Trying to collect a lotto winning with a fake ticket

[EluguHcman]

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

Hmm... How is that possibly to be attempted to even give it a try first is what is stumbling in my mind because I can not imagine how this person can be mentally okay and take such risk.
It can also be possible that the misconception may come from the system generating the ticket invoice which may be similar to the one judgement claimed to be the right winner.
I am also aware that some scammers are bold enough to rob even in the broad daylight.

The victim may probably have been too fast to regenerate the ticket invoice at the result announcement but if that is so, then he will never made it successful because he would neither not have other details of the right ticket of which they are the datas used to verify the ticket when presented to redeem the prize.

[imthegreat]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

It's hard to imagine anything more stupid. Of course, all lottery tickets have authenticity marks that are difficult to counterfeit, but this guy tried.
But that's not the whole point. The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize that lottery owners, knowing all the numbers drawn, know perfectly well whether a ticket won or not. And sometimes even the location where it is (was sold). Digitalization has long since easily automated all these processes, and he have to be a complete idiot not to know this.

[bubilas]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

This is astonishing stupidity, it blows my mind. This "lucky" person thought he could just make a ticket like that and get the money? LOL. And he thinks the lottery staff will just say "okay" and hand him the money. All the millions of dollars. I'm literally rolling on the floor from such naivety and audacity. And as the guys above rightly point out, all the tickets have been tracked for a long time, and it's stupid to think anyone can forge a ticket and go and claim their winnings. Tracking is done, because this is a lot of money, comparable to banks or casinos.

[nimogsm]

I haven't seen anything like this in my country yet. However, there were also interesting cases last year: several people's deputies declared winnings from sports betting in their declarations, and many people wrote about it in the press. It's a good way to legalize dubious money, since it's unlikely anyone will check the declarations.Law enforcement agencies don't care about this and don't care about this moment.

[Porfirii]

I would say that I have heard some similar news in my country about cases that happened decades ago, when verification systems were much more rudimentary than they are now. Nowadays this is unthinkable that it would work, in addition to the great risk it entails because it is considered the crime of forgery of a public document.

By the way, what's wrong with you in the Philippines? Lately the news you share is always surprising

[rdluffy]

Here in Brazil, I don't remember ever seeing anyone try to claim a prize at an official location, haha
That person was both very brave and foolish to try to claim the prize that way, since a ticket can easily be identified as fake by a simple system

What has happened many times, though, is the sale of fake tickets to consumers, that’s happened a lot
And there’s also the scam involving the sale of a “winning” ticket, where a criminal sells a fake ticket supposedly marked as a winner to a victim

[Beparanf]

By the way, what's wrong with you in the Philippines? Lately the news you share is always surprising

Surprise.surprise we have the most corrupt government in the history of the Philippines. People here are dumb to vote the current president which is the son of the most corrupt president of the Philippines before he get the position on his current term.

Most of the government officials placed on all sectors pf our government including the gambling industry are full of corrupt officials so even the states lottery are now being rigged.

Expect more wicked news from my country. We even have the highest price fluctuation on oil due to middle east conflict.

[Die_empty]

It's hard to imagine anything more stupid. Of course, all lottery tickets have authenticity marks that are difficult to counterfeit, but this guy tried.
But that's not the whole point. The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize that lottery owners, knowing all the numbers drawn, know perfectly well whether a ticket won or not. And sometimes even the location where it is (was sold). Digitalization has long since easily automated all these processes, and he have to be a complete idiot not to know this.

The guy is either mentally unstable or a foolish scammer. Someone who wants to carry out such a scam would have to do it in a sophisticated way. I read in the articles that he tried to alter the ticket with a ball pen. He even came to claim the prize after it had been collected, which shows his low acumen.

A closer examination revealed clear signs of tampering, including handwritten entries made using a ballpen, prompting validation by the PCSO Data Center and Security Office, which confirmed that the ticket had been altered,”

How on earth would he expect that Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) officials would hand over to him $2.86 million with a highly mutilated ticket? First, he should be evaluated mentally, and if he is okay, let him face the law and receive a fair punishment.

[TopTort777]

Honestly, I still dont understand the possibility of collecting a whopping sum of 172 million reward using a fake ticket. The chances are 100 to 0, unless a technical issue occurs or the system is hacked. The story isn't complete, more investigation should be done, that is, if someone working in the lotto company has a hand in it.

You never know your chances until you try Even though his attempt is hilarious, he still had chances that more stupid employee would distribution without any verification. Most important, did that smart dude violated anything? Tried and failed. He will get a verbal punishment and public shame and will be let free to go. The story would be more hilarious if lotto would have given him 172 millions of fake or monopoly money

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

Each gambling ticket has a unique verification code, and with the help of technology, that ticket verification code is the only means through which a casino that identify the actual gambler who predicted the exact bet. So hearing the story about a random working into a casino company to claim a winning ticket really sounds crazy, because without the exact verification codes, despite having the exact winning numbers, how is he going to proof he actually owns the slip?. And one thing I love now on recent gambling platforms is the fact that each casino now has a unique slip through which they issue to gambling who place a bet, and if such slip is altered, it will surely be known, because all slip has its duplicate database online. And if they can't find yours online, it will be a clear proof that it was fake.

[Patikno]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

As far as I know, when someone buys a lottery ticket, they will be asked for identification details, and one reason is to ensure the ticket buyer is old enough to play the lottery. Whether it is for online, or offline purchases, don't they all ask for identification details? So, I assume identity verification, and the registration are also intended to prevent ticket fraud. By the way, I want to know; Can someone who steals someone lottery ticket claim their prize (if they win)?

