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October 18, 2025, 04:15:35 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2025, 04:39:32 AM by lovesmayfamilis
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I'd like to address a topic that came up in another thread and ask the community what they think about users who behave less than truthfully by posting in various local sections without being native speakers. Since I didn’t receive a convincing answer after sending a PM, I’m opening a new topic.
The quote clearly shows that at least two accounts translated posts on the Netherlands (Dutch) and Serbian local boards. If we look at rule 27, "Using automated translation tools to post translated content on local boards is not allowed," it's clear that these rules were ignored to gain additional merit. Furthermore, we can see that the translations were posted on the same day but by different accounts within a short timeframe. I'm inclined to believe that these two accounts are alternates.

1. bitcoin_mining
2. Platinumys


That's right. I see another account that's also pretending to be a citizen of a country they're not. I mentioned earlier the account that pretends to be a polyglot. Jaksonhard
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562202.msg65924650#msg65924650

 Yesterday he sent 2 merits to what appears to be an alternative account that was also active at the beginning, posting to Nederlands (Dutch), of which he is not a citizen...


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527700.msg64991525#msg64991525


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5527700.msg64990995#msg64990995


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498802.msg64168183#msg64168183

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=bitcoin_mining&board=79

It's also very clear that it's giving merit to accounts from Bangladesh, and as always a fan of cricket and pizza
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3581860


Bangladesh will be ...

The pursuit of merit in local sections of generous merit sources is quite old and popular.



Another Bangladeshi account posting in Serbian.

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Platinumys&board=11


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51450.msg64987939#msg64987939

Please note that the same topic has been translated using Google Translate! The remaining posts have been deleted.

Da li si uopste sa Srpskog govornog podrucja?

Merit transfer to the same accounts from Bangladesh
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3585776

Naturally there are posts about cricket:


It is difficult to understand whether West Indies are playing ODI or T20 against Bangladesh.


Sri Lanka U19 team scored 228 runs in the first innings against Bangladesh


I'm sure this account is not Nigerian either!
posts deleted!
https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Bluedrem&board=228

এই থ্রেডে কি আমরা দেশ ও বিদেশের বর্তমান প্রেক্ষাপট,  কিছু গুরুত্বপূর্ণ তথ্য , তথ্য ও পরিবেশের অসংগতি ইত্যাদি নিয়ে আমরা আলোচনা করতে পারি ? যেখান থেকে আমরা নতুন নতুন অনেক তথ্য জানতে পারলাম আবার পরিবেশে কি ধরনের অসঙ্গতি হচ্ছে সে বিষয়ে মোটামুটি স্বেচ্ছার হতে পারলাম। যেমন ধরুন গ্লোবাল স্ট্রাইকের আওতাভুক্ত সারা পৃথিবীব্যাপী সকল মানুষ কর্মবিরতি পালন করছে,, কিন্তু আমরা অনেকেই জানিনা এই গ্লোবাল স্ট্রাইক জিনিসটা কি।


আমরাই মনে হয় কম কিসের, আমরা আসলে যার যার জায়গা থেকে সচেতন না,, মনে করেন আজ রাস্তায় একটা অন্যায় দেখলাম অন্যায়টা  দেখে এড়িয়ে গেলাম ভাবলাম আরে অন্যায় করতেছে করুক এটা তো আর আমার গায়ে লাগছে না অহেতুক তাকে শুধরে দিতে গিয়ে কেন দোষের পাল্লায় করবো? এই যে অহেতুক কথাটা যে বললাম এটা কি আসলেই অহেতুক? তাকে শুধরে না দেওয়ার কারণে সে যে অন্যায়টা করলো এটার প্রভাব কি ব্যক্তিগতভাবে কখনো না কখনো আমার উপর পড়বে না? এ বিষয়টার কারণে তাকে কি পরবর্তীতে দ্বিতীয় কোন অন্যায় কাজ করতে উদ্বুদ্ধ করবে না?

আসলে আমাদের উচিত যার যার জায়গা থেকে সচেতন হওয়া।



There's also a newbie posting in the Arabic and Nigerian sections, although it's easy to guess he's just pretending.

