Strait of Hormuz now open?

[laijsica]

It is almost getting close to the end of August and the Strait of Hormuz still remains closed, it seems that while Oman are trying to sort out issues on the Strait of Hormuz with Iran in order to get oils flowing out from the crucial waterway in the Middle East. On the other hand, Donald Trump are issuing threats to bomb Oman too for negotiating with Iran on the Strait of Hormuz without getting the USA involved in the negotiation, I think Donald Trump does not even understand that Iran will never surrender to the terms and conditions about the issues on Strait of Hormuz laid out by Donald Trump and it seems that the oil prices are certainly going to get higher.

The problem with Trump and his administration is that they always try to twist the narrative. I don't believe the strait is completely closed as the US and allies keep stating. It's simply under Iran's control and ships can transit through it so long as they abide by the guidelines. That is what they call it being closed while with the "US blockade", the very hypocrites consider it as open and secured 

We may not be getting accurate information about the actual events there, but it is certain that the transportation of goods through that region is not going on normally. Iran or the US forces are trying to maintain their occupation there, but the interesting thing is that the IRGC is in a more advantageous position than the US forces. They will get additional advantages within their own borders and they are actually not as weak as Trump thought Iran was. Trump is expressing his opinion on every issue of the war and promoting himself. The people of most countries consider his frequent changes in position as a business move. This is reducing his own value when everyone sees that the real situation is the opposite of his statements.

[snowpega]

The problem with Trump and his administration is that they always try to twist the narrative. I don't believe the strait is completely closed as the US and allies keep stating. It's simply under Iran's control and ships can transit through it so long as they abide by the guidelines. That is what they call it being closed while with the "US blockade", the very hypocrites consider it as open and secured 

Right now, Trump is just manipulating everything, and for this he has a reason now. In recent days, have you found any of his angry statements? Haha, he is more chill now and enjoying the whole scenario. What is think the reason is? US right now is not importing oil from the Strait of Hormuz, which means it's now independent of this path (only for now). It is importing its major oil supply from Venezuela.

And for this edge, Trump is taking advantage of all these situations. In recent times, I was reading a news headline where Trump was saying that most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country, against Iran. So, if the US keep importing its oil supply from Venezuela, then they don't care about any other country, and they will keep the blockade in place against Iran and will not leave any time soon. This will damage Iran more economically.

[Baki202]

Right now, Trump is just manipulating everything, and for this he has a reason now. In recent days, have you found any of his angry statements? Haha, he is more chill now and enjoying the whole scenario. What is think the reason is? US right now is not importing oil from the Strait of Hormuz, which means it's now independent of this path (only for now). It is importing its major oil supply from Venezuela.

This is what politicians are known for because, from the beginning of the war, there has been no good progress. And Trump is one of the most complicated because, by now, I feel they should find a way of selling and measuring the Strait of Hormuz, now open. After all, who are they now fighting for? Because the economic damage has been happening for a long time, and them getting their oil from Venezuela is just another strategy to make things easy for themselves, and they have sought themselves out and left others with impossible options, relying on the Re: Strait of Hormuz.

And for this edge, Trump is taking advantage of all these situations. In recent times, I was reading a news headline where Trump was saying that most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country, against Iran. So, if the US keep importing its oil supply from Venezuela, then they don't care about any other country, and they will keep the blockade in place against Iran and will not leave any time soon. This will damage Iran more economically.

It appears to be the case currently. The way things are going, they need to be more considerate because even the lives of the soldiers matter. We also need to restore economic value because a lot of things have been happening. I didn't expect things to turn out the way everyone wanted them to, but nothing seems to be changing after the US and Trump intervened. And the way things are now, they are leaving us lost in this whole situation.

[Princess Leah]

Right now, Trump is just manipulating everything, and for this he has a reason now. In recent days, have you found any of his angry statements? Haha, he is more chill now and enjoying the whole scenario. What is think the reason is? US right now is not importing oil from the Strait of Hormuz, which means it's now independent of this path (only for now). It is importing its major oil supply from Venezuela.

And for this edge, Trump is taking advantage of all these situations. In recent times, I was reading a news headline where Trump was saying that most crushing economic operation ever taken against any country, against Iran. So, if the US keep importing its oil supply from Venezuela, then they don't care about any other country, and they will keep the blockade in place against Iran and will not leave any time soon. This will damage Iran more economically.

No wonder they had to go secure Venezuela's oil by taking Maduro out so incase the war escalates and make the oil price go higher or stop them from getting oil from the middle east it won't affect them much cause they already have Venezuela's oil. Then place a blockade to stop Iran from making sells and further crumble their economy.

 Trump of lately acts like a clown, this minute he's serious with his statement and the next he's trolling about taking over the Straight Of Hormuz, i also saw a news where it was stated that the US has taken full control of that straight, can you confirm that?

[Abiky]

I predicted this behavior last year before the US regime even began its terrorist attacks. Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563170.0

The US regime has been disrupting the global economy and trade routes in the false hope to disrupt China and thwart its economic and technological advancements. They've been failing at that too but that's their current plan and the reason why the regime's mouthpieces keep saying contradicting stuff and keep lying 24/7 is exactly that. We should expect more disruption and destabilization by the regime in other places of the world as well.

