2UP.io | No-KYC Crypto Casino & BTC Sportsbook | Fast Withdrawals + 200% Bonus

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

However, 2UP has a no deposit bonus which was opened for at least 100 users of this forum ^{(if i still remember the number correctly, and i don't know if the no deposit is still available for now)}

The figure is accurate and it was clarified by the 2UP representative account jn the following post.

https://help.2up.io/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

We ran this promo here on bitcointalk and we limited it to the first 100 players, I don't see anyone complaining, get 10$ without depositing, play as long as you want, if you make it to XX amount, deposit that XX amount, play 5x and can withdraw the whole thing, its pretty good deal, but then again its not compulsory, if you don't like it just don't take it, why would this be incompetent?

Also if the gambling site have the KYC data of the gamblers, they can go one step ahead and take legal action against the gamblers too but that may not be possible for every country.

With business like gambling, they have their fund for business operation including marketing and payment for their users so they must be carefully with cheating activities from users. 2UP is not an exception, and if an online gambling company found evidence of cheating and suspicious activities on their platform, it is fairly to take action in order to defend their business finance. KYC in such user cases with investigations is accepted but it is always true that KYC is dangerous.

Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless

[2UP.io]

However, 2UP has a no deposit bonus which was opened for at least 100 users of this forum ^{(if i still remember the number correctly, and i don't know if the no deposit is still available for now)}

The figure is accurate and it was clarified by the 2UP representative account jn the following post.

https://help.2up.io/en/articles/12264449-no-deposit-bonus-no-deposit-free-spins-withdrawal-rules

We ran this promo here on bitcointalk and we limited it to the first 100 players, I don't see anyone complaining, get 10$ without depositing, play as long as you want, if you make it to XX amount, deposit that XX amount, play 5x and can withdraw the whole thing, its pretty good deal, but then again its not compulsory, if you don't like it just don't take it, why would this be incompetent?

Also if the gambling site have the KYC data of the gamblers, they can go one step ahead and take legal action against the gamblers too but that may not be possible for every country.

With business like gambling, they have their fund for business operation including marketing and payment for their users so they must be carefully with cheating activities from users. 2UP is not an exception, and if an online gambling company found evidence of cheating and suspicious activities on their platform, it is fairly to take action in order to defend their business finance. KYC in such user cases with investigations is accepted but it is always true that KYC is dangerous.

Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless

Yeah we won't ask for KYC.

[lionheart78]

Many casinos claim they don't conduct KYC checks, but then people complain about them later saying they do. It seems you were too upset.

This had been discussed on the earlier posts, and as said, casino offering a No KYC requirement to the regular players is for their convenience, but it does not overide the Anti-Money Laundering Law, and the casino security system and thei ToS.

Any account that is clean can enjoy the No-KYC policy of the platform since it is their privilege, but the moment they breach the ToS, and do a suspicious act, the privilege of NO-KYC policy of the casino will be lifted thus, these suspected account is not protected by this policy anymore.  It is also the reason why they have to undergo KYC.

But I read this casino is somehow lenient since they will allow these users to withdraw without undergoing KYC even if they suspect these accounts.

[Ojima-ojo]

Yeah we won't ask for KYC.

This some bold statement from the team and sure on their own I don't expect them to ask for any form of KYC from player's, but then also we must act within the law that allows free access to the casino by acting within the allowed laws guinding the casino.

KYC may be demanded if the gambler abuse the rules of the casinos since they are centralized casino but with no mandatory KYC.

[Zwei]

Yeah we won't ask for KYC.

This some bold statement from the team and sure on their own I don't expect them to ask for any form of KYC from player's, but then also we must act within the law that allows free access to the casino by acting within the allowed laws guinding the casino.

well, according to 2UP terms, players can withdraw without having to thru KYC.
so unless they go against their own terms, no one should be asked for KYC just to withdraw.

KYC may be demanded if the gambler abuse the rules of the casinos since they are centralized casino but with no mandatory KYC.

some do, some don't. KYC rules are not the same on every casino (centralized or not), which is why you should always read the terms to know what to expect before you make a depo and play.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Yeah we won't ask for KYC.

This some bold statement from the team and sure on their own I don't expect them to ask for any form of KYC from player's, but then also we must act within the law that allows free access to the casino by acting within the allowed laws guinding the casino.

KYC may be demanded if the gambler abuse the rules of the casinos since they are centralized casino but with no mandatory KYC.

Well, I have an honest question concerning what you said, I was reading and wondering if kyc was supposed to be or serve as a punishment to offenders who by one way or the other break the casinos terms of use or terms and conditions..

One thing I am very certain about is that any casino that claims to not ask users for kyc but yet, use kyc as a way of punishing offenders, they will sooner or later turn everyone into an offender especially if or after you must have gambled, get lucky and win a huge amount of money, and you then place a withdrawal request, they will claim you won by cheating and ask for kyc verification, while they possibly hope you won't be able to provide the necessary documents so they can seize the money you  won.. 😁

Casinos operate using different tactics but I hope this one is different though.

