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[Pmalek]

It would honestly be better if access was fully blocked to avoid any confusion.

It would, but for a normal and good-intentioned player, a notification, informing them that they can't play there is enough. A cheater and rule-breaker who wants to play won't be stopped by such geo blocks as you experienced on DraftKings. They will just bypass it by using a VPN from a location that is allowed, hoping they won't be caught. So even if you put such blocks in place, they prevent absolutely nothing if you want to cheat. 

[Davidvictorson]

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So if all casinso would have something like that, problem will be avoided.
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Yes it would have been but cheaters would always cheat and you know what they are so innovative at that. Some of the online casinos don’t have the time to put up these error messages. Cheaters always think they can bypass the system and they are usually the first to call a casino scam when they eventually get caught. So unless there is a regulation to have this message pop up, the casino just once it is in already somewhere on the website don’t owe it to players to put it up repeatedly.

[gunhell16]

Yes it would have been but cheaters would always cheat and you know what they are so innovative at that. Some of the online casinos don’t have the time to put up these error messages. Cheaters always think they can bypass the system and they are usually the first to call a casino scam when they eventually get caught. So unless there is a regulation to have this message pop up, the casino just once it is in already somewhere on the website don’t owe it to players to put it up repeatedly.

I agree. Malicious actors are constantly looking for vulnerabilities to exploit within casino platforms. However, most established casinos are well-aware
of these tactics, which explains why reports of successful security breaches are so rare.

Exploitation usually only happens when there's a significant flaw in the firewall or system architecture, allowing hackers to introduce bugs
or bypass security protocols.

[khaled0111]

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Well, that’s a good analogy Pmalek, but I don’t think it applies here. I get your point, but in this case the casino can simply deny users access to their website (which is technically possible and is easy to do). But in your example (road traffic), there is no way for police officers (or whatever) to force drivers to reduce their speed (technically it’s just not possible), so they just put warning signs.
I hope you got my point!

[Perfectbaby]

If you are talking about users from restricted countries, then the casino should not allow them to access their website completely and not only display a warning or a notification message. But, that’s just my opinion!

I think the notification message is enough if done correctly. It should display a warning that the person is accessing the casino from a banned territory and that they are not allowed to play there. If they decide to ignore it and proceed, they should be responsible for the consequences of their actions.

I look at that the same way I look at speed limits on the road. They tell you how fast you are allowed to drive, and they serve as a warning not to drive faster than that. If you ignore them and do what you want, don't be surprised if you get pulled over by the police or get a speeding ticket in your mailbox in the near future.

However, before a user should be able to login to their gambling account the casino always gives a warning messages that this casino is not permitted to operate in your country. Sometimes you won't be allowed to login to the casino due to the restrictions except that person login with VPN or tor where he would want to bye-cute the the restrictions without knowing that he could face another penalty while trying to access the site illegally.

[Mandoy]

If you are talking about users from restricted countries, then the casino should not allow them to access their website completely and not only display a warning or a notification message. But, that’s just my opinion!

I think the notification message is enough if done correctly. It should display a warning that the person is accessing the casino from a banned territory and that they are not allowed to play there. If they decide to ignore it and proceed, they should be responsible for the consequences of their actions.

I look at that the same way I look at speed limits on the road. They tell you how fast you are allowed to drive, and they serve as a warning not to drive faster than that. If you ignore them and do what you want, don't be surprised if you get pulled over by the police or get a speeding ticket in your mailbox in the near future.

However, before a user should be able to login to their gambling account the casino always gives a warning messages that this casino is not permitted to operate in your country. Sometimes you won't be allowed to login to the casino due to the restrictions except that person login with VPN or tor where he would want to bye-cute the the restrictions without knowing that he could face another penalty while trying to access the site illegally.

The warning message clearly before the user is allowed to log in is often sufficient as it will advise the users that the casino is not permitted in their country. When one chooses to disregard such a warning and proceed on, particularly with the aid of a VPN or Tor, he/she is entirely cognizant of the danger that they are about to get into. In this scenario, the user should be blamed as opposed to the casino because the rules were very clear since it was announced initially.

