5 accounts cheating casino bitcointalk promo

[xLays]

Another cheater. Just saw this update from SCORAS ANN thread.

SCORAS found XOOMBOX and mobile linked through the same device and IP.

According to them, XOOMBOX and mobile were linked through the same device and IP address, resulting in both accounts being permanently blocked for welcome bonus abuse.

They also said they didn't confiscate any deposited funds. The only loss on their side was the $20 welcome bonus that was claimed before their risk system detected the linked accounts.

Bitcointalk Username: XOOMBOX
SCORAS User ID: 257812993

Bitcointalk Username: mobile
SCORAS User ID: 603228186

Unfortunately, our risk system has identified these accounts as being linked through the same device and IP address, indicating multi-accounting and abuse of the welcome promotion.

As a result, both accounts have been permanently blocked and the promotional bonuses have been removed in accordance with our Terms & Conditions.

For transparency, no deposited funds have been confiscated and no legitimate player balances have been affected. The only loss incurred by SCORAS was a single $20 welcome bonus that was successfully claimed before our risk system detected the linked accounts.

We have a zero-tolerance policy towards bonus abuse to ensure promotions remain fair for genuine players.

Another one:

For full transparency, our Risk Team has completed a further investigation and identified additional Bitcointalk users operating multiple SCORAS accounts.

The following SCORAS User IDs have now been permanently blocked:

861851907
889018784
636638539

Our investigation found that these accounts were controlled by the same individual, who created and used three separate Bitcointalk accounts together with multiple SCORAS accounts in an attempt to claim the welcome promotion multiple times.

SCORAS has a zero-tolerance policy towards multi-accounting and bonus abuse. We will continue monitoring all claims to ensure the promotion remains fair for genuine Bitcointalk members.

If so, these accounts should be investigated by Bitcointalk DT members and negatively tagged as scammers:

Bitcointalk username: TokenTikas
Scoras user id: 636638539

Bitcointalk username: Disconnecting
SCORAS user ID: 861851907

deposit done usdt ($20.2)

Username: LeyMonte
Scoras ID: 889018784

[lovesmayfamilis]

The anti-fraud system seems to be working perfectly on this casino site, but these two accounts will certainly participate in other similar giveaways on the forum in the future if we ignore this now. Perhaps they didn't expect to be caught so foolishly.

I haven't checked their history, but most likely these accounts were bought or hacked.
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=mobile
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=986676







Identical postings and identical forum appearance times are very typical for these two accounts.

deposit done usdt ($20.2)

Username: LeyMonte
Scoras ID: 889018784

This one, however, seems to have a lot of old accounts, as it never gives up hope of appearing on the forum under the identities of different countries, but it always fails.🤷‍♀️

His other two accounts need to be checked further and tagged in the same way.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Disconnecting woke up one day with a different account  https://bpip.org/Profile?id=986676  https://bpip.org/Profile?p=centrum

If we talk about the fact that  LeyMonte is Filipino, then these two accounts also belong or belonged to Filipinos.

As of now dito sa lugar namin wala pa akong alam o kakilala na tumatanggap nang btc. Siguro kung meron masusurprise ako.

Naniniwala pa rin ako na kaya nating kumita nang maganda sa pinas. Sa pamamagitan nang pagnenegosyo na related sa food kasi lahat nang tao kumakain at nangangailanagan  nang pagkain.

[xLays]

His other two accounts need to be checked further and tagged in the same way.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Disconnecting woke up one day with a different account  https://bpip.org/Profile?id=986676

Yeah they look like two different people, but they obviously to have the same goal of abusing the promotion.

I'll wait for their explanation first before leaving any tags. If they can provide reasonable explanation then I'll consider it. lol Otherwise, I'll tag them accordingly.

[yahoo62278]

His other two accounts need to be checked further and tagged in the same way.

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Disconnecting woke up one day with a different account  https://bpip.org/Profile?id=986676

Yeah they look like two different people, but they obviously to have the same goal of abusing the promotion.

I'll wait for their explanation first before leaving any tags. If they can provide reasonable explanation then I'll consider it. lol Otherwise, I'll tag them accordingly.

3 of the 5 are already tagged. While I agree that tagging them doe help to stop them from participating in on forum activities such as sig campaigns, bounties, and other contests hosted on the forum I don't think it keeps them from trying to cheat a casino. The casino seems to have detection tools in place which helps cheaters be outed on the forum though.

Casinos might need to make a user link their profile from this forum and check it before providing them with any bonus and exclude red trusted accounts. I don't know if they are willing to do that as the business is super competitive and they want all the customers they can get.

