Satofan44 (nullius?): biggest moron on Bitcointalk

[mikeywith]

.why do you care?  There only legitimate reason to care about linking alts is some type of fraud:  Financial fraud (e.g., taking multiple slots in the same signature campaign), social fraud (sockpuppeting to fake social validation of your opinions), etc.  Otherwise, the intrepid alt-hunters are either spies who hate privacy, or batshit crazy obsessive paranoiacs who see faces in the clouds, and messages from space aliens in static on TV.

I genuinely believe they do this out of self-interest, for merit, recognition, and sometimes in the hope of becoming a moderator of some sort. I think these people are the kids who used to snitch to their teachers when they were just little cunts

I haven't interacted with "Free Market Capitalist", and I don't exactly remember my interactions with "Poker Player", but I do remember that persona, and my impression of him was that he was a dick (perhaps a cunt, in the context of your message).

As for accusing nullius of being "Satofan44", I highly doubt it, because Satofan44 is indeed both boring and a cunt, whereas nullius is generally interesting.

[Meretrix]

why do you care?  There only legitimate reason to care about linking alts is some type of fraud

I genuinely believe they do this out of self-interest, for merit, recognition, and sometimes in the hope of becoming a moderator of some sort. I think these people are the kids who used to snitch to their teachers when they were just little cunts

Well said.

I haven't interacted with "Free Market Capitalist", and I don't exactly remember my interactions with "Poker Player", [...]

To be clear, it’s the same account (same uid) that changed names.  This is proved by the web.archive.org snapshots that I linked.  And gets its panties in a twist about others’ various names, real or imagined?

As for accusing nullius of being "Satofan44", I highly doubt it, because Satofan44 is indeed both boring and a cunt, whereas nullius is generally interesting.

Thank you graciously.  My only potential objection:  Is Satofan44 truly a cunt?  Cunts are sweet, and I have neither investigated nor quantified (nor tasted) Satofan44’s level of sweetness, or lack thereof.

As for nully, your flattery will get you everywhere, honey.  I’m a whore, after all, and must live up to my name.

For the record, nullius has neither admitted nor denied being Satofan44’s alt.  As is known to forum members who have interacted with him before, his policy is never to admit or deny such allegations.  However, nullius stipulates that he is a cunt.

Signed with nullius’ PGP key:

Code:

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I’m a cunt, and a whore, too.

For the social good, let’s please *reclaim* these words
so they can no longer hurt people.

I never really *wasn’t* of this opinion.  It was a part of
what I was trying to say when, in the original “nullius is a cunt”
thread, I posted a famous fine-art painting of a cunt that was
wrongly censored by a moderator:
[⚠ WARNING TO PRUDES WHO HATE THE HUMAN BODY: Painting of a cunt.]
https://www.musee-orsay.fr/en/artworks/lorigine-du-monde-69330
[Not “Not Safe For Work” if you work as a meretrix!]

I had the picture, but not the thousand words.

As the world has moved in the opposite direction, I’ve
studied these issues, and come better to understand them.

Therefore, I stipulate that I am a cunt.
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[libert19]

-snipie

Campaign manager of anonchange (whose signature nullius is wearing) just forgot one rule to add, 'campaign manager reserves right to bend rules at his own discretion'.

Rules are rules and it should be respected otherwise the service will be considered as untrustworthy and the manager too. They are dealing with money, how can we trust them if they don't follow their own rules?

Right that's why I said what I said (refer to quote), CM just forgot one rule to add which would have nullified other rules and would have made hiring nullius in their campaign ok.

On note, I noticed you used  -snipie for snipped text. Not sure how I feel about it but I noticed and I want you to know that I noticed.

You mentioned eager to collect money. Well if you can collect $50 a week, then this could be considered as a good revenue in some countries with low wages. Satanfanius is most likely from a fifth world country so losing his side job will force him to find another trick.

(referring to italic part) I didn't mention anything like that. I meant to say, wouldn't people with as good as technical knowledge as Satofan44 or nullius for that matter would be having better means to capitalize on their knowledge than to join signature campaigns. It was a rhetorical question since I feel with that kinda knowledge, you certainly can get a gig with better pay than signature payments which tops at $400 a month for majority of users and in best case scenario.

This was my comment:

I wonder people with that good of a technical knowledge, wouldn't they be having better means to capitalize on their knowledge than to join signature campaigns?

If he was clever and busy enough, he wouldn't lose his time insulting people and risking his career.

For some people, having security also does that to you.

