Largest Connected Account Farm: 2 Accounts Building Positive Trust via Loans

[AakZaki]

First I created this separate thread because I was concerned that there would be no meaningful response from the community as a whole, especially from DT1 or DT2.

This thread started from an accusation by xmrhopium stating that the two accounts below are operated by the same person.

I found quite interesting 2 old user's few days ago, one is "Hero Member" aka " Xcode7" and another "Sr.Member" : "jems."

Here is a bitcoin address that both users used on the forum for signature campaign applications as follows:-

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Xcode7
jems

• Both of these accounts make posts generated by AI.
• These accounts have a history of posting in the Philippine local board even though they are actually from the Indonesian local board, my suspicion is that this practice is used because they have a very large^[1] account farm, to manipulate things so they are not detected as coming from the same local board.
• Both accounts have active loan funds from shasan, this is the key point related to the title of this thread.

I will start with my findings from the Xcode7 account below.

Xcode7 - 0x70c806B9a3D2298c16f381978A7953C847226F3C
sent to
Raja_Salman - 0x5790CAb3F0830857c1b2b4Baedb6819EcB24b2A5

https://etherscan.io/address/0x5790cab3f0830857c1b2b4baedb6819ecb24b2a5

The Raja_Salman account has been Banned. Isn’t this part of Ban evasion?

Both of these accounts were registered on:
Xcode7 – Date Registered: 01 March 2017, 14:45:28
Raja_Salman – Date Registered: 15 March 2017, 14:21:06

This record shows that they were registered within the same month.

Both accounts were also involved in the same bounty, the InsureX Bounty Spreadsheet


Next, I will continue with my findings related to the jems account. As I mentioned above, this account has a history of posting in the Philippine board, but its merit distribution is only directed to accounts from the Indonesian local board. This is a clear lie.

Below are the records of its merit distribution.


The Merit distribution record makes me even more suspicious because this account has never cared about useful Threads or Posts on the Indonesian Local Board. Even tend to the account names in the image above, even I have seen posts that get merit that are not useful except for general posts. I suspect the names are part of it, but I don't have any other evidence yet.

However another proof that this is a very large^[1] Farm account is below I quote and cut otherwise this will be a very Long Thread down please see this quote for yourself:

Xcode7,
Raja_Salman
TelolettOm
Godday

Proof:
Main Wallet: 0xFEBed3f7333F028aAF315E7aA6BDdF28Da95F853
Xcode7 : 0x70c806B9a3D2298c16f381978A7953C847226F3C : http://archive.is/CbAST
Raja_Salman : 0x70c806B9a3D2298c16f381978A7953C847226F3C : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VN61OS92gyZSHlYorDMfVVf90n3jl-HKTGbhBXVthNE/edit#gid=757700675
SnapDown22 : 0x70c806B9a3D2298c16f381978A7953C847226F3C : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QlbETkBQAgnSJth5Na2ypQL-RaE_b1tddBX1rqT5ZK8/edit#gid=941991872
Xcode7, Raja_Salman, SnapDown22 to 0xFEBed3f7333F028aAF315E7aA6BDdF28Da95F853
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4bd5e20fa45e69bd32ac0eaf9ec8388bd75b7b73e2627e68aa50758bde7bfb56

TelolettOm : 0x79dE5314e0603eb62B2b41C0140B9556294cddD3 : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QlbETkBQAgnSJth5Na2ypQL-RaE_b1tddBX1rqT5ZK8/edit#gid=941991872
TelolettOm to 0xFEBed3f7333F028aAF315E7aA6BDdF28Da95F853
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x0629933482e77e314ab6f4b2942d076d45071fbe638f17adec1236f2d4f18c9b

Godday : 0x14C7fC5F1a49B1cF1944f8be3091085ad791D061 : http://archive.is/RZLj1
godday to 0xFEBed3f7333F028aAF315E7aA6BDdF28Da95F853
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x0493f0586ddb009d6bf391cf143e264417593f20ac39d43ccca75935d2f3159c

At the conclusion of this thread that I created, there are five connected accounts, however based on Craige288’s quote, the number appears to be even larger.