Furthermore, the Bluedrem account explained to me the reason for his posts in the Nigerian section: he wanted to find out something, although the archive shows slightly different statistics, and he has a post in which he submitted a request for merit from a local source of merit.

- Only posts from our Nigerian local board are allowed

https://ninjastic.space/post/65427574

This thread will serve to identify other similar accounts that are willing to resort to any deception in their quest for rank.

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October 18, 2025, 04:58:26 AM
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Good initiative, although the problem I see is that, unlike, for example, the AI Spam Report Reference Thread. Here we are not going to have a system to identify with certainty whether automatic translators are being used. We do not have automatic translation detectors, for example. I have dealt with some cases on my local board and in some particular case it is difficult to determine. I suppose it will be intuition more than anything else, combined with some mistake made by machine translators that the user does not know how to correct. 

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October 18, 2025, 11:50:13 AM
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Yes, @Platinumys drew attention to bad translations, even the one listed in this analysis is not so critical. Earlier, I already reported one of his posts to the moderators, which was deleted, because an automated translation was used. https://ninjastic.space/post/64997445
I didn't have time to do any more research at the time, so I thought a report post would suffice.

The Serbian language is straightforward, with clear and consistent rules. "Write as You Speak, Read as It Is Written", and that means each written letter corresponds to a single sound, and when reading, you pronounce the word exactly as it is spelled.
That's why automated translation is often meaningless, because the tools don't have translation for slang, names, or some more complex words, and translate them directly. Such oversights cannot happen to a human.

For example, @Platinumys translated the username TryNinja as "TpиHињa", even if this username were to be "translated", that would sound like "ПpoбajHинџy"
Or he directly translates the username of the Telegram bot @Piggy (to @Пигги), which is also incorrect.

 
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The accounts you stated seem to be part of a bigger account farm and/or merit abuse: Interesting behaviour by the "MrNata" account that led to possible account farm

What does not help the situation is with how much relative ease they manage to enroll on campaigns. As they feel rewarded, they create/buy more accounts and repeat the process. Ultimately, the decision is with campaign managers but if they stopped recruiting accounts with dubious conduct they would be forcing them out of the forum.

If we look at rule 27, "Using automated translation tools to post translated content on local boards is not allowed," it's clear that these rules were ignored to gain additional merit. Furthermore, we can see that the translations were posted on the same day but by different accounts within a short timeframe. I'm inclined to believe that these two accounts are alternates.

1. bitcoin_mining
2. Platinumys

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I also think that this account is an alternative and even assume that it may be from Bangladesh. Why do I think so? Simply because I see several similar accounts that are also unlikely to be native speakers but use Google Translate and publish their posts where there are generous sources of merit.

   N.O



All the merit he received was solely from Bangladeshis.
The same can be said about the merits sent.

Here is one of the accounts I suspect, which is not a native speaker but pretends to be. After being warned by @hugeblack, @GxSTxV and @mikeywith his posting in the Arabic locale suddenly stopped. Coincidence? I don't think so.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498152.msg64157258#msg64157258


I also asked one of the accounts that I suspect of being alternative about the fact that he gifted an old post in Arabic. I asked if he was a native speaker, but naturally, I did not receive a positive answer.





Merits were sent after a few months. Does anyone really believe that these people read the Arabic section without knowing the language?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3581457


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Zerato&to=N.O


You can see the same picture with the flow of merits from the Zerato account. The behavior is identical to the behavior of N.O., who also copied the news and translated it with the addition of the source. Google Translate is their indispensable assistant.

Everything is the same, but for a long time. Let everything be in one place.

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Are we seeing users posting in both the Arabic section (as one of the easy-to-earn merits for posting in Arabic) and the Nigerian section again?
I'd like to ask @0x000369 if this thread reflects their behavior.
https://ninjastic.space/user/0x000369

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Are we seeing users posting in both the Arabic section (as one of the easy-to-earn merits for posting in Arabic) and the Nigerian section again?
I'd like to ask @0x000369 if this thread reflects their behavior.
https://ninjastic.space/user/0x000369
Inasmuch as posting in two or more local boards is not a crime, if you are knowledgeable enough and could write in both local boards without the use of Google translator. But the purpose to which they post is actually important. As some people uses this strategy as a main medium of hunting for merit on a local board that is known to be the most active and flourishing. And in regards to this case of @0x000369, it is 100% certain that this user is an Arab person. Because the first local board he posted on was the Arabic local board on June 20th 2023, while the second local board he posted on was Naija on November 14th 2025.