[AakZaki]

I'll wait for their explanation first before leaving any tags. If they can provide reasonable explanation then I'll consider it. lol Otherwise, I'll tag them accordingly.

Usually the person who is proven guilty will not give any explanation. Unless they are in the right position, they will immediately deny any accusations.
Because innocent people usually have a calmer mind to refute any accusations.

Like the case here, the person concerned no longer cares about his reputation.

[yahoo62278]

I'll wait for their explanation first before leaving any tags. If they can provide reasonable explanation then I'll consider it. lol Otherwise, I'll tag them accordingly.

Usually the person who is proven guilty will not give any explanation. Unless they are in the right position, they will immediately deny any accusations.
Because innocent people usually have a calmer mind to refute any accusations.

Like the case here, the person concerned no longer cares about his reputation.

2 totally different cases don't ya think? 1 is being accused of the administrator of the forum who has all the proof in the world. Can see PM logs and IP logs and would not come forward without 100% solid proof, whereas other accusations are less solid proof from those of you who take the time to bust these guys who cheat.

Not taking anything away from what you guys do, just saying the evidence is more speculative that 100% solid. In the end we get to the same conclusion in most cases though.

[JeromeTash]

Usually the person who is proven guilty will not give any explanation. Unless they are in the right position, they will immediately deny any accusations.
Because innocent people usually have a calmer mind to refute any accusations.

Like the case here, the person concerned no longer cares about his reputation.

You are partly right, but sometimes they do put up a fight, though especially if their income stream is going to be massively affected. I think you have seen some of the cheats who have been busted before come up with stories of friends, brothers or relatives owning the other accounts, etc

[The Cryptovator]

Thanks for bringing up this matter on the forum, but it would be better if the casino created a reputation thread by themselves with the minimal evidence that could be shared publicly. It’s pretty clear they abuse the promo as per the casino statement. But based on their statement, I can’t tag the account, although 4 of the 5 accounts are already tagged for some other reason.

I think tagging them for cheating would be questionable, although I really want to punish them. For such a situation, I am not tagging them for cheating; ask the casino if they could raise concern from their end with minimal evidence. Then the community, including me, would consider what should be done.

[nutildah]

If we talk about the fact that  LeyMonte is Filipino, then these two accounts also belong or belonged to Filipinos.

As of now dito sa lugar namin wala pa akong alam o kakilala na tumatanggap nang btc. Siguro kung meron masusurprise ako.

Naniniwala pa rin ako na kaya nating kumita nang maganda sa pinas. Sa pamamagitan nang pagnenegosyo na related sa food kasi lahat nang tao kumakain at nangangailanagan  nang pagkain.

Belonged. They are fake Filipinos now. I remember LeyMonte because when he woke up he posted a proud picture of his security guard uniform along with a nice Google translated story about working proudly in the Philippines. The problem was the image was taken from a random website and cropped. Truly embarrassing.

I would be reluctant to issue tags based on IP evidence outside the forum, but if its a piece in a puzzle that is otherwise almost complete, then it would be hard to deny. Not sure if that's the case here as we have 3 overlapping local sections involved.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If we talk about the fact that  LeyMonte is Filipino, then these two accounts also belong or belonged to Filipinos.

As of now dito sa lugar namin wala pa akong alam o kakilala na tumatanggap nang btc. Siguro kung meron masusurprise ako.

Naniniwala pa rin ako na kaya nating kumita nang maganda sa pinas. Sa pamamagitan nang pagnenegosyo na related sa food kasi lahat nang tao kumakain at nangangailanagan  nang pagkain.

Belonged. They are fake Filipinos now. I remember LeyMonte because when he woke up he posted a proud picture of his security guard uniform along with a nice Google translated story about working proudly in the Philippines. The problem was the image was taken from a random website and cropped. Truly embarrassing.

I would be reluctant to issue tags based on IP evidence outside the forum, but if its a piece in a puzzle that is otherwise almost complete, then it would be hard to deny. Not sure if that's the case here as we have 3 overlapping local sections involved.

Yes, yes, I forgot about that. I remembered that I spoke of him as a Bengali. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506921.msg65962098#msg65962098

The accounts were purchased. The one you mentioned as the sold account woke up with these three at the same time.

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=986676
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Disconnecting
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=centrum

[jahead]

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Another one:

For full transparency, our Risk Team has completed a further investigation and identified additional Bitcointalk users operating multiple SCORAS accounts.

