin, and that's just ...uhmm I don't know, how do you feel if you realized your just a user.
What truly defines you as a Bitcoiner isnt holding, it's the doing. No big deal

In fact, it is not known what the universally accepted definition will be. However, I think that those who are investing in Bitcoin, those who are trading Bitcoin and those who are mining are all involved with Bitcoin. Those who invest in Bitcoin are investors, those who trade are traders and those who mine are usually technologists. Each of them works with Bitcoin for different purposes. They all play a role in making Bitcoin diverse and strong. So I think no one is more important than anyone. Traders have to trade with a lot of risk and research, while investors have to invest with patience and consistency. So I think everyone who is connected to this block chain technology of Bitcoin is a Bitcoiner.

[Yamifoud]

From my own perspective, a bitcoiner is someone who knows well about bitcoin and how its market moves. A bitcoiner is someone who utilizes bitcoin well, regardless if its for investment or payment method. So if one is buying and eventually try to hold them, that's a perfect example that he has great faith on bitcoin, that he is proud to be a bitcoiner by taking some risk without certain guarantees how far the investment goes.

Being a bitcoiner sets no limits when it comes to bitcoin, as long as he is using bitcoin in a positive way, then literally he is indeed a bitcoiner.

[Swordsoffreedom]

If anyone buying and holding Bitcoins are not a bitconer,who is a bitconer then?.explain to the public so that others will learn
Because me I don't understand.please explain to us to enable us grab the difference between Bitcoin users and a bitconer.

Bitcoin represents freedom, and people can use it in any way they find appropriate, as long as it doesn't break the law or harm others.

But some users consider themselves more knowledgeable about bitcoin than anyone else and they come up with their own concept of bitcoin. That's not wrong because bitcoin is freedom, but the funny thing is they want to impose that thinking on others. Anyone who doesn't think like them and doesn't use bitcoin for the same purposes as they do will not be considered a Bitcoiner by them. So spending time listening to them explain is pointless if you and they don't use bitcoin for the same purpose.