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Today at 07:13:16 AM
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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money. If gambler will only be winning, he can get "drunk" with his success, become more relax or blind at taking decisions, all that could lead to a bigger problem and addiction. I do believe that addiction is formed faster when gambler win, because he cant get enough (losers often try to take back what was their and leave).

 
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Today at 07:21:50 AM
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Has that happened to you too, or were you able to control yourself before reaching that point?

Many people who gamble actually never really learn, even after experiencing big loss or worst moment, because there is always urge to try again and hope to get the money back. i myself have experience in that position, feeling want to stop every time i lose, but still continue and repeat the same cycle. Until finally i realize the only way to really stop is by cutting access, including no longer keep or prepare money for deposit, because as long as there is loophole, the desire to return always appear. now i playing slot only when i feel i'm ready with any losses, if i under emotion before gamble i stay away from any gamble.

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Today at 07:26:01 AM
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Let’s be honest, most gamblers don’t really care about limits when they are still winning or when the losses are still small.

Being sincere, everyone will want to give the last attempt to make so as to get the opportunity of winning at last, but one thing we don't often put in mind is that the more we attempted the higher the risk of losing more until we realize that we have gone so far, to give up will be difficult while to continue will be additional losses, this is the mentality that affected most gamblers.

Has that happened to you too, or were you able to control yourself before reaching that point?

It does not occur to me because I always gamble based on my plan and I don't see it as a way of chasing after losses, instead, I only choose to gamble because I wanted to have fun and as long as I am getting the fun I can continue gambling until I am done for the day.

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Today at 07:30:44 AM
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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money. If gambler will only be winning, he can get "drunk" with his success, become more relax or blind at taking decisions, all that could lead to a bigger problem and addiction. I do believe that addiction is formed faster when gambler win, because he cant get enough (losers often try to take back what was their and leave).
Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.

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Today at 08:45:19 AM
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It's because who doesn't want to feel that win? It's just a normal human behaviour to go and chase for more wins as much as we can. But the thing is that we don't look at our losses, all we remember is our big win. But if someone will have to account for everything, it might be that we are still in the negative side of it?

And with that, I don't think that gamblers learn from our losses. All we wanted to is to comeback again and either we win it back or not. So for me, even if we say that we might have learn something out of our losses, still though, we are going to find a way to recover and so we forget all the discipline that we preach.
One of the reasons why they do not learn from the losses they experience in my opinion is because the urge to want to win this big is stronger so they can ignore the fact that the actual loss should be a lesson for themselves.
The normal behavior of pursuing victory is greed and yes it is a behavior that may exist in everyone, but basically this greed is not good because usually the end result is disappointing, that's why we must be able to control ourselves, especially not being greedy when gambling.

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Today at 09:19:30 AM
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Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.

To draw conclusions and learn something, you first have to make a mistake. But I think this is more difficult in gambling than in other activities, because luck plays a big role in addition to your experience. Mistakes can help you learn to manage your bankroll and your emotions when you lose, but they won't help you avoid losing. For me, gambling is so complicated that I don't think I can make money. In fact, sometimes I take a break from betting even if I'm not losing because I get tired and need a rest.

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Today at 09:31:32 AM
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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money. If gambler will only be winning, he can get "drunk" with his success, become more relax or blind at taking decisions, all that could lead to a bigger problem and addiction. I do believe that addiction is formed faster when gambler win, because he cant get enough (losers often try to take back what was their and leave).
Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.

Well that's normally happening on the scene since there are times that people are so aggressive especially if they didn't taste a huge defeat. But once they ever felt those experience and hard for them to process and get stressed with it.

Maybe this time they think about those mistakes they made and try to correct then made possible good approach next time so they can avoid experience a devastating losses again.

Many people somehow learn from their bad or good experiences on gambling.

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Today at 09:41:55 AM
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To draw conclusions and learn something, you first have to make a mistake. But I think this is more difficult in gambling than in other activities, because luck plays a big role in addition to your experience. Mistakes can help you learn to manage your bankroll and your emotions when you lose, but they won't help you avoid losing. For me, gambling is so complicated that I don't think I can make money. In fact, sometimes I take a break from betting even if I'm not losing because I get tired and need a rest.
Exactly, gambling will always be there, its just better for one to choose their peace than to satisfy their urge, which its not important and will lead to one to more problems in their lives. Most people don't even realize the implications that it will cause on them, if they don't avoid some mistakes in gambling because some mistakes are not really meant to happen, instead of people to learn from their mistakes, they will still become worst in what they are doing, and its true, gambling is so complicated that one can't even know what to do in it, but for the benefits of gamblers health and peace, they are to gamble but not with the intention to make money from it.