The following SCORAS User IDs have now been permanently blocked:

861851907
889018784
636638539

Our investigation found that these accounts were controlled by the same individual, who created and used three separate Bitcointalk accounts together with multiple SCORAS accounts in an attempt to claim the welcome promotion multiple times.

SCORAS has a zero-tolerance policy towards multi-accounting and bonus abuse. We will continue monitoring all claims to ensure the promotion remains fair for genuine Bitcointalk members.

If so, these accounts should be investigated by Bitcointalk DT members and negatively tagged as scammers:

Bitcointalk username: TokenTikas
Scoras user id: 636638539

Bitcointalk username: Disconnecting
SCORAS user ID: 861851907

deposit done usdt ($20.2)

Username: LeyMonte
Scoras ID: 889018784

I am wondering if this user was missed for a negative tag, bc he seems to be a farmed account as well or maybe even the farmer?
The account is still active in the forum like nothing happened and seems to hope that people forget about it.
Or did he already say something about it somewhere? Idk. Just asking for a friend...  

[JeromeTash]

I am wondering if this user was missed for a negative tag, bc he seems to be a farmed account as well or maybe even the farmer?
The account is still active in the forum like nothing happened and seems to hope that people forget about it.
Or did he already say something about it somewhere? Idk. Just asking for a friend...  

If you are talking about the username you highlighted in red, then I did try to ask for a response in the other thread, but the explanation in the reply was a bit hard to understand and I didn't watn to derail that thread. I think he needs to clearly clearly explain what happened. Here is what he said.

Yes, although at first I wasn't seeing the post because I was mentioned later through an edit, so maybe I didn't receive the notification. Later, the respected member (lovesm....) PM me and then I saw the matter, I myself also couldn't understand what had actually happened and at the same time I started my own investigation.

I saw that I had no idea about the people who were caught because of the (IP) issue and it was also confirmed that there was no similarity with them regarding the (IP) issue. Later, even after asking the project representative, I did not get anything like that. Then I also thought about whether there had been any problem regarding any transaction with someone from my local area and then it came to my mind that maybe someone was trying to put me in trouble, nothing more than that.

I'm completely sure that someone is trying to put me in trouble and trying to ruin my deputation. I saw that even on a post where I would never get any merit, someone gave merit there. And I had reported the person who gave that merit for merit abuse, the people whom I reported are trying to put me in trouble by giving merit from an account and another person tried to damage my reputation by saying nonsense. The person who is doing these things also has an account farming scandal on the forum.

Shared these things from the place of transparency and there is no point in doing something like this for such a small bonus. The platform is giving some bonus, but I also run different kinds of price prediction events with my own funding, maybe you have noticed that.

[jahead]

If you are talking about the username you highlighted in red, then I did try to ask for a response in the other thread, but the explanation in the reply was a bit hard to understand and I didn't watn to derail that thread. I think he needs to clearly clearly explain what happened. Here is what he said.

@TokenTikas definitely read this thread as well and decided to send me a PM with nonsense, then to speak open in the threads:  

Hello mate:

I have already contacted Scoras and also wanted to know about all the matters, but I did not find anything like that. Where no IP/other issue was found and where I did not talk unnecessarily. After Lovesmayfamily PM me, he was also informed and asked about it, I also talked about the matter.

Since reporting the Dr.Osh account, I have been facing different kinds of threats and now again it seems that they are trying to put me in danger.

@Tokentikas With the current accusations of being one of at least 3 farming accounts, you should explain the situation publicly and properly.
You shouldnt try to "fix things" behind closed doors to get away with it. What you are writing makes no sense at all.

AND the fact that you gave me a merit on an older post right before your PM to me doesnt make things better, it makes it even more suspicious.
Either you are trying to intimidate me (like "I have read your posts from your history") or you are trying to do the same thing as Dr. Osh, like you said...  

[lovesmayfamilis]

If you are talking about the username you highlighted in red, then I did try to ask for a response in the other thread, but the explanation in the reply was a bit hard to understand and I didn't watn to derail that thread. I think he needs to clearly clearly explain what happened. Here is what he said.

@TokenTikas definitely read this thread as well and decided to send me a PM with nonsense, then to speak open in the threads:  

Yes, just like you, I was at a loss as to what @TokenTikas meant by writing me an answer. By the way, I told him that I didn't understand at all what he was writing about, to which I never received an answer. I don't think it will be a big problem if I show this to the PM, since I don't see anything personal or confidential in this, except that the account that the Token is talking about may be an alternative to it. I checked several posts of these two accounts, and it seemed to me that they are very similar in their writing style.




Yes, just like then, like everyone present here, I invite @TokenTikas to this topic.

