Use a metal backup to keep your seed phrase safe.

[348Judah]

This picture above was taken from online and I’m using it to illustrate what I’m talking about and for a more clear understanding.

We have seen how a lot of people complain of losing their seed phrase, and that is why keeping your seed phrase safe is extremely important, it’s the master key to your Bitcoin. And If someone gets it, they can take all your bitcoin and If you lose it, all your bitcoin are gone forever.
So as a newbie coming into Bitcoin investment you need to understand this and keep your seed phrase safe and the best way to do that is by engraving or stamping your seed phrase on stainless steel just like the picture above, and the reason why it is seen as the best is because of it’s resistance to fire, water and physical damage to some extent.
So all Newbies should use this method, especially those who are planning on holding for long term, because it’s more safe.

One thing I will always appreciate about the use of metal backup sheet for our seed phrase is All about it durability, which cannot be exchanged for anything else, you have to get used to using a quality materials that does not permit for quality degrading over time and such is what we can get from using metal materials with such durability features, and we also need to device a secure means to keeping it safe and away from any third party.

[Catenaccio]

Not too much though, just make sure it can be managed properly.. the more the backup the less ideal it becomes to manage. But multiple backups is generally advisable.

You can try multiple locations but carefully select accessibility and possible disasters that can affect such locations so that you won’t need up losing all your backups despite using multiple locations [ for example.. you risk losing all your backups when your selected locations are coastal areas]

Multiple backups are recommended because you will have better chance of always have at least a wallet backup to use. However, there are pros and cons, with multiple backups, you will have to store them safely and privately so make sure that don't make many backups that exceed your capability to keep them safe.

Because if one of storage location is unsafe, and that wallet backup is lost/ stolen by someone else, you will lose your bitcoin.

If you want something like an ace under sleeves, let's use a custom word/ wallet passphrase and remember it with your brain and memory. You can back up this second part of your wallet but avoid to store it at the same place with your first part backup.

[promise444c5]

If you want something like an ace under sleeves, let's use a custom word/ wallet passphrase and remember it with your brain and memory. You can back up this second part of your wallet but avoid to store it at the same place with your first part backup.

Passphrase is mandatory recommendation for every wallet.. But relying on your pain brain  only looks like an easy way to lose your bitcoins.

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pain to brain.. my keyboard does that a lot when I omit or use a wrong character that doesn’t form a dictionary word.

[Tongley]

This picture above was taken from online and I’m using it to illustrate what I’m talking about and for a more clear understanding.

We have seen how a lot of people complain of losing their seed phrase, and that is why keeping your seed phrase safe is extremely important, it’s the master key to your Bitcoin. And If someone gets it, they can take all your bitcoin and If you lose it, all your bitcoin are gone forever.
So as a newbie coming into Bitcoin investment you need to understand this and keep your seed phrase safe and the best way to do that is by engraving or stamping your seed phrase on stainless steel just like the picture above, and the reason why it is seen as the best is because of it’s resistance to fire, water and physical damage to some extent.
So all Newbies should use this method, especially those who are planning on holding for long term, because it’s more safe.

One thing I will always appreciate about the use of metal backup sheet for our seed phrase is All about it durability, which cannot be exchanged for anything else, you have to get used to using a quality materials that does not permit for quality degrading over time and such is what we can get from using metal materials with such durability features, and we also need to device a secure means to keeping it safe and away from any third party.

Yes, this is a very good idea and if ever possible, I will use this method. Because one of the best ways to keep our seed phrases safe is to write them down like this. Because when we write them down like this, we will not be afraid of getting burned in a fire, we will not be afraid of getting the writing ruined, we will not be afraid of getting ruined by water, etc. We will be able to protect our seed phrase from many such risks. For those who have long-term investment goals, using this method of saving the seed phrase can be one of the best ways.