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Today at 09:45:25 AM
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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money. If gambler will only be winning, he can get "drunk" with his success, become more relax or blind at taking decisions, all that could lead to a bigger problem and addiction. I do believe that addiction is formed faster when gambler win, because he cant get enough (losers often try to take back what was their and leave).
Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.

Well that's normally happening on the scene since there are times that people are so aggressive especially if they didn't taste a huge defeat. But once they ever felt those experience and hard for them to process and get stressed with it.

Maybe this time they think about those mistakes they made and try to correct then made possible good approach next time so they can avoid experience a devastating losses again.

Many people somehow learn from their bad or good experiences on gambling.

I think that players learn discipline and how to manage their finances only when they become aware of their situation and accept responsibility for their actions. This is what is often called taking an adult approach.For some people, it takes only a few losses to understand this. Others get caught up in the pursuit of an unpredictable win. When there is no guarantee of success, the uncertainty can be far more engaging and addictive than a clear and reliable way of earning money.However, simply understanding these psychological mechanisms can help people make better decisions and approach gambling more responsibly.

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Today at 09:48:51 AM
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To draw conclusions and learn something, you first have to make a mistake. But I think this is more difficult in gambling than in other activities, because luck plays a big role in addition to your experience. Mistakes can help you learn to manage your bankroll and your emotions when you lose, but they won't help you avoid losing. For me, gambling is so complicated that I don't think I can make money. In fact, sometimes I take a break from betting even if I'm not losing because I get tired and need a rest.
Making a mistake in something, especially gambling doesn’t guarantee that you’ll automatically learn from That experience, there are gamblers who repeatedly make one mistake over and over again and when faced with the same situation again, they’ll still likely make the same mistake again, this is because to them, they are not really making any mistakes but just trying their luck, it’s true that gambling is about luck, but it’s important to know how far to push your luck and when to draw the line.

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Today at 09:49:25 AM
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Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.
Its necessary for one to learn how to control their bankroll and their emotions for them not to gamble based on their emotions but based on the rule and its right for them. Also, being able to manage the risks involved, helps them to be able to stop themselves while gambling, as they can also gamble with the money they can afford to lose, that way they will enjoy the game and make every necessary adjustments for them to sustain that draw because it will harm them if not controlled or manage.

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Today at 10:09:18 AM
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Has that happened to you too, or were you able to control yourself before reaching that point?

Many people who gamble actually never really learn, even after experiencing big loss or worst moment, because there is always urge to try again and hope to get the money back. i myself have experience in that position, feeling want to stop every time i lose, but still continue and repeat the same cycle. Until finally i realize the only way to really stop is by cutting access, including no longer keep or prepare money for deposit, because as long as there is loophole, the desire to return always appear. now i playing slot only when i feel i'm ready with any losses, if i under emotion before gamble i stay away from any gamble.
Even after repeated bad experiences, gamblers actually follow those restrictions very rarely. I am also a victim of this because I have faced some situations during gambling that make it difficult to stop gambling because there is a desire to recover the lost funds or because the amount of losses increases and the desire to take revenge makes me gamble more.
After each loss and the wallet is empty, the attitude is to never gamble again but the addiction and recovery attitude shows the tendency to continue gambling. Maintaining control in gambling is important and to impose this control, you need to follow the bankroll only then will you develop the attitude to stop.











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Today at 10:48:12 AM
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Its necessary for one to learn how to control their bankroll and their emotions for them not to gamble based on their emotions but based on the rule and its right for them. Also, being able to manage the risks involved, helps them to be able to stop themselves while gambling, as they can also gamble with the money they can afford to lose, that way they will enjoy the game and make every necessary adjustments for them to sustain that draw because it will harm them if not controlled or manage.
Gamblers have one job to themselves, betting the right way, and making calculative steps in gaming sessions, self negligence forces drastic drop of emotional control to players and it's more like a foul way of participating in gambling.

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Today at 11:02:18 AM
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It’s always “I can stop anytime” or “I’ll just recover this one first.” But once the loss becomes heavy, that’s when all the lessons suddenly become clear. Bankroll management, self-control, knowing when to stop, all those things we ignored before.
Funny thing is, many of us already know the advice. We just don’t take it seriously until it hurts.
So maybe gambling discipline is not really learned from reading tips, but from getting burned once or twice.
Yeah, unfortunally I think there is actually a lot of truth in this. Especially after winning, gamblers can get a feeling that everything is under control. They start thinking they are making the right decisions, while in reality it could simply be a lucky streak. And when losses begin, another trap appears - the desire to recover the money first and only stop afterwards. That’s usually the exact moment when all the rules they set for themselves get broken. But the problem is that not everyone learns the right lesson from such experiences.
And of course, it’s always better to learn this earlier than to pay a very expensive price for that lesson.


