Our analysis determines our fate.

[alegotardo]

Congratulations on doing this practical analysis instead of simply relying on AI results without evaluation, and honestly... this only proves what I already knew: AI serves very well as a research assistant, but as a predictive oracle it still needs to evolve a lot.

I think nothing eliminates the need for human analysis... that's why AI helps a lot in doing the heavy lifting, which is researching, gathering information and summarizing the relevant data, but the final decision must always be made by the bettor and not the machine.

Do you know why the AI ​​failed in its tests? First, because it only processes historical data and ignores the human factor (unreported injuries, problems that happen in the locker room, motivation for titles or relegations)... there are many things that a machine will never be able to predict, such as a sudden change of coach... this changes a lot in the final result.

Anyway, I use AI to collect information for me, but I have never trusted it to make a decision for me.

[ozgr]

I’ve been betting for years, and I’ve realized that I’ve never actually used ai to place bets.
When I occasionally ask it for match predictions, it turns out to be quite accurate.
So now I’m thinking about creating 7–8 match system bets and running experiments based purely on data and scenarios, keeping emotions completely out of it.

[Sanitough]

I’ve been betting for years, and I’ve realized that I’ve never actually used ai to place bets.
When I occasionally ask it for match predictions, it turns out to be quite accurate.
So now I’m thinking about creating 7–8 match system bets and running experiments based purely on data and scenarios,

Good luck with that. I’d actually like to know if you end up being successful with your experience. If it goes well, feel free to share it here after that period.

Personally, I’ve always thought about doing the same, but the challenge for me is I get bored easily, especially when the run isn’t good. That’s when I end up going back to my usual style. It’s kind of fun at first, but I still lose in the end anyway.

keeping emotions completely out of it.

Now this is the real test.

[Strongkored]

From this I have concluded that in the end AI is still AI where it cannot be used as a benchmark for making decisions and can only be an auxiliary reference rather than a direct decision

I have tried it several times, yes, it's true, several times because I thought the first time was just unlucky and the second time was the same, but for the third and subsequent times, I finally came to the same conclusion as you, AI is still AI that cannot be relied on, not only for sports score predictions but also for others, in my opinion, data from AI is only for additional material for our analysis, don't trust AI blindly.

[Perfectbaby]

For my period of reading around this forum and in this gambling discussion section, I haven't see and comes across where people do say that AI is more better in terms of giving analysis, what I have only comes across is that they do say that it gives closers results but that doesn't mean that it is all corrects and again, for that of a lady who won a specific amount saying it was the help of AI. To be frank she was just lucky having that chance of winning that amount but that doesn't mean it was the AI who gave her that exact winning as many people have tried it and they didn't get the result they were all expecting.

[yhiaali3]

AI cannot predict the future. It is merely a machine that collects and analyzes data, providing results that are often inaccurate or highly imprecise, especially in predictions.

AI makes mistakes in far less than prediction. For example, I program using AI and it often gives me incorrect codes, and I have to correct them several times, and sometimes I do manual correction. These are errors at the level of existing data, so what about predicting events that have not yet occurred?

[VashaUdacha777]

From this I have concluded that in the end AI is still AI where it cannot be used as a benchmark for making decisions and can only be an auxiliary reference rather than a direct decision

I think the sample size is too small — just ten matches. Over such a short run, luck decides everything. You’d need at least 300 matches to confidently say who predicts games better, AI or you. I’m not sure about football matches, but in trading (forex, crypto, gold), AI predicts future prices really well and even fully tells you what to trade, how much to risk, where to put the stop-loss, and the take-profit.