Well, I don't really know because I have never played the lottery, although it was once legal in my country, as I recall.

[KiaKia]

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

Each gambling ticket has a unique verification code, and with the help of technology, that ticket verification code is the only means through which a casino that identify the actual gambler who predicted the exact bet. So hearing the story about a random working into a casino company to claim a winning ticket really sounds crazy, because without the exact verification codes, despite having the exact winning numbers, how is he going to proof he actually owns the slip?. And one thing I love now on recent gambling platforms is the fact that each casino now has a unique slip through which they issue to gambling who place a bet, and if such slip is altered, it will surely be known, because all slip has its duplicate database online. And if they can't find yours online, it will be a clear proof that it was fake.

Is this all? Are you saying with just code they will release fund to the person? That sounds unbelievable, I've never gamble in a casino before so I will never know how true this is or not.

If all it takes is the code then people working in the company can also still it, no wonder some few cases came up in my state where the person working in the betting company steals customer funds.

This shouldn't be happening with the rate of technology that we have today, like I've said I will never know, because I don't go to any gambling location to gamble, I've always been a online gambler.

[robelneo]

The guy does not understand how a lottery works. It's not that they are just giving you a ticket and that's all, the lottery central system knows the location of the winner and the time it was bought. After the results, they know exactly the location of the winner and what time he bought the ticket, not to mention all the tickets has a special markings making it impossible to fake it.
Since it made a headline, I doubt another scammer will use this method; there should be an inside job for you to present a fake ticket, and they confirmed it to be the winning ticket.

[rachael9385]

I don't think that this guy understands anything about gambling because if he did this is something that his common sense should let him know isn't going to work. There is no way to bypass the verification code because this is what is used to know if a ticket is actually authentic. perhaps he just wanted to see if he was going to be lucky with it or like I said initially he does not really know anything about gambling.

[CryptSafe]

I would say that I have heard some similar news in my country about cases that happened decades ago, when verification systems were much more rudimentary than they are now. Nowadays this is unthinkable that it would work, in addition to the great risk it entails because it is considered the crime of forgery of a public document.

By the way, what's wrong with you in the Philippines? Lately the news you share is always surprising

Obviously, the news coming from them is very surprising. The two previous news items that were shared on this platform were very shocking. The case of a boy who killed his mother just because she refused to give him money to gamble, and that of a man whose wife reported him to the local police for robbing a small store with a fake rubber gun because he lost all his money that day and could not take anything home, and he resolved to rob a store. And yet another on someone trying to claim the lotto win with a fake ticket. Well, it is good he was caught, and this would serve as a lesson to those who have been into such and also to those who are planning to go into it because one day they would definitely be caught in the act.

[348Judah]

Don't mind people with their kind of shady behaviors, they think they can always escape any attempt made against a system,  has it been that the gambling casinos too were not smart in setting up security measures, many of them would have gone bankrupt, because there are several attempts to cheat on them, I hope they got to apprehend the scammer on his attempt to claim lotto fake ticket.

[acroman08]

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company?

Maybe it is possible, but with the kind of security checks we now have in this day and age, it's probably extremely hard to do.

“A closer examination revealed clear signs of tampering, including handwritten entries made using a ballpen, prompting validation by the PCSO Data Center and Security Office, which confirmed that the ticket had been altered,”

What did he think was gonna happen? Sometimes people are too greedy or desperate to realise that what they are doing is too stupid to not be noticed.

[Peanutswar]

This is the first time there is a person who have the bravery to give a falsification ticket on the lotto lottery in the Philippines most of the people are just waiting for the combination of their winning combination and he things hes in the movie of heist its his mistake instead he get directly arrested by the officials instead of claiming the prize this is also considering a crime of using a tampered details and of course its the PCSO's verification too it is a large amount of money they need an authentication and verification in their side.

[DrBeer]

This is the first time I have read something like this in our country in over 4 decades of lotto operation

A guy tried to collect the 172 million reward by presenting a fake ticket. I don't know if he is just ignorant of the verification process or a pure scammer trying to scam a government-owned lottery. It's too bad the prize has been collected by the rightful owner.

A man was arrested for allegedly faking a Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) lottery ticket to claim a P172-million jackpot prize, the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) said on Tuesday.
...“Verification through the official lotto database and cotejo system immediately established that the winning combination had already been claimed by its rightful owner,”

Man nabbed for faking PCSO lotto ticket to claim P172-M prize

With the modern verification process, is it possible to scam the lottery company? Something like this already happened in your country?

To be honest, it’s difficult to answer the question of how to effectively “forge a lottery ticket,” but it’s safe to say that a genuine forgery of a well-designed system is VERY difficult. I assume that a lottery ticket has not only a number or combination that determines the win but also certain security mechanisms:
- the ticket itself may have security features comparable to those of banknotes
- the combination/number has a second verification code, something like a checksum with a fake calculation algorithm.
- protection against attempts to alter the text printed on the ticket itself.
But... it turned out to be simpler

“A closer examination revealed clear signs of tampering, including handwritten entries made using a ballpoint pen, prompting validation by the PCSO Data Center and Security Office, which confirmed that the ticket had been altered,” i.e., he simply made a crude attempt to correct the data on the ticket with a ballpoint pen"

[Frankolala]

I don't think that I have heard of such in my country but the man should know that it's not going to be possible for him to claim the money with a fake ticket because verification will be done. The government isn't that stupid to just give out money with verifying if he's the right winner. However, I believe similar case must have happened in the past that thought the government some lessons.