bitbollo Reputation, ponzi scammer account farmer or reputable forum DT member?

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The thread is to discuss bitbollo reputations, the other thread have been mix up of frogbet and bitbollo scam accusations

Self moderated to avoid the accuser from derailing the discussion with wall of text and repetitive replies.
bitbollo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=364070

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bitbollo probably owns more than a dozens of accounts, which he has operated to abuse directbet.eu Tipster competition. XII FREE Tipster Competition -sponsored by DirectBet- (Main Thread). I will uncover them one by one. It's a huge list of accounts and tx hashes you will have to explore.

Let's uncover his Ponzi scam and account trading first.

Connected accounts: bitbollo, Cs87kxy.

Cs87kxy posted the address 14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2 in a signature campaign on June 19, 2015  

Dear bitclever, I want join your signature campaign.

Username : Cs87kxy
Post Count :3  (including this)
Position: Newbie
BTC address : 14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2

Then bitbollo stakes the same address two months later here.

1BoSH7RisUAPpGfNbX8scSB43YP6Tx3g7M

1JwLxS3za2s9gFVzn4SKk6xpgg24bxxh9d

14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2
Thanks!

bitbollo's other account already has two negative feedback for operating ponzi scam and trading accounts.

suchmoon

2017-03-02

Reference

Ponzi scammer.

The Sceptical Chymist

2016-07-18

Reference

Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

You should see the reference link to find out what he has been doing.

Here is the link to the announcement of his Ponzi scam website - !! NEW !! ☯ BOOSTCRYPTO.COM ☯ Earn 250% In Only 200 Hours ☯ 10% Referrals Earns, which actually ended up doing an exit scam in 7 days.
Here is the link to the thread of his account trading - [WTS / Loan] 1 Senior + 1 Full Member - Check description - ESCROW ACCEPTED

This was exposed long time ago -

Users Connected: bitbollo, Cs87kxy, Cearea11


Proof of Connection:

bitbollo stakes following addresses here http://archive.is/x5WgS#selection-3017.0-3029.7

1BoSH7RisUAPpGfNbX8scSB43YP6Tx3g7M

1JwLxS3za2s9gFVzn4SKk6xpgg24bxxh9d

14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2

Thanks!

Cs87kxy posts 14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2 here http://archive.is/Fw29m#selection-5213.11-5213.45

Dear bitclever, I want join your signature campaign.

Username : Cs87kxy
Post Count :3  (including this)
Position: Newbie
BTC address : 14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2

Cearea11 posts 1MSHFpgpaekDTKhN1edDYpCh2Mj9Btde1Y here http://archive.is/Bb9PR#selection-6631.10-6631.44

-snip-
Address : 1MSHFpgpaekDTKhN1edDYpCh2Mj9Btde1Y

Addresses:

Code:

1BoSH7RisUAPpGfNbX8scSB43YP6Tx3g7M
14A8fkAAv2yaLJUBU5Nb82QWTtpPSYFPp2
1MSHFpgpaekDTKhN1edDYpCh2Mj9Btde1Y
1JwLxS3za2s9gFVzn4SKk6xpgg24bxxh9d 

Some of his bids to buy accounts -

I have a full member account that I would like to sell

Posts: 120+
Activity: 120+
Potential Activity: 150+
Registered: 2013
Post Quality: Pretty good

price: 0.07BTC

I can provide a signed message if needed. To buy, you must send first or use one of the escrows from this list

I can buy but in what section you use to post?

0.05 could be a nice price for the deal...

my bid : 0.055 BTC

0.044 BTC

0.065 BTC

#2 - 0.015

I'll buy all accounts with escrow at 50% off.

0,05

bin offer 0.023 btc

He ended up winning some of these bids as well.

Check the next posts for more surprise.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Why do you have to create an extra account for that? Too afraid to use your real one? Little bit weak move to hide behind a new alias. 

Also making it self moderated just shows your intentions here.

[libert19]

Why do you have to create an extra account for that? Too afraid to use your real one? Little bit weak move to hide behind a new alias. 

It's only fair, why take risk?

[Shishir99]

He is a scammer, and I have proven it in my thread. The entire DT network miserably failed to tag the scammer.
Even though the scam happened eight years ago, that doesn't mean he is no longer guilty.

As I said, people may still trust him because of his recent activity. They may give him the benefit of the doubt and leave the account fresh. But such a scammer with double standards who also abuses his DT power should not belong to the DT network. But some retards still believe him even after showing everything and think this guy should boss around and abuse his DT power.

Edit: I am going to call out every DT member for what bitbollo has done and their silence about it. He admits what he is doing.

After you have posted this connection what has changed on these accusation? Nothing.

Yeah, nothing really changed except for this.

bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts lovesmayfamilis DT1
bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts DireWolfM14 DT1
bitbollo DT1 distrusts nutildah DT1
bitbollo DT1 distrusts AB de Royse777 DT2
bitbollo DT1 distrusts Shishir99 DT2
bitbollo DT1 distrusts Little Mouse DT1
bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts DefaultTrust DT2

You are basically insulting the entire DT network for not doing anything against you. You are showing that they will be punished if anyone dares to speak against you. LOL.

You are basically insulting the entire DT network

Definetely.

[yahoo62278]

I do not really think he is a scammer, I kinda lost interest in the last thread when he kept posting walls of bullshit and basically deflected all questions, just repeat repeat repeat IMO.

