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July 21, 2026, 09:06:07 AM
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Man, this situation keeps things worrying and no one has got an idea even these leaders when this war will stop. The Ukraine and Russia hasn't even ended yet.
I expect the same thing with the Iran-US conflict because neither side seems willing to back down. I don't expect Iran to step down, and I don't expect the US to do it either.

The US could probably escalate further, but I don't think it wants to launch a full-scale attack just to end the conflict. On the other hand, I don't think Iran has the capability to fully attack the US and force an end to the conflict either.

That's why I think this situation could drag on for years unless one side eventually decides to compromise or back down. As long as both sides remain firm on their positions, I don't see a quick resolution.
No one's backing down.

And I guess whoever started it should be blamed by other world leaders when there was peace before the attack.

No one knows how they're going to deescalate the situation while the oil prices I think are back to increase.

Yup, the price is now starting to fly high again as there's no assurance whether these two rival countries will allow those foreign users of this passage way knowing both Iran and US are really trying to have that control over Strait of Hormuz and similar to what you've said, I agree that other political leaders especially those who have that competitive power not go to any side but instead try to be in the middle and if possible discuss things in a peace manner instead of provoking or pushing one side to to their attacks or counter attacks.
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July 21, 2026, 12:28:27 PM
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The problem with the Strait of Hormuz and Iran is that if this situation drags on for a long time, the Strait will simply lose its appeal, other suppliers will establish alternative oil supply routes, and Iran will not only fail to reap any benefits but will also lose its market, because the Strait of Hormuz...turns out can be blocked from both sides-something the IRGC, for some reason, didn’t consider Smiley


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July 21, 2026, 12:47:16 PM
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The problem with the Strait of Hormuz and Iran is that if this situation drags on for a long time, the Strait will simply lose its appeal, other suppliers will establish alternative oil supply routes, and Iran will not only fail to reap any benefits but will also lose its market, because the Strait of Hormuz...turns out can be blocked from both sides-something the IRGC, for some reason, didn’t consider Smiley

Two captains can't lead one ship, both the US and Iran wants to be in charge of that Strait none wants to back down for the other that's why we keep hearing news of blockades and opening over and over. They need to find a solution cause it ruining business of their allies in the sense that Iranian allies woukd pay tolls to us for passage like US allies do same for Iran but I think US is looking for other alternatives to boycott passage of their product through that Strait cause not too long from today,  I saw a news that says, "US oil giant Chevron explores new pipeline routes in Iraq to bypass the Strait of Hormuz".

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July 21, 2026, 02:36:49 PM
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The problem with the Strait of Hormuz and Iran is that if this situation drags on for a long time, the Strait will simply lose its appeal, other suppliers will establish alternative oil supply routes,
Alternative routes for moving oil have been explored and is still being discussed, but truth is, they all fall short and are incapable of replacing the Strait of Hormuz.

About 20 million barrels of oil crosses the Strait of Hormuz daily, there is no alternative source that can come close to that capacity. Meaning that even if the Strait is very volatile, and traffic can often be halted, there are really no viable alternatives that can match its capacity, yet they are even more expensive to run.

 
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July 21, 2026, 03:47:06 PM
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No one's backing down.

And I guess whoever started it should be blamed by other world leaders when there was peace before the attack.

No one knows how they're going to deescalate the situation while the oil prices I think are back to increase.

Yup, the price is now starting to fly high again as there's no assurance whether these two rival countries will allow those foreign users of this passage way knowing both Iran and US are really trying to have that control over Strait of Hormuz and similar to what you've said, I agree that other political leaders especially those who have that competitive power not go to any side but instead try to be in the middle and if possible discuss things in a peace manner instead of provoking or pushing one side to to their attacks or counter attacks.
Is the UN can't step into this war and be the mediator of them?

Although we continue to complain that it's getting too much, there's nothing we can do with that.

Does the UN can only intervene if the countries involved in a war are not that powerful?

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Is the UN can't step into this war and be the mediator of them?
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Does the UN can only intervene if the countries involved in a war are not that powerful?
Lol, is it news to you that the U.N. is grossly ineffective, i believe that ought to be a well-known information. The U.N. constantly fail in achieving any of its core objectives, be it in maintaining peace or preventing large-scale conflicts.

Their position is even worse-off right now, as they are on the brink of going broke. Grin In case you do not know, The U.S. and China have failed to provide any sort of funding for the organization for a while now, so they are not in the best state right now.

 
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July 21, 2026, 10:22:51 PM
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Is the UN can't step into this war and be the mediator of them?
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Does the UN can only intervene if the countries involved in a war are not that powerful?
Lol, is it news to you that the U.N. is grossly ineffective, i believe that ought to be a well-known information. The U.N. constantly fail in achieving any of its core objectives, be it in maintaining peace or preventing large-scale conflicts.

Their position is even worse-off right now, as they are on the brink of going broke. Grin In case you do not know, The U.S. and China have failed to provide any sort of funding for the organization for a while now, so they are not in the best state right now.
I have an idea of how they mostly help to those who are needy in their eyes.

So they're only reactive based on the country's that funds them. And with these two, they've got no support that receive anymore.

I thought that they're boasting what the organization is about in these cases of international conflicts. Thanks, I get it right now.

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July 22, 2026, 09:30:53 AM
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So they're only reactive based on the country's that funds them. And with these two, they've got no support that receive anymore.
That is not correct. The U.N. is funded by all of its members, through a compulsory payment made to the organization, but these contributions are not equal, certain countries pay far larger than others. For example, the U.S. contributes the largest amount to the U.N., followed by China.