Rules are rules and it should be respected otherwise the service will be considered as untrustworthy and the manager too. They are dealing with money, how can we trust them if they don't follow their own rules?

Please do not defame my CM.  What you say is absurd.  If you have a problem with me, take it up with me (in which case, I’ll ignore you because you’re not worth it).

(referring to italic part) Another reason why this guy is not Satofan44, cause Satofan44 would get on with anybody, everybody.

Anyone who reads the math and crypto literature knows that numbers don’t care about gender; I routinely see papers by woman professors who are so much smarter than I am, it hurts my brain to read their work.

...And here is me, who finds meself dumb when I read your content.

On irrelevant note, I learned to anchor text from your posting although I haven't tried yet. I always appreciated it on websites, never knew you could do it here too.

.why do you care?  There only legitimate reason to care about linking alts is some type of fraud:  Financial fraud (e.g., taking multiple slots in the same signature campaign), social fraud (sockpuppeting to fake social validation of your opinions), etc.  Otherwise, the intrepid alt-hunters are either spies who hate privacy, or batshit crazy obsessive paranoiacs who see faces in the clouds, and messages from space aliens in static on TV.

I genuinely believe they do this out of self-interest, for merit, recognition, and sometimes in the hope of becoming a moderator of some sort. I think these people are the kids who used to snitch to their teachers when they were just little cunts

I'll do you better, it's for signature quota. I swear man, people bash gambling board for shitposting meanwhile, I find Reputation board same, it's just different kinda shitposting and comparatively better.

As for accusing nullius of being "Satofan44", I highly doubt it, because Satofan44 is indeed both boring and a cunt, whereas nullius is generally interesting.

I wouldn't call Satofan44 boring, but you do you, plus Satofan44 has made you read his content so you could rate him to, boring and cunt — which is an achievement in itself.

I haven't interacted with "Free Market Capitalist", and I don't exactly remember my interactions with "Poker Player", [...]

To be clear, it’s the same account (same uid) that changed names.  This is proved by the web.archive.org snapshots that I linked.

It is and nobody is denying it (including op).

As for accusing nullius of being "Satofan44", I highly doubt it, because Satofan44 is indeed both boring and a cunt, whereas nullius is generally interesting.

Thank you graciously.  My only potential objection:  Is Satofan44 truly a cunt?  Cunts are sweet, and I have neither investigated nor quantified (nor tasted) Satofan44’s level of sweetness, or lack thereof.

Well, his posts are there to see.

Personally, I'd rate Satofan44 asshole generally, but if you'd flatter him, then he would become a cunt which is comparatively better (please, don't bring physical anatomy into this for how this is possible).


Regarding op re-opening the thread because s/he thinks nullius is Satofan44 — I feel that, unless one has concrete evidence, stop throwing accusations around and stop wasting people's time. If people could have clarity about their actions, how little they would act.

Edit: Typo

[Free Market Capitalist]

Lol. What a lovely thread this is turning out to be. I've got Satofan44 on my ignore list, as well as libert19, Xiestar, DireWolfM14, that moron nullius, and I'm going to put Meretrix on ignore too for being a retard.

I genuinely believe they do this out of self-interest, for merit, recognition, and sometimes in the hope of becoming a moderator of some sort.

As far as I know, what matters most when it comes to becoming a moderator is the number of reports you submit. Plus, that idiot you're quoting doesn't seem to get that I'm not an alt hunter. I've never found any alts.

It doesn't matter if nullius and Satofan44 are alts—though I'd be curious to know—the point is that they're just as much of a moron.

What a lot of people here forget is that a forum is meant to be entertaining, and this is the thread I've enjoyed the most since I signed up.

I called the biggest moron on the forum a moron when no one else dared to, even though he had positive feedback on his profile. I made fun of him and his big ego, and I got him to disappear.

[libert19]

I called the biggest moron on the forum a moron when no one else dared to, even though he had positive feedback on his profile. I made fun of him and his big ego, and I got him to disappear.

Sounds like delusion.

[mindrust]

The whole forum was making fun of satoturd dafuq are you talking about? Most people didn't even take him seriously enough to create any fuss about him that's all. People put him on ignore and moved on. Do you seriously think you ought to receive praise just because you did the unimaginable?

Putting him on ignore and not responding to his bullcrap was the biggest threat to his schemes, creating this thread wasn't. If it did anything, it fed him even more.

This topic did create some good discussion though... This is the reputation board in the end. Here, we diskuss reputation.

[snipie]

Rules are rules and it should be respected otherwise the service will be considered as untrustworthy and the manager too. They are dealing with money, how can we trust them if they don't follow their own rules?