[Mrbluntzy]

Like someone already mentioned, this method of seed phrase back is good for everyone and we can agree that it is more safe from being easily destroyed by fire outbreak or flood compare to paper backup, I think a high grade stainless steel can be suitable for this purpose because it is heavily resistant to corrosion and can withstand high temperature, however if one still careless about keeping it in a safe place, they can still lose their asset, that's why I feel it's always important to add extra security like pass phrase or multi signature to one's address. In this space, security is one of the ultimate thing that would let you rip the fruits of your investment without losing it to scammers.

[tabas]

Yes, this is a very good idea and if ever possible, I will use this method. Because one of the best ways to keep our seed phrases safe is to write them down like this. Because when we write them down like this, we will not be afraid of getting burned in a fire, we will not be afraid of getting the writing ruined, we will not be afraid of getting ruined by water, etc. We will be able to protect our seed phrase from many such risks. For those who have long-term investment goals, using this method of saving the seed phrase can be one of the best ways.

No corrosion for that and it's sturdy that's why it's a good way of saving your keys in that type of metal plate or stainless steel. But you don't mention that to anybody in your personal life because you might be targeted of wrench attackers. Just keep it somewhere when no one gets to notice it and it is only you that knows where you're be placing it in your home. Since it is exposed and one who's got an understanding about seed phrases can easily take pictures of it if they accidentally seen it and then get out of your house and import it in their house.

[JiiBs]

This picture above was taken from online and I’m using it to illustrate what I’m talking about and for a more clear understanding.

One thing I will always appreciate about the use of metal backup sheet for our seed phrase is All about it durability, which cannot be exchanged for anything else, you have to get used to using a quality materials that does not permit for quality degrading over time and such is what we can get from using metal materials with such durability features, and we also need to device a secure means to keeping it safe and away from any third party.

I am having one concern here, don’t know how I haven’t thought of this before but then, we all appreciate metal sheets to be a reliable way of storing our seed phrase and the protection it offers against disasters like fire and flood.

Still, we must recall that seed phrases are supposed to be for our eyes only and the fact that, not all of us works with metal or can proper engrave on metals, this means you would need the expertise of someone that works with metal or does engraving.

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

[notocactus]

I am having one concern here, don’t know how I haven’t thought of this before but then, we all appreciate metal sheets to be a reliable way of storing our seed phrase and the protection it offers against disasters like fire and flood.

Still, we must recall that seed phrases are supposed to be for our eyes only and the fact that, not all of us works with metal or can proper engrave on metals, this means you would need the expertise of someone that works with metal or does engraving.

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

You won't have to use your finger nails to engrave metal plates by yourself or any tools for engraving made by yourself.

The manufacturers of those metal plates for wallet backups will provide a set of necessary tools for engraving, and you can do that by yourself at home, secretly, nobody knows what're engraving if you don't proactively share it on media.

• [Guide] Securing your seed phrase with washers.

Back up methods are diversifying and you can use the ones you feel most comfortable with, don't force yourself to do something you are uncomfortable with and if you feel like you can make mistakes and won't handle it well.

[fullfitlarry]

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

No, they won't get their hands into your metal plate, you are the one that is going to engraved it. Unless you make a video of it and then someone was able to get it from you. Or you do an engraved by then you let someone watch it.

It might be expensive to buy this metal plate, but at least you know that in case of worst situation, you have a backup that can withstand fire and so you can still recover it. As compare to paper wallet backup or paper seed backup.

[ultrloa]

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

No, they won't get their hands into your metal plate, you are the one that is going to engraved it. Unless you make a video of it and then someone was able to get it from you. Or you do an engraved by then you let someone watch it.

It might be expensive to buy this metal plate, but at least you know that in case of worst situation, you have a backup that can withstand fire and so you can still recover it. As compare to paper wallet backup or paper seed backup.

Yeah right, there's no need for them to hand their plates on another person. Since that expose them to another risk.

There are cheaper options to do that thing and they can actually buy a metal engraver in Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Metal-Engraver/s?k=Metal+Engraver

If they can spend huge money in their investment, for sure they can also spend buying a tool that can protect their important details.

[knowngunman]

Still, we must recall that seed phrases are supposed to be for our eyes only and the fact that, not all of us works with metal or can proper engrave on metals, this means you would need the expertise of someone that works with metal or does engraving.

