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[Awaklara]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

[hd49728]

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

With different capital size, small and big, the capital management strategies can be different too. Like with a small capital, I can afford to lose it while it does not harm my finance. Oppositely with big capital, I can not afford to lose it and I must have a more careful and safer management strategy for it.

With money funded into accounts on casinos or even centralized exchanges, if it is big for me, I would like to finish KYC before funding my accounts. With a KYC account, I feel safer with less risk of losing my money or just a bit of stress and headach if my account is frozen and there is a request of KYC. KYC first can help me avoiding these situations and risks, and make me feel safer and more comfortable.

[Zoomic]

If you did not cut part of the post, we would have gotten the full message of Mandoy. If the casino decides to block their restricted areas, days does not prevent some users to access the platform with VPN or tor browser. I agree with you that blocking the restricted area is good but that also will not prevent users to access the platform.

Thank you for pointing this out. I just checked the part I quoted, and indeed I mistakenly cut off part of the relevant content. I will edit my post so it becomes more relevant and easier to understand the context. Sorry about that but the good thing is that you can always click on the quoted text to read the full post.
I always trim the irrelevant parts of the posts I’m responding to and I’m using my mobile to do so, so mistakes can happen. Sorry again!
previous post edited.

I quite understood you and I have read the edited post again. Most times it's difficult to post and edit with a mobile phone. All is cool now.

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

The interest of most gamblers is to quickly enrol and take advantage of some welcome bonuses. So, they normally do not have the patience to read the lengthy ToS where some salient points are hidden.

[lionheart78]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

Aside from reading the ToS, if there is an unclear clause for the player, they must contact the support staff.  Many of us, gamblers, are so shy about contacting the support staff.  We often assume things rather than verify things and ask questions.  At the end, it is often that our assumption is wrong, leading to misunderstanding and issues.

So if someone has questions or an uncleared understanding of the ToS, they must contact the support staff and ask questions before depositing any amount of money.  This way, gamblers can avoid unnecessary experience due to false assumption and misunderstanding.

[Questat]

So if someone has questions or an uncleared understanding of the ToS, they must contact the support staff and ask questions before depositing any amount of money.  This way, gamblers can avoid unnecessary experience due to false assumption and misunderstanding.

Yeah, and if they later deny it, at least there’s a conversation they can show as proof that everything was clearly stated by support and that they acted in accordance with the casino’s TOS. Communication really matters here, because making assumptions is never an advantage for us as gamblers. Casinos will always have the upper hand since it’s their TOS, and they know exactly how to enforce it.

[Smack That Ace]

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

[liuka]

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

Did you read the terms and conditions at the casino? As I read it, there is no mention of having to complete a 5x rollover where you may not have met the initial deposit wagering requirement.

I don't think this casino has this rule either, because looking at the withdrawal clause of the Tos.

[gunhell16]

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

I haven't experienced withdrawing from 2UP yet because, honestly, I usually end up losing when I play there lately. Other players might not be aware that there’s a 5x times rollover requirement before they can actually complete a withdrawal transaction.

For high rollers, reaching that limit is easy, but for casual players like me, it's quite a challenge. Since I only play occasionally and have a limited budget, a 5× rollover is still a significant amount to clear.

[UmerIdrees]

I haven't experienced withdrawing from 2UP yet because, honestly, I usually end up losing when I play there lately. Other players might not be aware that there’s a 5x times rollover requirement before they can actually complete a withdrawal transaction.

For high rollers, reaching that limit is easy, but for casual players like me, it's quite a challenge. Since I only play occasionally and have a limited budget, a 5× rollover is still a significant amount to clear.

Indeed, this rollover requirement is beyond my understanding. Maybe this is the price you have to pay to play on a Non-KYC casino 

I understand that casino requires high wagering requirements for the bonuses they offer, but for normal deposits, they will allow withdrawals after a 1X rollover. That 1X is also because the casino does not want people to deposit and then withdraw without gambling (as then the intention could be money laundering, etc).

[reagansimms]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

Some gamblers who want to try a new casino may overlook the most important part such as reading the terms and conditions. They tend to make small deposits to try out the casino atmosphere and games, and if they feel comfortable, they may increase their deposit amount to play with bigger bets. Personally, I would not miss this important point, the terms and conditions need to be read thoroughly because I think it is very important to understand the rules of the game, how to get bonuses (if available), betting limits and withdrawals as set.

[yudi09]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

Making a large deposit without any casino experience is not a wise move. It is reasonable to make a small deposit to the casino to see how comfortable you feel before making a large deposit once you are familiar with all the terms and conditions.
Making a large deposit without considering all aspects related to comfort, security, and terms and conditions is too hasty.

