How big is the "CryptoYar" account farm?

[hugeblack]

What baffles me is if the signature campaign jobs are so lucrative for these farmers, why in the world are they too retarded to just follow the forums rules? You are allowed to have multiple accounts, JUST DON'T JOIN THE SAME CAMPAIGNS. Pretty damn easy to follow 1 easy rule isn't it? You can have 20 accounts in 20 campaigns and are fine.

Those accounts are usually managed by a group (relatives, friends, or a company), and at the end of the week the profits are shared. Therefore, you always find this connection between these accounts and an exchange of logins when one of them is unable to complete the weekly quota.
It is difficult for a single user to manage such a farm, or at least would be more careful than this mess.

[Rustam Meraj]

I'm posting on behalf of Publictalk792 and myself.

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

As far as CryptoYar is concerned, we don't know him personally. We only know that he's from the same city as us nothing more.

ThemePen is also my friend, but again, only through the Bitcointalk community. We exchanged phone numbers, but we have never met in person.

That's all. This is in no way an account farm, as it's being portrayed. Just because Publictalk792 and I became friends through the Bitcointalk Pakistan community and occasionally meet in person does not make us an account farm.

[LoyceV]

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

It's usually the cousin, friend or collegue
I've seen this so many times, and each time the account farm thinks it's a valid excuse.

[Samrean]

Just to clarify, please leave me out of this.
My only involvement has already been fully explained in that thread where I tagged.

You were lucky that time as you got neutral tag and after that you become merit source. You are farming a lot of accounts and there many members, full members getting ready in your local Pakistan board all funded merit by you, and others who already have merits to send and farm account without getting other knowing what shady business is going over there.

I'm posting on behalf of Publictalk792 and myself.

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

As far as CryptoYar is concerned, we don't know him personally. We only know that he's from the same city as us nothing more.

ThemePen is also my friend, but again, only through the Bitcointalk community. We exchanged phone numbers, but we have never met in person.

That's all. This is in no way an account farm, as it's being portrayed. Just because Publictalk792 and I became friends through the Bitcointalk Pakistan community and occasionally meet in person does not make us an account farm.

Yes, now you wiil say that you say that you went to your friends house to make a pizza and used his bowl 



I would suggest to analysis the merits given by these Pakistan local boards community members among themselves and how much they get from outside (excluding these pizza merits). (do we have such auotmated tool and everything will be clear). Few managers only see the merits while selecting participants and there you will see all of the Pakistan local board members in Rainbet or other such campaigns. Even i think these shit posters manage to get away with Sig bans, because they have too many merits (locally)  to defend themselves

[examplens]

So Rustam Meraj and Publictalk792 confirm 100% same person.

It seems that the statements are less and less consistent.
A month ago, CryptoYar quite confidently stated how far apart Publiktalk792 and Rustam Meraj are, only to now recognize them as 100% alt accounts. At the same time, he has the same IP address as someone who is hundreds of kilometers away in another city and district.

Publiktalk792 → Same city in Pakistan, but most probably around 50 km away
Rustam Meraj → Different city, different district, and most probably hundreds of km away

Now here, Rustam Meraj claims that he lives in the same area. That's what happens when you don't tell the truth, it's very difficult to keep the same story going

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

[lovesmayfamilis]

So Rustam Meraj and Publictalk792 confirm 100% same person.

It seems that the statements are less and less consistent.
A month ago, CryptoYar quite confidently stated how far apart Publiktalk792 and Rustam Meraj are, only to now recognize them as 100% alt accounts. At the same time, he has the same IP address as someone who is hundreds of kilometers away in another city and district.

Publiktalk792 → Same city in Pakistan, but most probably around 50 km away
Rustam Meraj → Different city, different district, and most probably hundreds of km away

Now here, Rustam Meraj claims that he lives in the same area. That's what happens when you don't tell the truth, it's very difficult to keep the same story going

Yes, we know each other because we live in the same area. But we got to know each other only through our Pakistan local community here on Bitcointalk, and then later we discovered that we live nearby.
Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years. As for the ATT contest, I made a completely separate pizza specifically for that contest, and I made it entirely by myself.