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Today at 11:13:07 AM
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Gamblers have one job to themselves, betting the right way, and making calculative steps in gaming sessions, self negligence forces drastic drop of emotional control to players and it's more like a foul way of participating in gambling.
Much easier said than done. A lot gamblers actually do plan from the beginning to gamble the right way, in fact they’ve had every single steps and procedures already mapped out on paper, but when faced with real situations, sticking to those plans and rules becomes almost impossible as it becomes easier for them to allow their emotions control and the ability to make decisions for them. This is the fate of many gamblers, while there are those who choose to walk that path intentionally, there are also those who don’t even know how they got there.

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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money. If gambler will only be winning, he can get "drunk" with his success, become more relax or blind at taking decisions, all that could lead to a bigger problem and addiction. I do believe that addiction is formed faster when gambler win, because he cant get enough (losers often try to take back what was their and leave).
Everything boils down to knowledge, and by this, I mean what you know about gambling, and it's unfortunate that gambling is not like trading where one needs a mentor to teach them how to gamble, and when they want to enter the market with real money, the mentor will be there to guide the gambler, this is not available in gambling and it's one of the reasons why most gamblers fail, when they have no one with better experience to guide them, and they can't even participate in discussions like this to learn, they mostly fail trying to teach their own self everything like..

The importance of gambling and ensuring they are within the rules, one is such rules being to gamble responsible and also not risk more than they can afford to lose.
When a gambler somehow knows or learns the secrets and rules of gambling, they will need to lose or fail to learn or gain experience, they learn from what has happened to others.

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Today at 11:26:55 AM
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Sometimes people need to lose or fail to get experience or learn. Some really need it have bad way to become better. In gambling this works also, but this is very situational. I do believe that gambler need to lose to learn discipline or to understand value of money.
It is one thing to loose and a totally different thing to loose badly and to learn from your losses, you must not wait till things have gone really bad before you learn your lessons and gamble in a more responsible way. there are better options like learning from the mistakes of others and ensuring that you don't make such mistakes. if it gets to the point that you are already addicted before discovering yourself, you will then know that somethings are better not allowed to happen.

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Today at 11:28:12 AM
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Suffering are lessons,learn through hard way , that's how some people learn how to stay discipline, some gambler let greed and urge to make quick money from gambling control them. At times you allow people to go through difficulties, when they experience it they will learn from it, experience they say is the best teacher. Be a smart smart gambler, you don't have to lose so much money to stay discipline, read and learn from past gambling addicts, that alone will help you to stay discipline in gambling, they are experienced failure in gambling they have the experience to teach us how to stay discipline in gambling. Losing is normal in gambling, losing everyday is not a nice thing, if you're not winning,then don't lose much, stay out of gambling for some times.

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Today at 11:43:52 AM
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Isn't this normal? Most of us are learning from mistakes, even non-gambling, which, if we talk about this gambling, mistakes = losses. Gambling is an expensive mistake as it involves real money, hard-earned money.
So for me, there are a lot of type of gamblings especially those gamblings that full rely on lucks, and sometimes what we can control here or improve is how we manage the risk, how huge our bets everytime and learning when to stop or to continue.
Its necessary for one to learn how to control their bankroll and their emotions for them not to gamble based on their emotions but based on the rule and its right for them. Also, being able to manage the risks involved, helps them to be able to stop themselves while gambling, as they can also gamble with the money they can afford to lose, that way they will enjoy the game and make every necessary adjustments for them to sustain that draw because it will harm them if not controlled or manage.
It is necessary for every gambler who wants to thrive and be a profitable gambler without addiction issue/financial learn how to control their emotion, psychology, and more, because these are what always trigger the dopamine that causes gambling addiction. Another one is the hereditary gambling addiction in the gambler's family.

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Today at 11:45:41 AM
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Suffering are lessons,learn through hard way , that's how some people learn how to stay discipline, some gambler let greed and urge to make quick money from gambling control them. At times you allow people to go through difficulties, when they experience it they will learn from it, experience they say is the best teacher. Be a smart smart gambler, you don't have to lose so much money to stay discipline, read and learn from past gambling addicts, that alone will help you to stay discipline in gambling, they are experienced failure in gambling they have the experience to teach us how to stay discipline in gambling. Losing is normal in gambling, losing everyday is not a nice thing, if you're not winning,then don't lose much, stay out of gambling for some times.

That's right, it's okay to lose, but only if the gambler immediately learns the lessons and does not forget them by ignoring this "pain". Because around each of us, among our friends, there are those strange guys and girls who constantly step on the same rake and do not draw any conclusions from it. They do stupid things over and over again, which cost them hard both emotionally and financially, but at the same time they keep repeating it all the time. And I guess I'll write it right that I don't believe that anyone learns from other people's mistakes at all.

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