• Xcode7
• jems
• Raja_Salman - Banned
• TelolettOm
• Godday - RedTrust

How do I respond to an account like this?

[SatoPrincess]

The evidence is compelling, also they both collected a loan from shasan last week. I’m starting to think that these accounts take loans as a way of securing their accounts against negative tags. I feel for Shasan because if the accounts get tagged they will likely not pay back the loan.

[hugeblack]

How do I respond to an account like this?

I think the following would be a good solution:

1. I'll add negative trust.
2. Those accounts can contact the campaign manager. If the campaign manager agrees, I'll change the negative trust to neutral (provided the payment address is changed to @shasan address).
3. Once the debt is paid, the negative trust will be restored.

Any additional ideas?


I hope @Shasan implements this -->

I don't know how lending works on the forum, but lenders (like Shasan in this case) should contact people who find alt accounts (like lovesmayfamilis/nutildah) to assess the risks associated with the account before approving a loan request^*.

Shasan could pay $20 or $50 per month for these accounts, and I think the risk of loan default would be significantly reduced.

*I do not encourage taking out loans.

[xmrhopium]

I feel for Shasan because if the accounts get tagged they will likely not pay back the loan.

yeah, only the negative side is that those users might vanish right after without repaying their loan dues to shasan :/

but the lender should acknowledge it as a precaution, at least they lose only a small amount early on but if they keep gaining more trust from shasan, it’s obvious that someday they could disappear with a much larger amount, right? that's own loss.

and I believe shasan is working on it..for avoiding such losses furthermore.

[_act_]

I hope @Shasan implements this -->

I don't know how lending works on the forum, but lenders (like Shasan in this case) should contact people who find alt accounts (like lovesmayfamilis/nutildah) to assess the risks associated with the account before approving a loan request^*.

Shasan could pay $20 or $50 per month for these accounts, and I think the risk of loan default would be significantly reduced.

*I do not encourage taking out loans.

Yes, this is not about encouraging loan service but just a suggestion of avoiding alts of misusing the loan service. It is a very brilliant idea the way I see it.

It will be good if there is a thread about it which is dedicated for it so that the people with alts will stop using their main account and alts to go for loan.

Some people are just very dubious, how can someone use his account including alt to borrow money, if his account is rendered useless now, he may not pay the loan.

[nutildah]

I hope @Shasan implements this -->

I don't know how lending works on the forum, but lenders (like Shasan in this case) should contact people who find alt accounts (like lovesmayfamilis/nutildah) to assess the risks associated with the account before approving a loan request^*.

Just FYI, I already do this free of charge, as shasan is one of my longest-standing forum friends.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Next, I will continue with my findings related to the jems account. As I mentioned above, this account has a history of posting in the Philippine board, but its merit distribution is only directed to accounts from the Indonesian local board. This is a clear lie.

There is no lie here; everything is much simpler . The Jems account does not belong to the original owner. I would say that the account changed owners twice. It is either bought or hacked. The Filipino wrote in 2017.

My country philippines accept bitcoin as payment

You can see for yourself in the four-year interval of publications. Appearing on the forum in May 2025, the account began to aggressively write in the Indonesian section and submit almost every post for review.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=960285;sa=showPosts;start=440


Previously, he also had many alternative accounts. And they also, if you check these accounts, belonged to people from Indonesia. And everything is marked with negative tags.

Accounts Connected:

kamudd, AntoCokbun, germa66, riaruhs09, LSt56, rysea2

Perhaps this was the first change of owners. That is why I suggested you search for his Telegram account in this post.

Oddly enough, the account remained untagged, but it has a large network of alt-accounts with negative tags. I think you might find something to look into in their past.

