BIP-110 Split

[nutildah]

has anyone else seen this? Luke is off his rocker.

claiming that the BIP110 HF coming in September switching the algorithm to Blake2b is actual "real" Bitcoin

man is seriously delusional

I'm just curious: what did you say to make him block you?

[MoparMiningLLC]

I'm just curious: what did you say to make him block you?

I think something along the lines of telling him he was off his fucking rocker with his re-writing of history.

[Wind_FURY]

Although I don't support Luke Dash Jr.'s actions behind BIP-110, I don't have ANY sympathy for those people who are currently supporting him, and behaving like they're morally above everyone in the Bitcoin community.

If they lose their Bitcoin to a nefarious entity, then that's will be their HARD LESSON to learn from.

Agreed, I have said it many times. I really don't care if these people loose all their BTC.
Heck, I hope they loose everything.

If you don't want to learn how thins work, and follow something that everyone is telling you is wrong except for a few people then as the saying goes. "Sucks to be you"

"Sucks to be you" indeed, but I would never hope for any person to lose all of their Bitcoin.

THAT, in itself, is also sort of nefarious, no?

Now, I know it's not the reason, but we can torment them saying "Look, now that it's obvious that you are forking off and leaving the price of BTC has gone back up over 20%, that is how wrong you are"  I know that is not the reason why the price is spiked, but it follows their insane lack of logic.

-Dave

If I ask you, would you say that Luke Dash Jr. = Craig Wright after seeing the situation behind FilterBoiCoin?

[stompix]

have seen on Twitter - there is yet another fork - this one forked off from BIP110 - called Bitcoin Purity
https://mempool.bitcoinpurity.org/
so this is what now? 3 forks?
BIP110 SF with upcoming HF, Bitcoin Purity and the upcoming HF eCash (not to be confused with existing eCash)?

It's going to be way more
The Bitcoin Purity guy(s) just stole the start with their fork, as far as I can see they changed the difficulty and mined a few blocks before stopping, if I read that difficulty right it's about 1/10000 of what it should be, around 1 block per hour, so that would mean roughly 10 PH/s
Anyhow, it stalled 23 hours ago, probably money ran out even at these rates.

I read it was slated for oct 31st for the eCash HF - but cant find where I read it at now lol twitter shit gets lost so easily.

https://x.com/Truthcoin/status/2090972504760226042
My head just hurts from trying to understand what this is about.

[DaveF]

"Sucks to be you" indeed, but I would never hope for any person to lose all of their Bitcoin.

THAT, in itself, is also sort of nefarious, no?

Nope, they have wasted the time of so many people because of their BS. Other users have to be warned, they were spreading their propaganda all over the place.
They were making up things about BTC and lying about what people were doing.

So, to all the people still following and promoting 110 at this point. Nope, sucks to be them when they loose it all. But, on a happy note if they loose it all then they can't spread their lies to other people.

If I ask you, would you say that Luke Dash Jr. = Craig Wright after seeing the situation behind FilterBoiCoin?

I would say luke is worse the CW. CW never had any credibility and was in it for the scam from the start. luke, took his position and then abused it for his own gain.

-Dave

[PrivacyG]

have seen on Twitter - there is yet another fork - this one forked off from BIP110 - called Bitcoin Purity

https://mempool.bitcoinpurity.org/

so this is what now? 3 forks?

BIP110 SF with upcoming HF, Bitcoin Purity and the upcoming HF eCash (not to be confused with existing eCash)?

Why do we even care about these any more?  At this point I could come up with DickButt Bitcoin and take part in this too.  This is like 2010s all over when everyone was curious to try creating a Bitcoin replica, but what is different now is that everyone seems to have some kind of mental issue where they copy it and they really force them selves to believe it is the real thing!

[NotFuzzyWarm]

it also doesnt help that eCash (the new one) isoing to use the same name as the existing failed fork already called eCash - this guy was demanding on twitter that the existing one should give the new one their ticker and domain and blah blah so on and so on

I'd hope the altcoins boards here would have a few threads about it. 
But back to 110, any further scuttle butt about it? Been mighty quiet from the pro-110 side...