Hence, it shows this user is an Arab who just only wants to farm merit on the Naija local board. Proof shown below

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November 18, 2025, 12:34:42 PM
Merited by lovesmayfamilis (2), ABCbits (1)
 #8

Are we seeing users posting in both the Arabic section (as one of the easy-to-earn merits for posting in Arabic) and the Nigerian section again?
I'd like to ask @0x000369 if this thread reflects their behavior.
https://ninjastic.space/user/0x000369

أتفق معاكم يا إخوة نقاش مهم جدا وكلام @hugeblack و @khaled0111 هو الخلاصة فعلا

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اللي بيشتري USDT بالجنيه كأنه اشترى دولار من السوق السوداء بالظبط وعشان كده الخبر متضخم أوي كأنها مجرمة كبيرة هي تهمتها الحقيقية انها "تاجرت عملة" خارج النظام الرسمي

وزي ما قال @GxSTxV شيء محزن والله

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Well, your post caught my attention and brought me here, Im also glad that this user tagged me in that quoted post. I will ignore the reply above from the person defending 0x000369 (which I find very sus and weird) as I don’t know what relationship they have, plus the explanation don't make any sense especially since the user specifically in question was couldn't defend himself yet or provide any valid explanation.

Anyway, I want to highlight that this user is certainly using AI to write his posts in Arabic, because I can easily recognize it when I read Arabic. Here is some proofs:





@lovesmayfamilis I want to thank you for bringing up this matter as it happened manny times in our Arabic section. You are free to check again the quoted reply for AI use and maybe there are more.


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Well, your post caught my attention and brought me here, Im also glad that this user tagged me in that quoted post. I will ignore the reply above from the person defending 0x000369 (which I find very sus and weird) as I don’t know what relationship they have, plus the explanation don't make any sense especially since the user specifically in question was couldn't defend himself yet or provide any valid explanation.

Anyway, I want to highlight that this user is certainly using AI to write his posts in Arabic, because I can easily recognize it when I read Arabic. Here is some proofs:



Thank you; that's exactly what I wanted to hear, as I know of cases where native speakers have complained about errors in texts by those pretending to be from another country.


@0x000369, it is 100% certain that this user is an Arab person. Because the first local board he posted on was the Arabic local board on June 20th 2023, while the second local board he posted on was Naija on November 14th 2025.


However, your logic doesn't work, and it's very much so. Let me give you an example: what do you think about the LDL account? Is it obvious he's from Bangladesh? Or do you think he's Italian? Grin

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=LDL&board=11




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I'm late once again to another shit-slinging party, i.e., I missed a thread about idiots doing idiotic things.  Figures.

Now I don't know about members trying to get away with posting in a local board dealing with a language in which said members aren't proficient, but I've been seeing morons who probably wouldn't count English as their 4th language try to write coherently and contribute something relevant to whatever topic is at hand for over 10 years now.  There might well be more polyglots in Asia, South America, and in various parts of Europe, but it seems like this forum sucked in the absolute worst of them all--and now there's no way to get rid of them.

Up 'til now, nobody has pretended to be a native English speaker if they weren't, because it was fairly easy to spot the use of translation tools.  Crap like ChatGPT and whatever AI helpers people want to use has changed all that to the point where I don't have a clue who's writing from brain to keyboard to forum or whether there's a language "enhancer" inserted somewhere within that pathway.

Did I mention that I've nearly pulled out all of my hair in the last 1.5 years or so because of this BS?  Fortunately I own a fine collection of baseball caps.

