Shuffle.com - Withdrawals Blocked and Cancelled After Legitimate Win

[baba2020]

holydarkness has demonstrated he has no real mediation power here.

It's been weeks, and all he ever did was "nudge" Tim repeatedly while consistently leaning toward Shuffle's side, despite not a single piece of concrete public evidence being presented against OP. Meanwhile, OP had to prove his innocence at every step, responding to every new accusation, providing everything requested, and still couldn't get a ruling in his favor.

Let's not forget that holydarkness already ruled in Shuffle's favor once , and only walked it back after the community raised serious questions and exposed the holes in his reasoning. That's not mediation, that's a mediator testing the waters and retreating when the pushback was too strong. It reveals exactly what's driving his decisions: not the evidence, but the audience.

The reason holydarkness can't make a final decision now is obvious: he's trapped between two fears. If he rules against OP, he loses credibility with the overwhelming proofs that OP had to show and the majority of this forum who clearly see OP's side. If he rules in OP's favor, he damages whatever relationship he has with Shuffle. That's not neutrality, that's a pure conflict of interest, and it's the OP who pays the price for it.

And instead of focusing on resolving this case, holydarkness keeps bringing up his conflict with Rating Place to shift attention away from what actually matters. A genuinely objective mediator would be laser focused on solving the dispute, not dragging personal drama into the thread to create noise and buy more time. Every post that talks about anything other than reaching a verdict is another day OP waits for money that is rightfully his.

If you can't make a decision after weeks of mediation, full cooperation from OP, and zero public evidence from the casino, you are simply not fit to be a mediator. Period. What are you waiting for to take a decision? Are you waiting for Tim to invent yet another excuse?

Regardless of whatever "decision" holydarkness eventually lands on, it is already clear it carries no real weight. At this point, the best move is to leave this thread open and wait for Noah @ndumm. He's the only one who can actually come here with real authority to solve this. He showed up for the Nateshawn case , he can show up here. And let's be honest: $30,000 is nothing to Shuffle. The reputational cost of keeping this thread alive and unresolved is already worth far more than just paying OP what he's owed.

[pvzera1]

Given his willingness to stay actively involved in the case and continue pushing for clarification and resolution, I have no issue with Rating Place acting as mediator for the dispute moving forward during holydarkness' absence.

At this stage, I simply want the case to continue progressing toward a fair conclusion instead of remaining stalled indefinitely.

[Rating Place]

I think you made a strong point saying that holy was also part of the binding agreement. It would be unfair of him not to make a call.

Because of your relentless harassment and insistence that Holy is doing something wrong, he decided to step away and give you a chance to put things back on the right course. You have 66 posts in this thread. That's more than OP themselves. From a point of no power you tried to dictate actions, terms and conditions. Well, now you're in power -- make the most of it.

Since the main goal should be finding a fair and final resolution to this dispute, I have no issue with Rating Place stepping in and mediating the case as well if he is genuinely willing to help.

I don’t think that Shuffle is going to agree to do binding arbitration with anyone but holy now that all the evidence has been presented showing your innocence. Holy started this binding contract and is part of the terms that he wrote up. Holy initiated the arbitration to be binding. He has to finish the case.

Don't back out now.

Sure, I have no problem doing it if both parties agree.  If they agree, then I need Shuffle to confirm that the accusation is match fixing and show proof as to why it’s valid. Then we could discuss the case. If need be, I’ll question the OP.

You were given the go-ahead. Let's see these terrific mediator skills you claim to have on display. This is your time to shine. Show us how its done.

I’d have no problem doing it. But it doesn’t work to jump in when binding arbitration was already agreed upon with another. Still, if Shuffle agrees, I’m happy to look at their evidence and complete the arbitration.

All holy had to do is look at the box score and game flow and say the game wasn’t fixed. Instead he did double blind studies and asked for self videos. You thought his questions were relevant and progress was being made.

Holy has to learn to just look at the accusation and for proof of the accusation. If it seems valid then get the players side. It’s really simple when you’re honest.

[nutildah]

I’d have no problem doing it. But it doesn’t work to jump in when binding arbitration was already agreed upon. Still, if Shuffle agrees, I’m happy to look at their evidence and complete the arbitration.