[Africolo]

I've always been interested in some posts/discussions that relate AI can help us in betting especially in sportsbetting because some of us even quite confidently say that AI predictions can be greater than our own analysis in terms of percentage. like some post This which is got me interested do some steps testing.
~snIp~

You can't rely on AI while analyzing games because most times the ones we use our ideas to predict is better of,  than the ones we use AI for, even if I will want to use AI for predictions it won't be the entire games I will pick a few from the one AI has predicted and then add the one I used my hands to analyze and predict as one can't stand a chance of winning because it has been predicted using AI, so AI is not a benchmark for making decisions when it comes to gambling activities rather it depends on your sole knowledge of the game and the analysis you have made by yourself.

Even as we see AI as a perfect tool for predictions there are still errors that emanates from it, I once used AI to predict a correct score and I noticed so many errors from it so I had to correct it manually, people should not rely on AI even though it's very fast in analyzing and predictions, manual prediction is still the best to me and your analysis determines the outcome of the games you bet, anyone that wins from AI predictions is just very lucky.

[Porfirii]

AI cannot predict the future. It is merely a machine that collects and analyzes data, providing results that are often inaccurate or highly imprecise, especially in predictions.

AI makes mistakes in far less than prediction. For example, I program using AI and it often gives me incorrect codes, and I have to correct them several times, and sometimes I do manual correction. These are errors at the level of existing data, so what about predicting events that have not yet occurred?

You're right, AI doesn't work well when uncertainty is involved, at least not in markets or bets, maybe in physics, quantum science and the like it works very well (although after reading your comment on programming I even doubt it, at least without human check). Maybe that's because we don't know how to handle that uncertainty, we don't know what we don't know, and an AI based on past data doesn't seem to be the solution to that problem.

[Mayor of ogba]

No matter how much you analyze using AI from different tools it still won't be a benchmark --- even when the results are worse than we think making your own decisions is best in sports betting coupled with a strong feeling can determine your betting confidence.

I use AI only as a tool for analysis and some absent players, the rest is looking at h2h etc.
Sometimes I feel my own bets are better than AI.

Al can't determine what will happen in the future, so using AI tools to analyze a football match won't guarantee winning. Even though someone doesn't know how to analyze football matches and make predictions, I believe the person should be the one to choose the options to play in matches because that's the only way the person can learn how to analyze football matches. I don't use Al tool or prediction websites for analysis because I don't feel comfortable playing matches another person analyze or predict.

[swogerino]

AI is not able right now to determine our fate as it is not trained that much to give us a substantial additional help in order to achieve success. I think for the moment these models are being trained heavily and aggressively from their providers and in a couple of years from now they should be able to make analysis very easy for all of us which should in turn be a very good help option before deciding in which events to bet. Still don't get your hopes high as you are seeing yourself that in every single weekend a lot of surprise results happen and this is not random, it happens in a very consistent way which means it will be extremely difficult to overcome such type of results even with the help of AI.

[Raflesia]

From this I have concluded that in the end AI is still AI where it cannot be used as a benchmark for making decisions and can only be an auxiliary reference rather than a direct decision

I think the sample size is too small — just ten matches. Over such a short run, luck decides everything. You’d need at least 300 matches to confidently say who predicts games better, AI or you. I’m not sure about football matches, but in trading (forex, crypto, gold), AI predicts future prices really well and even fully tells you what to trade, how much to risk, where to put the stop-loss, and the take-profit.

I think in this case what the OP is trying to convey is how we should look at it according to its portion. AI is very good but it cannot be relied on directly because we will certainly be better than AI. Don't let us become dull just because we are restrained and think that we can't analyze properly because we actually have the potential for it.

AI is still useful? Of course it is still very useful but it is only used as an aid not as a certainty where the conclusions reached by AI are not swallowed whole by us.

Regardless of whether or not the number of matches is not important here because what needs to be believed is that AI cannot replace the analysis we do so it will not matter the number of these matches what is certain is that AI still cannot replace decisions and analysis and their function is only as an assistant not a decision maker in any case.

[vanesha]

From this I have concluded that in the end AI is still AI where it cannot be used as a benchmark for making decisions and can only be an auxiliary reference rather than a direct decision.