[Perfectbaby]

However, before a user should be able to login to their gambling account the casino always gives a warning messages that this casino is not permitted to operate in your country. Sometimes you won't be allowed to login to the casino due to the restrictions except that person login with VPN or tor where he would want to bye-cute the the restrictions without knowing that he could face another penalty while trying to access the site illegally.

The warning message clearly before the user is allowed to log in is often sufficient as it will advise the users that the casino is not permitted in their country. When one chooses to disregard such a warning and proceed on, particularly with the aid of a VPN or Tor, he/she is entirely cognizant of the danger that they are about to get into. In this scenario, the user should be blamed as opposed to the casino because the rules were very clear since it was announced initially.

Of course and whatever amount that is being funded on the gambling site can't be withdrawable as the casino would also restrict them from having back their access to their funds if they check through the authorized country and notice it was a limited and restricted zone then their deposit could be voided. At least there is need to always the permitted zone and region before making use of the gambling site.

[hd49728]

Of course and whatever amount that is being funded on the gambling site can't be withdrawable as the casino would also restrict them from having back their access to their funds if they check through the authorized country and notice it was a limited and restricted zone then their deposit could be voided. At least there is need to always the permitted zone and region before making use of the gambling site.

It is generally true before and during time of using any platform, service by reading FAQ and ToS of any company. At least, do your quick skimming and scanning for finding most important terms for your account and fund, that does not take too much time.

Several years ago, I created my topic ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?. I wanted to give people a reminder about importance of this practice that is still meaningful in 2026.

Spending some time for this important step can help you have less headache and more comfortable experience on any platform with your money funded there.

[Akbarkoe]

Of course and whatever amount that is being funded on the gambling site can't be withdrawable as the casino would also restrict them from having back their access to their funds if they check through the authorized country and notice it was a limited and restricted zone then their deposit could be voided. At least there is need to always the permitted zone and region before making use of the gambling site.

It is generally true before and during time of using any platform, service by reading FAQ and ToS of any company. At least, do your quick skimming and scanning for finding most important terms for your account and fund, that does not take too much time.

Several years ago, I created my topic ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?. I wanted to give people a reminder about importance of this practice that is still meaningful in 2026.

Spending some time for this important step can help you have less headache and more comfortable experience on any platform with your money funded there.

Most people who experience problems with casinos in this case are those who have minimal literacy regarding the FAQ/ToS and immediately deposit, especially on casino platforms that do not require KYC before creating an account, without realizing that when making a withdrawal they have to do KYC and their KYC is rejected because they come from a country that is prohibited by the casino, and this is what usually becomes a problem, in contrast to casinos that require KYC at the beginning before making a deposit because users will know when their data is rejected directly by the casino before making a deposit.

As players who understand the rules, they must open the rules sheet at the casino before registering, and I hope that casinos that require KYC are also a good choice for them to require KYC at the beginning when their customers register.

[lionheart78]

Most people who experience problems with casinos in this case are those who have minimal literacy regarding the FAQ/ToS and immediately deposit, especially on casino platforms that do not require KYC before creating an account, without realizing that when making a withdrawal they have to do KYC and their KYC is rejected because they come from a country that is prohibited by the casino, and this is what usually becomes a problem, in contrast to casinos that require KYC at the beginning before making a deposit because users will know when their data is rejected directly by the casino before making a deposit.

True, the problem is with player who failed to check the ToS.  Sadly, most players who encounter this kind of problem are due to their lack of ToS knowledge blame the platform of cheating them when they have been at fault in the first place.

As players who understand the rules, they must open the rules sheet at the casino before registering, and I hope that casinos that require KYC are also a good choice for them to require KYC at the beginning when their customers register.

I highly agree, the player must be responsible for knowing the dos and don'ts of the gambling platform they are playing with.  Not only should they be knowledgeable about the requirements for withdrawal but also, but they must also be knowledgeable about the limitations of the gambling platform implementations, like the number of players allowed in one IP , the VPN, and other stuff.

