Passing KYC verification upfront would have solved this

[EarnOnVictor]

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

This is not new, as it has been one of the ignoble things casinos do, and this is not limited to bad casinos, or at least those that people know/perceived as bad, but also to the ones that pays or known to be okay. They might be fair to some customers and be unfair to others so that people will not generally label them bad. Now, if they could do it to those who had full verification in place, how much more if you didn't verify your account? No one should ever deposit in a casino account that has not been fully verified. That is my first policy, by going against that, you might unnecessarily exposed your account to them when they weren't noticing you.

[lovesmayfamilis]

This seems like a basic question, the answer to which any novice player can give. Where will people leave their preferences? Where there is less surveillance. If a casino doesn't require verification at first, then, according to human psychology, people should trust the casino more.

In reality, however, the casino has an interest in attracting customers. They need people the more, the better. After all, a jackpot isn't won every day. But every day people lose huge sums.
Isn't that so?

The casino doesn't care who leaves money with them or what their past is, and this "tricks" of completing KYC after winning opens up all sorts of opportunities for them to refuse to pay out the prize at any suspicious or unfavorable moment.

[AmaGold70]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Some casino platforms are really taking undue advantage of gamblers who are unable to complete their kyc verification system. In many gambling platforms that I know, the make kyc very compulsory when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money, and even though some platform say they are non kyc, they only allow small withdrawal of fund without proper verification but but when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money they actually requires kyc verification system. I feel kyc verification is very much important because without kyc, your gambling account is not protected, kyc makes your gambling account difficult for an unauthorized person to have access, so is something that is necessary for every gambler for safety reason.

[Tungbulu]

If a casino accepts your bet and then suddenly says you exceeded some hidden limit so they will not pay the full amount, I would already consider that a serious red flag. If that happened to me, I would feel like I was being scammed.

Obviously, that’ll be merely an attempt to avoid paying your full Wins, except of course it was you the gambler who had failed to do your own due diligence and readings about the casino and missed to find out that they are actually the terms of service in that particular casino.

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t even attempt betting so much in a casino that barely trust, yes I have new casinos that I bet on from time to time, but that doesn’t mean I make my bets there, especially when it’s a huge bet because I’ve not yet trusted them that much.

[Floxynice]

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

This is not new, as it has been one of the ignoble things casinos do, and this is not limited to bad casinos, or at least those that people know/perceived as bad, but also to the ones that pays or known to be okay. They might be fair to some customers and be unfair to others so that people will not generally label them bad. Now, if they could do it to those who had full verification in place, how much more if you didn't verify your account? No one should ever deposit in a casino account that has not been fully verified. That is my first policy, by going against that, you might unnecessarily exposed your account to them when they weren't noticing you.

Casinos that are mostly guilty of these are the casinos that claim that you do not need to undergo KYC requirements, but end up requiring for KYC verification when you win a very high amount of money. That is the highest level of deceit done by such casinos. Whether the casino is a KYC casino or a no-KYC casino, gamblers should make sure that they read the casino terms thoroughly to understand what the casino truly meant by no KYC. They might be giving you free access to the casino platform during registration, but may bring up the issue of KYC when the need for it arises. I will prefer a casino that is honest about KYC, than a casino that lies about KYC just to attract people to use the casino.

[Orpichukwu]

We always come back to the initial point, does it make sense to ask for KYC where I am giving you the money? In the end I'm the one who pays to have fun, I give you my money.
Like if you see sites like OF and in addition to paying you have to provide your documents, it just doesn't make sense.

It does not make sense if you are judging it that way, but you also need to look at it from the other side. They are service providers which are licensed by the appropriate authorities. If there is anything suspicious about the source of funds used to fund your account, the casino will be contacted first by the government. It's through there that they can point direction to who the player is.

Another thing again is they are trying to protect their business to make sure who they are about to pay is not someone found rigging their system in any way. They have every right to ask for KYC, but it should be fair and not used as an excuse not to pay winnings.

[Versatile_choice]

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Although some of these things are actually included in the casino’s terms and conditions, but most gamblers don’t usually have the time to read through those lengthy rules and terms, which is why they often miss it and only get to realize it later on in the most unprecedented situations.

That's right, not all gamblers that make out time to read through the terms and conditions of a casino. Some folks venture into casinos without even going through the terms and conditions of the casino and it's very risky, but in other hand I won't blame them because some happens as a result of ignorant. there are gamblers who doesn't know how to read and write that is why I would suggest that all casinos should make everything visible even though gamblers want to do something due to ignorant they should give them warning in a red sign I'm sure they may have the ability to know what that means.

[Pandu Geddon]

Some casino platforms are really taking undue advantage of gamblers who are unable to complete their kyc verification system. In many gambling platforms that I know, the make kyc very compulsory when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money, and even though some platform say they are non kyc, they only allow small withdrawal of fund without proper verification but but when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money they actually requires kyc verification system. I feel kyc verification is very much important because without kyc, your gambling account is not protected, kyc makes your gambling account difficult for an unauthorized person to have access, so is something that is necessary for every gambler for safety reason.