Please do not defame my CM.  What you say is absurd.  If you have a problem with me, take it up with me (in which case, I’ll ignore you because you’re not worth it).  Smear-attacking other people because you hate me is a cowardly and disgusting.

Any CM will attest that whatever happened to have me wearing this signature is ordinary, and anyone who’s sane will see it’s harmless.

I will not discuss it further; it’s none of your business.

This will be my only post in this thread with my main account.  It is beneath me to post in such dumpster fires—at least, with my main account.

I repeat, rules are rules. There is no hate, no hidden messages behind these simple words.
 I don't have a problem with members respecting the forum and the other members here.
I will keep an eye on shady behaviours and you are free to wear whatever you want for free. If there is payments involved then it should be transparent since it is a collective one.
You have the total/partial control of the account, you might have extended access to it. This will not give you a green light to do whatever you want.
I feel sorry for some forum members falling in the trap so easily.

[Meretrix]

Anyone who reads the math and crypto literature knows that numbers don’t care about gender; I routinely see papers by woman professors who are so much smarter than I am, it hurts my brain to read their work.

...And here is me, who finds meself dumb when I read your content.

Hey, let’s snuggle up, watch a movie, and feel dumb together!  No matter what gender you may be (I assume nothing), the Meretrix is flexible.

Rarely do I ever recommend any videos, except porn.  But I suggest watching at least the first 20 minutes of this cryptography video, which can be downloaded easily by NoJS users; I assure you, it will make us feel mutually stupid:

LatticeHacks
Fun with lattices in cryptography and cryptanalysis

djb, Tanja Lange and Nadia Heninger

65 min 2017-12-28 2017-12-29

All three people on stage are professors of cryptography, 2/3 are women, and the younger woman has a scary history of (whitehat) mass-scanning and breaking keys in the wild.  She made the security news by breaking a bunch of webservers’ RSA keys, she publicly codiscovered the Logjam attack on finite field Diffie-Hellman which we guess NSA had probably been secretly using to break VPNs, etc.  Oh, watch out:  She’s done cryptanalytic research on keys on the Bitcoin blockchain.

Keep in mind:  This video is these cryptographers’ presentation to the public, in which they attempt to simplify their explanations for laypeople.  If you really want a bruised brain, look up their academic writings.

I genuinely believe they do this out of self-interest, for merit, recognition, and sometimes in the hope of becoming a moderator of some sort. I think these people are the kids who used to snitch to their teachers when they were just little cunts

I'll do you better, it's for signature quota. I swear man, people bash gambling board for shitposting meanwhile, I find Reputation board same, it's just different kinda shitposting and comparatively better.

Wow, am I doing it all wrong!  Please help a signature campaign newbie here.  It seems I have no talent for signature campaigns.

I don’t want to deprive AnonChange (onion, PGP-signed URL list to prevent phishing, PGP key) of advertising.  I purposely use an alt account in this topic, because I want to represent my signature campaign well.  With my main account, wearing a paid signature, I want to try to make serious, focused posts.  And if my CM reviews my posts, I don’t want them to need to wade through a pile of shitposts in a dumpster-fire troll thread.

For you see, I’m a whore—and whores need to be ethical.  After all, in jurisdictions where it’s repressed by law such as this forum’s USA location, whoring is purely a trust-based business.  You^{(any generic “you”)} must hand a girl money up front, with no explicit agreement that she’ll give you anything but an hour of her time.  It needs to be that way, because a sex-for-money agreement is illegal prostitution.

If you say what you really want, she must assume that you’re a cop; if she says any offer of what you really want, you must assume that she’s a cop.  Neither of you can discuss it.  Undercover police bust people who violate this rule.

Accordingly, whores work on reputation.  Green trust (= cash USD bills) means that a girl has a reputation for being extremely slutty:  You trust that if you hire her simply to spend an hour alone with you in a hotel room—which is legal—then independently of the money, she’ll most likely choose to have sex with you—which is also legal; it’s 100% legal to be a slut who enjoys casual sex with strangers, even five or more times per day with different people.  Legally, she would fulfill her agreement by sitting there with her clothes on, and staring at the wall for an hour.  If she doesn’t want sexual intercourse, you have no legal recourse to get a refund.  It’s all about reputation!

(YMMV by jurisdiction.  I am speaking only of the forum’s USA jurisdiction.  It varies wildly around the world.)

Meretrix is a fictional character, blurred into my pen name for erotica.  I hereby discuss these hypotheticals only as political commentary and social critique.  There is absolutely zero chance that I’m insinuating any advertisement that could in any way be alleged to violate SESTA/FOSTA.