[Potato Chips]

well, according to 2UP terms, players can withdraw without having to thru KYC.
so unless they go against their own terms, no one should be asked for KYC just to withdraw.

Speaking of, I did notice they have a dedicated page for the usual kyc/aml policies which naturally have clauses that contradicts this, see: https://2up.io/policy/aml-ctf. So I'm confused.

Though imo, a no-mandatory kyc casino is still pretty good in this time—all things considered like standard compliance. Because most of the time, this allows us to test the waters before committing.

[Zwei]

well, according to 2UP terms, players can withdraw without having to thru KYC.
so unless they go against their own terms, no one should be asked for KYC just to withdraw.

Speaking of, I did notice they have a dedicated page for the usual kyc/aml policies which naturally have clauses that contradicts this, see: https://2up.io/policy/aml-ctf. So I'm confused.

now i'm confused as well, lol.

apparently, you need to give them your info if you deposit above a certain amount, so like what's the point of saying you don't ask for KYC on withdrawals (which is not really the case as shown below)?
ofc you would not need to ask for KYC then, cause you would have already did before, wtf.





@2UP.io can you clarify here? what you said in your post does not match what's written in your AML & CTF policy.

[blue Snow]

@2UP.io can you clarify here? what you said in your post does not match what's written in your AML & CTF policy.

I read this carefully, maybe they will ask KYC if there is a player who hasn't under certain conditions. If playing normally and does not show any suspicious activity, they don't ask for KYC.

[Bitinity]

@2UP.io can you clarify here? what you said in your post does not match what's written in your AML & CTF policy.

I read this carefully, maybe they will ask KYC if there is a player who hasn't under certain conditions. If playing normally and does not show any suspicious activity, they don't ask for KYC.

In other side, it is written that withdrawal can be on hold until verification is done when a player request a withdrawal which exceeding the threshold both single limit or cummulatively (as well as for deposit). Which means that even if a player playing normally without any suspicious activity but reaching the deposit and/or withdrawal threshold, KYC will be asked.

[Little Mouse]

@2UP.io can you clarify here? what you said in your post does not match what's written in your AML & CTF policy.

I read this carefully, maybe they will ask KYC if there is a player who hasn't under certain conditions. If playing normally and does not show any suspicious activity, they don't ask for KYC.

In other side, it is written that withdrawal can be on hold until verification is done when a player request a withdrawal which exceeding the threshold both single limit or cummulatively (as well as for deposit). Which means that even if a player playing normally without any suspicious activity but reaching the deposit and/or withdrawal threshold, KYC will be asked.

They have changed the KYC policy after getting feedbacks here. Possible that they missed editing some terms mistakenly. They are a true no KYC casino. Will never ask for KYC.

[Bitinity]

@2UP.io can you clarify here? what you said in your post does not match what's written in your AML & CTF policy.

I read this carefully, maybe they will ask KYC if there is a player who hasn't under certain conditions. If playing normally and does not show any suspicious activity, they don't ask for KYC.

In other side, it is written that withdrawal can be on hold until verification is done when a player request a withdrawal which exceeding the threshold both single limit or cummulatively (as well as for deposit). Which means that even if a player playing normally without any suspicious activity but reaching the deposit and/or withdrawal threshold, KYC will be asked.

They have changed the KYC policy after getting feedbacks here. Possible that they missed editing some terms mistakenly. They are a true no KYC casino. Will never ask for KYC.

Since you have confirmed here which is something I can trust, means that their AML policy related to KYC based on deposit/withdrawal threshold need to be updated or maybe need to be deleted. Perhaps you can forward this to the team so they can update it as soon as possible which will the doubt about the claim of no kyc gone.

[Zwei]

Since you have confirmed here which is something I can trust, means that their AML policy related to KYC based on deposit/withdrawal threshold need to be updated or maybe need to be deleted. Perhaps you can forward this to the team so they can update it as soon as possible which will the doubt about the claim of no kyc gone.

i don't think they can delete. as far as i know, having an AML/KYC policy is one of the requirements for the gambling license they have, so they must have that info publicly posted to stay compliant.
and since LM has vouched for them as a true NO KYC casino, i guess we just have to trust their word over what's in the terms.

they will probley not ask for KYC for at least 99% of the cases (just like most of other casinos), but let's wait and see if they gonna do a 180 or not.