You railroaded this thread with your relentless trolling of Holydarkness, making it impossible to have a genuine discussion about the actual issues at hand. You insist that you are the only one who knows anything. Well, now you've been given permission to act as arbitrator for this case. You got exactly what you wanted and now it seems like you're pussing out.

[Rating Place]

I’d have no problem doing it. But it doesn’t work to jump in when binding arbitration was already agreed upon. Still, if Shuffle agrees, I’m happy to look at their evidence and complete the arbitration.

You railroaded this thread with your relentless trolling of Holydarkness, making it impossible to have a genuine discussion about the actual issues at hand. You insist that you are the only one who knows anything. Well, now you've been given permission to act as arbitrator for this case. You got exactly what you wanted and now it seems like you're pussing out.

kneepads, if not for the box score and game flow, he would have been guilty of match fixing.

The evidence is why others said the match wasn’t fixed. Just stay out of the thread with your BS.

[nutildah]

The evidence is why others said the match wasn’t fixed. Just stay out of the thread with your BS.

Alright, so its official. You don't want to be mediator. You just want to cause a lot of noise and attract attention to yourself. You are utterly useless.

[Rating Place]

The evidence is why others said the match wasn’t fixed. Just stay out of the thread with your BS.

Alright, so its official. You don't want to be mediator. You just want to cause a lot of noise and attract attention to yourself. You are utterly useless.

kneepads, stop following me around. Shuffle won’t agree.

[nutildah]

kneepads, stop following me around. Shuffle won’t agree.

And given the plethora of idiotic things you've said in this thread, why would they ever agree? That's the problem smart guy. Nobody wants to work with you. Now kindly fuck off.

[Rating Place]

kneepads, stop following me around. Shuffle won’t agree.

And given the plethora of idiotic things you've said in this thread, why would they ever agree? That's the problem smart guy. Nobody wants to work with you. Now kindly fuck off.

knee pads working overtime for the DTs. Please stay out.

[nutildah]

kneepads, stop following me around. Shuffle won’t agree.

And given the plethora of idiotic things you've said in this thread, why would they ever agree? That's the problem smart guy. Nobody wants to work with you. Now kindly fuck off.

knee pads, go look at my thread. I do it all the time. I don’t beg for it to be binding. Seriously, go away. You’re a troll.

You don't actually do jack except for be a pain in Holy's ass. You're as relentless of a liar as you are useless.

[Rating Place]

I apologize to everyone for the clutter. I'm not replying to knee pads anymore. You can see by his trust that he's not credible and he’s trying to portray a false narrative as we are just waiting for holy.

[nutildah]

The guy with literally 71 unprompted posts in this thread is finally apologizing for the clutter.

1. Rating Place: 71 posts
2. pvzera1: 61 posts
3. holydarkness: 50 posts
4. baba2020: 25 posts
5. rohang: 17 posts
6. nutildah: 12 posts
7. T1HGO: 8 posts
8. Mahdirakib: 5 posts
9. Pmalek: 4 posts
10. degen01: 4 posts

As he just copy/pasted my untrusted feedback for the 4th time, I don't think he learned a single thing here unfortunately.

Sorry your case got hijacked by this idiot, OP. If its any consolation I don't think its over with yet.

[Rating Place]

edit - posted accidentally but since I started.


  It's that way in all the value betting, arbitrage, fixed matches, anything sports. After a few weeks, I'll likely be in there the most looking for and presenting evidence if it hasn't been solved.

"I, holydarkness, hereby bind myself to the mediation agreement set by Shuffle, pvzera1, and myself, that the evidences given by Tim or other staff of Shuffle may never leave my device, shared, discussed with other entities, or any other form of revelation or use, other than to pull the verdict. And that will pursue the evidences from each sides to support each of their narratives."
By knot of three, thus shall it be.

[Little Mouse]

Alright, so its official. You don't want to be mediator. You just want to cause a lot of noise and attract attention to yourself. You are utterly useless.

I would rather say he is getting paid for posting nonsense on a Shuffle accusation thread. I just checked his first 2 pages of post. Despite a lot of other ongoing cases here, his interest is only in Shuffle.

