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Today at 09:30:59 AM
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Just to have a look, this is another guy they are "defending" - pay attention there is forum staff involved on harsh defense including distrust ! Grin

I am not forum staff. I'm just a guy hired to do a job who doesn't like seeing your red trust on Shishir99. Even if I was staff, it wouldn't make a difference. I'd still disagree with your use of the trust system, and it would still be wrong to not do anything about it.


I don't understand what's the big deal about red trust ratings.

If most DT members don't agree with the trust rating, it doesn't affect anything anyway. I mean what difference does it make if 9 out of 10 campaign managers don't see a problem with hiring Shishir99 in their campaigns? That rating effectively becomes a note from some guy. Yes that guy is a DT member too and it is worth reading but since many people (probably most) don't agree with it, it is practically ineffective and we can see that in the recent change of trust lists.

It is the heavy bombarding of red trust ratings (and flags with heavy support) on a profile that moves something.

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Today at 10:10:53 AM
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Like I said they are scammers and cannot prove otherwise.
Shisir99 has defined a scam site after 2 weeks as "doing terribly".
I have proved on how all the time he has not addressed his defense for the scam and scam campaign manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67184001#msg67184001

They continue to point to my reputation because they can't address all the same scam made by the same manager Grin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 Here there are 4 for example only in the last few months Smiley

Meanwhile you are wasting time about my reputation, the same scam manager has supported other 2 scams casino with both previous scam posted.
Please I need help and attention, on this very challenge, I requested for withdrawal since two days now it has not reflected in my wallet
...opsie... have you checked their license and other issues they are having?

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This is another site that in a couple of minutes you can check the license has already made another 2 scams and other forum users have complain nowadays.
Only this month there are issues with 3 sites! Anything can be verified immediately. The accuse on my reputation are just blatant way to derail from the scum behaviour of these users involved.

My trust is appropriate, including the flag. I don't trust this user - it has been already all explained.
Since 10 pages of 2 topics are not enough to make a summary, I can continue to quote the same that has not changed and has been avoided to be answered:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.0 scam accusation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171394#msg67171394 Links with sister scam casino
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67168369#msg67168369 Links of warnings they was not answering since many days / trust a newbie as "team"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 4 scams of the last 6 months (all with the same scheme)

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Today at 10:36:34 AM
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I spent the past 3 hours reviewing everything mentioned, and waited for trust update -----> https://loyce.club/trust/2026-09-26_Sat_05.18h/2344286.html[1] to obtain a more neutral assessment.

If you noticed, not many DT members were convinced by what you presented, so I can list the reasons that will lead to adding more negative trust, such as proving any of the following:
1. Relationship between LM and @naim027 farm.
2. LM continued to promote any scam project (after it was proven.)
3. LM uses an alt account to join a signature campaign or add known spammers to one of its campaigns.
4. LM steals any money deposited in escrow or intentionally misuses it.
5. LM defaults on any payments related to any signature campaign.

Overall I look forward to hearing the opinions of those who still trust LM.
Most of the people that trust this user trust him solely because he is a money source for them, or was in the past. Very unreliable, and unethical way to trust someone. It seems that there is no limit to the amount of scams that one is allowed to run here as long as sufficient DT members have been paid in the past, or are being paid presently.

How many scams is one permitted to conduct promote this way before you would take action? It would be good to establish a number, so that future campaign managers know how many scams they can deliver without consequences, unintentionally of course.  Smiley
Be fair and just and establish a number, so that everyone can work with it. Do not give a green pass to someone just because he has been a money source for many forum members -- a lot of that money is from previous scams, but nobody wants to deal with that fact.

I don't understand what's the big deal about red trust ratings.

If most DT members don't agree with the trust rating, it doesn't affect anything anyway. I mean what difference does it make if 9 out of 10 campaign managers don't see a problem with hiring Shishir99 in their campaigns? That rating effectively becomes a note from some guy. Yes that guy is a DT member too and it is worth reading but since many people (probably most) don't agree with it, it is practically ineffective and we can see that in the recent change of trust lists.

It is the heavy bombarding of red trust ratings (and flags with heavy support) on a profile that moves something.
There is no issue, it is just individuals pretending that it matters. It depends more on "who received it" rather than "why". Don't take games of pretend all too serious, they are quite obvious if you look at it with a sharp eye.

My trust is appropriate, including the flag. I don't trust this user - it has been already all explained.
That is right, don't let paid off scoundrels who pretend to be unbiased while receiving money scare you off. Your style might be a bit crazy though, it is lovely.  Cheesy

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Today at 04:45:45 PM
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What I'm trying to understand now is what you're fighting for.

1. You got paid for what you worked for, correct?

2. Also, you got that deposit back, no?

Let's first sort out these two questions.


From what I understood through my conversation with LM, both points have been resolved.

You got paid for your work, and you got your deposit back.


What is the next issue? Just please simplify it, do not write a 1500 words reply.
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Today at 04:59:50 PM
Last edit: Today at 05:10:05 PM by bitbollo
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"don't write 1500 word reply"

My trust is appropriate, including the flag. I don't trust this user - it has been already all explained.
Since 10 pages of 2 topics are not enough to make a summary, I can continue to quote the same that has not changed and has been avoided to be answered:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.0 scam accusation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171394#msg67171394 Links with sister scam casino
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67168369#msg67168369 Links of warnings they was not answering since many days / trust a newbie as "team"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 4 scams of the last 6 months (all with the same scheme)

Probably you have to understood with all these overwhelming evidences that he is a campaign manager that has endorsed dozen of scam.
Still now 3 of his campaigns of the last month are on main page of scam accusation!
There is nothing to talk more, these are evidences of scam, negligence, fail of escrow, insults, even continue of endorse of a scam still now "it's everything fine, take money and shutup".


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You got paid for your work, and you got your deposit back.
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I have warned enough time this user before claiming there was a scam. Still now, despite this site is a scam, other people are getting scammed by this approach "too friendly" that has no sense.
I should close a scam accusation so other sites promoted by him could create issues? The same frogbet has another guy scammed ...   
I am not dealing with scammers. Even if they have tried to "shut up" my trust rating with an entire topic of offense and my money owned this not change the sense of the topic and of the accusation.

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Today at 05:50:31 PM
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Ok, so if I, again, understood correctly;

Little Mouse paid for your services and refunded whatever needed to be refunded. Ok, so this has been resolved. You got your money back.

Your next problem is the portfolio of clients that Little Mouse has and how he treated you in this campaign, correct? You already left him a negative trust from what I've understood, so we also resolved this. You voiced your opinion, he got a slap.

The problem after that I do not understand. Is your problem the way Frogbet operates? You're saying that it's a shady casino? Little Mouse doesn't operate Frogbet (I would know if he did), so this is a separate issue that has nothing to do with Little Mouse. Clarify what the goal here is.


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Today at 09:54:17 PM
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This thread is going nowhere. The same posts and concerns keep getting repeated, but at the end of the day nothing really happens. There’s no progress.

You guys are just wasting your time here. I think one of the main reasons this keeps happening is the language barrier. It’s difficult to have a productive discussion when people have trouble understanding each other and that may be why the same issues keep being brought up without any real resolution.

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