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Today at 04:19:26 AM
Merited by JustBeKause (1)
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anyone else have their messages suddenly disappear? I had them earlier today and I went to go look for one and there is now nothing prior to July 21st

I know I did not sit here and delete hundreds of pages of messages.

Is this a forum issue? And can they be restored?

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Today at 04:45:11 AM
Merited by vapourminer (1)
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In case you haven't already, might as well make sure things look right here:

https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php


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Today at 04:57:55 AM
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anyone else have their messages suddenly disappear? I had them earlier today and I went to go look for one and there is now nothing prior to July 21st
I know I did not sit here and delete hundreds of pages of messages.
Is this a forum issue? And can they be restored?
Agree with @nutildah, check your IP history first too.

There has been some hacked activity without any changes to your information, password, and other. I one of the victim, and guess what? the hacker use my account for requested a loans. The loans application requests are not straight requests for a big amount loans, but using my habits loan history around 300$.

Luckily, shasan rejected the loans request cause the address are different not using my usual address. The loans request are being deleted, and I confirm those loans application are not from me. There has some several similiar case as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480420.msg63441808#msg63441808 hacked without changing any password and other activity.

My story hacked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480420.msg63444503#msg63444503

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Today at 05:10:40 AM
Merited by vapourminer (1)
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And can they be restored?
The admin might only be able to restore them as archive files (though I’m not entirely sure). In any case, your messages remain stored in the server database and are only completely lost if six months have passed since both parties (sender and recipient) deleted the PM. https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php

 
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Today at 05:11:50 AM
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If it was a hack, just would expect messages after a certain period of time deleted, which will be the ones the hacker sent to other users, and not them deleting hundreds of messages you had already sent, that doesn't benefit them much.

If there's unusual activity, that's probably the culprit. If not, you can try clearing your cache or any other action you can do on your end. If that doesn't work, then reach out to the admin to give your account a look to check what may have went wrong. The forum keeps logs of pms, restoring them should be an option.

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Today at 05:31:15 AM
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In case you haven't already, might as well make sure things look right here:

https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php



yea they look fine. some from when I travelled and logged in on mobile. but they are all in places where I was at.


And can they be restored?
The admin might only be able to restore them as archive files (though I’m not entirely sure). In any case, your messages remain stored in the server database and are only completely lost if six months have passed since both parties (sender and recipient) deleted the PM. https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php

they were there earlier today.

If it was a hack, just would expect messages after a certain period of time deleted, which will be the ones the hacker sent to other users, and not them deleting hundreds of messages you had already sent, that doesn't benefit them much.

If there's unusual activity, that's probably the culprit. If not, you can try clearing your cache or any other action you can do on your end. If that doesn't work, then reach out to the admin to give your account a look to check what may have went wrong. The forum keeps logs of pms, restoring them should be an option.

- Jay -

agreed - that is why it is weird.

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Today at 05:35:39 AM
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anyone else have their messages suddenly disappear? I had them earlier today and I went to go look for one and there is now nothing prior to July 21st

I know I did not sit here and delete hundreds of pages of messages.

Is this a forum issue? And can they be restored?

If I had a satoshi for every time someone's PM's MaGIcALlY disappeared that were involved with the LONG dispute between vod and ognasty.......i would have 2 satoshis.

Not lots of satoshi, but its ODD that its happened TWICE now  Smiley

And DONT be the schizo that tells me mopar wasnt involved. I've read ALL public posted material on the matter on this forum. I PROMISE im more schizo than you.

Here, lets see:

Hey MOPAR? sweetie? Did you happen to have any PM that make Mr NASTY look bad if they ever surface? Mr millionaire is getting third party help I think...  Cheesy
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Today at 05:40:57 AM
Merited by JustBeKause (1)
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Vod also reported some missing PMs

Theymos - where are my PMs?

Maybe related?

However, theymos wasn't of much help:

Overwhelmingly the most likely is that you just deleted them and forgot. Roll Eyes

The next most likely is that your account was hacked by someone who wanted to delete them. I could give you your geolocation logs going back 6 years if you wanted to look into that.

There's less than a 1% probability of some forum issue. Nobody else is reporting missing PMs, and this is not an area that is touched by many people/systems.

PMs are permanently deleted from the database (and from all backups after ~6 months) when the sender and all recipients delete them. Note that the "save a copy in my outbox" option is off by default, which makes it more likely that senders "delete" their outgoing PMs. If the sender or one recipient didn't delete them, then they'll still be in the database, and I could still undelete them on request.

 
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Today at 05:42:44 AM
Merited by JustBeKause (1)
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Hey MOPAR? sweetie? Did you happen to have any PM that make Mr NASTY look bad if they ever surface? Mr millionaire is getting third party help I think...  Cheesy

I have all the pm's from him - from him calling me a bitch to retarded to a bunch of other names.

what I am missing is all messages I sent prior to July 21st of this year.

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Today at 10:35:52 AM
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I checked the logs, and you twice ran the prune messages function, which deletes all PMs older than x days:
REDACTED - - [05/Aug/2026:00:01:59 +0000] "POST /index.php?action=pm;sa=prune HTTP/1.1" 499 0 "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=prune" "REDACTED" "REDACTED"
REDACTED - - [05/Aug/2026:00:02:04 +0000] "POST /index.php?action=pm;sa=prune HTTP/1.1" 499 0 "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=prune" "REDACTED" "REDACTED"


The requests returned the 499 status code, which means that you pressed the "stop" button in your browser. This caused the pruning of your PMs to be interrupted partway through. When your PMs are being pruned, your outbox PMs are deleted first, followed by your inbox PMs. Therefore, I would expect you to also be missing some inbox PMs.

Because this happened recently, and PMs are only ever deleted from the database in a cron job once per week, all of the PMs can be restored.

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Today at 12:44:59 PM
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I checked the logs, and you twice ran the prune messages function, which deletes all PMs older than x days:
I learn a new thing today from you, it's my first time I know about prune messages.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=prune

It's not like a hidden page as click on the link, I can see it when I click on "My messages" tab but honestly in years I only click on Inbox/ Outbox and did not pay attention on three choices in Preferences.

I always click on the square box and wipe out my Inbox and Outbox, while I never use Prune Messages.

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