#Proof of authentification

Bitcointalk Username: jems
Bcnex Email: fitriyanatedi@gmail.com
Telegram Username: @yonkou_shanks04
Campaign: Signature

https://ninjastic.space/search?content=@yonkou_shanks04&limit=20

[GeorgeJohn]

The evidence is compelling, also they both collected a loan from shasan last week. I’m starting to think that these accounts take loans as a way of securing their accounts against negative tags.

You got it correct from my perspective, their intentions is to eyes off the both accounts

I feel for Shasan because if the accounts get tagged they will likely not pay back the loan.

It's  because of Shasan both accounts will not tagged now until it repay his loan from Shasan or it will be tagged but will still remains in campaign to enable he to repay his loan.

1. I'll add negative trust.
2. Those accounts can contact the campaign manager. If the campaign manager agrees, I'll change the negative trust to neutral (provided the payment address is changed to @shasan address).
3. Once the debt is paid, the negative trust will be restored.

Both negative and neutral tag can be given to the user, but the campaign manager will be inform to keep both accounts in campaign so that it will have source to repay shasan...

Changing his address to Shasan's address, that alone can made him not to be posting on the both accounts, because the payment is not longer going to his wallet...

[Satofan44]

I feel for Shasan because if the accounts get tagged they will likely not pay back the loan.

It's  because of Shasan both accounts will not tagged now until it repay his loan from Shasan or it will be tagged but will still remains in campaign to enable he to repay his loan.

This is not a valid reason to not tag those accounts. Shasan is doing this willfully, and as such he alone should bear the consequences of his actions. If he wants to continue to provide non collateral loans to any random idiot, that is up to him.

• Godday - RedTrust

This one is already tagged as part of this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567677, why didn't you continue this in that thread?

Here are the details of the connected account:

• Asyifiah - Red Trust
• BurhanPSG - Red Trust
• konco_kenthel - Red Trust
• agus_purno - Red Trust
• Godday
• Wildwest
• Rampagoe004
• ringgo96

[Majestic-milf]

The evidence is compelling, also they both collected a loan from shasan last week. I’m starting to think that these accounts take loans as a way of securing their accounts against negative tags. I feel for Shasan because if the accounts get tagged they will likely not pay back the loan.

It's a kind of fucked up character to have as a person. You know you've got multiple accounts but still go ahead to collect loans. So what happens to the payment of the loan when you get busted? Honestly I'm also starting to think shasan would need to be running a background check before giving out loans.

[AakZaki]

• Godday - RedTrust

This one is already tagged as part of this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567677, why didn't you continue this in that thread?

Here are the details of the connected account:

• Asyifiah - Red Trust
• BurhanPSG - Red Trust
• konco_kenthel - Red Trust
• agus_purno - Red Trust
• Godday
• Wildwest
• Rampagoe004
• ringgo96

At first I thought this was a different case as stated in the title. I conducted an investigation on the Xcode7 and jems accounts, but the name Godday also came up. I have already explained that this is a very large account farm.

It's a kind of fucked up character to have as a person. You know you've got multiple accounts but still go ahead to collect loans. So what happens to the payment of the loan when you get busted? Honestly I'm also starting to think shasan would need to be running a background check before giving out loans.

Actually a few days ago I had already warned shasan not to easily give loans to users from the Indonesian local board, considering that there are still many accounts I suspect to be linked through multi-account If situations like this occur I am willing to help by conducting background checks, especially on users from the Indonesian local board. I will not take any advantage of the shasan when he needs that information.

Cases like this are truly dilemmatic, dealing with the wrong person at the wrong time. 

[hugeblack]

I will add negative trust. If the payment address change to Shasan's address is agreed upon, I will temporarily change it to neutral.

Both negative and neutral tag can be given to the user, but the campaign manager will be inform to keep both accounts in campaign so that it will have source to repay shasan...

