Are casino TOS another “hidden house edge”?

[Z_MBFM]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

In fact, most players do not follow the ToS and do not waste their time reading it. Especially those who are on-time players, but those who decide to use a site for a long time, then they read its ToS. And when someone faces a problem and cannot find a solution to it, then they read the ToS and see if there is a ToS violation. Gambling is something where one cannot contain their excitement so no one wants to waste a single minute of their time without playing the game.

[salad daging]

ToS in casinos to prevent abuse of bonuses, bets and other practices, so with the existence of this ToS, casinos can protect themselves from many accusations, on the one hand, many players ignore the ToS so that they never read it, sometimes ToS in casinos are now almost the same.

Problems in casinos can be complex, there are also players who break the rules but they don't want to admit their mistakes, on the one hand the casino will also continue to defend itself against investigations that are done properly.

Now there are many platforms that accommodate many complaints to casinos, some of which can be overcome and some that cannot.

[KTChampions]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

This is a two-way street, as if a casino doesn't enforce the ToS, it will quickly be ruined by bonus hunters and various scammers using stolen credit cards or dirty crypto. But in turn if a casino abuses its position as the final authority (as stated in all ToS) in dispute resolution, it will quickly lose its reputation and be left without customers. I rarely read the ToS, if I did and took it seriously, I would never be a client anywhere  To be a normal client, simple common sense is enough for me.

[Odohu]

I don't think this information is right because there is no way casino TOS will be a hidden house edge. The TOS were not written against the gamblers, they are written as policy document to state the does and don't of every platform. TOS is not limited to gambling, many things we do have rules and that is just how I see the TOS of casinos. I think you need to go back to learn what the term "house edge" is so that you will stop thinking that the TOS are written to make players lose their money.

[serjent05]

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

I also see that the ToS is another house edge.  These terms and condition protects the casino from exploits, so everything written on the casino is favoring the casino and prevents them to face problems if they act against the player who they think is violating their terms of service.

In fact, most players do not follow the ToS and do not waste their time reading it.

Most players do not read ToS yes, but I disagree that most players do not follow the ToS.  If players don't follow the ToS, their account will be banned and possibly funds confiscated, but we can't find such huge amount of cases where the majority of players' account are suspended due to breach of ToS.

[gunhell16]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

don't see the TOS as being remotely similar to the house edge. In my view, the TOS is a set of guidelines for anyone entering a casino. It acts as a roadmap, giving players direction on how to conduct themselves on the platform.

You could even call it the 'commandments' of gambling a clear guide on what is allowed and what is forbidden. Unfortunately, many gamblers still choose to disregard these terms even today.

[LUCKMCFLY]

For me, the rules can represent a house advantage, of course they do, they are their rules, but in each promotion different rules are created from those already in place, of course it will always favor the house, but it is our choice as players what we are going to choose to play.

[TypoTonic]

For me, the rules can represent a house advantage, of course they do, they are their rules, but in each promotion different rules are created from those already in place, of course it will always favor the house, but it is our choice as players what we are going to choose to play.

It's also not "hidden" at all, so the title doesn't really make sense, players are just too lazy when it comes to reading stuff like that. Problems usually arise if the casinos terms are too vague, and in some cases, both parties try to use some loopholes to take advantage of the ToS in their favor. But the thing is, people always have the option not to play if they don't like the terms, and they can just choose to go to a different casino that they would prefer.

[Z-tight]

I do not think that it is only casinos that are guilty of this. These services know that people do not even read their terms of service, so they curate it in such a way that it favors them and bails them out of so many situations, many times even when it has to do with paying out winnings. So i guess it could actually be another house edge for many casinos.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

99.9% of the people just tick the I read ToS check box without reading and they will realize some rules are exists only after the casino void their bets or locked their account and started creaming they are scammers when they have made the mistake from the other side. Yes, casino got some rules that benefits them but it is our responsibility again to know all those things and not to do anything that is against their terms.

You are right, that's what I said too, that huge number of gamblers do not know the a ToS of the casino they are using until they have encountered a big issue, some players even make scam accusation againt a casino but they are don't know that they broke the casino's rule which is why they lock their account because of non charlatan character of not reading ToS.

[Sanitough]

For me, the rules can represent a house advantage, of course they do, they are their rules, but in each promotion different rules are created from those already in place, of course it will always favor the house, but it is our choice as players what we are going to choose to play.

It's also not "hidden" at all, so the title doesn't really make sense. Players are just usually too lazy when it comes to reading. Problems usually arise if the casinos terms are too vague. In some cases, both parties try to use some loopholes to take advantage of the ToS in their favor. If people only read the terms properly, they can just choose not to play if the terms are bad, and go with a different casino.

Let’s just say it’s hidden for those who don’t read the TOS and only find out later that their winnings are affected because of a violation. It could also be that they read the rules but interpret them differently from how the casino does.

Those are just the things that come to my mind.

[Hypnosis00]

The ToS may be harsh for us gamblers, but it would be a vital tool for the casino's protection from abusive attacks. And it is normal because they want to keep their business running.