[holydarkness]

Given his willingness to stay actively involved in the case and continue pushing for clarification and resolution, I have no issue with Rating Place acting as mediator for the dispute moving forward during holydarkness' absence.

At this stage, I simply want the case to continue progressing toward a fair conclusion instead of remaining stalled indefinitely.

The third party bowed down due to reasons that first party accepted. One that call themselves as one that have been mediationg far before the earlier mediator, one that managed to get players actually paid.

The new mediator offered their service and the player [first party] agreed to it, perhaps convinced by one's mediating capability as repetitively said in many threads, as well as the contribution given in this.

So, I believe overseers of this case can also see and agree that a new agreement has been made that the other mediator will  handle and show to public their years-standing reputation.

The spotlight, has been shone to One, and One is now under strict observation of the overseers: what One say and what One do [evasion to assume duty in any form of excuse, included] and delays measured in days of One's inaction when the agreement made.

The longer One delay and deny and try to weasel out, the more Overseers see what One really are.

[Rating Place]

Holy you backed out because you know the player is right and are shifting blame. People had to post on the part of the OP to disprove the accusations because you kept changing.

1. You accused the player of match fixing. Evidence showed the OP innocent.

2. You said the player did Integrity Betting. There’s no such thing.

3. You said that 2 players played from the same account. Evidence showed same device.

You thought it was an easy case because of a flag.

Baba20 called it. You never had any arbitration power. The whole thing was a charade.

In case it was real, will you agree and hand down the binding arbitration decision based on the conclusion that I come to after talking with both parties? I’ll post publicly why for all to see.

You must have final say since all parties are bound by your decision.

Alright, so its official. You don't want to be mediator. You just want to cause a lot of noise and attract attention to yourself. You are utterly useless.

I would rather say he is getting paid for posting nonsense on a Shuffle accusation thread. I just checked his first 2 pages of post. Despite a lot of other ongoing cases here, his interest is only in Shuffle.

I only get involved in sportsbook cases where I’m sure the player is right and normally wait a couple of weeks before saying anything. What is the OP guilty of?

[holydarkness]

Holy you [darkness swallow]

The sand of time is about fourty six hours from trickling down and the last grain of sand rolled to the other side of the glass. One should return after the time mercifully given, reach its end. But One should know that One's latest post... shows how unnecessary and eye opening One is and when the last grain fall, this humble servant of the forum shall dissect them in clear.

In the mean time, One is advised to begin One's own journey as One nominated and accepted as the mediator. One shall source One's own sources and doubts, and answers, one that should be none of One's fret, for One claimed to be master in this field, years advanced of this humble servant of the forum.

[Rating Place]

Holy you [darkness swallow]

The sand of time is about fourty six hours from trickling down and the last grain of sand rolled to the other side of the glass. One should return after the time mercifully given, reach its end. But One should know that One's latest post... shows how unnecessary and eye opening One is and when the last grain fall, this humble servant of the forum shall dissect them in clear.

In the mean time, One is advised to begin One's own journey as One nominated and accepted as the mediator. One shall source One's own sources and doubts, and answers, one that should be none of One's fret, for One claimed to be master in this field, years advanced of this humble servant of the forum.

stop being such a coward. Will you abide by my decision or not?

Your contract says the OP can’t go to another arbiter. You have to hand down the final decision.

[holydarkness]

stop being such a coward. Will you abide by my decision or not?

This servant of the forum's decision, is currently means naught. It is the overseers opinion that need to be put into equation. Though the opinion of theirs is a perfect mirror to One's capability to draw conclusion. And the overseers' judgment into One's decision, is permanent. One is advised to take One's decision not so lightly, rather in a long calculated, thoroughly thought, and strong in basis.

[Rating Place]

stop being such a coward. Will you abide by my decision or not?

This servant of the forum's decision, is currently means naught. It is the overseers opinion that need to be put into equation. Though the opinion of theirs is a perfect mirror to One's capability to draw conclusion. And the overseers' judgment into One's decision, is permanent. One is advised to take One's decision not so lightly, rather in a long calculated, thoroughly thought, and strong in basis.

You’re always long winded and say nothing. If you agree to go by my decision then I’ll do it. I’m not going to waste everyone’s time unless you hand down my decision.

I’ll post it on the forum for review before becoming final so all can have an opinion.