[Questat]

Yes it would have been but cheaters would always cheat and you know what they are so innovative at that. Some of the online casinos don’t have the time to put up these error messages. Cheaters always think they can bypass the system and they are usually the first to call a casino scam when they eventually get caught. So unless there is a regulation to have this message pop up, the casino just once it is in already somewhere on the website don’t owe it to players to put it up repeatedly.

They’re really just cheating themselves here. It might work with small wins, but they’re ignoring what happens once a big win comes in. That’s when accounts get checked properly. If the system didn’t catch the bypass earlier, it definitely will during a large withdrawal, and once that happens, the violation is obvious. At that point, an account ban is almost guaranteed.

[khaled0111]

The warning message clearly before the user is allowed to log in is often sufficient as it will advise the users that the casino is not permitted in their country.

Sorry, but I can’t agree with this. Just awarning message is not enough. As a casino operator, if you know that a member is trying to access your platform from a restricted country then why not simply deny access instead of just displaying a “warning message”? It’s not like if doing so would cost more (money) or require additional resources! But again, it’s not up to me to judge, I'm just giving my opinion.
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[gunhell16]

Most people who experience problems with casinos in this case are those who have minimal literacy regarding the FAQ/ToS and immediately deposit, especially on casino platforms that do not require KYC before creating an account, without realizing that when making a withdrawal they have to do KYC and their KYC is rejected because they come from a country that is prohibited by the casino, and this is what usually becomes a problem, in contrast to casinos that require KYC at the beginning before making a deposit because users will know when their data is rejected directly by the casino before making a deposit.

True, the problem is with player who failed to check the ToS.  Sadly, most players who encounter this kind of problem are due to their lack of ToS knowledge blame the platform of cheating them when they have been at fault in the first place.

As players who understand the rules, they must open the rules sheet at the casino before registering, and I hope that casinos that require KYC are also a good choice for them to require KYC at the beginning when their customers register.

I highly agree, the player must be responsible for knowing the dos and don'ts of the gambling platform they are playing with.  Not only should they be knowledgeable about the requirements for withdrawal but also, but they must also be knowledgeable about the limitations of the gambling platform implementations, like the number of players allowed in one IP , the VPN, and other stuff.

It is disappointing to see how many people remain hard-headed, jumping into things without understanding the rules. They overlook the Terms of Service, the most critical step before joining a gambling platform.

If players took the time to understand these terms, they would develop the discipline needed to be responsible gamblers.
It is through this awareness that they can avoid the path toward destructive addiction.

[Zoomic]

The warning message clearly before the user is allowed to log in is often sufficient as it will advise the users that the casino is not

Sorry, but I can’t agree with this. Just awarning message is not enough. As a casino operator, if you know that a member is trying to access your platform from a restricted country then why not simply deny access instead of just displaying a “warning message”? It’s not like if doing so would cost more (money) or require additional resources! But again, it’s not up to me to judge, I'm just giving my opinion.

If you did not cut part of the post, we would have gotten the full message of Mandoy. If the casino decides to block their restricted areas, days does not prevent some users to access the platform with VPN or tor browser. I agree with you that blocking the restricted area is good but that also will not prevent users to access the platform.

Knowing too well that there will always be bypassing even when they are geo-block, so going with warning is also good so that they will read the consequences, whether or not they try to manipulate.

[adultcrypto]

The warning message clearly before the user is allowed to log in is often sufficient as it will advise the users that the casino is not

Sorry, but I can’t agree with this. Just awarning message is not enough. As a casino operator, if you know that a member is trying to access your platform from a restricted country then why not simply deny access instead of just displaying a “warning message”? It’s not like if doing so would cost more (money) or require additional resources! But again, it’s not up to me to judge, I'm just giving my opinion.