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

What? You actually thought that is the way out if you can't do it yourself? I would be surprised if anyone would even think of giving their seed phrase to someone to engrave for them because they can't do it themselves.

The metal backup is not mandatory for anyone. If you don't know how to engrave then you should stay away from it completely instead of thinking about how to outsource it. Pass phrase is all about how well you secured it, it doesn't matter what you use. If you can keep the paper back up very secure, it's fine. With metal back up, if you handle it carelessly your coin is gone. It's better to stick to the system you're familiar with.

[tech30338]

Still, we must recall that seed phrases are supposed to be for our eyes only and the fact that, not all of us works with metal or can proper engrave on metals, this means you would need the expertise of someone that works with metal or does engraving.

If that be the case,
Wouldn’t we be exposing our seed phrase to a third party?

What? You actually thought that is the way out if you can't do it yourself? I would be surprised if anyone would even think of giving their seed phrase to someone to engrave for them because they can't do it themselves.

The metal backup is not mandatory for anyone. If you don't know how to engrave then you should stay away from it completely instead of thinking about how to outsource it. Pass phrase is all about how well you secured it, it doesn't matter what you use. If you can keep the paper back up very secure, it's fine. With metal back up, if you handle it carelessly your coin is gone. It's better to stick to the system you're familiar with.

I would not trust anyone to engrave a seed phrase to a metal even though he did not know what it is people now are showing off on what they do, once its made they might make a selfie and put online that is when things will go bad, exposing it to the internet.
If you cant engrave it in a metal yourself just write it on a paper laminate and keep it into something that you only have access, don't make things complicated or even try to memorized it.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Not too much though, just make sure it can be managed properly.. the more the backup the less ideal it becomes to manage. But multiple backups is generally advisable.

You can try multiple locations but carefully select accessibility and possible disasters that can affect such locations so that you won’t need up losing all your backups despite using multiple locations [ for example.. you risk losing all your backups when your selected locations are coastal areas]

Having multiple backups for your wallets and wallet recovery later is recommended. It's like never put all eggs in one basket, in security and wallet backup, recovery, the principle is the same.

Requirement for this practice is you must be able to secure your multiple backups as they are created to secure your wallets and funds in those wallets, not to lose your fund. While wallet backups can be used for wallet recovery and access your funds. Therefore if you lose only one of your multiple wallet backups to any people, you will lose your fund, and it's not purpose of your wallet backup.

[Cookdata]

Like someone already mentioned, this method of seed phrase back is good for everyone and we can agree that it is more safe from being easily destroyed by fire outbreak or flood compare to paper backup, I think a high grade stainless steel can be suitable for this purpose because it is heavily resistant to corrosion and can withstand high temperature, however if one still careless about keeping it in a safe place, they can still lose their asset, that's why I feel it's always important to add extra security like pass phrase or multi signature to one's address. In this space, security is one of the ultimate thing that would let you rip the fruits of your investment without losing it to scammers.

If you are looking for something more resistant to air and corrosion, stainless steel is not the best metal. Titanium offers more resistance than steel, but they are expensive than steel. You can use stainless steel for your seed phrase backup, but you have to keep it in a dry and clean place.

I don't like multisig wallet unless it involves many ownership that will require n of m signatures, you will have to deal with at least two seed which is additional security requirement for your wallet. I think Passphrase is enough to help protect your seed phrase against external attack if eventually someone was able to access your seed phrase.

Whatever metal and method of engrave you do for your wallet back up, try to have muktiple back up, you may not need it at that moment but you never can tell, back up just for fire resistance and corrosion does not protect your back up from misplacement.

[Mrbluntzy]

Like someone already mentioned, this method of seed phrase back is good for everyone and we can agree that it is more safe from being easily destroyed by fire outbreak or flood compare to paper backup, I think a high grade stainless steel can be suitable for this purpose because it is heavily resistant to corrosion and can withstand high temperature, however if one still careless about keeping it in a safe place, they can still lose their asset, that's why I feel it's always important to add extra security like pass phrase or multi signature to one's address. In this space, security is one of the ultimate thing that would let you rip the fruits of your investment without losing it to scammers.