[suzanne5223]

Since you have confirmed here which is something I can trust, means that their AML policy related to KYC based on deposit/withdrawal threshold need to be updated or maybe need to be deleted. Perhaps you can forward this to the team so they can update it as soon as possible which will the doubt about the claim of no kyc gone.

i don't think they can delete. as far as i know, having an AML/KYC policy is one of the requirements for the gambling license they have, so they must have that info publicly posted to stay compliant.
and since LM has vouched for them as a true NO KYC casino, i guess we just have to trust their word over what's in the terms.

they will probley not ask for KYC for at least 99% of the cases (just like most of other casinos), but let's wait and see if they gonna do a 180 or not.

It all depends on the license, though. There are some master license holders that don't prioritize the casino that secures gambling through them to implement KYC, but there's rules that the casino can provide one that's if they want to prevent their business from having issues with the authority in the future due to AML policy. However, I read days ago that there's going to be some change in gambling license policy next year, which could lead to the removal of the master license holder in the Curacao region, or so but I don't have the time to read the full information.

As you said, the casino can have the KYC information publicly displayed, while they didn't request KYC, that is also possible in some cases, but not most time.

[mirakal]

However, I read days ago that there's going to be some change in gambling license policy next year, which could lead to the removal of the master license holder in the Curacao region, or so but I don't have the time to read the full information.

As you said, the casino can have the KYC information publicly displayed, while they didn't request KYC, that is also possible in some cases, but not most time.

Curacao-licensed providers really do have light regulations, so it’s true that 2UP.io operates as a no-KYC casino. Curacao doesn’t strictly mediate or regulate the casinos under their jurisdiction, which is why many platforms prefer to get licensed there as it’s easier and more flexible.

And honestly, many of us like that setup because we value privacy. These stricter regulations may claim to protect gamblers, but in reality, a casino’s reputation should already be enough to determine whether it’s trustworthy or not. Heavy-handed regulators just make things more complicated with endless requirements, which goes against the very essence of crypto which is privacy and freedom.

[Davidvictorson]

Curacao-licensed providers really do have light regulations, so it’s true that 2UP.io operates as a no-KYC casino. Curacao doesn’t strictly mediate or regulate the casinos under their jurisdiction, which is why many platforms prefer to get licensed there as it’s easier and more flexible.

Wow, I just learned something new from you now. I used to think that all casino licensed providers have the same regulations but now I know that there are difference based on the provider. Aside this license provider the other one that is popular is Malta Gaming Authority.

Heavy-handed regulators just make things more complicated with endless requirements, which goes against the very essence of crypto which is privacy and freedom.

You are right unfortunately, we are caught between our privacy and out entertainment.

[ryzaadit]

I used to think that all casino licensed providers have the same regulations but now I know that there are difference based on the provider. Aside this license provider the other one that is popular is Malta Gaming Authority.

Not every things is the same.

These is why, always double or triple check before register and deposit. Could be is different than your regular casino is being used by you. Majority, casino who are running or focused in Asia having experience.

They used license provider from other license.

[lionheart78]

Not every things is the same.

These is why, always double or triple check before register and deposit. Could be is different than your regular casino is being used by you. Majority, casino who are running or focused in Asia having experience.

They used license provider from other license.

This thing is the most overlooked by gamblers.  Since they are so eager to play and spend their money in the gambling platform, they tend to ignore the ToS of the platform then later whine about something and play as a victim, while it is clearly written on the ToS that they missed to read.

It is really a hustle to read long documents but since every casino has different ToS, we should be patient enough to read them carefully so that we can fully understand and play in the ground of safety not to breach any terms of the ToS.

This will give us knowledge to avoid things prohibited by the casino and ensure us the convenience of playing on the platform without worrying whether we are breaking the rule or not.

[bitcoindusts]

Curacao-licensed providers really do have light regulations, so it’s true that 2UP.io operates as a no-KYC casino. Curacao doesn’t strictly mediate or regulate the casinos under their jurisdiction, which is why many platforms prefer to get licensed there as it’s easier and more flexible.

Wow, I just learned something new from you now. I used to think that all casino licensed providers have the same regulations but now I know that there are difference based on the provider. Aside this license provider the other one that is popular is Malta Gaming Authority.

I also thought that casino license issued by an authority have the same terms and rulings,  this is the first time I read that casino licensed are different and flexible according to the casino's needs.  This is a new information for me.

Heavy-handed regulators just make things more complicated with endless requirements, which goes against the very essence of crypto which is privacy and freedom.

You are right unfortunately, we are caught between our privacy and out entertainment.

Regulators are just power tripping, imposing their strict regulation to show the masses that they have the ultimate authority and often acts aggressively once they learned that casinos are not complying with their implemented regulation.

[Minor Miner]

2UP.io is back with another seriously strong campaign drop. 
I am really happy to see that 2UP are giving away a 215 USDT prize pool and exclusive perks to early members.
This partnership with Zealy proves that they want to reward the real ones, the ones who engage and show up.

I am seriously getting in, if you do not want to miss out on this free prize pool, get in  fast, there is still ~10 days left.