No, if a campaign manager accepts a negative trust member like this (part of an account farm), the campaign manager should not continue managing campaigns. Please report them in the Reputation section.

Changing his address to Shasan's address, that alone can made him not to be posting on the both accounts, because the payment is not longer going to his wallet...

This is the main reason for changing it to neutral (for debt repayment only).

[NotATether]

How do I respond to an account like this?

I think the following would be a good solution:

1. I'll add negative trust.
2. Those accounts can contact the campaign manager. If the campaign manager agrees, I'll change the negative trust to neutral (provided the payment address is changed to @shasan address).
3. Once the debt is paid, the negative trust will be restored.

Any additional ideas?

How about loan-shark interest rates? Literally apply 10 or 15% interest a week on loans from risky accounts so that they can be tagged sooner if (when? ) they default.

[Xcode7]

I'd like to take this opportunity to clarify the accusations against me personally, as I typically use Google Translate when posting in the gambling section. This same issue also occurred with another user who frequently posts in the economics section, who was also accused of using AI, despite only using Google Translate. So, are these detection tools, particularly three of the seven, truly relevant to this issue? Nearly all posts by users of this forum will be detected as AI-based if checked with two or three of the seven available tools.


And on the other hand, I'd also like to ask the OP, what about your connections with the two or three people below? Is this considered valid since you're already a DT member on the forum?

Subject: ETH address activity associated with AakZaki

I. ETH address: 0xa7802Ba51bA87556263d84cfC235759B214Ccf35



II. POA link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141270.msg21447021#msg21447021



III. Transaction history: https://etherscan.io/address/0xa7802Ba51bA87556263d84cfC235759B214Ccf35

After checking the transactions, I noticed several ETH transfers from this address to other ETH addresses that are publicly linked to different Bitcointalk accounts via POA posts in bounty campaigns.

1)  AakZaki Transfer ETH to: 0x3eA3C2c2186E1F130FaC9CFee0957034A1e504A6



Explanation:

The ETH distribution address that AakZaki sent leads to 2 Bitcointalk account owners, namely Hudadahuda2018 (Jr. Member) with the profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1628534 and Mazda17 (FM) with the profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1147073

TX hash: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xa243c46c1ffb1e4a7598cb089200d0611d7b82f1d790bca3db69dc2cb5074c69
  
What are the results? This ETH address is publicly authenticated by the Bitcointalk user to.

   A. Hudadahuda2018 (Jr. Member) with POA
  


  B. Mazda17 (FM) with POA




2)  AakZaki Transfer ETH to: 0xA3A640b3AeeC02A89127e2c0C96FAB7719EdF631



Explanation:

Brother AakZaki sent the second ETH distribution address to the Bitcointalk account owner, Taqi Ahmad (Newbie) with the profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1572490

TX hash: 0x6c7c3d6e10f9a6108911b18ed0efa90505378ddaf3b39babb7ccf9bfdfdb6cb2

What are the results? This ETH address is publicly authenticated by the Bitcointalk user to.

   A. Taqi Ahmad (Newbie) with POA
  


And with Jems' account, I've never had any dealings with her, except for two merits in the local section of different posts. As for my debt to Shasan, I've always paid it on time and have no dealings with anyone else.

[AakZaki]

And on the other hand, I'd also like to ask the OP, what about your connections with the two or three people below? Is this considered valid since you're already a DT member on the forum?