[TokenTikas]

Fully explained the issue being discussed here and the proper discussion I have been asked to have on the subject.

Here, I don't know anything about the issue that has been discussed but I tried to talk to the representative of (Scoras.io) casino to find out what actually happened, but couldn't find out anything proper. Later, I tried to investigate myself and understand what actually happened. From my point of view, it's absolutely clear that there is no connection with these.
Actually I don't know exactly whether there was a problem with the loan we gave to our local member @Cypra when the problem occurred. However, it has been clarified how the loans were given. For this reason, I was trying to find out the details by contacting the representative of (Scoras.io) and tried to find out the details because can't just randomly guess something when I don't know it properly.



After giving loans to local members several times, they immediately repaid the loans but I don't know anything about what they did after taking the loans. Although I couldn't immediately say anything about the matter due to my busy work, I found out when lovesmayfamily PM me and we talked.
I try to be active on the forum all the time, but a few days ago reported about the Dr.Osh scandal and from there they are trying to put me in danger in various ways. They gave multiple merits to the reported posts and later they are giving merit to the posts that do not deserve merit. They are trying to put me in danger by posting random posts at different times in different ways. I have a doubt that Cypra's account is because of Dr.Osh, who is trying to put me in danger in various ways. I have added an example below.

Recently, SpongeS posted a post about me connecting with a random account and then deleted it again.


https://bitlist.co/post/67018577


https://bitlist.co/post/67018546

Since nothing can be said without proper evidence, I was waiting for proper evidence before saying anything here and also want to know what actually happened regarding the issue raised about the problem of (IP). I cannot say anything until I get proper authentic evidence, that's all I have to say for now.

Otherwise, I was informing lovesmayfamily about the matter by PM but I didn't think lovesmayfamily would create a baseless topic. If he didn't understand anything then he could have politely told me that he didn't understand anything and posted it properly in the thread then I would have done that but I didn't expect it from a reputable member like him.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Otherwise, I was informing lovesmayfamily about the matter by PM but I didn't think lovesmayfamily would create a baseless topic. If he didn't understand anything then he could have politely told me that he didn't understand anything and posted it properly in the thread then I would have done that but I didn't expect it from a reputable member like him.

Please recommend a translator so I can understand all of this.🤔🤔🤔🤔

[nutildah]

I have a doubt that Cypra's account is because of Dr.Osh, who is trying to put me in danger in various ways. I have added an example below.

Can you please explain how you're not LeyMonte even though this casino says that you are? You participated in the same promo at the same time using the same IP address apparently, and we just want to know how you could possibly not also own the LeyMonte account. Is the casino detection system wrong? Anything about loans and so forth is irrelevant.

[JeromeTash]

Fully explained the issue being discussed here and the proper discussion I have been asked to have on the subject.

Here, I don't know anything about the issue that has been discussed but I tried to talk to the representative of (Scoras.io) casino to find out what actually happened, but couldn't find out anything proper. Later, I tried to investigate myself and understand what actually happened. From my point of view, it's absolutely clear that there is no connection with these.

So should we say the Scoras.io admin lied regarding your account getting linked to others via IP addresses?
We are not even accusing you of being linked to other accounts through merits or transaction IDs, where you keep saying someone is targeting you. Also, out of the so many accounts that participated in the Scoras promotion. I don't think the representative would just single you out.

Your explanation is not even clear, but I guess we will have to go with the Scoras representative's findings and publications.

[TokenTikas]

Can you please explain how you're not LeyMonte even though this casino says that you are? You participated in the same promo at the same time using the same IP address apparently, and we just want to know how you could possibly not also own the LeyMonte account. Is the casino detection system wrong? Anything about loans and so forth is irrelevant.

Why would I explain this baseless accusations. Since you guys are accusing me, prove it to me. I'm not even know those guys begin with.

Again, I have also clarified that there is no connection with (IP). I'm surprised how I have been mentioned here regarding the (IP) issue. Even after contacting the casino, nothing of the kind has been found out, there is nothing to say about these baseless issues.

Don't make blind assumption.

[nutildah]

Why would I explain this baseless accusations. Since you guys are accusing me, prove it to me. I'm not even know those guys begin with.

Again, I have also clarified that there is no connection with (IP). I'm surprised how I have been mentioned here regarding the (IP) issue. Even after contacting the casino, nothing of the kind has been found out, there is nothing to say about these baseless issues.

Don't make blind assumption.

I'm not accusing you or making an assumption, I just wanted to ask your opinion of how you think this could happen -- a casino publicly expels you for cheating. I'm guessing you think they made some kind of mistake.