To be clear, it’s the same account (same uid) that changed names.

It is and nobody is denying it (including op).

I found the relevant thread after I posted about something I’d noticed myself.  (Just stating this for the record; it’s unimportant.)

Is Satofan44 truly a cunt?  Cunts are sweet, and I have neither investigated nor quantified (nor tasted) Satofan44’s level of sweetness, or lack thereof.

Personally, I'd rate Satofan44 asshole generally, but if you'd flatter him, then he would become a cunt which is comparatively better (please, don't bring physical anatomy into this for how this is possible).

Ah, but you are coy!  The Meretrix account was created for the purpose of unfolding an erotic fictional story about a Rule 34 cryptocurrency sexual fetish.  Cryptography gets me hot—and I like to get hashed hard, please.

As to your (non-)implied question (which I’ll bat my eyelashes and pretend you implied), I have different QR codes in temporary tattoos on front- and backsides, as you can see...

* Meretrix shows libert19 her front- and backsides.

...thus, to distinguish between cunt and asshole, decide which you want (or both), scan QR code(s), and send funds.  I will be open to you after blockchain confirmation—no zero-conf!

My bodily orifice QR codes are currently Zcash shielded addresses, because “AML checks” and “risk scores” make Bitcoin UTXOs a huge turn-off.

On irrelevant note, I learned to anchor text from your posting although I haven't tried yet. I always appreciated it on websites, never knew you could do it here too.

I think they should be a more standard feature.  Alas, so few people care about a precise link; I think that for the most part, only scholars care, just as scholars have always had traditions for more or less precise citations within a text (page number, footnote number, etc.).  It’s hot when someone cares about this.


Anatomically Suggestive Art

As a C programmer, I’ve always fancied that this looks like a cunt—to be precise, a shaved vulva spread in a beaver-shot pose:

()
nullius (u=976210), actual photo #nulldox

NSFW image in violation of forum rules.
Report it to the moderator, bitches!

Does anyone ever imagine what would have happened on this forum, if alia hadn’t been a scam, and allegedly-she and nully had kept up what they were doing?  I can imagine.  I created the Meretrix account partly for the purpose of replacing alia.  As noted in the account’s first post (2018-03-13), the name Meretrix is drawn from my ill-starred first contact with alia (2018-02-16).  Dare to imagine!


In re death_wish (u=3474542)

Idly scrolling back further in this thread, I just noticed this:

Nullius has tried to create multiple alts in the past.  One called Deathwish and another called Ploni Almoni come to mind, but there were probably more that are escaping me at the moment.  Nullius has such a distinct personality that his alts are almost instantly recognizable.  Not that it matters much.  I never thought of him as the type to generate alts for any nefarious reasons, he has too much respect for the forum to do that.  To risk speculating about someone else's intentions, I always thought that his alts were an attempt to get a fresh start without the stigma he created around his main account.  Except for Deathwish, which was used to troll the people who tagged the nullius account.

I’ve always had a strict policy^* never to admit or deny others’ speculation about what alt accounts I may or may not have (or be).  This is consistent with all of my behaviour since February 2018, when I first started to get this type of speculation.  (I cited and linked an early example here, but cut it to avoid dredging up a feud between two other parties who later made peace (L/Q).)  Accordingly, I neither admit nor deny my connection to any of the above-named accounts.

That being said, I observe that your last statement does not accord with post history.  death_wish (u=3474542) appeared during a Bitcoin market crash in the Wall Observer (WO), to cry and to scream about losing their collateral bitcoins on a liquidated margin trading account.  According to my recollection (I’d need to read post history to be sure), the account mostly or only posted in WO.  Its first post:

Now, I want to kill myself... or at least, take up alcoholism as a hobby.

[...] While I was trying to place a sell order for just enough to avoid liquidation, the liquidator bot beat me to it.  I watched helplessly as my bitcoins disappeared from my account. [...]

It seems obvious that in a potentially suicidal state of mind, someone created an alt to vent emotionally about embarrassing financial problems, which are embarrassing—and public discussion of which also violates privacy, by leaking financial information.  I see no evidence that the account was created with a motive to troll anyone.  Do you have any, DireWolfM14?  Evidence is hot, Wolfie.   (An unevidenced claim that the account was made to troll is not hot, though I could cope with it by getting out my dominatrix whip.)

WO regular JayJuanGee non-hostilely seemed, and still seems to suspect that death_wish may be me.  I have no comment, save to note that whoever death_wish is, they should be flattered that their fantastically stupid margin-trading disaster helped to inspire JJG’s sustainable withdrawal thread—which is definitely hot.

