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[gunhell16]

What countries are restricted?

Let me quote what I saw in their terms of service. The United States of America Obviously always never missed appearing on the list

2.1. Legal requirements
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You are not allowed to register on the Website and use our services if you are a resident of Australia, Austria, Comoros, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom, USA, all FATF Blacklisted countries, and/or any other jurisdiction deemed prohibited by Anjouan Offshore Financial Authority. We reserve the right to refuse customers from any other countries over and above the aforementioned jurisdictions at our own discretion.

2.4. By registering the Account on the Website you undertake, declare and warrant that:
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You are not resident in Australia, Austria, Comoros, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom, USA, all FATF Blacklisted countries, and/or any other jurisdictions deemed prohibited by Anjouan Offshore Financial Authority.

It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

Does this mean that aside from the countries already listed, they might add more restricted countries in the future? What happens if someone creates an account because their country wasn't restricted yet, but then it suddenly gets restricted down the line? How does that work? Wouldn't the fault lie with the casino then, and not the user who made the account?

[Zoomic]

It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

This could mean that, just as we are discussing in this thread now, your country might be included in the restricted countries. So for the fact that they were not mentioned from onset doesn't mean the restrictions doesn't apply to them.
So it is the duty of the player to stay informed and check the list of restricted countries as it is been updated.

But I don't think that is a big of a problem if your country isn't restricted yet.

[Numeral]

It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

Does this mean that aside from the countries already listed, they might add more restricted countries in the future? What happens if someone creates an account because their country wasn't restricted yet, but then it suddenly gets restricted down the line? How does that work? Wouldn't the fault lie with the casino then, and not the user who made the account?

Most likely, this refers to the possibility of changes in the policies of countries themselves in relation to all online casinos or specific ones. After all, there are many countries in the world, and their legislation often undergoes all kinds of changes. Therefore, if something changes in one of the countries not included in the list, perhaps they will prohibit their citizens from using online casinos, then that country will be added to the list. This is a perfectly logical explanation.

[Potato Chips]

It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

Does this mean that aside from the countries already listed, they might add more restricted countries in the future? What happens if someone creates an account because their country wasn't restricted yet, but then it suddenly gets restricted down the line? How does that work? Wouldn't the fault lie with the casino then, and not the user who made the account?

I always assume clauses from terms of service or any fine prints can change, and that included prohibited countries—they may add or they may remove some. I tend to find clauses where the company reserve the right to make changes on their terms or service as well.

Though, I would say any reputable platform—who cares about their reputation— would give time for the user to sort his/her business if their country which was once supported ended being part of the prohibited ones. This is why it's important to pick a good platform esp with big amounts at stake.

[EarnOnVictor]

Wagering requirement is fair but min withdrawal is high.
But is the min withdrawal applicable only to the winning from the $1 free bet?
If I fund my account normally, will that still be the min withdrawal?

That money is completely free, and the motive is to actually test the betting platform, and not for the fast withdrawal. The minimum requirement should be nothing if the true intention is to get acquainted with the platform, rather than the money withdrawal. That's the main motive though.

However, this is practical, different bonuses, different Ts&Cs, so it's good to read the conditions for each bonus offered, they can't always be the same requirements, which goes for funding one's account with or without bonus attachment.

[Zoomic]

Wagering requirement is fair but min withdrawal is high.
But is the min withdrawal applicable only to the winning from the $1 free bet?
If I fund my account normally, will that still be the min withdrawal?

That money is completely free, and the motive is to actually test the betting platform, and not for the fast withdrawal. The minimum requirement should be nothing if the true intention is to get acquainted with the platform, rather than the money withdrawal. That's the main motive though.

However, this is practical, different bonuses, different Ts&Cs, so it's good to read the conditions for each bonus offered, they can't always be the same requirements, which goes for funding one's account with or without bonus attachment.

Thanks for clarification.
If that money was actually for testing the platform, withdrawing it should be something so secondary and then it doesn't really matter the wagering requirements.
Yea, there are different bonuses with different applicable conditions.

[Ojima-ojo]

Wagering requirement is fair but min withdrawal is high.
But is the min withdrawal applicable only to the winning from the $1 free bet?
If I fund my account normally, will that still be the min withdrawal?

That money is completely free, and the motive is to actually test the betting platform, and not for the fast withdrawal. The minimum requirement should be nothing if the true intention is to get acquainted with the platform, rather than the money withdrawal. That's the main motive though.

However, this is practical, different bonuses, different Ts&Cs, so it's good to read the conditions for each bonus offered, they can't always be the same requirements, which goes for funding one's account with or without bonus attachment.

