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June 18, 2026, 01:53:32 PM
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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.

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June 18, 2026, 02:01:09 PM
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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.
I agree with you that the contribution of both of them is huge in the world of football. Ronaldo and Messi are the best players in the world in their respective fields. However, if we compare Messi's overall style of play and his achievements, I don't see any player in the world who can be compared to him right now . Messi has now reached such a high that even Ronaldo has no place to compare him to. Messi is above everything. The whole world has seen that he is moving forward with his strength and intelligence, leaving his age behind. In the first match of this World Cup, it proves that Messi is still the best of the bests.

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June 18, 2026, 02:09:09 PM
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Isn't this just an over-hype. Don't get me wrong, I love Messi. He is one of my fav players of all time. And yes, I consider him the GOAT because of his numerous achievements. But you can't say he is undisputed because of just this one game. Let's see his overall performance in the tournament before we jump into conclusions.

Maybe Algeria is a bad matchup for him, and he completely dominated because the game was in his favor (didn't watch the game BTW). So let's not just use this 1 game to draw our conclusions.
This reflects a wise assessment. Messi is a player with tremendous natural talent. His role in leading Argentina has been proven since the end of the Maradona era. Only Messi was able to rally the team to fight together, and at the age mentioned, Argentina finally lifted the World Cup trophy.

At the club level, Messi stands out for his achievements within a team. It is only with Barcelona that he has made a significant contribution to the club’s success in winning various trophies. Individually, Messi is outstanding and has earned numerous personal accolades. However, when playing for clubs other than Barcelona, Messi has not truly succeeded in winning trophies. Even so, Messi is the GOAT.
If winning against Algeria were to be used as the sole basis for concluding that he is the true GOAT, the tournament isn’t over yet.

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June 18, 2026, 02:11:31 PM
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Stop worshipping the people, be it a great football player or a good dancer, just don't do it because they exactly want you to go crazy and them and start fued with someone in the discussion of who is the great player of all time and blah blah. Messi is a great player that is a fact and no one can change but he is the best of all might be debatable and we can't even come into any conclusion because of different era and different level of competitveness involved in each game.
Messi is a great player but I don't even think he's the greatest of all. I know that everyone has there own opinion about this which can create a contention about for everyone but I dont think this is the right time op has to talk about this because we should be able to get a clearer view by the time we see the country that is going to end up winning the world cup.

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June 18, 2026, 03:00:16 PM
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As long as Messi is still playing football, he won't stop surprising us with his outstanding skills and his goal scoring techniques. I am not surprised because he has proven himself to be the best since he was a teen playing in Barcelona football academy. He's the one on the headlines after they won that match with his outstanding performance. Do you think that Argentina will be able to win the world cup again?

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June 18, 2026, 03:48:42 PM
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No, it's not overhyped. 38 years old, scored hatrick, and he's also on the way to be one of player with most of goals in WC.  He's still productive despite his age. It's something that you won't see it from majority of others players. Even Haaland was also calling Messi as a madman. I don't think it's just overhyped.
I don't think you quite understand what overhyped means. If something is overhyped that does not mean that it is bad without the hype. Something can be excellent and still be overhyped beyond of what it actually is, and this is the case here. Only hopeless fans believe that these guys are not overhyped, when most of their play style is quite boring and let's not even get into their personality and intelligence.  Cheesy Cheesy\

Hmm. I think if you were to base it on the current era, yes, he is the goat, but there are a lot of historical comparisons to eras like Pele.

Anyway, what I think we should hear from the teammates as well, like the leadership, mentality, and the clutch moments that would matter. I think this debate with Ronaldo and other legends is still ongoing.
Some people are like deranged religious zealots with these things, even when the players couldn't give a single fuck about them or their worship of them. As I have said, pure stats are completely useless. Do we declare someone the GOAT if he had the best stats of all time even if his play style is the most boring possible to have ever existed (I am not talking about Messi, but giving an exaggerated example)? People who would do that are retarded. There are players who have play styles that are significantly superior, interesting than others but for various reasons such as injuries, personal issues, team compatibility and similar may not have had the best stats in the end. To have the best stats you need to be an excellent player but a lot of things must align as well in your journey to make that happen, it is not only about being the best player.