[maydna]

~snip~

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

If that is the case, they must still make sure the TOS and read it. It is no problem if they test the casino by deposit small amount before they deposit big amount. But reading TOS is a must so they can avoid the thing that can make them into trouble.

Sometime I am doing the same as them but the different is I never deposit big amount, more than I can afford. Sometime I read the TOS but if laziness comes to me, I will not read TOS in short time.

[Questat]

But reading TOS is a must so they can avoid the thing that can make them into trouble.

You mentioned this before, but am I understanding it right that you’re only treating it as advice and not something you actually do yourself?
No offense meant, I’d honestly salute you if you really read the TOS, because in reality, probably 90% of gamblers, at least based on my own guess, don’t read it at all.

Sometime I am doing the same as them but the different is I never deposit big amount, more than I can afford. Sometime I read the TOS but if laziness comes to me, I will not read TOS in short time.

Hmm… so have you actually read the full TOS of any casino you’re playing on? 

[pusaka]

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

Making a large deposit without any casino experience is not a wise move. It is reasonable to make a small deposit to the casino to see how comfortable you feel before making a large deposit once you are familiar with all the terms and conditions.
Making a large deposit without considering all aspects related to comfort, security, and terms and conditions is too hasty.

I think everyone who gambles does this, they will deposit a small amount when they want to try a new casino, once things are going well then they will slowly increase the deposit amount. But it's still very important to bring the ToS first even if we make a small deposit.

There is still a risk if you don't have the ToS with you and usually the problem comes when someone doesn't read the ToS thoroughly. While the rules of every casino may be similar, sometimes there are small things that make a difference, so we have to be careful with them to prevent problems in the future.

[Negotiation]

~snip~

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

If that is the case, they must still make sure the TOS and read it. It is no problem if they test the casino by deposit small amount before they deposit big amount. But reading TOS is a must so they can avoid the thing that can make them into trouble.

Sometime I am doing the same as them but the different is I never deposit big amount, more than I can afford. Sometime I read the TOS but if laziness comes to me, I will not read TOS in short time.

Your thinking is very realistic and responsible, especially not depositing more money than you can afford. This is the most important thing in online casinos or any kind of financial transaction when you don't want to read the TOS due to laziness, you can follow this method to protect yourself, which can save you from big problems in the future by spending a little time reading the TOS. If you deposit 100 taka and get a bonus, it is written here money you have to play before withdrawing it. Also if you play with a small amount even if you lose it will not affect your daily life which is the key to responsible gaming.

[freedomgo]

While the rules of every casino may be similar, sometimes there are small things that make a difference, so we have to be careful with them to prevent problems in the future.

Like what, for example?

I’m probably one of the many who don’t really read the TOS. I always thought that if casinos are licensed by the same provider, their TOS would more or less follow the same standards, so I didn’t bother. I assumed most of it was just about KYC and age requirements, like being 18+ or 21+.

But honestly, even if you do read the TOS, there are still rules where your interpretation can be different from the casino’s.
And in the end, their interpretation is what matters.

[hd49728]

I’m probably one of the many who don’t really read the TOS. I always thought that if casinos are licensed by the same provider, their TOS would more or less follow the same standards, so I didn’t bother. I assumed most of it was just about KYC and age requirements, like being 18+ or 21+.

You don't have to read the full ToS and I am doubtful that there are people who spend to read all ToS of any company. It's only important to scan ToS and find what is important for your account and money. By scanning, searching, you can read more and more if necesssary, otherwise you can stop with searching and scanning which is enough for basic and most important terms.

But honestly, even if you do read the TOS, there are still rules where your interpretation can be different from the casino’s.
And in the end, their interpretation is what matters.

That's true but by reading you can ask for customer support about terms you are unclear. It's still very better than don't know about any terms, the vague terms and take very high risk for your account and money.

ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?

[freedomgo]

It's only important to scan ToS and find what is important for your account and money.

What if there are other important things I should know but I miss them simply because I never thought about them in the first place?
That’s really the risk of not reading everything, so reading all of it would probably help avoid that.

That said, I’ll be honest, I still don’t read everything. I’m lazy about it, and it doesn’t feel that important to me since I’m not a bettor who puts in huge amounts anyway.

ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?

Thanks for this, but I suggest you update it since that was more than 5 years ago.

[impulse709]

~snip~

If someone really plans to make a large deposit at a casino they have just seen and have finished creating an account, it is indeed important to read the terms and conditions thoroughly. But most gamblers make small deposits to try out a casino they have just become familiar with, trying out the games and some features first. If it feels safe, the gambler can increase the deposit to play with larger amounts. When everything goes smoothly, that is what makes gamblers neglect reading the full terms and conditions set by the casino.