Part of that failure is because as I've explained in my first post in this topic over a month ago, Iran hasn't actually closed it's own strait! What's imposed is restrictions on who uses these Iranian waters. Basically anything that belongs to the enemy and its terrorist axis is banned and other ships from friendly countries have been passing through fine. Granted it is only like 1% of the previous traffic but they are still getting through and many of them head toward China

As much as the US wants to thwart China's economic power, it will never succeed. That's because China is already too big to fail. The US should've stopped this monster when it had the chance. Now it's already too late. Iran recently demanded oil trades to be performed in Chinese Yuan instead of the US Dollar. If countries crossing the Strait with their vessels decide to pay in Yuan, the USD would be nothing but doomed.

De-dollarization is right around the corner. Therefore, the US' celebration of a stronger USD is short-lived. Trump ultimately failed in Making America Great again. It's worse than it was before. Even Republicans are rejecting the idea of a prolonged conflict with Iran. Remember the promise of "no more wars"? Or Trump's ambitions to become the "Peace President"? They were nothing but lies. The midterms are getting closer, so anything can happen.gm

[Oluwa-btc]

It is almost getting close to the end of August and the Strait of Hormuz still remains closed, it seems that while Oman are trying to sort out issues on the Strait of Hormuz with Iran in order to get oils flowing out from the crucial waterway in the Middle East. On the other hand, Donald Trump are issuing threats to bomb Oman too for negotiating with Iran on the Strait of Hormuz without getting the USA involved in the negotiation, I think Donald Trump does not even understand that Iran will never surrender to the terms and conditions about the issues on Strait of Hormuz laid out by Donald Trump and it seems that the oil prices are certainly going to get higher.

Why does it feel like they strategically want the strait of Hormuz closed, I mean intentionally. It is the same way they want Ukraine shooting Russian refineries and Yemen shooting Saudi Arabian refineries. I can not explain why but I always have this sinking feeling this is always what the United States of America wanted all along so they can not only cut fertilizer supplies and also be the one nation selling oil gas and energy to all of Europe and Asia. This is just a thought playing up in my skull thought. Anybody here thinks that way too?!

[abhiseshakana]

I predicted this behavior last year before the US regime even began its terrorist attacks. Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563170.0

The US regime has been disrupting the global economy and trade routes in the false hope to disrupt China and thwart its economic and technological advancements. They've been failing at that too but that's their current plan and the reason why the regime's mouthpieces keep saying contradicting stuff and keep lying 24/7 is exactly that. We should expect more disruption and destabilization by the regime in other places of the world as well.

Part of that failure is because as I've explained in my first post in this topic over a month ago, Iran hasn't actually closed it's own strait! What's imposed is restrictions on who uses these Iranian waters. Basically anything that belongs to the enemy and its terrorist axis is banned and other ships from friendly countries have been passing through fine. Granted it is only like 1% of the previous traffic but they are still getting through and many of them head toward China

As much as the US wants to thwart China's economic power, it will never succeed. That's because China is already too big to fail. The US should've stopped this monster when it had the chance. Now it's already too late. Iran recently demanded oil trades to be performed in Chinese Yuan instead of the US Dollar. If countries crossing the Strait with their vessels decide to pay in Yuan, the USD would be nothing but doomed.

De-dollarization is right around the corner. Therefore, the US' celebration of a stronger USD is short-lived. Trump ultimately failed in Making America Great again. It's worse than it was before. Even Republicans are rejecting the idea of a prolonged conflict with Iran. Remember the promise of "no more wars"? Or Trump's ambitions to become the "Peace President"? They were nothing but lies. The midterms are getting closer, so anything can happen.gm

The game is not over yet, the chance for both still wide open and there are many possibility but it is not as simple as US failed stop China or China destroy the dollar, it could become an eternal rivalvy. Many narrative today that US economy will be defeated by China over the next 10 years only by comparing their GDP, many people forget that it doesn't mean when China become richer then US become increasingly poor. Maybe US already realized that they can not stop China so their strategy by slowing down the catch up process through many economic pressure such as trade war.

I don't think dedolarization will bring the collapse of the USD, even its still far away for yuan can replace USD, even petro dollar change to petro yuan still cannot replace the USD, because yuan needdeep bond market, institutional trust, global liquidity and network effect which where the US still dominates. Both have structural strengths and weaknesses.

Will US use military action to crippling and slowing down China ?

[DrBeer]

"Iran has complete control over the Strait of Hormuz" - that’s just as much a IRGC fake as their ranting, "We’ll easily destroy the U.S. Navy"
Such "mental masturbation" - verbal self-gratification for the sake of mental satisfaction, without any actual events to back it up - is typical of regimes like this What else is left for them to do? Tell the truth? Well, that’s "like death"… So here’s the bottom line:
- Anyone who wants to can block the Strait of Hormuz
- No one has exclusive rights to it
- Each side claims whatever it wants for itself, including the U.S. - it would be foolish to deny it