Whether for security reasons or just the government's effort to obtain data from people who gamble and can get taxes from gamblers. 
Casinos also have to comply with government regulations, especially for established casinos; they can update their terms and conditions regarding customer KYC to protect the business. 
Stake, in the beginning, could also be accessed without KYC and allowed deposits and withdrawals freely. But eventually, they implemented KYC for all customers. They even gave bonuses to customers who passed KYC for a certain period of time.

[IjawMan]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

We can not deny about this things not happening and it what makes it important that every gambler should make it a character to use reputation earned casinos that have over the years proven to be in the capacity to pay any amount that may be won by any player.

Much of what has taken a lot of gamblers into this predicament of finding them self with casinos that want to defraud and deny them of their won money is cause they were after mouth-droping  bonus and rewards and did not go for reputation and standards.

[Queen uloma]

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

This is not new, as it has been one of the ignoble things casinos do, and this is not limited to bad casinos, or at least those that people know/perceived as bad, but also to the ones that pays or known to be okay. They might be fair to some customers and be unfair to others so that people will not generally label them bad. Now, if they could do it to those who had full verification in place, how much more if you didn't verify your account? No one should ever deposit in a casino account that has not been fully verified. That is my first policy, by going against that, you might unnecessarily exposed your account to them when they weren't noticing you.

You’re very correct, casino can treat customers differently even the ones that people are seeing as legit. If they can create issues for people who have fully verify their account, just imagine what will happen when the account was never verified.

 So it’s a  good policy to complete KYC and verify the account before depositing big money. It can help reduce unnecessary problems in the future.

[Localhostspeed]

Not the same with Stake and few others, you have to pass KYC from the beginning before you make deposits, something about this just make things feel right, you will feel at ease no fear of ID denial later on.

But there is a saying that goes like this, ask and you shall be given, if you are using any online casino and they don't have KYC verification right in your face you aren't wrong asking them.

There is a reason why I don't always believe gamblers who come out and say that a casino denied their KYC information, sometimes those IDs aren't even genuine, because no online casinos have ever denied my ID before, maybe that's why I see things this way.

Stake company is already too big, they will have casino regulations and anti money gambling government trailing their tails, they are not the kind of company that is going to accept users without kyc but if you look back to the casino, they also one time accept crypt deposit and registration without kyc. Now that they have made names for their brand, known worldwide, they are going to careful with how they make people come and use their casino.

For peace of mind, whether the casino ask for kyc or not, do the verification before you make the deposit, don't wait until they asked you to do the verification. Most of the people that are victim od post verification after winning games don't end well. Although, there are people that after winning huge amount of money they are allow to make withdrawals but I think prevention is better.

[Johnlomape]

Let's be honest.

Casinos are getting away with people not been able to pass their KYC information after they won some money.
It's like some of them are intentionally using this against gamblers.

You won't know how friendly your favourite online casino is until you won some good amount of money.
Someone I knew had the same experience recently and it got me wondering why..

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?
It looks like a perfect excuse for them to restrict you from withdrawal.

Casinos can use their complicated TOS to steal money from users and that is why it can be very hard for gamblers to win casino when it comes to issues that is related to their terms and conditions. Not passing KYC verification can help the casino to claim a player money and the casino can come up with different excuses that the players gambling activity is suspicious.
The best way to avoid this is to use good casinos that will not use their advantage to freeze their players account due to unreasonable excuses.

[alastantiger]

Some casino platforms are really taking undue advantage of gamblers who are unable to complete their kyc verification system. In many gambling platforms that I know, the make kyc very compulsory when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money, and even though some platform say they are non kyc, they only allow small withdrawal of fund without proper verification but but when it comes to withdrawing large amount of money they actually requires kyc verification system.

Kyc helps protect your account from hackers withdrawing large amounts of money from the casinos account because if they wanted to withdraw large amounts from your account then it will need verification and that will save you from being scammed, the scanners will need verification and they would not be able to provide the information you already put when you were opening the account and that can safe you because you will be notified of changes happening to your account but if they do not need KYC to withdraw large sum of money then the hackers can take all your money without you knowing. And  if they decide to withdraw small amounts, you can catch them on time before they will be able to clear your account.

[retreat]

Why can't online casinos allows their customers to pass KYC verification before they start gambling?

It should actually be possible for you to complete your KYC process right after registration. From what I know, casinos never prevent people from completing their KYC early before they ask for it. It's just that most people use the flexibility given by the casino to skip the process until they actually need to make a withdrawal. And when they fail to complete the KYC process, they often blame the casino for asking them to go through KYC, even though they had the option to do it earlier.

[lombok]

Not the same with Stake and few others, you have to pass KYC from the beginning before you make deposits, something about this just make things feel right, you will feel at ease no fear of ID denial later on.

But there is a saying that goes like this, ask and you shall be given, if you are using any online casino and they don't have KYC verification right in your face you aren't wrong asking them.

There is a reason why I don't always believe gamblers who come out and say that a casino denied their KYC information, sometimes those IDs aren't even genuine, because no online casinos have ever denied my ID before, maybe that's why I see things this way.