Subject: ETH address activity associated with AakZaki

I. ETH address: 0xa7802Ba51bA87556263d84cfC235759B214Ccf35
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That is a good question, because I had already expected it to become a counter to me. But do you know that in 2017 I became a verified partner of the Indodax exchange and Binance P2P, which allowed many people from Indonesia to buy and sell crypto with me?
[ZAKY-CELL] Jual Beli Bitcoin - Voucher Indodax - Official P2P Binance - Escrow

JUAL BELI BITCOIN - VOUCHER INDODAX - OFFICIAL P2P BINANCE - ESCROW - PULSA

-snip-

ZakyCell sudah tersedia di binance
jadi bagi kalian yang ingin withdraw dari binance bisa langsung ke rekening kalian melaui pertukaran P2P
kalau belum memahami sistem P2P di binance silahkan tanya disini, nanti akan di pandu oleh OP (bukan ke saya)

https://c2c.binance.com/en

Those are my customers’ accounts who once bought a small amount of ETH for the transaction fees to send the tokens they owned
Mazda17
Hudadahuda2018
Taqi Ahmad

Even an Indonesian moderator @sapta, has previously conducted transactions with me. 

[Xcode7]

Those are my customers’ accounts who once bought a small amount of ETH for the transaction fees to send the tokens they owned
Mazda17
Hudadahuda2018
Taqi Ahmad

Even an Indonesian moderator @sapta, has previously conducted transactions with me. 

If you can say that, why don't you think that I and others do the same?
I sold to others and bought ETH back in the day for transaction fees, and many people do the same, so why do you assume we're connected?

[Satofan44]

Those are my customers’ accounts who once bought a small amount of ETH for the transaction fees to send the tokens they owned
Mazda17
Hudadahuda2018
Taqi Ahmad

Even an Indonesian moderator @sapta, has previously conducted transactions with me.  

If you can say that, why don't you think that I and others do the same?
I sold to others and bought ETH back in the day for transaction fees, and many people do the same, so why do you assume we're connected?

Nobody is going to believe your nonsense -- you just made up a lie which reduces your credibility to zero. You have been busted. It is better to come clean, that is the only way to have a chance to ever redeem yourself. Otherwise your account is pretty much dead, no more signature campaign farming for you at least not from this account.

But do you know that in 2017 I became a verified partner of the Indodax exchange and Binance P2P, which allowed many people from Indonesia to buy and sell crypto with me?

If you can be a verified partner, then I can also be one just by saying so.   How dumb are these 3rd world idiots?

[Xcode7]

Those are my customers’ accounts who once bought a small amount of ETH for the transaction fees to send the tokens they owned
Mazda17
Hudadahuda2018
Taqi Ahmad

Even an Indonesian moderator @sapta, has previously conducted transactions with me.  

If you can say that, why don't you think that I and others do the same?
I sold to others and bought ETH back in the day for transaction fees, and many people do the same, so why do you assume we're connected?

Nobody is going to believe your nonsense -- you just made up a lie which reduces your credibility to zero. You have been busted. It is better to come clean, that is the only way to have a chance to ever redeem yourself. Otherwise your account is pretty much dead, no more signature campaign farming for you at least not from this account.

But do you know that in 2017 I became a verified partner of the Indodax exchange and Binance P2P, which allowed many people from Indonesia to buy and sell crypto with me?

If you can be a verified partner, then I can also be one just by saying so.   How dumb are these 3rd world idiots?

Who are you?
Are you normal?
You'd better live longer so you can think clearly, or you could buy your parents' brains so you won't talk as you please.
I see you're new here and you're talking a lot as if you're smart.
Are you even human?
Or are you just a dog whose master gave you a bone, making you talk so much.

[dkbit98]

Connection between this accounts is obvious, and it's interesting that one of the members quickly decided to the same thing for OP with counter attack.
Someone said that attack is the best defense, but not to in all cases

If you can say that, why don't you think that I and others do the same?
I sold to others and bought ETH back in the day for transaction fees, and many people do the same, so why do you assume we're connected?

He clearly showed the proof for his claim, with his previous posts.
Can you do the same thing?

[Rikafip]

Connection between this accounts is obvious, and it's interesting that one of the members quickly decided to the same thing for OP with counter attack.
Someone said that attack is the best defense, but not to in all cases

On bitcointalk it usually means people finding several more alts, so smartest thing that those alt farmers can do is to stay low.