I would still need to review all the accusations from shasir but doesn't look like the rest of the community feels he is a risk otherwise he would be tagged by now. I think he uses the trust system incorrectly and doesn't really need to be in DT, he uses retaliatory measures as well. I have been watching the DT inclusions and exclusions and notice he distrusts someone as soon as they distrust him. He distrusts anyone who does not share his opinion it seems.

I feel like using an alt to make this accusation is your choice but I think it holds more weight when someone stands up and posts from their main account. It's ok to post like this just my opinion on the accusation holding more weight.

[DireWolfM14]

Edit: I am going to call out every DT member for what bitbollo has done and their silence about it. He admits what he is doing.

The only problem is that exact opposite of what you claim; he hasn't admitted that he was once in control of the Cs87kxy account.  However, there is evidence suggesting that he was no longer in control of that account before it went on to promote a ponzi.  So, in reality, it's a good thing that no DT member has tagged him, because that would only be demonstrating poor use of red-tags.  

Worst case scenario, someone might want to neutral-tag him with that tidbit of information, but what would that really accomplish?
There's no evidence of account trading since a time when that was acceptable, and there's no evidence bitbollo himself was involved any attempt to scam.

[Shishir99]

However, there is evidence suggesting that he was no longer in control of that account before it went on to promote a ponzi.

With due respect, could you please help me find that evidence? Is it the password change?

I looked at the BRDB profile. Yes, there was a password change. But he changed his password several times over those two years. A password change alone doesn't prove a takeover, not without an email change. Remember: there was no 2FA back then. And ask yourself honestly: if his account had really been hacked, don’t you think he would have screamed it from the rooftops? He still holds the keys. He still controls that Bitcoin address himself. That isn’t "lost control." That's still his wallet. He can sign a message and recover anytime.

Also, what I meant is - He already admits that he is insulting the DT network.

So, in reality, it's a good thing that no DT member has tagged him, because that would only be demonstrating poor use of red-tags. There's no evidence of account trading since a time when that was acceptable, and there's no evidence bitbollo himself was involved any attempt to scam.

Well… if you can prove the account changed hands, then fine, blame the next owner. But did he ever say someone else took it over? Did he ever come clean and say "I was hacked" or "I sold it"?

Look at what is actually on the table

• Both accounts used Italian wording.
• Both accounts posted the same address.
  
• There was no email change.
  
• He never claimed the account was hacked or traded.
• His story is that a "friend" posted his address.

Doesn't "my friend used the account / the address" sound painfully familiar when multi-accounts get caught?

I have said this before, and I will say it again from the heart. You can trust him for the last few years of good behaviour if that's what you choose. That doesn't wash away what came before. Nobody has to red-tag him today for a scam from eight years ago. I am not asking for a witch hunt. I am asking for honesty. He is not some angel who never dirtied his hands. He's a bully this forum's DT network has covered for, year after year, while the rest of us were expected to look away.

I would still need to review all the accusations from shasir but doesn't look like the rest of the community feels he is a risk otherwise he would be tagged by now.

All you need to check is what was quoted by OP from my thread.
The addition is this one - Look at the transaction below; both addresses from bitbollo and Cs87kxy are in the same input. There is no way he could say he doesn't own it.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/87141eade85e9c7b669a6c15563b800cf3e4fd1bf84a8cec4c1fe8d24a878281

As for what the rest of the community thinks, this is not what you think.
The community is afraid of the consequences after the negative feedback. He is attacking anyone who doesn't agree with him.

bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts lovesmayfamilis DT1
bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts DireWolfM14 DT1
bitbollo DT1 distrusts nutildah DT1
bitbollo DT1 distrusts AB de Royse777 DT2
bitbollo DT1 distrusts Shishir99 DT2
bitbollo DT1 distrusts Little Mouse DT1
bitbollo DT1 no longer trusts DefaultTrust DT2

[libert19]

Edit: I am going to call out every DT member for what bitbollo has done and their silence about it. He admits what he is doing.

The only problem is that exact opposite of what you claim; he hasn't admitted that he was once in control of the Cs87kxy account.  However, there is evidence suggesting that he was no longer in control of that account before it went on to promote a ponzi.  So, in reality, it's a good thing that no DT member has tagged him, because that would only be demonstrating poor use of red-tags.  

Worst case scenario, someone might want to neutral-tag him with that tidbit of information, but what would that really accomplish?
There's no evidence of account trading since a time when that was acceptable, and there's no evidence bitbollo himself was involved any attempt to scam.

I am pretty sure, if it was some random user, the account would have gotten stained by now but then again one could argue, reputation has it's perks.

[libert19]

^ Oh no. It wasn't a personal attack, please don't take it that way. I was saying what would have been likely consequence for anybody else.

As for my feedback, it's my 'past' — I haven't repeated same offense, have I? 

[DireWolfM14]

However, there is evidence suggesting that he was no longer in control of that account before it went on to promote a ponzi.

With due respect, could you please help me find that evidence? Is it the password change?

It's been discussed for the last 6 pages of the other thread.  You appear to have more time to invest in this drama than I do, so feel free to do your own research.  Curb your bias, and it'll stare you in the face.

I am pretty sure, if it was some random user, the account would have gotten stained by now but then again one could argue, reputation has it's perks.

I don't disagree that there are some DT members who love nothing more than to see their names plastered on every rando trust wall.  If you think I'm one of them, or you find inconsistencies in my feedback, please point them out.  I'd love to remedy that.

Please report them here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158452.0

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