I don't like multisig wallet unless it involves many ownership that will require n of m signatures, you will have to deal with at least two seed which is additional security requirement for your wallet. I think Passphrase is enough to help protect your seed phrase against external attack if eventually someone was able to access your seed phrase.

Some people prefer passphrase over multisig, personally if I'm dealing with a cold storage that I won't be spending any time soon, I like to use multisig because it feel more safe and I don't feel worried that my coins will be stollen as long as signing keys are safe but some people do not use either of them and they will be feeling worried about the security of their coins. Now that scammers are topping up in their games, I think we holders should also take action by adding extra security instead of feeling that keeping our seed phrase safe is just enough, it can be enough but again we should remember that some people that lost their coins would not have lost it if they added extra security.

[Livingleged]

If you are looking for something more resistant to air and corrosion, stainless steel is not the best metal. Titanium offers more resistance than steel, but they are expensive than steel. You can use stainless steel for your seed phrase backup, but you have to keep it in a dry and clean place.

Titanium might seem to be a good choice of metal material for our seed phrase backup, but apart from the fact that they are kind of  expensive, they are also not readily available as steel. However, the steel material can be very much okay if you can avoid the exposure to water to prevent roasting. I think the steel material also doesn’t even roast quickly when compared to Iron, so it can just be fine.

Whatever metal and method of engrave you do for your wallet back up, try to have muktiple back up, you may not need it at that moment but you never can tell, back up just for fire resistance and corrosion does not protect your back up from misplacement.

This last point is not just an advice but a serious warning that if you care so much about your fund, one shouldn’t take for granted.

[promise444c5]

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Having multiple backups for your wallets and wallet recovery later is recommended. It's like never put all eggs in one basket, in security and wallet backup, recovery, the principle is the same.

Well I didn’t say you can have that actually  , you can have as many as possible you desire. All I’m saying it that, the more you add up to existing backups the harder it may likely get to manage them ..

You can have multiple backup and still lose your coin to a seed/backup  reveal , not to even any form of disaster  you were tying to escape in the first place..

No method is perfect, so do it by considering possibilities..

[BABY SHOES]

Back up methods are diversifying and you can use the ones you feel most comfortable with, don't force yourself to do something you are uncomfortable with and if you feel like you can make mistakes and won't handle it well.

This is what I like the most... I still use the most practical but safe backup method in my own view even though it is written on paper, the important thing is that the house is kept safe and no one knows it is more than enough, I also store it in several different places.

Steel plate, Titanium is a good metal, the price is expensive because it has good quality, still do not buy for now.

Never show off assets to anyone so as not to invite robbery.

[leonair]

You are not the first person who introduced this backup method and below are some threads in this forum as well as the big review post from Jameson Lopp with different tests.
Metal Bitcoin seed storage reviews.

Your 1st link is suspicious and seems risky so you should remove this form your post. once i clicked on your link it warn me as suspicious phishing link.

Writing the seed phrase on a metal plate is quite safe because it will not be damaged by water, rust or be thrown away if it is found in front of the family. However, the risk is that since it is a hard metal and the size is a bit large, if someone in the family ever finds it, they will be able to access the Bitcoin. The reason for this fear is that I do not trust anyone when it comes to Bitcoin security. However, if we can hide it carefully on our private locker, this weight will be safer than keeping an online backup.

[GeorgeJohn]

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If you are looking for something more resistant to air and corrosion, stainless steel is not the best metal. Titanium offers more resistance than steel,

You catches my attention here...I don't know if you have forgotten iridium..it's the best metal resistance both air and corrosion...

but they are expensive than steel. You can use stainless steel for your seed phrase backup,but you have to keep it in a dry and clean place.

There's nothing  wrong with stainless steel too, but only thing is to keep it more safer for your seed phrase backup when is been used as a backup, it get affected when it's not been abstain from water.. stainless steel can stay longer without corrosive rust when is not been in contact with any liquid substance...