🔓 Lock.com - Software isolation will replace the hardware wallet [PREVIEW]

[ZAINmalik75]

That has to be demonstrated through the product. A clear architecture diagram is not the same thing as a clear user experience.

Which part feels least intuitive to you at the moment: the separate signing device, pairing, or the backup process?

Well, for me, there is no least intuitive part because pairing won't be a hard task. Once the two devices are paired, the signing becomes easy, so that's also not so hard even for a non technical person. Although, for a normal person with a single device, it can be a problem, as this requires two devices.

It also depends on how you allow us to pair and sign. But a visual tutorial would be enough for a non technical person. Although, what if someone does not have two devices?

Can they run their signer in an isolated environment like a VM or something? Many smartphones and laptops can create a different user where they can disconnect it from the internet with some settings if possible, or a VM can do it, right? But still, so far, the experiences I have had, the more convenient it will be, the more adoption it can get.

[kawetsriyanto]

I'll try check around the mentioned local boards. This Ann has been up for a while, it doesn't actually take translators a lot of time to make an Announcement translation.

Indeed. It shouldn't take a too long time. I don't know whether there have been some translators to give the tasks for the local ANN translation.

By the way, we already have one of them:

Add a link to the Russian translation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5595628

I have seen it, thanks... Via QR, BT or local WiFi...
Hmmm, it's fine. As we proceed, I'll understand more about the project

Yep. Sure, you will understand it more if you keep learning and updating the information about the project.  

[uchegod-21]

I'll try check around the mentioned local boards. This Ann has been up for a while, it doesn't actually take translators a lot of time to make an Announcement translation.

Indeed. It shouldn't take a too long time. I don't know whether there have been some translators to give the tasks for the local ANN translation.

By the way, we already have one of them:

Add a link to the Russian translation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5595628

Yes, there is a translation already. I had thought there could be many translations now, but it seems like the translators haven't visited this thread yet. Most of them do not write in the technical side. It could be nice to tag the translators association.

I have seen it, thanks... Via QR, BT or local WiFi...
Hmmm, it's fine. As we proceed, I'll understand more about the project

Yep. Sure, you will understand it more if you keep learning and updating the information about the project.  

Yes, my eyes are here and I'll keep following every bit of the development stage. This is an interesting project.

It also depends on how you allow us to pair and sign. But a visual tutorial would be enough for a non technical person. Although, what if someone does not have two devices?

I support this idea. A video tutorial will save some souls to avoid complications for non technical users

[MainIbem]

Does the team have information on which theme translations need to be done? Some members might be able to help for free.

I also clicked on a particular language icon (pid) thinking it would take me to a link of a translated topic about lock but it took me to the forum's homepage, which mean no one has done that yet. I think it would be lovely for people in our LB to be aware of such projects and also request early access with their mails. Lock is creating something very unique that would serve as a better security for long term holders in future if the project goes smoothly so it’s something worth the awareness.

[safar1980]

MainIbem, I saw your translations in the Nigeria (Naija) locale, you can also do a translation of ANN Lock.com.

[ZAINmalik75]

I also clicked on a particular language icon (pid) thinking it would take me to a link of a translated topic about lock but it took me to the forum's homepage, which mean no one has done that yet. I think it would be lovely for people in our LB to be aware of such projects and also request early access with their mails. Lock is creating something very unique that would serve as a better security for long term holders in future if the project goes smoothly so it’s something worth the awareness.

You are right, translation in the boards can give them more exposure, and local community members can discuss the project more in their local language. Their project is great and can be of great importance in the coming years because right now we are in the building phase, like we are in the bear phase when no one is pushing, all are just bored, frustrated, and no one wants to buy, but when the real bull run starts, everyone becomes excited, starts managing money to buy, and they all buy high and in FOMO.

In a few years, when quantum computers will be ruling everywhere, AI will become a bubble by then, but that's another topic. The quantum computers threat will become imminent, and in that phase, everyone will be searching for a project which can fulfill their demand. That's where Lock will come out as a fine alternative, or it can become the first choice by then, who knows.

[uchegod-21]

You are right, translation in the boards can give them more exposure, and local community members can discuss the project more in their local language. Their project is great and can be of great importance in the coming years because right now we are in the building phase, like we are in the bear phase when no one is pushing, all are just bored, frustrated, and no one wants to buy, but when the real bull run starts, everyone becomes excited, starts managing money to buy, and they all buy high and in FOMO.

People become easily interested when you are building what is already known and popular. Even when you do not add any special differentiating feature from what's already known, it's still all good for everyone.
But the moment you start building something unique and never known, people become skeptical and almost not involving but when it becomes a success, everyone will troop in again.

You can invite friends to request early access.

In a few years, when quantum computers will be ruling everywhere, AI will become a bubble by then, but that's another topic. The quantum computers threat will become imminent, and in that phase, everyone will be searching for a project which can fulfill their demand. That's where Lock will come out as a fine alternative, or it can become the first choice by then, who knows.

AI will never bubble out, rather it will become a foundation upon which future technology will be built and evolve. As for the quantum attack, before then, many solutions will also be available just like what Lock has started.

[satscraper]

HOW THIS COMPARES WITH OFFLINE ELECTRUM

A Bitcoin-only setup using an offline Electrum signer and a separate online watch-only wallet is already a strong custody model.

Lock is not based on the premise that this setup is ineffective.

The difference is the surface over which Lock is trying to preserve the same general isolation principle.

Thanks for this follow-up on your older reply.

So basically, the difference is; Lock is "modular" using only the necessary features that it needs in each specific device, no more no less;
while Electrum has to use the full binary even in the air-gap machine where its other features aren't required.

Honestly,
It's not something that will make me switch my existing setup but its other features are worth checking out.

Agreed, and it is not something that will make me throw away my Passport Core and put the machine ^{even the thinnest and lightest one, like Acer Swift Blade 14 with Lock wallet there}  into suitcase instead. Much cry and little wool. "Hardware wallets are dead", my foot!

P.S. See Lock's setup as an experimental approach, no more than that.

[Agbe]

Zero internet is only good with cable connection transfer and not with WiFi and Bluetooth connection. Those are dangerous ways of connection. I will suggest cable connection and not the wireless connection. Though most of the bitcoin users in my country use software wallets and not hardware wallets.

And base on what is happening to hardware wallets, wireless transaction is good but the analog and the digital transactions should be embedded.

[MainIbem]

MainIbem, I saw your translations in the Nigeria (Naija) locale, you can also do a translation of ANN Lock.com.

Working on it mate, i think people in my lacal board need the awareness of lock.com, although some people would see it from those of us wearing their signature code and avatar but translating it would help them understand what it's all about and create more awareness to those that are yet to know about it. As one of the first of it's kind if not the first, more people should be aware of a project with the potential of giving them better wallet security in the future.