This is the case when alternative accounts come across because absolutely everything is mixed up in their heads. Who lives where, what kind of IP address they write with, and who has pizzas being prepared in their kitchen are all unknown. In general, it's amazing to have answers that say that someone cooked pizza  with a friend, or with a cat.

Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years.

You took a very long time to come up with an answer, but you laid out your pizzas on different days. There's a discrepancy here again. One posted a photo on June 10, and the other on June 6. Just on the same day as the winner.







Judging by your pizza-making activity, you do it quite often. Was this just one pizza for another forum? Or are we missing something?🤷‍♀️



Why put out all the pizzas at different times if you cooked them together?

I'm posting on behalf of Publictalk792 and myself.

Now you're being honest. How many voices do you hear?🩺🚑

[Ale88]

Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years.

And did you also share the same computer with the same internet connection for 11 months? Let me guess, now you're gonna tell us that you guys meet and write on the forum together while the pizzas are cooking

[LoyceV]

Let me guess, now you're gonna tell us that you guys meet and write on the forum together while the pizzas are cooking

Like this:

Add a kitchen!

If this "explanation" would have been true, all doubt could have been removed by simply mentioning this before joining.

[xLays]

Let me guess, now you're gonna tell us that you guys meet and write on the forum together while the pizzas are cooking

Like this:

Add a kitchen!

Granted.

[joker_josue]

Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years.

And did you also share the same computer with the same internet connection for 11 months? Let me guess, now you're gonna tell us that you guys meet and write on the forum together while the pizzas are cooking

Besides a bill farm, it also has a pizza farm.

Without creating labels or stereotypes, I see many immigrants from Pakistan opening pizza shops in my city.

I've never been there... do they accept BTC?  

[JollyGood]

Some of the comments being made by some of the accounts in question are making me laugh. The Rustam Meraj account is claiming they have been getting together for the past three years to make pizzas. Who in their right mind would actually believe this?

We all have seen it in the past when accounts are linked together, some or all of them start defending in any way imaginable because of what is at stake. I think he will regret making that statement because the notion that they have been meeting up to bake pizzas together (in order to enter in the Pizza Day competition) sounds ludicrous.

Yes, we made pizzas together And making it for three years.

You took a very long time to come up with an answer, but you laid out your pizzas on different days. There's a discrepancy here again. One posted a photo on June 10, and the other on June 6. Just on the same day as the winner.

[Ale88]

Some of the comments being made by some of the accounts in question are making me laugh. The Rustam Meraj account is claiming they have been getting together for the past three years to make pizzas. Who in their right mind would actually believe this?

I was thinking the same thing before: it's an insult to our intelligence.

[katanic97]

How long will it take until these account farms start some Bitcoin Talk justice movement?  It is about the third or fourth time I see magical accidental coincidences between multiple accounts and not ONCE have I seen them simply admit and give up!  I suppose it is better to have 5 red tags and lose it all while calling all of us crazy like we are all wasting our time every day looking to make random links hoping one of them may hit the right spot!

Why would he admit it? There is no motivation for him to do that. It is easier for him to simply pretend that none of these pieces of evidence are true.Someone who only applied to become a merit source didn't realize that there are smarter people than him here. And especially with the plate evidence, i don't think he saw that coming.

[PrivacyG]

Some of the comments being made by some of the accounts in question are making me laugh. The Rustam Meraj account is claiming they have been getting together for the past three years to make pizzas. Who in their right mind would actually believe this?

The more they explain, the more stupid it sounds.  So maybe let them continue the ridiculous explanations?

Last time I heard a stupid one, it was that multiple people were borrowing the same laptop to write from.  Now they are borrowing pizza ovens and probably using identical dishes they purchased in the past as 'Bitcoin Talk pizza making besties'?

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Why would he admit it? There is no motivation for him to do that. It is easier for him to simply pretend that none of these pieces of evidence are true.Someone who only applied to become a merit source didn't realize that there are smarter people than him here. And especially with the plate evidence, i don't think he saw that coming.