So, it is not a case of being "reactive" based on funding. It is basically an ineffective and corrupt organization, and i mentioned the issue of funding because they are on the brink of bankrputcy due to unpaid contributions from different countries, which makes them even more ineffective. Grin

 
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July 22, 2026, 11:09:05 AM
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The problem with the Strait of Hormuz and Iran is that if this situation drags on for a long time, the Strait will simply lose its appeal, other suppliers will establish alternative oil supply routes, and Iran will not only fail to reap any benefits but will also lose its market, because the Strait of Hormuz...turns out can be blocked from both sides-something the IRGC, for some reason, didn’t consider Smiley

Two captains can't lead one ship, both the US and Iran wants to be in charge of that Strait none wants to back down for the other that's why we keep hearing news of blockades and opening over and over. They need to find a solution cause it ruining business of their allies in the sense that Iranian allies woukd pay tolls to us for passage like US allies do same for Iran but I think US is looking for other alternatives to boycott passage of their product through that Strait cause not too long from today,  I saw a news that says, "US oil giant Chevron explores new pipeline routes in Iraq to bypass the Strait of Hormuz".



If you own the same asset but pull it in different directions, it will simply tear apart, and neither side will be able to benefit from its use. That is exactly what we are seeing right now. At the same time, it is important to understand that the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz definitely has a more negative impact on Iran than on the United States.
As a result of the standoff, Iran’s infrastructure, such as the island of Khark, could suffer, which would result in Iran losing the ability to ship oil at all.


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From the constant escalation in the ongoing war I can striaghtly say without having double thought that US is determined to put an end to iran with or without the close of the strait of Hormuz.  Although the inflation experienced by countries in the Eastern locations at first was because of the closure of the strait of Hormuz which was why the US fought tirelessly to take over but one thing getting me confused is why iran has refused to put an end to this there desired ambition of owning a nuclear weapon even after losing all to the war.
If i am opportune to have a say on this ongoing conflict,  I will push for iran to quickly quit this selfish ambition and uphold peace because If it continues with this speed there will be no Iran in months to come.


The U.S. does not want to destroy IRAN; the U.S. and Israel want to destroy the terrorist regime that has been destabilizing the entire region for many decades.
And why does "Iran not want to put an end to its selfish ambitions"? It’s all very simple.
It’s not Iran, but the IRGC and a regime of fanatics for whom the loss of power means the loss of financial resources,and most likely their lives, because the Iranian people will seek revenge against these usurpers for decades of terror and oppression!

P.S. The U.S. isn’t fighting for control of the Strait of Hormuz; it’s simply mirroring the actions of the IRGC junta.


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July 22, 2026, 10:06:45 PM
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So they're only reactive based on the country's that funds them. And with these two, they've got no support that receive anymore.
That is not correct. The U.N. is funded by all of its members, through a compulsory payment made to the organization, but these contributions are not equal, certain countries pay far larger than others. For example, the U.S. contributes the largest amount to the U.N., followed by China.

So, it is not a case of being "reactive" based on funding. It is basically an ineffective and corrupt organization, and i mentioned the issue of funding because they are on the brink of bankrputcy due to unpaid contributions from different countries, which makes them even more ineffective. Grin
Oh right, so I did a bit of searching about these debts and it's said that the US has got $4bn of debt to them although some were paid this February of around $160m.

And for China, they owe UN of about $430m.

So you're right, they will be ineffective when they won't have these amounts. Too much to expect from these countries which are currently also in debt.

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July 22, 2026, 10:10:31 PM
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From the constant escalation in the ongoing war I can striaghtly say without having double thought that US is determined to put an end to iran with or without the close of the strait of Hormuz.  Although the inflation experienced by countries in the Eastern locations at first was because of the closure of the strait of Hormuz which was why the US fought tirelessly to take over but one thing getting me confused is why iran has refused to put an end to this there desired ambition of owning a nuclear weapon even after losing all to the war.
If i am opportune to have a say on this ongoing conflict,  I will push for iran to quickly quit this selfish ambition and uphold peace because If it continues with this speed there will be no Iran in months to come.
The U.S. does not want to destroy IRAN; the U.S. and Israel want to destroy the terrorist regime that has been destabilizing the entire region for many decades.
And why does "Iran not want to put an end to its selfish ambitions"? It’s all very simple.
It’s not Iran, but the IRGC and a regime of fanatics for whom the loss of power means the loss of financial resources,and most likely their lives, because the Iranian people will seek revenge against these usurpers for decades of terror and oppression!

P.S. The U.S. isn’t fighting for control of the Strait of Hormuz; it’s simply mirroring the actions of the IRGC junta.

People need to educate why this is actually happening. It is not about waging war with Iran but it is more than that as you said. However, it seems to the world that US wanted to take control over Iran's territory. And it is not.

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Today at 03:39:43 AM
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Not even does the Strait of Hormuz remain closed again for now, even the Red Sea are also in risk of closing due to the Houthis in Yemen attacking any ships which are going to pass through that sea route. I think the situation in the middle east region is getting more and more worst with Donald Trump in the white house, he does not seems to have any clue about how to resolve the situation with Iran now after he started a pointless war  and I believe the energy and oil crisis would continue to worsen worldwide resulting in high inflations around the world.

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