* Meretrix giggles at the term “sustainable withdrawal”.  Is that like pulling out for a money-shot? 

^* When I create an alt to work together with my main account, I openly acknowledge it.  The nullius and Meretrix accounts have always had mutual neutral trust feedback acknowledging the connection, such that if I talk to myself between accounts, everyone should understand honestly that I’m putting on a show.

Shitposting timewaster, GTFO.

Rules are rules and it should be respected otherwise the service will be considered as untrustworthy and the manager too. They are dealing with money, how can we trust them if they don't follow their own rules?

Please do not defame my CM.  What you say is absurd.  If you have a problem with me, take it up with me (in which case, I’ll ignore you because you’re not worth it).  Smear-attacking other people because you hate me is a cowardly and disgusting.

Any CM will attest that whatever happened to have me wearing this signature is ordinary, and anyone who’s sane will see it’s harmless.

I will not discuss it further; it’s none of your business.

This will be my only post in this thread with my main account.  It is beneath me to post in such dumpster fires—at least, with my main account.

I repeat, rules are rules. There is no hate, no hidden messages behind these simple words.
 I don't have a problem with members respecting the forum and the other members here.
I will keep an eye on shady behaviours and you are free to wear whatever you want for free. If there is payments involved then it should be transparent since it is a collective one.
You have the total/partial control of the account, you might have extended access to it. This will not give you a green light to do whatever you want.
I feel sorry for some forum members falling in the trap so easily.

Oooh, a self-appointed authority dictating “rules are rules”.

Payments are none of your business, unless the parties ever have a public dispute I don’t expect.  All that I will reveal, and only to brag, is that I had multiple offers for my main account’s signature—and my CM was outbid by another CM.  I stuck with this campaign, because I’d already put on the signature—and I like the look of the new site; I want to give them a chance to prove themselves to the community.

There exist many private business deals, which are not “transparent” to the public—and not only on this forum; I mean in business generally.  It is the ordinary course of business.  And it’s none of your business.  If you don’t know that, then despite your account’s age, you are a newbie who knows nothing about business.

Moreover, please clarify:  What do you mean by “[y]ou have the total/partial control of the account, you might have extended access to it”?  Has anyone accused me of not being in full control of my main account?  If so, it is false unless there is a security issue unknown to me and outside of my control (such as a php2shell compromise of the server).

Signed with nullius’ PGP key:

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To the best of my knowledge, I am in exclusive control of
the nullius account (u=976210).

I flatly reject the questions, contentions, demands, and
“rules are rules” as stated by snipie (u=550315) in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5569989.msg67293637#msg67293637

I am not answerable to them.
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I am disinclined to reply to you any further, shitposting troll.

[DireWolfM14]

That being said, I observe that your last statement does not accord with post history.  death_wish (u=3474542) appeared during a Bitcoin market crash in the Wall Observer (WO), to cry and to scream about losing their collateral bitcoins on a liquidated margin trading account.  According to my recollection (I’d need to read post history to be sure), the account mostly or only posted in WO.  Its first post:

Now, I want to kill myself... or at least, take up alcoholism as a hobby.

[...] While I was trying to place a sell order for just enough to avoid liquidation, the liquidator bot beat me to it.  I watched helplessly as my bitcoins disappeared from my account. [...]

I stand half corrected.

It seems obvious that in a potentially suicidal state of mind...

Well, I'm glad to see you alive and well.  And if by some small chance the alt isn't yours, I hope the real slim shady is also alive and well.

I see no evidence that the account was created with a motive to troll anyone.  Do you have any, DireWolfM14?  Evidence is hot, Wolfie.

With little interest in digging through the forum for evidence of less significance, and yet less of a desire to reopen old flame wars, I'll just defer to my default "Yes, dear, obviously I'm wrong and your right" answer.  Besides, arguing with a bitch may make a cunt out of me, and that's the last thing I want.

(An unevidenced claim that the account was made to troll is not hot, though I could cope with it by getting out my dominatrix whip.)

Careful there, you're treading awfully close to sounding like Foxpup.  You're going to give the pea-brain that started this thread an aneurysm if you keep that up.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Well, I think it's about time to lock this thread again—I hope this time it's for good. It's been fun, but this is what I usually see when I come here:




Satofan44 is already gone, and it looks like he's not coming back. As for nullius—whether or not it's the same person—even with a different persona, he seems just as much of a moron. I'll leave it at that.