Completely destroying the reputation of all accounts instead of admitting from one of them that the rest are actually alternatives does sound a lot more stupid.  It would have been a 'I admit my fault' followed by a pretty long period of reputation recovery which is doable rather than this stupid drama.

[nutildah]

ThemePen is also my friend, but again, only through the Bitcointalk community. We exchanged phone numbers, but we have never met in person.

Yeah, he introduced you to the forum apparently:

And the others case is different Rustam is one of friends friend in other group on WhatsApp and I introduced him this forum too. He applied in this campaign but then it closed. And he said to me that when a campaign is opened plz let me inform. When this campaign opened I called him to reapply. But instead he sent me his password and requested me to reapply for him since he was away from the internet. And that's my mistake and I accidently posted from my own account.

Don't you need the internet to use WhatsApp?

You must trust him a lot to give him the password to your Bitcointalk account.

[julerz12]

Honestly, these excuses they've made would have been immediately refuted if the ATT admins had just presented some direct proof for the public to see and verify. Sadly, they won't. I guess it's due to privacy concerns. 

why in the world are they too retarded to just follow the forums rules?

Their need to enroll multiple accounts and possibly earn more per week trumps the need to follow the forum rules. 

Granted.

Aw. Such a tight-knit crypto-community that is. WTH. 

[Ale88]

ThemePen is also my friend, but again, only through the Bitcointalk community. We exchanged phone numbers, but we have never met in person.

Yeah, he introduced you to the forum apparently:

And the others case is different Rustam is one of friends friend in other group on WhatsApp and I introduced him this forum too. He applied in this campaign but then it closed. And he said to me that when a campaign is opened plz let me inform. When this campaign opened I called him to reapply. But instead he sent me his password and requested me to reapply for him since he was away from the internet. And that's my mistake and I accidently posted from my own account.

Don't you need the internet to use WhatsApp?

You must trust him a lot to give him the password to your Bitcointalk account.

The most logic explanation is that he wrote his password on a piece of paper given to his kids by the government, and then when they met to discuss about the pizza contest, he gave him the forum password, which was safely kept under a specific plate, let's say one with a pattern commonly used in Pakistani homes.
Does it make sense? 

[JollyGood]

Without creating labels or stereotypes, I see many immigrants from Pakistan opening pizza shops in my city.

What is the city name?

I was thinking the same thing before: it's an insult to our intelligence.

With hindsight, I am sure the puppeteer will eventually come to regret some of the comments they posted. As stated earlier, it is completely understandable that the accounts will put up a defence because they face the prospect of being removed from campaigns (if their managers remove them). After all, if they will not be paid why would they bother posting?

It is precisely for this reason that the stories and excuses they put forward as a defence become more unbelievable over time.

The more they explain, the more stupid it sounds.  So maybe let them continue the ridiculous explanations?

Last time I heard a stupid one, it was that multiple people were borrowing the same laptop to write from.  Now they are borrowing pizza ovens and probably using identical dishes they purchased in the past as 'Bitcoin Talk pizza making besties'?

The sad fact of the matter remains that the CryptoYar account was awarded $1500 in good faith as a result of entering (and winning a prize) in the Pizza Day competition but he violated the rules of entry. That money has not been returned to the event organisers.

[Free Market Capitalist]

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You were lucky that time as you got neutral tag and after that you become merit source.

Can anybody else confirm this? The thing is, if that were the case, we would have a person—or the same group of people, cheaters—who are already a merit source and were applying for a second one. No wonder shitposters can achieve high ranks.

Do you think theymos will be following this thread? It's one thing to want to encourage local boards, but he'll have to be careful about designating cheaters, account farmers, etc., as merit sources.

I hope nutildah's job may help put a stop to this nonsense.

[stompix]

Can anybody else confirm this?

What, that he is a merit source? Yup:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494627.msg65460044#msg65460044
Given that he sends more merit than he receives by a huge margin, he still is one.

The part about the accounts, I don't know everything about this is shady but I don't want to throw accusations without research and...I don;t feel like doing it!