Of course. The best use of AI is as a virtual assistant for us. When it’s relied on to give prediction signals, it will never be 100% accurate. I’ve personally had experience with AI predictions—they can help forecast possibilities, but they shouldn’t be used as the sole basis for decision-making in gambling or trading.

[Betwrong]

No matter how much you analyze using AI from different tools it still won't be a benchmark --- even when the results are worse than we think making your own decisions is best in sports betting coupled with a strong feeling can determine your betting confidence.

I use AI only as a tool for analysis and some absent players, the rest is looking at h2h etc.
Sometimes I feel my own bets are better than AI.

I think your feeling is right, but since AI isn't just total bs, as many people think, it can be used for predictions too. After all, we are gambling for fun and it's pretty much entertaining when you use AI and win in the end. Keep in mind that AI is improving all the time so at some point its analysis might become better than of the most bettors and before everyone finds that out you'll have an advantage.

[blomen]

your analysis seems quite logical, but i don't think anyone is betting based on chatgpt or other ai models anyway. these ai systems don't have much information about the current state of the teams. -even if they did, it wouldn't change much-

they only know how many points the teams scored last season, how their matches against other teams ended, and things you can find on the internet. they never watched the matches and don't know how the players perform. that's why their analysis is meaningless.

[michellee]

AI gives prediction to us so we can compare the result with our prediction. But the final decision will be on our hands and not just rely on AI especially in gambling. We can use data from AI to our analysis so we can decide it based on our analysis.

The more data that we can get, the better our analysis. But no guarantee we will win because that still need luck. No one can predict accurately but we can speculate what team will win based on our analysis. So the presence of AI helps us gather additional data for our analysis.

[len01]

I honestly don’t know why there are still people who trust AI predictions until now. For me, AI is not suitable at all for predicting football match results, and I’m really skeptical about it. I tried it once, but after that I never trusted it again.

No matter what, doing your own analysis is far better. Even if the results aren’t that great, it’s still more satisfying than relying on tools like AI.

[Findingnemo]

Instead of asking AI to pick the answer for you, that can be used to make the analysis a lot easier, you can use the appropriate promt to get the data at ease and there you can compare and make your own analysis that is how one should use the AI tools in the sports betting instead of giving the answer and ask it to pick one for us because it does with the criteria we ask but it doesn't necessarily mean we will end up winning that bet.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Why would AI be good at predicting matches when most of the data is not even quantifiable.

How is an LLM going to know which players are sick, find scorecards etc. These materials aren't exactly built to be parsed. If you want to build your own model and have subscriptions to data sources it might be better at creating results based on data rather than just AI slop as most LLMs would do, but really it's not something that can guarantee results. Because even data driven predictions fail at gambling due to how odds are set.

A typical example of a tool that the hype doesn't suit it. We can't just allow the AI module to create a development on every functionality for the future, but we all want to make it look like it can even resurrect something from death. Do you know how many users have tried doing this type of speculation behind closed doors and failed with it, then they don't talk about it? They think if AI could perform black magic, everyone else wouldn't be as rich.
The more we keep relying on artificial intelligence, the more our ignorance and sense of dependency will pull us into our ruination. People can't even challenge creativity anymore these days.

[icebar]

your analysis seems quite logical, but i don't think anyone is betting based on chatgpt or other ai models anyway. these ai systems don't have much information about the current state of the teams. -even if they did, it wouldn't change much-

they only know how many points the teams scored last season, how their matches against other teams ended, and things you can find on the internet. they never watched the matches and don't know how the players perform. that's why their analysis is meaningless.

Using AI, a gambler will be able to easily find out all the past history which is not easy to find out quickly by humans. With this information, he may be able to go a little further in his decision but there are also many factors that the gambler should consider which cannot be traced by any AI. Especially in a live match in a sport, AI will not be able to give any result. There is no benefit in placing bets based on that. In some cases, AI may be good, but in reality, it cannot take any positive action regarding recent events.