[nc50lc]

But back to 110, any further scuttle butt about it? Been mighty quiet from the pro-110 side...

They've announced their own forum to step away from bitcointalk a few months ago but it's relatively quiet there as well.
Ironically, the latest few posts are nothing but spam from off-topic ad bots.

But their Discord server is very active, if you can tolerate some of the members posts (or read them for the lols), you can consider joining to get the latest news.
I wont post a link though.

[Wind_FURY]

"Sucks to be you" indeed, but I would never hope for any person to lose all of their Bitcoin.

THAT, in itself, is also sort of nefarious, no?

Nope, they have wasted the time of so many people because of their BS. Other users have to be warned, they were spreading their propaganda all over the place.
They were making up things about BTC and lying about what people were doing.

So, to all the people still following and promoting 110 at this point. Nope, sucks to be them when they loose it all. But, on a happy note if they loose it all then they can't spread their lies to other people.

I would give more sympathy to the stupid, and misinformed who were merely influenced and manipulated by people who were supposed to look after them. I would still laugh at them and tell them "I told you so", BUT to hope that something bad happens to another person is definitely not good.

If I ask you, would you say that Luke Dash Jr. = Craig Wright after seeing the situation behind FilterBoiCoin?

I would say luke is worse the CW. CW never had any credibility and was in it for the scam from the start. luke, took his position and then abused it for his own gain.

-Dave

Plus he's a "devout Catholic". Laughable.

[ABCbits]

I read it was slated for oct 31st for the eCash HF - but cant find where I read it at now lol twitter shit gets lost so easily.

https://x.com/Truthcoin/status/2090972504760226042
My head just hurts from trying to understand what this is about.

Did he copy chatbot output without even check the format? Anyway, any reader who's not familiar with this eCash fork should start by reading https://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/ecash-fork/ instead. IMO the drivechain addition is interesting, but re-distribute half of eCash coin that assumed to be mined by Satoshi to other people is controversial choice.

But their Discord server is very active, if you can tolerate some of the members posts (or read them for the lols), you can consider joining to get the latest news.
I wont post a link though.

I won't ask for discord link, but how is it compared with discussion on GitHub (such as https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin)?

[DaveF]

I read it was slated for oct 31st for the eCash HF - but cant find where I read it at now lol twitter shit gets lost so easily.

https://x.com/Truthcoin/status/2090972504760226042
My head just hurts from trying to understand what this is about.

Did he copy chatbot output without even check the format? Anyway, any reader who's not familiar with this eCash fork should start by reading https://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/ecash-fork/ instead. IMO the drivechain addition is interesting, but re-distribute half of eCash coin that assumed to be mined by Satoshi to other people is controversial choice.

But their Discord server is very active, if you can tolerate some of the members posts (or read them for the lols), you can consider joining to get the latest news.
I wont post a link though.

I won't ask for discord link, but how is it compared with discussion on GitHub (such as https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin)?

Looking at the eCash thing it's 1000x better then 110. Or as of now at least gives the appearance of it.
Plans, testing, strategy, replay protection. We can disagree with it, but it's being done in a way that lets them go off and do their own thing without any of the crap that 110 is doing.

And, they don't even claim they are BTC. Why? Probably because they are mature adults with a team that knows how things work.

Looked at the knots Discord server. It's about a dumb as you would expect. More of less an echo chamber of a bunch of people telling each other that they are #1 and are going to take over BTC and the 99% of the people who are on the old chain are going to be wrong. You can't help these people.

I would give more sympathy to the stupid, and misinformed who were merely influenced and manipulated by people who were supposed to look after them. I would still laugh at them and tell them "I told you so", BUT to hope that something bad happens to another person is definitely not good.

2 different groups.
If you were as you say "stupid, and misinformed" then yes I do have some sympathy.
There are very very very very few of them from what I can see.