Unfortunately, we never find it convenient. That is the problem because we all wanted the rules to favor us rather than the casino, which I believe was wrong. It is accepting the fact that this is made for us gamblers to behave as casinos want us to be. So it's up to us whether to follow or not.

We have an option.

[Hispo]

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So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

Terms of service are not exclusive to casinos, that is what people around here sometimes seem to forget about, they exist pretty much in any business and company which provide services to clients and costumers, and they are designed so people get informed on what they can and cannot with the services provided.

In general, people have this idea of casinos abusing their terms of services, because nobody reads them until it is too late and they have already gotten in trouble with the administration of the service itself.

[alegotardo]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

My honest opinion about tihs? welll... I do not think the TOS is a "hidden house advantage", but the problem is that nobody reads them... many people do not read them because they believe it is just a "formality" or a necessity for casino regulation, but by doing so they end up not noticing certain limits or problems that may exist in one casino but not in another. I am not going to say that TOS is a problem, but I've see many of them that were written to be, in a way, "unfair by definition", others are written in a very "illegible" or complicated way, anyway.... this is something that everyone should read.

An example? The Multi accounts... sometimes if you use an account casino together with your brohter that lives in the same house as you (under the same IP) you may have problems.

Another example? KYC, many say they may request additional documents at any time, but they do not say what those documents are, and sometimes a poorly lit selfie is enough reason for you to lose $10,000 in winnings. That is really unfair, but sometimes you find it in the TOS in a very subjective way.

There is no way around it, everyone needs to read the TOS, and if you do not want to read the whole thing, read the main points or ask an AI to summarize and/or find problems in the TOS that could cause you issues.

[Davidvictorson]

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

TOS is an online casino's defence against court cases or whatever regulations there may be. In my estimation, it is less of the gambler but more of the casino operators. The terms of service is like a contract and sadly most gamblers don't take the time out to read it. And the casino will not send you a reminder or a nudge to read it either. This is why I recommend taking the lazy approach if you don't want to read the TOS just use their chat box or email to ask your questions to their representative and they usually really.

[Jody.Drummer]

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

TOS are created to prevent casinos from going bankrupt due to cheating players. Yes, it sounds like it benefits them, but it's also impossible for a casino not to have TOS.
Most players who violate the TOS never read it, I also don’t read all of it, just the important parts, because this is also to protect players from harmful things, for example, dishonest casinos since not all casinos can be trusted.

All running casinos certainly have their own tos, and yes it is shown to avoid players who cheat in gambling such as being able to get a sure win. I myself when gambling at new casinos that I find I very rarely take the time to read the tos, but I have never committed an offense that harms the casino, it's just that on the other hand I have found cases where my winnings are not paid and whether it's because I violated the rules or indeed those who do not intend to give winnings to their players.

[junder]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

Benefiting the casino and harming the player is a natural thing in my opinion because in this case they play the role of host and yes the host has control over everything, can even make players who have won so they don't get a win. I myself do not feel harmed by this, because yes in my opinion it is not unusual.
I myself would say yes, saying the Terms and Conditions of Service are really designed as an additional benefit for the casino, it's a very, very reasonable thing.

[Oasisman]

Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

Not really, I think it is created to protect the house/casino from false claims and accusations. Most players don't even care about reading the whole TOS. Some people only read whether you need to pass the KYC procedure or if their country is prohibited from using the platform, and then proceed to skip everything after learning these two.
I could also say that it's a trap for those players who choose to ignore it. If I'm not mistaken, the TOS will be reviewed by the regulators to make sure everything is legally fair for both the casino and the players, so I don't think it will be a "house-edge", it's not something they can earn or make a profit from.

Therefore, I can say it's more of the player's lapses than a casino trick. These only apply to the trusted and established online casinos, some use the TOS against the players because they are scams.

[Outhue]

Some gamblers think that a casino’s Terms of Service is just another form of house edge. The rules are always against the player, and sometimes people end up in trouble without even realizing they already violated something in the TOS.

So is this mindset actually correct, or is the real issue that they didn’t choose the right casino to gamble with in the first place?

If you’re active in the Gambling board and especially in Scam Accusations, you’ll notice a pattern. Most gamblers who run into problems are there because they violated the TOS, whether intentionally or not.

So how do you see this?
Are TOS really designed as an extra edge for casinos, or are gamblers just ignoring the rules until it’s too late?

Wouldn't be unfair if the ToS that a casino wrote up themselves are more beneficial to their customers? It's their business and they have all the right to make it more beneficial to them than their customers, people ask for too much and they never stopped asking for more, today many gamblers are still fudding some casinos because of losses that was supposed to turn into wins..

Some casinos use their ToS against gamblers, that's correct but that's why gamblers need to read through casinos ToS before they start gambling on the platform, abide by their rules and regulations, make sure you don't break them then you will be fine, I have never run into a weird problem from casinos and then they use their ToS against me, it has never happened and I believe that's because I was doing everything right.

[freedomgo]

some use the TOS against the players because they are scams.

Even if they’re scams, the TOS usually won’t look scammy at all. Most of the time they still look standard, similar to what you see on legit casinos. The real problem with scam casinos isn’t the TOS itself, it’s how they implement it. They apply it in a way that’s the opposite of what’s written, and that’s where the scamming really happens.