If that is the case, they must still make sure the TOS and read it. It is no problem if they test the casino by deposit small amount before they deposit big amount. But reading TOS is a must so they can avoid the thing that can make them into trouble.

Sometime I am doing the same as them but the different is I never deposit big amount, more than I can afford. Sometime I read the TOS but if laziness comes to me, I will not read TOS in short time.

Your thinking is very realistic and responsible, especially not depositing more money than you can afford. This is the most important thing in online casinos or any kind of financial transaction when you don't want to read the TOS due to laziness, you can follow this method to protect yourself, which can save you from big problems in the future by spending a little time reading the TOS. If you deposit 100 taka and get a bonus, it is written here money you have to play before withdrawing it. Also if you play with a small amount even if you lose it will not affect your daily life which is the key to responsible gaming.

The easy method to begin with a small deposit will help to test reliability of a new casino, games and the process of withdrawing without having to take huge risks. A lot of players overlook the entire TOS because they are lazy, or because it has already happened to them, yet this may cause issues, particularly in bonuses and betting requirements. Responsible gambling does not only imply making a deposit in which you can afford to lose it, but a further important aspect is to know about major rules. Even a glance at the key terms will save one the hassle in future.

[2UP.io]

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

Guys if you want to deposit at 2up.io, then definitely read their terms and conditions carefully and make the deposit.

I made a deposit here a few months ago because I saw that KYC is not required here. After seeing many of their posts about KYC, I thought that since they have relaxed the KYC requirements according to the user in the forum, maybe I can gamble here peacefully. Thinking of this, I made a deposit and kept playing. But today, when I made a withdrawal, I saw that the withdrawal was not happening; it was pending for some time, and then it was canceled

Later, after reading the terms and conditions, I realized that if you make a deposit, this deposit requires x5 rollover before withdrawal is allowed. If I talk about other casinos, I play at Rainbet. There is no such rollover rule here; you can make a hassle free deposit and withdraw, no rollover is required.

Regards,
Duke

I haven't experienced withdrawing from 2UP yet because, honestly, I usually end up losing when I play there lately. Other players might not be aware that there’s a 5x times rollover requirement before they can actually complete a withdrawal transaction.

For high rollers, reaching that limit is easy, but for casual players like me, it's quite a challenge. Since I only play occasionally and have a limited budget, a 5× rollover is still a significant amount to clear.

All the rules are here in the help centre.

5x basic rollover is required on your deposit IF you want to withdraw money from no deposit bonus out AND you have NEVER EVER made a deposit before.

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

So for example, under a promotion you get 20$, you played or you didn't play (depending on if there is rollover for the bonus) and lets say you now have 30$. You want to withdraw this 30$ freebie. You need to deposit 30$ and that 30$ needs to go through 5x basic rollover.

It is essentially depositing money and clearing 5x on 4% which is 20% edge to get back more of your money to demonstrate that you are a real player and willing to deposit.

This 5x can easily be abused because out of 100 players that get no deposit bonuses there will inevitable be some that have money left after playing eg 50 players, suppose these 50 players all have 20$ each, they will deposit 20$ and be required to wager 100$ to be able to withdraw. Simple calculation 100$ x 4% (edge) = 4$ theoretical loss, but the player can withdraw 36$ theoretically. So it is like paying 20$ to extract out 36$. There is of course risk, you could lose it all or win more but we are talking theoretical long term things. For casino this is negative value but its a promo. If we don't set these rules then we will not be able to offer anything to real players because we just get super abused. When we put limits in place we hope that these 20$ no deposit bonuses arrive at real players hands to experience the site, simple as that. Its a good deal to deposit the same amount and rollover 5x. Under normal FTD welcome bonus on stake shuffle rainbet or any other site including 2UP, you can expect 35x to 40x rollover on deposit + bonus with a plethora of restrictions.

So if you required to wager 5x for a deposit to extract a no deposit bonus this is really good risk and good deal to take. We allow the abuse because it is limited and controlled and not open to everyone but if you don't like the 5x rollover to get your no deposit bonus out then simply don't deposit and play with your bonus money for fun, imagine you make it to 1K, would you deposit 1K and wager 5x to be able to withdraw? It is up to you.


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On the other hand:

If you make a NORMAL deposit using crypto, the basic rollover is 1x on 4% edge. The rules are here:

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/12707779-basic-rollover

So for example, you deposit 20$, you spin a 4% slots, you need to wager 20$ before you can withdraw. If you wager on a 1% original game you need to wager 80$ before you can withdraw.

If you deposit Fiat you can check the fiat multipliers because fiat is very expensive and problematic (usually don't apply to people here)

https://help.2up.org/en/articles/11462493-supported-fiat-currencies