Most are like the ones we see here. PepeLapiu, Greg Tonoski, and a couple of others. Just spewing out their crap. Full on cult members.


-Dave

[Wind_FURY]

I would give more sympathy to the stupid, and misinformed who were merely influenced and manipulated by people who were supposed to look after them. I would still laugh at them and tell them "I told you so", BUT to hope that something bad happens to another person is definitely not good.

2 different groups.
If you were as you say "stupid, and misinformed" then yes I do have some sympathy.
There are very very very very few of them from what I can see.

Most are like the ones we see here. PepeLapiu, Greg Tonoski, and a couple of others. Just spewing out their crap. Full on cult members.


-Dave

They're probably sock-puppets, no? It's easy to create an account, pay for a copper membership, then there's probably a merit-giving service somewhere, or a farm for hire for merits?

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But on that subject, there are also the "smarter" Bitcoiners who are supposed to know how Bitcoin works like Hodlonaut, but supports FilterBoiCoin.

[DaveF]

I would give more sympathy to the stupid, and misinformed who were merely influenced and manipulated by people who were supposed to look after them. I would still laugh at them and tell them "I told you so", BUT to hope that something bad happens to another person is definitely not good.

2 different groups.
If you were as you say "stupid, and misinformed" then yes I do have some sympathy.
There are very very very very few of them from what I can see.

Most are like the ones we see here. PepeLapiu, Greg Tonoski, and a couple of others. Just spewing out their crap. Full on cult members.


-Dave

They're probably sock-puppets, no? It's easy to create an account, pay for a copper membership, then there's probably a merit-giving service somewhere, or a farm for hire for merits?

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But on that subject, there are also the "smarter" Bitcoiners who are supposed to know how Bitcoin works like Hodlonaut, but supports FilterBoiCoin.

At least those two have been around the forum for a while.
No proof, but I think they both thought that BTC was the magical internet money and they could just sit there and do nothing and retire rich.

And we might have said his name 3 times and he appeared GT just made a post about the blake2b fork in the Bitcoin Discussion part of the forum saying that BTC suffered a “98% attack” by the miners that did not support their fork.

Should probably use the report to moderator link to report an alt-coin thread in the bitcoin section.

-Dave

[nc50lc]

I won't ask for discord link, but how is it compared with discussion on GitHub (such as https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin)?

I haven't read all of the posts but their Devs are active in the development channels where it's much more active than the discussion in their GitHub's repo.

In terms of quantity, most of the channels are very active;
I'd say, about 100~300+ posts per day, but that's Discord so it's more of a chat room type of replies.
The technical discussions are mostly contained in one or two channels.

[Wind_FURY]

I would give more sympathy to the stupid, and misinformed who were merely influenced and manipulated by people who were supposed to look after them. I would still laugh at them and tell them "I told you so", BUT to hope that something bad happens to another person is definitely not good.

2 different groups.
If you were as you say "stupid, and misinformed" then yes I do have some sympathy.
There are very very very very few of them from what I can see.

Most are like the ones we see here. PepeLapiu, Greg Tonoski, and a couple of others. Just spewing out their crap. Full on cult members.


-Dave

They're probably sock-puppets, no? It's easy to create an account, pay for a copper membership, then there's probably a merit-giving service somewhere, or a farm for hire for merits?

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But on that subject, there are also the "smarter" Bitcoiners who are supposed to know how Bitcoin works like Hodlonaut, but supports FilterBoiCoin.

At least those two have been around the forum for a while.
No proof, but I think they both thought that BTC was the magical internet money and they could just sit there and do nothing and retire rich.

They still can. - IF they're HODLing the real and actual Bitcoin, with the network that allows the transactions they don't want, that's going to surge to a seven digit price valuation per coin.

And we might have said his name 3 times and he appeared GT just made a post about the blake2b fork in the Bitcoin Discussion part of the forum saying that BTC suffered a “98% attack” by the miners that did not support their fork.

Should probably use the report to moderator link to report an alt-coin thread in the bitcoin section.

-Dave