Most casinos block access via the IP address of the user which they are able to detect when the site is accessed without VPN. I agree with you that it is better that way to save everyone the stress and drama that comes with such things. However, there may be instances where the casino may not block access to their site for people in their restricted regions but will definitely indicate that such regions are not allowed to use their platform so that anyone who goes ahead after the warning may be donating money to the casino. There was a time I login to Betpanda to play some casino games but they did not allow me for the reason that the license of the game provide did not cover my region. However, they gave me the option of using a VPN which I found risky so I had to play something else instead of the game I wanted to try.

[khaled0111]

If you did not cut part of the post, we would have gotten the full message of Mandoy. If the casino decides to block their restricted areas, days does not prevent some users to access the platform with VPN or tor browser. I agree with you that blocking the restricted area is good but that also will not prevent users to access the platform.

Thank you for pointing this out. I just checked the part I quoted, and indeed I mistakenly cut off part of the relevant content. I will edit my post so it becomes more relevant and easier to understand the context. Sorry about that but the good thing is that you can always click on the quoted text to read the full post.
I always trim the irrelevant parts of the posts I’m responding to and I’m using my mobile to do so, so mistakes can happen. Sorry again!
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[Perfectbaby]

Of course and whatever amount that is being funded on the gambling site can't be withdrawable as the casino would also restrict them from having back their access to their funds if they check through the authorized country and notice it was a limited and restricted zone then their deposit could be voided. At least there is need to always the permitted zone and region before making use of the gambling site.

It is generally true before and during time of using any platform, service by reading FAQ and ToS of any company. At least, do your quick skimming and scanning for finding most important terms for your account and fund, that does not take too much time.

Several years ago, I created my topic ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?. I wanted to give people a reminder about importance of this practice that is still meaningful in 2026.

Spending some time for this important step can help you have less headache and more comfortable experience on any platform with your money funded there.

When people don't read Tos they often faces lot of challenges generally in the casino and during time of registration people just skip that section and rushed to to click on the acceptance of the ToS without them knowing what it means and how they operate including their service charges, that is why most people find it extremely difficult to scale through some gambling sites.

[internetional]

There is also the problem that casinos put overly harsh wording into their ToS, wording that in reality has no practical purpose even for the casino itself. And what difference does it make if I read them? Yes, before making a deposit I can suggest that the casino changes the wording. But my case with 2up.io shows that the casino simply won't do that.

BTW, finding a gambling platform without user-unacceptable conditions is nearly impossible.

[avp2306]

It is generally true before and during time of using any platform, service by reading FAQ and ToS of any company. At least, do your quick skimming and scanning for finding most important terms for your account and fund, that does not take too much time.

Several years ago, I created my topic ToS, do you read it before using new platforms?. I wanted to give people a reminder about importance of this practice that is still meaningful in 2026.

Spending some time for this important step can help you have less headache and more comfortable experience on any platform with your money funded there.

When people don't read Tos they often faces lot of challenges generally in the casino and during time of registration people just skip that section and rushed to to click on the acceptance of the ToS without them knowing what it means and how they operate including their service charges, that is why most people find it extremely difficult to scale through some gambling sites.

I see that thing normally happening since there are people think they know everything and assume that all casinos just have the same rules.

This is the reason why we keep seeing people posting their frustration because they didn't know that rules exist and they are been compromised. If they just read their rules early for sure that they won't experience that situation especially that they maybe get aware on those important things need to avoid while playing in a online casino. Also yeah its still meaningful practice to read the TOS and people should not down play its importance, then just pay attention when they are in trouble.

[maydna]

When people don't read Tos they often faces lot of challenges generally in the casino and during time of registration people just skip that section and rushed to to click on the acceptance of the ToS without them knowing what it means and how they operate including their service charges, that is why most people find it extremely difficult to scale through some gambling sites.

Unless if they only wants to have fun in their free time, they may not read TOS. They will not think to get in the problems because they deposits small money and not think much if the money may lose. They will not care the TOS and accepting it without reading.

But if they playing gambling very often and don't want to have trouble, reading TOS is necessary. They must makes sure knowing the rules before depositing.