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Are we seeing users posting in both the Arabic section (as one of the easy-to-earn merits for posting in Arabic) and the Nigerian section again?
I'd like to ask @0x000369 if this thread reflects their behavior.
https://ninjastic.space/user/0x000369

أتفق معاكم يا إخوة نقاش مهم جدا وكلام @hugeblack و @khaled0111 هو الخلاصة فعلا

المشكلة مش في التداول نفسه المشكلة الحقيقية في التجارة P2P اللي بتتم بره البنك بالجنيه المصري عشان كده بيقولو "تهديد للاقتصاد القومي" هما مش بيحاربو البيتكوين ولا حاجة هما بيحاربو سوق الدولار الموازي

اللي بيشتري USDT بالجنيه كأنه اشترى دولار من السوق السوداء بالظبط وعشان كده الخبر متضخم أوي كأنها مجرمة كبيرة هي تهمتها الحقيقية انها "تاجرت عملة" خارج النظام الرسمي

وزي ما قال @GxSTxV شيء محزن والله

الهدف كله زي ما قولتوا هو الترهيب وبس هما عارفين انهم مش هيقدروا يمنعوا الناس كلها فبيمسكوا كام واحد ويعملوا عليهم شو إعلامي عشان الباقي يخاف



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@lovesmayfamilis nah man this aint me farming merits or whatever youre thinking
i post where i feel like cause crypto aint bound by borders op
im tunisian thats why i hop into arabic threads easy ana tounsi w n7eb netkellem bel darija kima n7eb
and pidgin yeah i got naija friends from old btc chats we trade stories and fud all day learned it that way no big deal
if you think its ai or multi acc rekt assumption bro check my history ive been around since the mtgox days
shnowa el hal ya jma3a labes alikoum prove enough or you need more darija lmao
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The number of these so-called polygots that are frequenting the form seem to be growing. If that really is the case then the problem will get bigger. Let us not forget the only mootive they have for conducting themselves in that manner is the hope of receiving merits and that is a necessity in order to build up their account for joining campaigns.

The only thing most have in common are suspicious posting patterns and strong indicators they are part of an account farm. As for the baseball caps, I am glad you own a fine selection (in the event you might need them)  Grin

I'm late once again to another shit-slinging party, i.e., I missed a thread about idiots doing idiotic things.  Figures.

Now I don't know about members trying to get away with posting in a local board dealing with a language in which said members aren't proficient, but I've been seeing morons who probably wouldn't count English as their 4th language try to write coherently and contribute something relevant to whatever topic is at hand for over 10 years now.  There might well be more polyglots in Asia, South America, and in various parts of Europe, but it seems like this forum sucked in the absolute worst of them all--and now there's no way to get rid of them.

Up 'til now, nobody has pretended to be a native English speaker if they weren't, because it was fairly easy to spot the use of translation tools.  Crap like ChatGPT and whatever AI helpers people want to use has changed all that to the point where I don't have a clue who's writing from brain to keyboard to forum or whether there's a language "enhancer" inserted somewhere within that pathway.

Did I mention that I've nearly pulled out all of my hair in the last 1.5 years or so because of this BS?  Fortunately I own a fine collection of baseball caps.

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@lovesmayfamilis nah man this aint me farming merits or whatever youre thinking
i post where i feel like cause crypto aint bound by borders op
im tunisian thats why i hop into arabic threads easy ana tounsi w n7eb netkellem bel darija kima n7eb
and pidgin yeah i got naija friends from old btc chats we trade stories and fud all day learned it that way no big deal
if you think its ai or multi acc rekt assumption bro check my history ive been around since the mtgox days
shnowa el hal ya jma3a labes alikoum prove enough or you need more darija lmao

You don't need to fake pidgin to communicate on the Naija local board, our board is 50% English and 50% Pidgin - using pidgin doesn't give any form of leverage, no need to overdo yourself or pretending to be native. Use English.

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February 09, 2026, 03:40:07 AM
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I don't think it is necessary to be fluent in a language in order to post in that local section. It is not uncommon for people to try to learn a new language by trying to immerse themselves in a situation in which they speak (write) and hear (read) in that language exclusively. There is also a market for translators, and practicing (and creating a portfolio) is the only way someone can get better and gain credibility.

I probably wouldn't use merit in order to reward people for translating a thread in a local section if you are the OP of the thread being translated. It would be better if those in the local sub reward good translations with merit, who are in a better position to judge the quality of translations.
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