We should expect to always have a higher wagering requirements on withdrawals from bonuses winnings, but we should have less requirements for our direct deposit winnings, at least 1x wagering requirements is ok and acceptable in most deposits winning cases.

[dzungmobile]

We should expect to always have a higher wagering requirements on withdrawals from bonuses winnings, but we should have less requirements for our direct deposit winnings, at least 1x wagering requirements is ok and acceptable in most deposits winning cases.

It's not wagering requirement specificially on your winnings, but on your bets in general. That's generally a minimum wagering volume required for eligibility to withdraw your fund after funding your account, claiming the deposit bonus for example, and no matter what your bet results are, you will be only allowed to withdraw after wagering the minimum volume.

Having enough fund after betting for meeting that wagering requirement for your withdrawal, it's challenge for you and it's your responsbility to know what you are doing with bets in games and your ability to gamble responsibly and smartly for avoiding big loss from deposit.

[Beparanf]

We should expect to always have a higher wagering requirements on withdrawals from bonuses winnings, but we should have less requirements for our direct deposit winnings, at least 1x wagering requirements is ok and acceptable in most deposits winning cases.

It's not wagering requirement specificially on your winnings, but on your bets in general. That's generally a minimum wagering volume required for eligibility to withdraw your fund after funding your account, claiming the deposit bonus for example, and no matter what your bet results are, you will be only allowed to withdraw after wagering the minimum volume.

Having enough fund after betting for meeting that wagering requirement for your withdrawal, it's challenge for you and it's your responsbility to know what you are doing with bets in games and your ability to gamble responsibly and smartly for avoiding big loss from deposit.

I think he meant free bet winnings since some of this freebet only credited the profit while the initial freebet will already be excluded on the bonus balance once lose.

I remember duelbits have this mechanics on their freebet which only the profit is credited.

But in case that freebet itself will be converted together with the profit then the total will be required to wager.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

Maybe there might be other reasons one may not be allowed to use the casino apart from being from a certain jurisdiction. So the clause is there in case of such a scenario

Does this mean that aside from the countries already listed, they might add more restricted countries in the future? What happens if someone creates an account because their country wasn't restricted yet, but then it suddenly gets restricted down the line? How does that work? Wouldn't the fault lie with the casino then, and not the user who made the account?

The lists of banned/restricted countries keep changing from time to time. It has happened to me too. What they do is alert you of the updated terms of service through your email or account. Then they will put the account on withdrawal mode only if you have funds in there or close it if there is nothing it in.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

The lists of banned/restricted countries keep changing from time to time. It has happened to me too. What they do is alert you of the updated terms of service through your email or account. Then they will put the account on withdrawal mode only if you have funds in there or close it if there is nothing it in.

The restriction list changes with time as it must be updated and adapted to latest policies and regulatory changes of governments around the world especially with most focus on the USA. Any changes from the USA policy and its sanction list will affect ToS updates of many companies globally especially the restriction lists.

The restriction can be affected by policy changes of game providers too, as in one casino, they will have two restriction sets: one set is their company restriction that is widely applied on their platform; another set is from their game provider's restriction and this can be different in different games too.

Like if you are banned by the casino, you can not play any game there but if you are allowed by the casino, you can still be banned on playing in some games by restrictions of a game provider.

[EarnOnVictor]

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It’s good that they listed the restricted countries for this casino, but what I don’t understand is why they added a clause at the end saying they still have the discretion to refuse other customers or even countries not mentioned. Doesn't this create a bit of confusion?

Does this mean that aside from the countries already listed, they might add more restricted countries in the future? What happens if someone creates an account because their country wasn't restricted yet, but then it suddenly gets restricted down the line? How does that work? Wouldn't the fault lie with the casino then, and not the user who made the account?

This clause is not new in casinos and other online and offline businesses. It's similar to the popular clause that "the company has the right to terminate its relationship with the client/customer at any time, at its own discretion."

This is not to scare anyone, but it means that nothing is 100% certain, as their internal decision or country/regional restriction could cause a change at any time. In case someone had opened an account with them before the changes, it's either that they leave the account running with them and turn a blind eye (casinos do that a lot) or they communicate the changes to the affected customers and tell them to withdraw all their money.

No responsible casino will behave in a rogue manner.

[atomicarthur]

I decided to share my experience so after having wafered the 1$ no deposit bonus I manged to make $21 profit and decide to withdraw it. It failed and said contact support. I contacted support and they said minimum withdrawal for the 1$ no deposit bonus is $50.