Stake company is already too big, they will have casino regulations and anti money gambling government trailing their tails, they are not the kind of company that is going to accept users without kyc but if you look back to the casino, they also one time accept crypt deposit and registration without kyc. Now that they have made names for their brand, known worldwide, they are going to careful with how they make people come and use their casino.

For peace of mind, whether the casino ask for kyc or not, do the verification before you make the deposit, don't wait until they asked you to do the verification. Most of the people that are victim od post verification after winning games don't end well. Although, there are people that after winning huge amount of money they are allow to make withdrawals but I think prevention is better.

It is important that identification document validation processes, a preventive measure against massive balance theft, is involved. On account of lack of authentic identification, cybercriminals cannot transfer money and hence suspicious payments are automatically blocked at the payment gateway.

This check time gives much needed control space to enable the genuinely legitimate customers to swiftly identify any suspicious activity in their accounts. It is possible to started asset recovery even before a series of thefts manage to empty the whole amount of cash in the platform.

[Miles2006]

Always read the casino terms of service first, I know many casino will not include this in the rule and later along the line KYC is being requested otherwise withdrawal is restricted. This is so real and it has become a popular thing for most casino either as a set back to delay withdrawal process, casinos having the intention of requesting for KYC should do that at the beginning of every registration process because 50% of gamblers don’t like disclosing personal information either as a result of past experience. One of the reason casino want KYC before a huge withdrawal is because they also want to protect their site which is totally understandable but, requesting at the start is more transparent letting gamblers know where they stand.

[Joeboy]

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KYC is like a way of the casino to know their customers and so the process is very important majorly as a way of preventing the operations of fraudulent users..It could as well be very instrumental to the casino as a way of  dealing with issues like stolen identity as well as other cases of abuse.The truth is that majority of reputable casino actually allows KYC to be done after getting your account registered but you as the users may just not be knowledgeable about that because the casino didn't make the process clear from the beginning or just because you didn't familiarize yourself with the casino's terms and conditions before playing...And honestly speaking, I don't really think it is even logical for a reputable casino to stoop themselves so low to refuse paying it's users who won legitimately and completed all necessary verification processes.. Infact if casino start holding withdrawals unnecessary, it will obviously loose all of its existing customers to its rival considering how very competitive the gambling industry is..

[Muba20]

Always read the casino terms of service first, I know many casino will not include this in the rule and later along the line KYC is being requested otherwise withdrawal is restricted. This is so real and it has become a popular thing for most casino either as a set back to delay withdrawal process, casinos having the intention of requesting for KYC should do that at the beginning of every registration process because 50% of gamblers don’t like disclosing personal information either as a result of past experience. One of the reason casino want KYC before a huge withdrawal is because they also want to protect their site which is totally understandable but, requesting at the start is more transparent letting gamblers know where they stand.

Initially, casinos usually don't want to be too strict with their customers on their site, but when a gambler tries to withdraw a large sum of money, they often try use technique. At that point, the casino asks the user to complete the KYC process. I see this as a strategic move. Casinos that try to provide good service try to inform ordinary users about this in advance. In some cases, they give specific time frames and if the conditions are not met within the specified time, gambling on those accounts is temporarily restricted. It is unreasonable for a casino to let gamblers continue playing without prior notice of these requirements and then mention the rules later. Although gamblers should be familiar with the policies from the beginning, most ignore them.

[Alphakilo]

Always read the casino terms of service first, I know many casino will not include this in the rule and later along the line KYC is being requested otherwise withdrawal is restricted. This is so real and it has become a popular thing for most casino either as a set back to delay withdrawal process, casinos having the intention of requesting for KYC should do that at the beginning of every registration process because 50% of gamblers don’t like disclosing personal information either as a result of past experience. One of the reason casino want KYC before a huge withdrawal is because they also want to protect their site which is totally understandable but, requesting at the start is more transparent letting gamblers know where they stand.

Although it's a marketing gimmick by these casinos to get more traffic and more customers, it's a wrong practice to fool customers into believing they can evade kyc requirements having registered on a new platform.
I can also say how tiring it could be to read long text of bogus jargons that may be mind boggling to many as TOS, that's why gamblers prefer the trial and error method that leads often to this kind of experience.

I advice to always use small amounts to fund a new casino platform account and use small amounts to bet also so as to avoid losing much funds Incase this kind of issues further arise when joining a new platform.

[Cantsay]

That's right, not all gamblers that make out time to read through the terms and conditions of a casino. Some folks venture into casinos without even going through the terms and conditions of the casino and it's very risky, but in other hand I won't blame them because some happens as a result of ignorant. there are gamblers who doesn't know how to read and write that is why I would suggest that all casinos should make everything visible even though gamblers want to do something due to ignorant they should give them warning in a red sign I'm sure they may have the ability to know what that means.

The reality is that no casino is going to make it visible for the gambler to see, if the gambler is not willing to go and read it themselves then the casino would be happy, and if a gambler that doesn't know how to read like you said should come to their site, then they would be happier because they have someone on their chopping board whom they can use as they wish to use them.

Casinos are looking for ways to make more money, and if any suggestion is going to lead to them not making it or rather increasing the awareness of gamblers, then you can kiss that suggestion goodbye, they won't even consider it twice.