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June 18, 2026, 04:52:40 PM
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As long as Messi is still playing football, he won't stop surprising us with his outstanding skills and his goal scoring techniques. I am not surprised because he has proven himself to be the best since he was a teen playing in Barcelona football academy. He's the one on the headlines after they won that match with his outstanding performance. Do you think that Argentina will be able to win the world cup again?
Of course, its possible for Argentina to win the World Cup, as far as Messi is still playing and for me, I think he is the GOAT, also he is still playing more better each time he is in the pitch. That is to say that age is just a number for him, because he is always at the right place and this is the satisfaction that fans have whenever they see him play and they are confident on the fact that they will whenever bank on him.

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June 18, 2026, 05:43:10 PM
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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.

Yes I agree with you. The person who thinks that Ronaldo plays better and Messi plays worse than Ronaldo or the person who thinks that Messi plays better than Ronaldo. They may be overstating these things or belittling one another. We must always accept one thing that Ronaldo and Messi are both very good players, the person who denies this is probably a big mistake. But yes on paper one may be better but Ronaldo and Messi are both very good players

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June 18, 2026, 05:47:21 PM
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To have the best stats you need to be an excellent player but a lot of things must align as well in your journey to make that happen, it is not only about being the best player.
I must say I completely agree with you because for players like Ronaldo and Messi they were very lucky that they had a very good playing career that was not ridden with a lot of injuries, and then they played in teams that complimented their pattern of play with good coaches which must have contributed to the statistics that they both have. Many other players did not have that opportunity because their careers were injury ridden and that dropped their fitness level and some of them did not have team that were good enough to compliment their pattern of playing or even lucky to have good coaches.

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June 18, 2026, 05:54:30 PM
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Isn't this just an over-hype. Don't get me wrong, I love Messi. He is one of my fav players of all time. And yes, I consider him the GOAT because of his numerous achievements. But you can't say he is undisputed because of just this one game. Let's see his overall performance in the tournament before we jump into conclusions.

Maybe Algeria is a bad matchup for him, and he completely dominated because the game was in his favor (didn't watch the game BTW). So let's not just use this 1 game to draw our conclusions.
Regardless of the team they played against, he has proven himself once again to be the greatest footballer of all time. This is not about hype, it is about reality, his performance at this age is superb and he scored three goals in one single match, I don't like joining the conversation of who is better between him and Ronaldo, because I know that both of them have talent and they have individual brilliance even though they play in different position, but with this performance against Algeria, I believed that Messi is the greatest footballer of all time, and I will not be surprised if he lead Argentina to another world cup quarterfinal or semifinal again this year.

We should be expecting more of good performance from Messi, and also from Ronaldo because I will expect an impressive performance from Ronaldo in their next match because they need to win their next match to qualify to the knockout stage of this tournament.

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June 18, 2026, 06:37:24 PM
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Lionel Messi has shown to the world once again for the outmost time and being the only player to have participated in the FIFA world cup 6th times, at thirty-eight (38) years he has once again showed why he should be considered as the Greatest player of all-time (GOAT) with an outstanding performance of 9.4 rating, 80 minutes played, 3 goals scored and 5 shots against Algeria before walking off the pitch with the Man of the Match (MOTM) award once again.

Lionel Messi  (The GOAT) has also again shows that he still has it and should never be compared to any player in the world because there has never been and will never be any player on earth that will or will ever be better than Lionel Messi, there is also no player on earth that holds individual award than Lionel Messi and there will never be.

The result and performance of theis current FIFA world cup should end the debate and comparison of messi with any other player. Congratulations to the GOAT on securing the Argentine side with a victory and a bargged 3 point
In my view, I think that debate ended during the last world cup in Qatar with Lionel Messi lifting the most coveted trophy in world football.

I'm not surprised about Messi's performance at with his current age, it shows how talented the Argentine super star is irrespective of his age, he has also proven that age can not be a barrier to his quest to help his country secure another world cup title and just maybe we might end at seeing a repeat of the last world cup finals between the French and the Argentines.

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June 18, 2026, 06:45:13 PM
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Whoever has to admit it, the old goat made a good performance again on the field, who would have thought that against Algeria this could be his first step back and be mentioned everywhere again after so long not so talked about in my opinion, after all this world cup is sure any achievement will be the main highlight especially for the goat.

The way he dribbled and scored was like something that was made for him, despite being old he seemed to say that I am still worthy and capable and can even be better than anyone, but I wonder if that is the peak of his ability for now, let's watch in the next match.