[Numeral]

I decided to share my experience so after having wafered the 1$ no deposit bonus I manged to make $21 profit and decide to withdraw it. It failed and said contact support. I contacted support and they said minimum withdrawal for the 1$ no deposit bonus is $50.

In principle, ACEBET's policy is understandable, as it is a common defense against bonus hunters who can create an infinite number of accounts, claim bonuses on them, and withdraw funds immediately after a small win. And if someone decides to automate the process of receiving bonuses, the gaming platform could simply go bankrupt. This bonus program is designed more to familiarize players with the casino's functionality.

[Beparanf]

I decided to share my experience so after having wafered the 1$ no deposit bonus I manged to make $21 profit and decide to withdraw it. It failed and said contact support. I contacted support and they said minimum withdrawal for the 1$ no deposit bonus is $50.

In principle, ACEBET's policy is understandable, as it is a common defense against bonus hunters who can create an infinite number of accounts, claim bonuses on them, and withdraw funds immediately after a small win. And if someone decides to automate the process of receiving bonuses, the gaming platform could simply go bankrupt. This bonus program is designed more to familiarize players with the casino's functionality.

This requirements should be stated on the bonus ToS. However, wagering requirements is the usual criteria that should be meet for most casino bonuses while minimum withdrawal amount should be the same to the standard min withdrawal limit of the casino once the bonus wagering requirements was fully satisfied.

Unless there’s a specific term on this bonus indicates that it should be turn to 50$ before it can withdraw then it’s understandable.

Anyone can share the ToS of this bonus to verify?

[Salahmu]

I decided to share my experience so after having wafered the 1$ no deposit bonus I manged to make $21 profit and decide to withdraw it. It failed and said contact support. I contacted support and they said minimum withdrawal for the 1$ no deposit bonus is $50.

Is it not on there bonus terms?, is a free money so there might actually be a minimum you would have before any thought of withdrawing, so since there support has told you how is done is actually for you to rise it to the requirements before you can be able to, if you have not experience this before could be because of the difference in casino because some with $25 you can withdraw from the casino while some could even ask more higher wining than $25. The day I register I also saw the same dollar bonus but I wasn't lucky to use it and win and besides there sports was not available.

[Zoomic]

I decided to share my experience so after having wafered the 1$ no deposit bonus I manged to make $21 profit and decide to withdraw it. It failed and said contact support. I contacted support and they said minimum withdrawal for the 1$ no deposit bonus is $50.

In principle, ACEBET's policy is understandable, as it is a common defense against bonus hunters who can create an infinite number of accounts, claim bonuses on them, and withdraw funds immediately after a small win. And if someone decides to automate the process of receiving bonuses, the gaming platform could simply go bankrupt. This bonus program is designed more to familiarize players with the casino's functionality.

Oh!
There are people who just make accounts to get welcome bonuses and continue to do that.
That behaviour will affect a casino that is non kyc like AceBet because they might not track the users that are multi accounting except through IP addresses.
If I find a way to turn $1 to $21, maybe I will continue to do it until it gets to $200. I know it is not easy, but I will apply discipline and continue to try.

[khaled0111]

The lists of banned/restricted countries keep changing from time to time. It has happened to me too. What they do is alert you of the updated terms of service through your email or account. Then they will put the account on withdrawal mode only if you have funds in there or close it if there is nothing it in.

That’s what any reputable casino/service would do, so it’s not really something to be concerned about. You will most likely read in almost any service’s terms that the company reserves the right to change its tos and this includes the list of restricted countries (for obvious reasons), so there’s nothing special here.
The confusion was caused by the wording of that particular clause where they said "we reserve the right to refuse customers from any other countries over and above the aforementioned jurisdictions at our own discretion" instead of simply saying “the list of restricted countries may change". But they already addressed this in one of their replies on the first page of this thread.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

That’s what any reputable casino/service would do, so it’s not really something to be concerned about. You will most likely read in almost any service’s terms that the company reserves the right to change its tos and this includes the list of restricted countries (for obvious reasons), so there’s nothing special here.

Yeah, it's supposed to be the standard procedure. Any changes in the terms of service, even if it's just a sentence, are supposed to be communicated to the users, and they must either accept the new terms or opt out.
But I have seen some cases in the past where a casino quiety changes the list of banned countries, and then a user gets shocked to realize that his country was banned a while back when he tries to withdraw the winnings.

[Potato Chips]

Anyone can share the ToS of this bonus to verify?

In most platforms I've played at, I can typically peruse the terms of every promotion even without logging in. I've always thought this was a standard as well.

However, this does not appear to be the case with Acebet. I can't see the terms for their deposit bonus as well. I hope they can adopt it as I consider this a nice quality of life improvement.