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June 18, 2026, 06:59:27 PM
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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.
Both Ronaldo and Messi are probably at the same level as far as world football is concerned, I believe they are the two most valuable players left from the old generation and after they have left the stage there may not be any like them, both players are very unique in their own ways. Ronaldo is a goal machine whereas Lionel Messi is think tank, Messi has the ability to dictate a match and influence the outcome thereabouts, and Ronaldo can score the most incredible goal when you least expect, I don't think this comparison is necessary at this moment because the World Cup just started and it would be unfair to judge the Portuguese side with their first game because Lionel Messi's Argentina also experienced a similar fate in the last World Cup but still came out triumphantly against all odds.

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June 18, 2026, 07:00:52 PM
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Lionel Messi is indeed an exceptional player that keeps raising the bar in football. He is not only lucky as a player but very dedicated to the game and favored in the aspect that his not prone to injuries. I was not surprised by his exceptional performance in their match against Algeria because he has a penchant for African teams and in his entire career, he has a history of demolishing African teams right from his time in youth football. Whatever success Argentina will achieve this year will not be without his immeasurable contribution.

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June 18, 2026, 07:05:09 PM
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This Goat thing is an opinion when it comes to picking Messi over Cristiano and won't want to be dragged in this especially that both have their own strengths and weaknesses and have achieved alot in the world of football ⚽

And talking of rewriting history, can we also agree that Messi is naturally favoured such that red card calls are ignored and VAR with it's authority failed to make a call against him.. which shows the system has a soft spot for the so called GOAT 🐐

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June 18, 2026, 07:24:23 PM
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Isn't this just an over-hype. Don't get me wrong, I love Messi. He is one of my fav players of all time. And yes, I consider him the GOAT because of his numerous achievements. But you can't say he is undisputed because of just this one game. Let's see his overall performance in the tournament before we jump into conclusions.

Maybe Algeria is a bad matchup for him, and he completely dominated because the game was in his favor (didn't watch the game BTW). So let's not just use this 1 game to draw our conclusions.

Messi is not undesputed simply because of that one game; he is undesputed because of what he has done and what he continues to do. That game is just a show of why he is the greatest. Even if he doesn't have a good tournament, it would do nothing to his GOAT status. He is the only player to be awarded the best player of the World Cup in two different tournaments.
Whenever someone says "Messi is better than Ronaldo", people always interpret it to mean "Ronaldo is not good", but that is ot true. Ronaldo, at his peak, was an exceptional player, but he was just not at the level of Messi.
Messi plays football on a different level. He is the best creator, dribbler, and assist provider, and the best goal scorer. It's insane when you think about it.
See how he went to Inter Miami and took a team that was last on the table and won the league. These are things we watch in movies, not real life, but Messi is living it.

He has taken Argentina to 5 copa America finals and two world cup finals. These are not normal things.

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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.
If we consider the current forms of both of them, Messi is having the upper hand in this competition. The Saudi Professional League has better publicity than the Major League Soccer, making Ronaldo gain more attention. Scoring a hat trick in a World Cup game is a big achievement.

Meanwhile, Messi's rival Ronaldo, struggles to make an impact in the game between Portugal and DRC Congo. Both players are good, but this World Cup will be an unforgettable defining moment for the ratings of both players.

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June 18, 2026, 07:29:11 PM
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Messi's hat trick against Algeria was quite impressive honestly I loved it but the most surprising thing is Messi's ability to adapt at this age. At 38 he doesn't rely exclusively on pace like he did in his younger days. I wish he win this world cup and bring happiness to his fans and supporters. I don't think a single World Cup match should end all the goat debates. Everyone is arguing for Messi because of his longevity. Messi has been playing football for almost two decades and six World Cups which is very hard for a player to replicate. I hope it's not his last world cup.

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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.
Are you still offended by that? I'm very used to the fans' chatter, after all Messi and Ronaldo are eternal rivals even now in the world cup scene, it is definitely a part of the conversation in comparing them and seeing who is the best, and whether you like it or not you will hear, read and see it in any media, and that you have to understand, friend.
I agree that both of them are good players who are probably the pillars of soccer, because both of them bring a huge audience appeal, and that shows how big they both are.

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June 18, 2026, 08:07:28 PM
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A lot of people are getting the wrong idea of this, the comparison between Ronaldo and messi is becoming something else and a lot of people that support Messi are using this win to call it a clear proof that Messi is better and that is not true. Both players are actually good, Ronaldo had his moments and also made history as well, they are both doing great and the comparison is unnecessary.
Yeah, they are both great players, I will not dispute that fact at all..  They have both had their moments, broken records at some point, and made history in their own ways..
But regardless of all the comparisons, if I am to pick one of them, I will still go with Messi every time.. That is just my preference though..

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